WEBVTT - The Dirty Delete 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.840 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.320 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.680 Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy hembro 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.360 unfollows her husband on Instagram for a third time. The 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:21.640 content strategies behind influences multimillion dollar mansion sales? What exactly 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.959 has gone down between Olivia Rodgers and her stylist Paul 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.920 for SACI and Meghan Markle's handwritten clapback? The first Mikayla 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.519 tester has finally dropped the first of three explosive podcast 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.600 episodes about the Paul family. The first installment went for 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.879 two and a half hours, and I was hooked for 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:40.720 every second of it. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:41.080 Yeah. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:42.760 I was watching it at home and Dale was like, 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:44.800 what on earth are you watching? 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:44.960 This? 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.680 Sounds like absolute crapp I'm like, Dale, you don't even understand. 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:49.800 This is a pop culture moment right here. It was 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.159 on YouTube and I really love this format for Mikayla 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.000 because it felt like you were having a debrief with 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.360 one of your best friends in bed. The thing I 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.400 liked most about it is she made a point of 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.560 saying that she wasn't monetizing the YouTube because she sees 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.360 it as immoral and no one should be profiting off her. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.000 And I thought that that was a really clever move. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.360 I mean, it's already sitting at almost a million views. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.440 Can you think of the amount of ads revenue she. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:13.920 Could have made. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.360 Yeah, she could have made a lot. And she also 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.720 points out that she had different podcasts requesting her to 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.600 come on. I think this is the best way that 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.360 she could have put this information out there, and we 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.240 will be going into more detail on Friday's show about 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.080 She provided a lot of receipts and I think she 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.360 came across as very intelligent and very articulate. I couldn't 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.880 believe that she sat there speaking like that for two 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.280 and a half hours. She was captivating. Yeah, it was captivating. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.760 Her boyfriend has come out and said that they filmed 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.920 for I think ten hours, and they've had to put 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.600 a lot of time into the editing. As you said, Amy, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.600 we will be covering it all on Friday because we 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.960 really wanted more time to sit with the content and 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.440 take it in before discussing it on air. Now, one 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.240 frivolous thing I want to ask you guys about this 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.960 podcast episode is what did you eat? Or sitting down 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:57.240 and watching that because that was a bit of a 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.600 trend on TikTok. People were putting up their snacks because 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:00.560 this was actually. 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:00.960 Like a movie. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.840 I originally wasn't planning to watch it, but Reese fell asleep, 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:05.800 which was great timing for me, and we had had 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.280 Indian takeaway and I was so forward, I'm like, I 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.680 need a sweet treat during this, so Reese had actually 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.400 got me a Biscof brownie from the bakery down the 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.600 road and it was delightful with a cup of tea. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:16.519 So I didn't have anything. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.320 I was getting ready for a wedding and had my 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.000 in laws over doing Reno's. I was huddled in my bedroom, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.760 sitting in front of my mirror and all I could 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.560 think was, I hope they can't hear this at all, 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.000 because it would have been like, what the hell is 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:28.680 she listening to? 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:29.320 What about you? 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:29.600 Amy? 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.000 I had pringles and also which I haven't had ages, 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.079 but Dale got them for me, and a picnic bar. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.000 Which was Brandon's recommend it. 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:38.960 Yes, I don't know if I told you about this, Kate, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.760 but randomly Brandon had this poll at work for all 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.160 of his colleagues to vote on the top favorites, chocolate 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.080 and picnic one, which shocked me to my care because 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.120 it's never been a favorite of mine. I've always rated 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.400 picnics until I choked on one as a kid at 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.359 the movie. I haven't had one for years, and I've 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.000 got to agree there is something just delicious about a 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:58.600 picnic bar. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.000 I'm eating my dessert. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:01.960 How do you eat it? 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:03.280 If your hands? 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.840 In what's starting to feel like groundhog Day? Tammy Hembro 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:12.040 has dramatically unfollowed her husband Matt Sakowski on Instagram for 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.520 a third time. The unfollow came just days after the 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.560 fitness influencers shared a teary TikTok confessing she was feeling 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.440 flat and having a tough week. So can you bring 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:23.120 us up to speed? 