Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy hembro
Speaker 1: unfollows her husband on Instagram for a third time. The
Speaker 1: content strategies behind influences multimillion dollar mansion sales? What exactly
Speaker 1: has gone down between Olivia Rodgers and her stylist Paul
Speaker 1: for SACI and Meghan Markle's handwritten clapback? The first Mikayla
Speaker 1: tester has finally dropped the first of three explosive podcast
Speaker 1: episodes about the Paul family. The first installment went for
Speaker 1: two and a half hours, and I was hooked for
Speaker 1: every second of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was watching it at home and Dale was like,
Speaker 1: what on earth are you watching?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 1: Sounds like absolute crapp I'm like, Dale, you don't even understand.
Speaker 1: This is a pop culture moment right here. It was
Speaker 1: on YouTube and I really love this format for Mikayla
Speaker 1: because it felt like you were having a debrief with
Speaker 1: one of your best friends in bed. The thing I
Speaker 1: liked most about it is she made a point of
Speaker 1: saying that she wasn't monetizing the YouTube because she sees
Speaker 1: it as immoral and no one should be profiting off her.
Speaker 1: And I thought that that was a really clever move.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's already sitting at almost a million views.
Speaker 1: Can you think of the amount of ads revenue she.
Speaker 4: Could have made.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she could have made a lot. And she also
Speaker 1: points out that she had different podcasts requesting her to
Speaker 1: come on. I think this is the best way that
Speaker 1: she could have put this information out there, and we
Speaker 1: will be going into more detail on Friday's show about
Speaker 1: She provided a lot of receipts and I think she
Speaker 1: came across as very intelligent and very articulate. I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that she sat there speaking like that for two
Speaker 1: and a half hours. She was captivating. Yeah, it was captivating.
Speaker 1: Her boyfriend has come out and said that they filmed
Speaker 1: for I think ten hours, and they've had to put
Speaker 1: a lot of time into the editing. As you said, Amy,
Speaker 1: we will be covering it all on Friday because we
Speaker 1: really wanted more time to sit with the content and
Speaker 1: take it in before discussing it on air. Now, one
Speaker 1: frivolous thing I want to ask you guys about this
Speaker 1: podcast episode is what did you eat? Or sitting down
Speaker 1: and watching that because that was a bit of a
Speaker 1: trend on TikTok. People were putting up their snacks because
Speaker 1: this was actually.
Speaker 4: Like a movie.
Speaker 1: I originally wasn't planning to watch it, but Reese fell asleep,
Speaker 1: which was great timing for me, and we had had
Speaker 1: Indian takeaway and I was so forward, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: need a sweet treat during this, so Reese had actually
Speaker 1: got me a Biscof brownie from the bakery down the
Speaker 1: road and it was delightful with a cup of tea.
Speaker 4: So I didn't have anything.
Speaker 1: I was getting ready for a wedding and had my
Speaker 1: in laws over doing Reno's. I was huddled in my bedroom,
Speaker 1: sitting in front of my mirror and all I could
Speaker 1: think was, I hope they can't hear this at all,
Speaker 1: because it would have been like, what the hell is
Speaker 1: she listening to?
Speaker 4: What about you?
Speaker 5: Amy?
Speaker 1: I had pringles and also which I haven't had ages,
Speaker 1: but Dale got them for me, and a picnic bar.
Speaker 4: Which was Brandon's recommend it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know if I told you about this, Kate,
Speaker 1: but randomly Brandon had this poll at work for all
Speaker 1: of his colleagues to vote on the top favorites, chocolate
Speaker 1: and picnic one, which shocked me to my care because
Speaker 1: it's never been a favorite of mine. I've always rated
Speaker 1: picnics until I choked on one as a kid at
Speaker 1: the movie. I haven't had one for years, and I've
Speaker 1: got to agree there is something just delicious about a
Speaker 1: picnic bar.
Speaker 2: I'm eating my dessert.
Speaker 1: How do you eat it?
Speaker 2: If your hands?
Speaker 1: In what's starting to feel like groundhog Day? Tammy Hembro
Speaker 1: has dramatically unfollowed her husband Matt Sakowski on Instagram for
Speaker 1: a third time. The unfollow came just days after the
Speaker 1: fitness influencers shared a teary TikTok confessing she was feeling
Speaker 1: flat and having a tough week. So can you bring
Speaker 1: us up to speed?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, I first became aware of this when a super
Speaker 1: sleuth reached out with a screenshot showing that Tammy was
Speaker 1: no longer following that on Instagram, and I just thought,
Speaker 1: are they serious again? This is happening again? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I just don't understand it at all. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: having a fight with Reese and the first thing I
Speaker 1: think to do is unfollow or block him, and I
Speaker 1: mean with her, she knows that people are going to
Speaker 1: notice it as well.
Speaker 4: As I saying.
