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Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast. Mini would I

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Speaker 1: feel like currently with the government's response to COVID, I

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Speaker 1: think we're all getting a little bit exhausted with where

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Speaker 1: it's at, largely the vaccination thing to one side. Let's

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Speaker 1: reopen that can of worms last Friday if you want

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Speaker 1: to hear it to get on the podcast while chat.

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Speaker 2: I know I talk back radio so successful.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing I've got a real beef with

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Speaker 1: at the moment is this control over Australian citizens being

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Speaker 1: able to return to the country or leave the country.

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Speaker 2: So what is the stat to play there with.

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Speaker 1: So most recently they reduced the number of planes coming

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Speaker 1: back into Australia, So right now, to get back to Australia,

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Speaker 1: for example, my sister lives in London. I've got sways

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Speaker 1: of friends overseas who effectively, if you can't get on

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Speaker 1: one of these defat flights, which is the Department of

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Speaker 1: Foreign Affairs and Trade, you essentially to get a seat,

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Speaker 1: you have to pay about fifteen thousand dollars get a

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Speaker 1: business class flight at home, which is just out of

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Speaker 1: everyone's reach. So they just can't get back. So that's

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Speaker 1: the first problem. And then they've reduced the flights even further,

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Speaker 1: so it's nearly impossible to get home. So I don't

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Speaker 1: like my sister's fully trapped. We're not trapped in London

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Speaker 1: like I mean, Gee's life looks a lot better over

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Speaker 1: there right now, if I'm being honest, but you can't

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Speaker 1: get home. And on top of that, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you remember that situation in India before when they were

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Speaker 1: in a red when they were in a red zone,

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Speaker 1: there were situations where there were like five year old

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Speaker 1: boys were originally going over to visit their grandparents who

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Speaker 1: couldn't come back home to see their parents because they're

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Speaker 1: locked out of the country. So we spoke a little

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Speaker 1: bit on Friday about the fact that when you live

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Speaker 1: in a democracy like Australia, we've got these these two

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Speaker 1: competing tensions about living in a liberal democracy. On the

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Speaker 1: one hand, you've got your individual freedoms, you know your

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Speaker 1: rights that you're allowed to, your right to speech, you

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Speaker 1: know your right to live freely in the community. And

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Speaker 1: on the other side, you've got this social contract, so

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Speaker 1: we all agree to make sure that we abide by

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Speaker 1: a certain set of rules so that we can all

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Speaker 1: be safe.

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Speaker 2: We don't walk on the street in the nude would

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Speaker 2: be an example. That to be a perfect example, just

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Speaker 2: a picture for the people in their cause.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that'd be a perfect example. So exactly, so the

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Speaker 1: civil freedom there is I should be able to do

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Speaker 1: what I want to walk the street in the rude.

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Speaker 1: But then I'm then I'm tempered by the fact that

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Speaker 1: I live in this safe place and that's not allowed.

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Speaker 1: So I have to listen to the rules.

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Speaker 2: Put your pants.

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Speaker 1: That's the natural tension of being in democracy. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I think the longer that the government continues to not

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Speaker 1: allow people to return home who are citizens. Like, don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong, my girlfriend's Dutchess. You know, she's not

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Speaker 1: an Astralian citizen. She's an Austraian permanent resident. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sitting here saying she should. I think she's doing me

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Speaker 1: wrong to be grave. She could come and go go

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Speaker 1: home and see her family and stuff. She can't, but

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Speaker 1: because she wouldn't be allowed back in. But if you're

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Speaker 1: a citizen, like surely, if you're allowed one right as

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Speaker 1: a citizen of a country in the world, you should

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Speaker 1: be allowed to freely enter and leave that country. Otherwise, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's the point in every other really awful action movie

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Speaker 1: that we've seen starring Mark Wahlberg in some foreign city

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Speaker 1: in Europe and he flees to the embassy, he's not

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Speaker 1: allowed back in the embassy, Like that's that's your one

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Speaker 1: thing that you're allowed as a citizen in that country.

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Speaker 1: And I just think that the current situation is I

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Speaker 1: think they're stepping on all sorts of toes not allowing

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Speaker 1: Aussies to leave and come back freely as citizens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is the stance that we need to get to

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Speaker 3: this seventy eighty percent vaccinated before they're going.

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Speaker 2: To these people are fully vaccinated. That people that are

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Speaker 2: overseas and there are lot of people here.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense to me if someone's fully if

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Speaker 3: an Australian citizen is overseas fully vaccinated, and they're all

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Speaker 3: been allowed to come back that, yeah, that's totally right.

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Speaker 1: And the people that are here also, who are full

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Speaker 1: citizens who are fully vaccinated can't return home to the

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Speaker 1: place they normally live. There, people that have come home

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks to see their family and

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Speaker 1: then the government's just changed the laws and said you

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Speaker 1: actually can't go back out. Now we're allowed to leave

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Speaker 1: what do we I think the state of play in

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Speaker 1: Australia right now for a lot of people, while we're

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Speaker 1: all in lockdowns and looking out for each other and

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Speaker 1: trying to do the right thing for each other, is

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Speaker 1: getting to the point where I think it's it's embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: It's actually embarrassing. I think we're really backward, and I

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Speaker 1: think I think the pendulum is probably sudden to swing

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Speaker 1: a little bit too far the other way in terms

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Speaker 1: of how much control there is over what we can

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Speaker 1: and can't do.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people overseas are talking about as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Joe Rogan in his most recent podcast

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Speaker 3: was just like, what.

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Speaker 2: The hell is going on?

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Speaker 1: With what is going on?

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Speaker 3: He was talking about helicopters going over in Sydney telling

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Speaker 3: people to go back home, the police are on the

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Speaker 3: way when they're outdoors, yeah, at the beach, and he

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Speaker 3: was just like, what is happening in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think we joke about the fact that a'stre is

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Speaker 1: a nanny state, that you know, we're overruled and we're overregulated,

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Speaker 1: and I think ordinarily in everyday life that's true, and

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Speaker 1: normally that doesn't affect us but when it's getting to

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Speaker 1: this point, as I was talking to before, we start

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Speaker 1: infringing on really basic human liberties. So like, yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: all willing to get stay in our homes and stuff

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Speaker 1: so that we can all be safe and so that

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Speaker 1: we can get enough people vaccinated. But I think that

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Speaker 1: they're just is to start being a bit of logic

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Speaker 1: that starts to creep through here, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: what point either the government's going to let go and go, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, We're going to stop enforcing these vaccinations

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Speaker 1: and start going, you know what, the vaccination has been

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Speaker 1: available to everybody for a really long time. Now, at

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Speaker 1: what point do we go this is now a choice

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Speaker 1: and then we can just start moving forward. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know it's on I know the questions on everybody's tongue.

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Speaker 1: We're all thinking it. There's no end date insight.

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Speaker 2: There's no moment where it's like we're going.

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Speaker 1: To stop this lock up system and just let you

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Speaker 1: guys decide if you don't want to get the vaccination, fine,

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Speaker 1: you might die, that's your choice. But it feels like

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Speaker 1: we're just in this cycle right now. We're just putting

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Speaker 1: increasing restrictions on freedoms. And I just don't think it's

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Speaker 1: the country that we all wanted it to be.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I agree. Sorry for the ram.

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Speaker 1: Hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast.

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