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:23.480 Yeah? 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.040 Well, I first became aware of this when a super 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.360 sleuth reached out with a screenshot showing that Tammy was 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.000 no longer following that on Instagram, and I just thought, 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.560 are they serious again? This is happening again? Oh my god, 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.160 I just don't understand it at all. I can't imagine 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.160 having a fight with Reese and the first thing I 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.160 think to do is unfollow or block him, and I 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.360 mean with her, she knows that people are going to 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:46.440 notice it as well. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:46.920 As I saying. 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.760 What makes it worse is their careers are on social media, 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.680 so it's even more of a statement. Tammy also appears 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.560 to have removed a number of recent photos of them together. 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.320 I'm hoping that she's using the archive tooll rather than 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.280 the dirty delete, because that would rather awkward being like, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.119 oh fuck Jo reupload her. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:03.400 Well. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.000 I noticed that Matt's in Melbourne and I wondered if 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.160 that had anything to do with this recent unfollow Yeah, Amy, 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.040 he is in Melbourne currently, and what makes this argument 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.760 a little bit different is usually he will retaliate and 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.440 unfollow Tammy, but this time he didn't, which said a 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.599 lot to me because in the past it's been a 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:24.240 bit unclear who unfollowed who first because it's happened pretty simultaneously. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.800 And in this case, maybe Matt can't risk the petty 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.560 unfollowed back because he has some groveling to do over something. Well, 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.520 it seems like every time Matt is away there seems 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.880 to be some kind of issue that results in Tammy 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.200 unfollowing him. Do we think, potentially maybe he's matured and 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.040 that's why he didn't unfollow back. Maybe it looks I 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.920 think he fucked up and that's why he didn't unfollow back. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.559 Or he just knows the pattern now and he's like, Okay, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.960 so Tammy's gonna unfollow me, then I'm gonna smooth it 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.520 all over with her and then she'll just follow me. Yeah, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.560 And the logistics of having to go follow and unfollow, 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.080 and he probably knows it will lead to a bigger 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.719 argument if he does the unfollowed back. The timing of 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.760 the unfollow is pretty crazy because it comes exactly four 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.880 months to the day since their wedding at the Anniversary Tommy. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.080 And it's also been a year since Matt and Tammy 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.840 first unfollowed each other, and that was, of course, after 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.000 the infamous Grand Prix fiasco. How was that a year ago? 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.880 Time is absolutely flying. I was wondering whether Grand Prix 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.800 didn't really seem to make a mark like it did 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.599 last year. And this has made more sense to me 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.000 because Tammy briefly unfollowed Matt after he was caught out 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.960 dming another woman after a night out at the f Ones. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.599 Oh no, but wasn't he just dming her for his friend? 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:33.400 That was his player. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.840 It was just wingmanning his friend now the woman in question. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.680 She ended up sharing the exchange in a Facebook group 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.160 called Tea Time, and she showed Matt asking if she 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:46.039 was still with her boyfriend, and she responded still marrying Tammy. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.320 That was a very iconic response. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.159 These unfollows seemed to come at very pivotal moments because 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.320 the second unfollow was only a few days before their 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.920 joint Hucks party was set to kick off. Now I 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.520 feel like I need to point out hucks party is 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.160 an actual term. It is a joint Bucks and Hens party. 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.920 It's not so bizarre, It's not our weird adelaide pronunciation Bucks. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:05.280 No. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:05.720 Well. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:10.480 Followers first became aware of that unfollow when Tammy's account 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.120 was temporarily deactivated. Within an hour, it was back up, 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.600 but she was following one less person, which of course 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.440 was her fiance Matt. And Matt also wasn't following Tammy, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.839 but weirdly, he was out and about with his sister 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.120 Emma at a market place and he shared this bizarre 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:30.240 Instagram story of a dashhound merch stall. And I mean, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.000 not only is this random to share at a market 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.360 whilst you're having this fight with your fiance. But it's 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.360 even weirder when your ex girlfriend who her name is 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.279 still on your ass owns a dashhound who you used 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.960 to live with, and you regularly posted about your name 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.960 is still on You're, of course referring to his tattoo 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.560 of his ex gen. He did get that removed and 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.919 he had that really great partnership with that another cream. 