Speaker 1: What makes it worse is their careers are on social media,
Speaker 1: so it's even more of a statement. Tammy also appears
Speaker 1: to have removed a number of recent photos of them together.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that she's using the archive tooll rather than
Speaker 1: the dirty delete, because that would rather awkward being like,
Speaker 1: oh fuck Jo reupload her.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: I noticed that Matt's in Melbourne and I wondered if
Speaker 1: that had anything to do with this recent unfollow Yeah, Amy,
Speaker 1: he is in Melbourne currently, and what makes this argument
Speaker 1: a little bit different is usually he will retaliate and
Speaker 1: unfollow Tammy, but this time he didn't, which said a
Speaker 1: lot to me because in the past it's been a
Speaker 1: bit unclear who unfollowed who first because it's happened pretty simultaneously.
Speaker 1: And in this case, maybe Matt can't risk the petty
Speaker 1: unfollowed back because he has some groveling to do over something. Well,
Speaker 1: it seems like every time Matt is away there seems
Speaker 1: to be some kind of issue that results in Tammy
Speaker 1: unfollowing him. Do we think, potentially maybe he's matured and
Speaker 1: that's why he didn't unfollow back. Maybe it looks I
Speaker 1: think he fucked up and that's why he didn't unfollow back.
Speaker 1: Or he just knows the pattern now and he's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so Tammy's gonna unfollow me, then I'm gonna smooth it
Speaker 1: all over with her and then she'll just follow me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the logistics of having to go follow and unfollow,
Speaker 1: and he probably knows it will lead to a bigger
Speaker 1: argument if he does the unfollowed back. The timing of
Speaker 1: the unfollow is pretty crazy because it comes exactly four
Speaker 1: months to the day since their wedding at the Anniversary Tommy.
Speaker 1: And it's also been a year since Matt and Tammy
Speaker 1: first unfollowed each other, and that was, of course, after
Speaker 1: the infamous Grand Prix fiasco. How was that a year ago?
Speaker 1: Time is absolutely flying. I was wondering whether Grand Prix
Speaker 1: didn't really seem to make a mark like it did
Speaker 1: last year. And this has made more sense to me
Speaker 1: because Tammy briefly unfollowed Matt after he was caught out
Speaker 1: dming another woman after a night out at the f Ones.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but wasn't he just dming her for his friend?
Speaker 4: That was his player.
Speaker 1: It was just wingmanning his friend now the woman in question.
Speaker 1: She ended up sharing the exchange in a Facebook group
Speaker 1: called Tea Time, and she showed Matt asking if she
Speaker 1: was still with her boyfriend, and she responded still marrying Tammy.
Speaker 4: That was a very iconic response.
Speaker 1: These unfollows seemed to come at very pivotal moments because
Speaker 1: the second unfollow was only a few days before their
Speaker 1: joint Hucks party was set to kick off. Now I
Speaker 1: feel like I need to point out hucks party is
Speaker 1: an actual term. It is a joint Bucks and Hens party.
Speaker 1: It's not so bizarre, It's not our weird adelaide pronunciation Bucks.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Followers first became aware of that unfollow when Tammy's account
Speaker 1: was temporarily deactivated. Within an hour, it was back up,
Speaker 1: but she was following one less person, which of course
Speaker 1: was her fiance Matt. And Matt also wasn't following Tammy,
Speaker 1: but weirdly, he was out and about with his sister
Speaker 1: Emma at a market place and he shared this bizarre
Speaker 1: Instagram story of a dashhound merch stall. And I mean,
Speaker 1: not only is this random to share at a market
Speaker 1: whilst you're having this fight with your fiance. But it's
Speaker 1: even weirder when your ex girlfriend who her name is
Speaker 1: still on your ass owns a dashhound who you used
Speaker 1: to live with, and you regularly posted about your name
Speaker 1: is still on You're, of course referring to his tattoo
Speaker 1: of his ex gen. He did get that removed and
Speaker 1: he had that really great partnership with that another cream.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy that this keeps happening. Yeah. I saw
Speaker 1: a lot of people online talking about this in different
Speaker 1: Facebook groups, and most of the commentary was around who
Speaker 1: is sad enough to keep checking on Tammy Hembro's following
Speaker 1: with the Lord's work. Yeah, peop who were saying what's
Speaker 1: more pathetic the fact that Tammy keeps on following Matt
Speaker 1: or the fact that people keep checking. I want to
Speaker 1: be in defense of the people who keep checking, because
Speaker 1: I fall into that category.
Speaker 4: And I think it's we.
Speaker 1: All sent something as going down because Tammy put out
Speaker 1: a few clues over the weekend. So on Friday, she
Speaker 1: was visibly upset on TikTok, and she confessed that she
Speaker 1: felt flat and things in her life have been piling
Speaker 1: up on her.
Speaker 4: Here's part of what she said.
Speaker 7: Get ready with me while I have been having not
Speaker 7: such a good day, sort of just been one of
Speaker 7: those days where everything just sort of piles on top
Speaker 7: of one another.
Speaker 1: Now, poor Tammy, she was on the verge of tears
Speaker 1: in this video, and she went on to explain that
Speaker 1: her cat Bruno, had been rushed in for emergency surgery
Speaker 1: because he'd eaten something that was obstructing his bow. She
Speaker 1: thinks maybe it was one of the kid's toys and
Speaker 1: they needed to flush it out of his system.
Speaker 4: And of course this will be.
Speaker 1: Enough to upset anyone, But I feel like there was
Speaker 1: more to the story. I don't think that she was
Speaker 1: just upset about this isolated incident. It sounded like there
Speaker 1: was a lot more going on behind the scenes, And
Speaker 1: it was this line that made me feel like things
Speaker 1: weren't quite right with her and Matt.
Speaker 5: One of those days where you like feel like you
Speaker 5: need to cry. I guess I'm going to try and
Speaker 5: like go to dinner or something tonight, to just get
Speaker 5: out of the house and you know, like dress up.
Speaker 5: They really can't cry in this video. No, I'm doing
Speaker 5: my conciller. No, what it is okay to cry and
Speaker 5: to have days like this and to just fell flat sometimes,
Speaker 5: especially like you know, when you have things going on.
Speaker 1: To me, when someone talks about wanting to get all
Speaker 1: dressed up and put makeup on and go out for
Speaker 1: a night out with their friends, it sounds like they're
Speaker 1: taking their mind off relationship troubles, not necessarily as sick
Speaker 1: or injured out of them. I think Tammys used her
Speaker 1: sit cat as a bit of a diversion to put
Speaker 1: a message out there that she's not happy. Probably she's
Speaker 1: probably hoping that Matt sees her upset. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think what made it even more suspicious was the fact that,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, Matt was in Melbourne at the time
Speaker 1: and he posted a photo out at the football with
Speaker 1: his friends. Interestingly, Tammy did not like this photo. And
Speaker 1: things started getting even more suspicious over the weekend because
Speaker 1: Tammy posted a video dancing with her kids, which she
Speaker 1: generally does do, but she had the caption over the
Speaker 1: top saying me no matter what kind of day I'm having.
Speaker 1: She also had the caption underneath which said bad mood
Speaker 1: dance party durh. The next day she posted another TikTok
Speaker 1: without Matt, and she was doing a fit check with
Speaker 1: her kids, and she mimed to the song Somber with
Speaker 1: the lyrics I don't want to get undressed for a
Speaker 1: new person all over again. I don't want to kiss
Speaker 1: someone else's neck. And this caused followers to immediately start
Speaker 1: in undating her with questions about why did you want
Speaker 1: follow Matt?
Speaker 4: Where is Matt?
Speaker 1: And she started to delete the comments, and she also
Speaker 1: blocked a few of the people, asking you will normally
Speaker 1: clap back, especially when it's about Matt.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, after all of that, Tammy ended up refollowing Matt,
Speaker 1: and he tried to smooth things over by commenting love
Speaker 1: heart emojis under her recent photo. I'm waiting for their
Speaker 1: next TikTok, which is there. And it's like us being
Speaker 1: so happy in our life and we can't believe that
Speaker 1: people are commenting about us.
Speaker 4: It's like, stop being obsessed with me.
Speaker 1: I hope Matt and Anna end up talking about this
Speaker 1: on their podcast because at the moment their producers seem
Speaker 1: to pick a relationship topic that they then sort of
Speaker 1: springboard ideas off. Except Matt never seems to provide any
Speaker 1: juicy details about his relationship. He's always like, no, nothing
Speaker 1: going on, but I'm sure novel will push for it.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the weeks it was like about sleeping in
Speaker 1: different beds to your partner, and he tried to create
Speaker 1: this hook that he and Tammy sleep in a different
Speaker 1: bed but it was just because he was away in Melbourne. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that they should tackle why do you
Speaker 1: un follow your partner all the time on social media?
Speaker 1: Ever unfollowed your partner?
Speaker 7: Never?
Speaker 1: Never? I mean I've we've unfollowed each other definitely. I
Speaker 1: keep getting these anniversaries. It's like you're one year anniversary
Speaker 1: with and I'm like, oh, we've been friends for like
Speaker 1: for Sophie, I don't unfollow you. You unfollow me and
Speaker 1: you've blocked us before. The psychology of the unfollow is
Speaker 1: that you want to show the person how furious you
Speaker 1: are with them and that you're cutting them off from
Speaker 1: your life. The worst bit was when you I think
Speaker 1: you blocked Amy and I and then you got removed
Speaker 1: from all of our group chats. Oh, it was so annoyed,
Speaker 1: and the admint to have to add you back in
Speaker 1: was just so annoying. OLA's ufollow has definitely ignited the
Speaker 1: rumor meal in a popular Facebook group, One Girl claimed
Speaker 1: that she recently overheard Matt in Melbourne talking shit about
Speaker 1: Tammy at the gym. Again, this is just speculation, she
Speaker 1: wrote in the group, laughing my ass off. I heard
Speaker 1: him talking crap about her on the phone he trains
Speaker 1: at my gym now. This comment was backed up by
Speaker 1: another user asking if it was a gym in Melbourne
Speaker 1: South As. One of her friends said he'd also overheard
Speaker 1: the same phone conversation, but this girl didn't believe him
Speaker 1: until now, She wrote. He apparently was an absolute grub
Speaker 1: the way he speaks about women. Another user also wrote,
Speaker 1: let me guess he was speaking to the boys from
Speaker 1: Melbourne over the phone. He never learns. He did this
Speaker 1: on a rooftop bar in Melbourne, talking shit about Kira Maguire,
Speaker 1: who was his former girlfriend, and a news reporter overheard
Speaker 1: and did an article on it. He was also flicking
Speaker 1: through only fans pointing.