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.360 It's just crazy that this keeps happening. Yeah. I saw 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.560 a lot of people online talking about this in different 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.560 Facebook groups, and most of the commentary was around who 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.320 is sad enough to keep checking on Tammy Hembro's following 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.440 with the Lord's work. Yeah, peop who were saying what's 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.000 more pathetic the fact that Tammy keeps on following Matt 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.720 or the fact that people keep checking. I want to 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.080 be in defense of the people who keep checking, because 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:14.920 I fall into that category. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:16.160 And I think it's we. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.160 All sent something as going down because Tammy put out 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.840 a few clues over the weekend. So on Friday, she 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.400 was visibly upset on TikTok, and she confessed that she 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.239 felt flat and things in her life have been piling 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:29.840 up on her. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:31.640 Here's part of what she said. 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.560 Get ready with me while I have been having not 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.640 such a good day, sort of just been one of 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.600 those days where everything just sort of piles on top 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:43.360 of one another. 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.680 Now, poor Tammy, she was on the verge of tears 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.880 in this video, and she went on to explain that 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.320 her cat Bruno, had been rushed in for emergency surgery 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.240 because he'd eaten something that was obstructing his bow. She 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.000 thinks maybe it was one of the kid's toys and 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.000 they needed to flush it out of his system. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:00.560 And of course this will be. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.920 Enough to upset anyone, But I feel like there was 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.480 more to the story. I don't think that she was 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.320 just upset about this isolated incident. It sounded like there 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.920 was a lot more going on behind the scenes, And 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.080 it was this line that made me feel like things 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:14.960 weren't quite right with her and Matt. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.080 One of those days where you like feel like you 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.880 need to cry. I guess I'm going to try and 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.120 like go to dinner or something tonight, to just get 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.760 out of the house and you know, like dress up. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.000 They really can't cry in this video. No, I'm doing 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:38.520 my conciller. No, what it is okay to cry and 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.920 to have days like this and to just fell flat sometimes, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.160 especially like you know, when you have things going on. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.959 To me, when someone talks about wanting to get all 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.640 dressed up and put makeup on and go out for 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.800 a night out with their friends, it sounds like they're 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:58.320 taking their mind off relationship troubles, not necessarily as sick 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.400 or injured out of them. I think Tammys used her 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.840 sit cat as a bit of a diversion to put 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.520 a message out there that she's not happy. Probably she's 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.080 probably hoping that Matt sees her upset. Yeah, And I 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.360 think what made it even more suspicious was the fact that, 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.920 as we mentioned, Matt was in Melbourne at the time 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.280 and he posted a photo out at the football with 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.640 his friends. Interestingly, Tammy did not like this photo. And 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.720 things started getting even more suspicious over the weekend because 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.960 Tammy posted a video dancing with her kids, which she 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.520 generally does do, but she had the caption over the 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.600 top saying me no matter what kind of day I'm having. 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.760 She also had the caption underneath which said bad mood 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.800 dance party durh. The next day she posted another TikTok 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.920 without Matt, and she was doing a fit check with 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.560 her kids, and she mimed to the song Somber with 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.440 the lyrics I don't want to get undressed for a 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.960 new person all over again. I don't want to kiss 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:50.440 someone else's neck. And this caused followers to immediately start 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.319 in undating her with questions about why did you want 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:53.920 follow Matt? 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:55.000 Where is Matt? 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.680 And she started to delete the comments, and she also 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.560 blocked a few of the people, asking you will normally 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.440 clap back, especially when it's about Matt. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:02.800 Yeah. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.320 Well, after all of that, Tammy ended up refollowing Matt, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.000 and he tried to smooth things over by commenting love 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.719 heart emojis under her recent photo. I'm waiting for their 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.360 next TikTok, which is there. And it's like us being 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.280 so happy in our life and we can't believe that 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:16.520 people are commenting about us. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:18.120 It's like, stop being obsessed with me. 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.440 I hope Matt and Anna end up talking about this 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.800 on their podcast because at the moment their producers seem 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.560 to pick a relationship topic that they then sort of 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.120 springboard ideas off. Except Matt never seems to provide any 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.840 juicy details about his relationship. He's always like, no, nothing 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.960 going on, but I'm sure novel will push for it. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:36.240 Yeah. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.199 One of the weeks it was like about sleeping in 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.560 different beds to your partner, and he tried to create 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.400 this hook that he and Tammy sleep in a different 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.120 bed but it was just because he was away in Melbourne. Yeah, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:48.959 so I think that they should tackle why do you 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.240 un follow your partner all the time on social media? 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:52.920 Ever unfollowed your partner? 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:53.360 Never? 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.000 Never? I mean I've we've unfollowed each other definitely. I 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.760 keep getting these anniversaries. It's like you're one year anniversary 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.960 with and I'm like, oh, we've been friends for like 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.800 for Sophie, I don't unfollow you. You unfollow me and 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.040 you've blocked us before. The psychology of the unfollow is 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.360 that you want to show the person how furious you 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.040 are with them and that you're cutting them off from 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.400 your life. The worst bit was when you I think 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.000 you blocked Amy and I and then you got removed 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.520 from all of our group chats. Oh, it was so annoyed, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.640 and the admint to have to add you back in 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.040 was just so annoying. OLA's ufollow has definitely ignited the 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.280 rumor meal in a popular Facebook group, One Girl claimed 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.200 that she recently overheard Matt in Melbourne talking shit about 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.640 Tammy at the gym. Again, this is just speculation, she 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.880 wrote in the group, laughing my ass off. I heard 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.360 him talking crap about her on the phone he trains 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.880 at my gym now. This comment was backed up by 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.960 another user asking if it was a gym in Melbourne 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.199 South As. One of her friends said he'd also overheard 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.559 the same phone conversation, but this girl didn't believe him 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.800 until now, She wrote. He apparently was an absolute grub 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.720 the way he speaks about women. Another user also wrote, 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.679 let me guess he was speaking to the boys from 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.440 Melbourne over the phone. He never learns. He did this 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.800 on a rooftop bar in Melbourne, talking shit about Kira Maguire, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.000 who was his former girlfriend, and a news reporter overheard 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.360 and did an article on it. He was also flicking 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.000 through only fans pointing. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.000 Out who he'd Dooo. That is so gross. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:19.600 If that is true, I can say is thank god 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.840 there is a pren up in place. Today. I am 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.800 joined by Paul Vasaci, who you might know as Style 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.720 by Bloom. Four months now, our dms have been full 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.160 of one question, and it is what is going on 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:36.720 between Olivia Rodgers and her stylist Paul Versaci otherwise known 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.880 as Style by Bloom because they were once inseparable. Yeah, 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.760 Paul was Olivia's go to stylist for so many events, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.280 whether they were big or small. She always tagged him 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.920 in everything and really made a name for him. Oh, 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:51.360 I think that's to be an unfair I think he 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.720 made a name for himself because some of the outfits 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.839 he would pick for her were incredible. I'm not saying 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.000 it wasn't off the back of great work, but everyone 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.520 knew him and her as a team together, and then 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.000 he started working with a bunch of other influences too. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.240 He wasn't just her stylist, they were also best friends. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.680 He appeared in her podcast a number of times. He 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.720 shared his coming out story, and Olivia made it very 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.240 clear during the podcast that he had been her rock 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.760 during her separation with her husband Justin mckinn. And it 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.320 also sounded like he was a pretty good wingman to 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.640 Olivia because he set her up a few years ago 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.079 with her then boyfriend Morgan Waterhouse. 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:28.640 I mean that didn't end so well. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.760 So maybe he's not the best wing no, but he 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.480 also wingman her with her current boyfriend Hugo, because Paul 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.760 spotted Hugo on a night out and he worked his magic. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.600 He knew that the two would fall in love, and 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.120 he dragged Olivia onto the dance floor to meet him. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.760 The rest is history. They're still together, yeah, and that's 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.240 why everyone shocked that things have gone super quiet between 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.440 the pair. So Olivia last appeared on Paul's styling page 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.440 in September twenty twenty four, when he dressed her for 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.120 Flemington's Racecourses Spring Gala event. And this is particularly odder. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.080 Since then, we've had Melbourne Fashion Week and Glamour on 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.280 the Grid, two events that the friends would regularly work 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.760 together on, but Olivia is now being dressed by another stylist. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.000 This topic has been a little bit more difficult to 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.000 pull together because a couple of months ago, Olivia blocked 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.640 Outspoken and our accounts from seeing her page. Well, it 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.319 came after we spoke about her ex husband, Justin mckeann 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.960 and his issues in court. Also, maybe she didn't want 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.600 anyone looking into this friendship breakdown. Who's going to have 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.920 enough time to do that us exactly? Well, it seems 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.360 like Paul's career is really going from strength to strength 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.160 because even though he's not working with Olivia, he's been 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:35.120 styling the likes of Sammy Robinson, Isabelle Clark, Annalise Dallons, 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.360 Brooke Blurton and Alex Pendlebury. So he was working with 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.720 Seanie Grimmat, which was a big get in the influencers space. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.640 We also go on holiday with Olivia. They were like this, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.120 as you said, this isn't just a bust up between 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.240 a stylist and a client. This was a really good friendship. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.320 What has added even more fuel to the fire is 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.560 that last week Paul did a big cull on his 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:57.560 personal Instagram account and he removed every single photo of 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.400 him with Olivia and may I point now, this is 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.080 whilst he's holidaying in Japan, So you think you'd have. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.280 Better things to do. Carlor's Instagram, you see holidaying with. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.520 Though he's holidaying with someone who could potentially be his boyfriend, 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.240 I'm not one hundred percent sure. I don't want to 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.520 They could just be friends as well if it was 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.320 a friend, because you know, if you're on holiday and 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.880 you're really slagging somebody off and you're like, right, I'm 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:19.600 going to delete all the photos of it. That's a 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.520 real fuck you because that actually impacts on his styling business. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.520 That's his work. You know, he was she was often 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.040 in the clothes that he dressed her. I wonder, though, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.040 could this have something to do with Morgan Waterhouse, because 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.160 you said that they last appeared on each other's feeds 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.280 in September twenty twenty four, just before Christmas. You've got 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.520 to remember Morgan Waterhouse put out that really bitchy TikTok 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.400 where he was alluding to Olivia cheating on him when 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.600 multiple people she references she was a narcissister. Yeah, and 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.040 you've got to remember that Paul was friends with Morgan Waterhouse, 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.440 That's why he set the til So maybe he is 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.880 team Morgan. I think it's a case of when it 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.880 comes to a breakup, you try and be friends with 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.800 both parties originally, and it gets to a point where 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.200 that's no longer possible. And perhaps he's picked Morgan over Olivia, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.160 which I don't know why he would if she was 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.880 so helpful to his career and his best friend. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.640 We're moving. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:14.640 What you don't want to move? 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:19.880 House influencers Steph Claire Smith and Georgie Stevenson have a 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.280 lot in common. They're both young multi millionaires who launched 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.920 highly successful wellness businesses off the back of their large 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.520 social media followings. They're also both pregnant with their second 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.240 child and have just sold their dream homes after living 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.240 in them for only a couple of years. But despite 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.200 all the similarities, they have chosen completely different content strategies 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.360 when it comes to sharing about the sales of their homes. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.800 One strategy has attracted followers, while the other is turning 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.880 them away, and the results may surprise you, Kate, can 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:50.600 you tell us more? 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:50.960 Well? 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.720 Georgie Stephenson has been completely transparent about her move, so 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.160 she told her followers in February that she and her 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.720 husband had put their dream home on the market for 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.080 eat the sale or rent because they wanted to find 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.760 a house that was more family friendly. Since then, Georgie 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.440 confirmed that they have found tenants to rent their home 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.880 and they had purchased a new house with more land 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:11.879 on the Gold Coast. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:12.560 Now. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:16.440 Georgie has kept the content rolling, sharing videos documenting the move, 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.639 as well as a three year old daughter's reaction to 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.840 seeing their new home for the first time. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.080 Gosh, this house is so stunning. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.320 It is insane. I've been listening to a few podcasts 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.240 with Georgie Stephenson and she was talking about how if 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.040 you ever see, for example, someone's new house on social 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.600 media and you feel jealous of it, that should be 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.480 you should take that as a positive, as a reflection 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.399 of something aim to aim for. And I was like, 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.600