Speaker 4: Out who he'd Dooo. That is so gross.
Speaker 1: If that is true, I can say is thank god
Speaker 1: there is a pren up in place. Today. I am
Speaker 1: joined by Paul Vasaci, who you might know as Style
Speaker 1: by Bloom. Four months now, our dms have been full
Speaker 1: of one question, and it is what is going on
Speaker 1: between Olivia Rodgers and her stylist Paul Versaci otherwise known
Speaker 1: as Style by Bloom because they were once inseparable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paul was Olivia's go to stylist for so many events,
Speaker 1: whether they were big or small. She always tagged him
Speaker 1: in everything and really made a name for him. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think that's to be an unfair I think he
Speaker 1: made a name for himself because some of the outfits
Speaker 1: he would pick for her were incredible. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it wasn't off the back of great work, but everyone
Speaker 1: knew him and her as a team together, and then
Speaker 1: he started working with a bunch of other influences too.
Speaker 1: He wasn't just her stylist, they were also best friends.
Speaker 1: He appeared in her podcast a number of times. He
Speaker 1: shared his coming out story, and Olivia made it very
Speaker 1: clear during the podcast that he had been her rock
Speaker 1: during her separation with her husband Justin mckinn. And it
Speaker 1: also sounded like he was a pretty good wingman to
Speaker 1: Olivia because he set her up a few years ago
Speaker 1: with her then boyfriend Morgan Waterhouse.
Speaker 4: I mean that didn't end so well.
Speaker 1: So maybe he's not the best wing no, but he
Speaker 1: also wingman her with her current boyfriend Hugo, because Paul
Speaker 1: spotted Hugo on a night out and he worked his magic.
Speaker 1: He knew that the two would fall in love, and
Speaker 1: he dragged Olivia onto the dance floor to meet him.
Speaker 1: The rest is history. They're still together, yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: why everyone shocked that things have gone super quiet between
Speaker 1: the pair. So Olivia last appeared on Paul's styling page
Speaker 1: in September twenty twenty four, when he dressed her for
Speaker 1: Flemington's Racecourses Spring Gala event. And this is particularly odder.
Speaker 1: Since then, we've had Melbourne Fashion Week and Glamour on
Speaker 1: the Grid, two events that the friends would regularly work
Speaker 1: together on, but Olivia is now being dressed by another stylist.
Speaker 1: This topic has been a little bit more difficult to
Speaker 1: pull together because a couple of months ago, Olivia blocked
Speaker 1: Outspoken and our accounts from seeing her page. Well, it
Speaker 1: came after we spoke about her ex husband, Justin mckeann
Speaker 1: and his issues in court. Also, maybe she didn't want
Speaker 1: anyone looking into this friendship breakdown. Who's going to have
Speaker 1: enough time to do that us exactly? Well, it seems
Speaker 1: like Paul's career is really going from strength to strength
Speaker 1: because even though he's not working with Olivia, he's been
Speaker 1: styling the likes of Sammy Robinson, Isabelle Clark, Annalise Dallons,
Speaker 1: Brooke Blurton and Alex Pendlebury. So he was working with
Speaker 1: Seanie Grimmat, which was a big get in the influencers space.
Speaker 1: We also go on holiday with Olivia. They were like this,
Speaker 1: as you said, this isn't just a bust up between
Speaker 1: a stylist and a client. This was a really good friendship.
Speaker 1: What has added even more fuel to the fire is
Speaker 1: that last week Paul did a big cull on his
Speaker 1: personal Instagram account and he removed every single photo of
Speaker 1: him with Olivia and may I point now, this is
Speaker 1: whilst he's holidaying in Japan, So you think you'd have.
Speaker 4: Better things to do. Carlor's Instagram, you see holidaying with.
Speaker 1: Though he's holidaying with someone who could potentially be his boyfriend,
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure. I don't want to
Speaker 1: They could just be friends as well if it was
Speaker 1: a friend, because you know, if you're on holiday and
Speaker 1: you're really slagging somebody off and you're like, right, I'm
Speaker 1: going to delete all the photos of it. That's a
Speaker 1: real fuck you because that actually impacts on his styling business.
Speaker 1: That's his work. You know, he was she was often
Speaker 1: in the clothes that he dressed her. I wonder, though,
Speaker 1: could this have something to do with Morgan Waterhouse, because
Speaker 1: you said that they last appeared on each other's feeds
Speaker 1: in September twenty twenty four, just before Christmas. You've got
Speaker 1: to remember Morgan Waterhouse put out that really bitchy TikTok
Speaker 1: where he was alluding to Olivia cheating on him when
Speaker 1: multiple people she references she was a narcissister. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you've got to remember that Paul was friends with Morgan Waterhouse,
Speaker 1: That's why he set the til So maybe he is
Speaker 1: team Morgan. I think it's a case of when it
Speaker 1: comes to a breakup, you try and be friends with
Speaker 1: both parties originally, and it gets to a point where
Speaker 1: that's no longer possible. And perhaps he's picked Morgan over Olivia,
Speaker 1: which I don't know why he would if she was
Speaker 1: so helpful to his career and his best friend.
Speaker 7: We're moving.
Speaker 4: What you don't want to move?
Speaker 1: House influencers Steph Claire Smith and Georgie Stevenson have a
Speaker 1: lot in common. They're both young multi millionaires who launched
Speaker 1: highly successful wellness businesses off the back of their large
Speaker 1: social media followings. They're also both pregnant with their second
Speaker 1: child and have just sold their dream homes after living
Speaker 1: in them for only a couple of years. But despite
Speaker 1: all the similarities, they have chosen completely different content strategies
Speaker 1: when it comes to sharing about the sales of their homes.
Speaker 1: One strategy has attracted followers, while the other is turning
Speaker 1: them away, and the results may surprise you, Kate, can
Speaker 1: you tell us more?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Georgie Stephenson has been completely transparent about her move, so
Speaker 1: she told her followers in February that she and her
Speaker 1: husband had put their dream home on the market for
Speaker 1: eat the sale or rent because they wanted to find
Speaker 1: a house that was more family friendly. Since then, Georgie
Speaker 1: confirmed that they have found tenants to rent their home
Speaker 1: and they had purchased a new house with more land
Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Georgie has kept the content rolling, sharing videos documenting the move,
Speaker 1: as well as a three year old daughter's reaction to
Speaker 1: seeing their new home for the first time.
Speaker 4: Gosh, this house is so stunning.
Speaker 1: It is insane. I've been listening to a few podcasts
Speaker 1: with Georgie Stephenson and she was talking about how if
Speaker 1: you ever see, for example, someone's new house on social
Speaker 1: media and you feel jealous of it, that should be
Speaker 1: you should take that as a positive, as a reflection
Speaker 1: of something aim to aim for. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I am aiming for a beautiful house. That is, I'm
Speaker 1: going to channel my jealousy into being manifesting a nicer house.
Speaker 4: I'm the opposite of that.
Speaker 1: I'll just be sitting there being like absolutely spewing, spitting chips.
Speaker 4: Why can't I live in a house like this?
Speaker 1: I mean? She explained that when you get jealous of something,
Speaker 1: it kind of shows you what you want in life.
Speaker 1: And it's true, It's true we all want a six
Speaker 1: million dollars coastal home. Well for everyone who wants to
Speaker 1: check out the house, she has created a home account
Speaker 1: on Instagram and named it the Palm Hill House, and
Speaker 1: in the bio it says modern coastal family home overlooking
Speaker 1: the Gold Coaster. At the time of recording, it has
Speaker 1: over seven thousand follow us. I'm surprised it doesn't have more,
Speaker 1: Maybe because there's so.
Speaker 4: Many different houses to follow people kunky up.
Speaker 1: I always find it so strange when I see children,
Speaker 1: like for example, Georgie's daughter, seeing the house for the
Speaker 1: first time, and the realization that for them, oh, this
Speaker 1: is just my home.
Speaker 4: Like they don't know any different.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing because it was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: here's your toy room, and it's like bigger than most
Speaker 1: people's houses. I was like, wow.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Georgie also shared a video of her and her husband
Speaker 1: hugging at the front of their new home with the
Speaker 1: heading buying our fifth house together. She then outlined a
Speaker 1: timeline of the five homes that she's purchased over the years,
Speaker 1: and she was quick to add that while both her
Speaker 1: and her husband's parents had encouraged them to buy a
Speaker 1: house young, they weren't given any money for it and
Speaker 1: bought it themselves now for those interested. The couple bought
Speaker 1: their first home in twenty seventeen, which was a townhouse
Speaker 1: in Brisbane they now rented out to students. Then in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, they bought a Hampton's inspired house, which they
Speaker 1: now rent to a family. In twenty twenty one, they
Speaker 1: bought an old cottage in the Gold Coast Hintland that
Speaker 1: they renovated and named the beach Mont Chalets, and they
Speaker 1: now rented out on Airbnb. That house is absolutely stunning.
Speaker 1: I needed some help from Georgie for a house name
Speaker 1: because my house account is called Golden Hills Home, which
Speaker 1: sounds completely lame and lackluster compared to these trying to
Speaker 1: push her home account the whole time. It's like three
Speaker 1: posts of it's like, fuck all on it. Well, it's
Speaker 1: because my kitchen is about to be ready, so I
Speaker 1: need to tease.
Speaker 4: It's a people. We don't have a little.
Speaker 1: Back to Georgie's properties. So she then purchased their dream
Speaker 1: home in twenty twenty two, which was a six story
Speaker 1: mansion overlooking the Gold Coast skyline that they now rent out. Now,
Speaker 1: this home, we spoke about it in length a couple
Speaker 1: of months ago, but it was up for sale for
Speaker 1: nine point nine million or five point five thousand a
Speaker 1: week four rent they've got rented in there. Their fifth
Speaker 1: home is a six point five million dollar luxury property
Speaker 1: on an acreage with panoramic views. As you said, Amy,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely stunning. It's what's incredible about Georgie Stevenson and
Speaker 1: her success is the fact that it's not like she's
Speaker 1: sold any of these properties, like she and her husband
Speaker 1: retain these properties.
Speaker 4: Think of the equity now.
Speaker 1: It's the first time I've seen a female influencer be
Speaker 1: so upfront about their assets. And what is clear is
Speaker 1: this as a strategic move by Georgie because after outlining
Speaker 1: her property portfolio to her Instagram followers, she added, also,
Speaker 1: very proud of us for doing the money mindset work
Speaker 1: for our subconscious to feel safe enough to take risks
Speaker 1: and constantly leverage what we have to take our next step.
Speaker 1: She then invited her followers to comment freebie to receive
Speaker 1: a free resource about money Mindset to read. I thought
Speaker 1: that this approach might piss some people off, just because,
Speaker 1: as we touched on, due to jealousy, and also because
Speaker 1: people seem to feel really uncomfortable about women ever talking
Speaker 1: about their achievements very unfairly, But it actually appears to
Speaker 1: have done the complete opposite because in the past thirty days,
Speaker 1: Georgie has gained two point nine thousand followers. And I
Speaker 1: know there has been some commentary that it's tone deaf
Speaker 1: of Georgia Das share about her five properties and the
Speaker 1: current economic climate, but it's consistent with her personal brand.
Speaker 1: Georgie's personal and business brand is about wellness, goal setting,
Speaker 1: and manifesting to get your dream life. And you get
Speaker 1: that from her on social media and it feels authentic.
Speaker 1: That's the thing she's so unashamably her. I think what's
Speaker 1: more difficult is when people try to show you a
Speaker 1: little bit of their wealth and then a little bit
Speaker 1: of how they're relatable. Yeah, and that's where we moved
Speaker 1: to Steph Claire Smith. So in November last year, super
Speaker 1: slu spotted that her mansion was set to be listed
Speaker 1: for sale on white Fox real Estate. That name will
Speaker 1: sound familiar because a couple of months ago White Fox
Speaker 1: was embroiled in a bit of a scandal because they
Speaker 1: had this marketing campaign where they boasted about making houses
Speaker 1: more expensive since twenty seventeen. And then she's on the
Speaker 1: Money podcast of Victoria Divine got involved because she's stuck
Speaker 1: up for the CEO Marty. Anyway, it was a big ordeal.
Speaker 1: If you are interested, you can go back and have
Speaker 1: a listen to that episode. But White Fox is known
Speaker 1: for dealing with a lot of influences and celebrities.
Speaker 4: Properties.
Speaker 1: They sell mansions and real to Lana. Samuel shared a
Speaker 1: photo outside of Steph's property with the caption the deal
Speaker 1: the Palms coming soon, and they also shared a real
Speaker 1: showing off the amazing property. Now, the news came off
Speaker 1: the back of Steph's husband, Josh Miller, publicly announcing to
Speaker 1: the media that he was selling his family's Murray River
Speaker 1: property for eight million dollars.
Speaker 4: That's where they got married, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they also got engaged there, so it meant a
Speaker 1: lot to the family, and we covered the story back
Speaker 1: in November as it caused a lot of intrigue, particularly
Speaker 1: because the couple only purchased their seven million dollar mansion
Speaker 1: back in late twenty twenty one. Now, last week, Steph
Speaker 1: opened up about the sale for the first time on
Speaker 1: her podcast. This is what she said.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have an exciting life update, which I've kind
Speaker 3: of semi spoken about little bits here and there, but
Speaker 3: haven't really gone into depth about because a lot of
Speaker 3: people have kind of just already known about it out
Speaker 3: of my own control.
Speaker 4: Which is it is what it is.
Speaker 3: I've accepted it and I'm moving on and now I'm
Speaker 3: going to talk about it and it's coming from me,
Speaker 3: So you can know it is true.
Speaker 1: Now it's clear Steph was unhappy about the speculation about
Speaker 1: her house sale, saying this.
Speaker 3: So basically, lay last year we sold our place that
Speaker 3: we're in, and I just all I want to answer, right,
Speaker 3: because every time I do a question box, people are like,
Speaker 3: why did you sell your house? I didn't even talk
Speaker 3: about the fact that we were selling our house. So again,
Speaker 3: that's where it comes to. These facts aren't always within
Speaker 3: our control of what people talk about online about us
Speaker 3: in the media, which.
Speaker 1: Is so can we just say but it is what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: So people spoke about your house moving and why you
Speaker 2: are moving, Yes, I have to say something, and when
Speaker 2: they talk about it in a way that it's like fact, yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's completely not.
Speaker 4: Oh there's been different things.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just but it's funny because we get caught
Speaker 2: up and listening to these gossip things and being like, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: that must be why, Like that's why, and it's like.
Speaker 1: Look reading between the lines. I think step and Laura
Speaker 1: were having a little bit of a dig at our
Speaker 1: podcast because we spoke about Steph and her husband selling
Speaker 1: their house a few months ago. Yeah, and they had
Speaker 1: just done this really big push to promote the family property.
Speaker 1: Josh was giving quotes to different publications at AFR and
Speaker 1: real estate dot Com, and then when we noticed that
Speaker 1: their Melbourne home was for sale and it was coming soon,
Speaker 1: we assumed that they would do the same push, but
Speaker 1: they went quiet. So we were saying, oh, maybe they're
Speaker 1: looking to consolidate and sell a whole bunch of their
Speaker 1: properties and buy a much bigger house to move into.
Speaker 1: I mean, Steph had just been on the AFR Young
Speaker 1: Rich List as well, so obviously things were going well
Speaker 1: for her now. Steph went on to say on her
Speaker 1: podcast that she wasn't going to go into all of
Speaker 1: the reasons why she's selling her home, but one of
Speaker 1: the reasons was because she wanted to be closer to
Speaker 1: her family and friends. So currently the couple live over
Speaker 1: an hour away from her brother and their close friends,
Speaker 1: and Steph explained that her parents actually no longer live
Speaker 1: in Melbourne, so when they come to visit her and
Speaker 1: her brother, it's really hard for them to see both
Speaker 1: of them with this big distance between them. She also
Speaker 1: said that they have now found a home that they
Speaker 1: want to settle down in for the long term and
Speaker 1: confirm that they're moving a month before her due date. Look,
Speaker 1: I listened to this whole podcast, and the one thing
Speaker 1: that I took away from that is that she said
Speaker 1: that they weren't going to go into all of the reasons.
Speaker 1: This is the very wholesome reason as to why they
Speaker 1: are moving, and it sounds to be a very valid reason.
Speaker 1: But I also think it's a bit naive to think
Speaker 1: that people aren't going to be interested in the fact
Speaker 1: that you've got two properties up to sale at the
Speaker 1: same time, and people aren't going to make their own conclusion.
Speaker 1: And Steph's reluctancy to share about her move appears to
Speaker 1: be a part of a broader strategy to keep elements
Speaker 1: of her private life offline. So almost a year ago,
Speaker 1: Steph made the decision to hide her three year old son,
Speaker 1: Harvey's facial or social.
Speaker 4: Media is not a year ago.
Speaker 1: It was which we've barely spoken about it. I don't
Speaker 1: think any listeners should be aware of that. But she
Speaker 1: does put emojis over his face. Yeah, and she still
Speaker 1: regularly posts content about Harvey and talks about him on
Speaker 1: her podcast, but she just senses his face, So the
Speaker 1: privacy comes down to just what his face looks like,
Speaker 1: rather than keeping private details about him off the internet.
Speaker 1: I also think that it's not just part of the
Speaker 1: strategy of having more of a private life, because I
Speaker 1: don't think that they have a private life. I think
Speaker 1: is a strategy to be relatable, because it's not very
Speaker 1: relatable when you have two multimillion dollar properties. For Georgie Stevenson,
Speaker 1: she doesn't care about being relatable because she's trying to
Speaker 1: push a business that's about people succeeding and having successful businesses.
Speaker 1: But for Steph, she her brand is centered somewhat well.
Speaker 4: Trying to be centered on relatability.
Speaker 1: But that being said, I have heard Steph and Laura
Speaker 1: talk on many business podcasts about their strategy behind Kick,
Speaker 1: So sometimes they do wear the hat of being these
Speaker 1: really successful business owners, but then other times they seem
Speaker 1: like they don't want to address how much money Kicks made.
Speaker 1: I really do think Steph needs to sit down with
Speaker 1: a marketing professional and work out what her personal brand
Speaker 1: is and what her business brand is and and sure
Speaker 1: they aligned, because I think there are odds with each
Speaker 1: other because at the moment, she really is mining her
Speaker 1: life for podcast content, and she has been sharing some
Speaker 1: really personal details, but then she gets shocked when people
Speaker 1: feel like they deserve to know about her big life
Speaker 1: changes and movie. You can see where Steph's coming from
Speaker 1: in terms of her reluctancy to share about her recent
Speaker 1: move because there are a lot of concerns around her safety.
Speaker 1: She's got a young family. She doesn't really want to
Speaker 1: be sharing her address and telling people, Hey, we're moving
Speaker 1: yeah these days. Yeah, And I totally get that. And
Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson has come out and said that being so
Speaker 1: open about her move has actually led people to locating
Speaker 1: her home on real estate dot Com and doing drive buys.
Speaker 1: But the unfortunate reality is that both Steph and Georgie's
Speaker 1: homes were readily available for anyone who wanted to find
Speaker 1: them on the internet when they first purchased them years ago.
Speaker 1: Used to real estate dot com. But could you say
Speaker 1: that for anyone anytime anyone shares in front of their
Speaker 1: sould sign, it doesn't take people long to locate their house.
Speaker 1: It's not just from the sales sign. Real estate dot
Speaker 1: Com have actually published articles about the homes that they've
Speaker 1: moved into had and they've put pictures in them. Look,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, content strategies aside and
Speaker 1: followers aside. I think it's up to Stephan Josh what
Speaker 1: they feel most comfortable with for them. I think they
Speaker 1: probably felt comfortable to share about the move once they
Speaker 1: were out of the house.
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: She's actually spoken about it and they're still in the house.
Speaker 1: So that's what I didn't get. It's like, why not
Speaker 1: wait until you're actually in it and then share it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that they're both pole opposite ways
Speaker 1: to do so, and it comes down to the individual
Speaker 1: just because one is better for content and one is
Speaker 1: and I don't think it means that one way is
Speaker 1: right and one way is wrong.
Speaker 6: Fast forward, you guys, two weeks later, I get this
Speaker 6: letter and I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1: Meghan Markle has stunned the Internet by sending a handwritten
Speaker 1: letter to a podcaster who called her inauthentic following the release.
Speaker 4: Of her Netflix promo.
Speaker 1: This letter was so beautifully presented, so it was written
Speaker 1: in Meghan's perfect calligraphy style, and it was sent to
Speaker 1: podcast Amanda hirtch So. She hosts the Not Skinny but
Speaker 1: Not Fat podcast, and in January, Amanda shared her unfiltered
Speaker 1: opinion of Meghan's Netflix trailer to TikTok saying this.
Speaker 6: You guys, I'm genuinely concerned for Megan. I am not
Speaker 6: a Megan hater at all. I know feels like a
Speaker 6: lively situation kind of when people just piled on this woman.
Speaker 6: I don't know that I'm like her, you know. It's
Speaker 6: just like I'm not sure yet. I haven't made formed
Speaker 6: an opinion. I don't hate her like a lot of
Speaker 6: the world does. I just I don't know. I understand
Speaker 6: the people. Some people are like, she's an authentic I
Speaker 6: get it. And what I'm scared. What I'm so scared
Speaker 6: for her is that this Netflix show will make those
Speaker 6: claims stronger. From the trailer, it looks like it might
Speaker 6: be like kind of trying to be a Martha Steward
Speaker 6: situation that feels a little forced. In the trailer at
Speaker 6: least doesn't seem like she's gonna come across relatable, which
Speaker 6: I feel like she'll want to.
Speaker 4: Try to be. And I'm just scared for her.
Speaker 6: Megan, why do you have to go do that consult
Speaker 6: with me?
Speaker 4: Like I would have told you. I would have told you.
Speaker 1: Look, it definitely wasn't the worst response video to a
Speaker 1: promo that I've seen. If anything, I think that she
Speaker 1: was saying she's a bit of a fan of Megan.
Speaker 1: She likes her and that's why she's so worried for
Speaker 1: what's going to come.
Speaker 4: After seeing the promo.
Speaker 1: She seemed to be very much on the fence about Meghan,
Speaker 1: and so late last week, Amanda revealed on TikTok that
Speaker 1: she received this letter from Meghan and it was written
Speaker 1: on Meghan's official letterhead, which featured her own special monogram
Speaker 1: and crown. So the letter read, Dear Amanda, I heard
Speaker 1: you were feeling scared. Don't be This is the fun part.
Speaker 1: Let's enjoy it, and she signed off with as ever Meghan.
Speaker 4: I'm shocked that she has.
Speaker 1: Her own official letter head that features a crown, because,
Speaker 1: if anything, they've wanted to try and distance themselves from
Speaker 1: the royal family.
Speaker 4: Understand that she's still a duchess.
Speaker 1: But that shocked me. Well, a few people were saying that, like, oh,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to be part of the royal
Speaker 1: family anymore, why would.
Speaker 4: You still have that?
Speaker 1: I think, why the hell would you not. She's married
Speaker 1: to Prince Harry, she's the Duchess of Sussex. I hope
Speaker 1: that everything is being copyrighted and is above all, because
Speaker 1: she seems to have an issue with every single logo
Speaker 1: she puts out next me and I'm sure Daily Mail
Speaker 1: will be accusing her of copying the McDonald's m or something.
Speaker 1: The funniest thing was Amanda said that she actually smelt
Speaker 1: the letter. She's like, I had to give it a
Speaker 1: sniff just to see if it had that royal smell.
Speaker 1: Did it smell well, she didn't really say what it
Speaker 1: smelled like. But would you have smelled a letter from Megan? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I would have because I get the vibe that with
Speaker 1: all of the teas that she makes and the flower arranging,
Speaker 1: that it would have some sort of floral spring scent
Speaker 1: to it. I just think it was such a great
Speaker 1: move by Meghan, because although Amanda wasn't rude about her
Speaker 1: like a lot of people have been on TikTok, it's
Speaker 1: just a really classy response to some criticism. It's clever
Speaker 1: because she's not giving her attention to the trolls, but
Speaker 1: she's still saying, hey everyone, I'm aware of the feedback.
Speaker 1: I can see it all. Remember that I am a
Speaker 1: real person. I want the day. Yeah, and also, I mean,
Speaker 1: Amanda's podcast is a really big US podcast, and a
Speaker 1: lot of her fans have been saying, well, maybe Megan
Speaker 1: wants to appear on your podcast. It also seems like
Speaker 1: Meghan has transformed Amanda into a bit of a fangirl now.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Amanda said she's a fan for life. She
Speaker 1: said she's framed this letter. A lot of the listeners
Speaker 1: of Amanda's podcast also said, look, to be honest, I
Speaker 1: didn't really like Meghan after seeing the TV show, but
Speaker 1: after seeing her send you this letter and how classy
Speaker 1: it was, we and our team Meghan, Well, I think
Speaker 1: that is all we have time for today. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us for another episode. If you
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