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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy hembro

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Speaker 1: unfollows her husband on Instagram for a third time. The

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Speaker 1: content strategies behind influences multimillion dollar mansion sales? What exactly

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Speaker 1: has gone down between Olivia Rodgers and her stylist Paul

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Speaker 1: for SACI and Meghan Markle's handwritten clapback? The first Mikayla

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Speaker 1: tester has finally dropped the first of three explosive podcast

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Speaker 1: episodes about the Paul family. The first installment went for

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Speaker 1: two and a half hours, and I was hooked for

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Speaker 1: every second of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was watching it at home and Dale was like,

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Speaker 1: what on earth are you watching?

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Speaker 3: This?

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Speaker 1: Sounds like absolute crapp I'm like, Dale, you don't even understand.

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Speaker 1: This is a pop culture moment right here. It was

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Speaker 1: on YouTube and I really love this format for Mikayla

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Speaker 1: because it felt like you were having a debrief with

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Speaker 1: one of your best friends in bed. The thing I

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Speaker 1: liked most about it is she made a point of

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Speaker 1: saying that she wasn't monetizing the YouTube because she sees

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Speaker 1: it as immoral and no one should be profiting off her.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that that was a really clever move.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's already sitting at almost a million views.

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Speaker 1: Can you think of the amount of ads revenue she.

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Speaker 4: Could have made.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she could have made a lot. And she also

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Speaker 1: points out that she had different podcasts requesting her to

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Speaker 1: come on. I think this is the best way that

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Speaker 1: she could have put this information out there, and we

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Speaker 1: will be going into more detail on Friday's show about

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Speaker 1: She provided a lot of receipts and I think she

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Speaker 1: came across as very intelligent and very articulate. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe that she sat there speaking like that for two

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Speaker 1: and a half hours. She was captivating. Yeah, it was captivating.

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Speaker 1: Her boyfriend has come out and said that they filmed

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Speaker 1: for I think ten hours, and they've had to put

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Speaker 1: a lot of time into the editing. As you said, Amy,

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Speaker 1: we will be covering it all on Friday because we

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Speaker 1: really wanted more time to sit with the content and

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Speaker 1: take it in before discussing it on air. Now, one

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Speaker 1: frivolous thing I want to ask you guys about this

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Speaker 1: podcast episode is what did you eat? Or sitting down

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Speaker 1: and watching that because that was a bit of a

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Speaker 1: trend on TikTok. People were putting up their snacks because

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Speaker 1: this was actually.

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Speaker 4: Like a movie.

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Speaker 1: I originally wasn't planning to watch it, but Reese fell asleep,

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Speaker 1: which was great timing for me, and we had had

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Speaker 1: Indian takeaway and I was so forward, I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: need a sweet treat during this, so Reese had actually

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Speaker 1: got me a Biscof brownie from the bakery down the

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Speaker 1: road and it was delightful with a cup of tea.

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Speaker 4: So I didn't have anything.

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Speaker 1: I was getting ready for a wedding and had my

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Speaker 1: in laws over doing Reno's. I was huddled in my bedroom,

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Speaker 1: sitting in front of my mirror and all I could

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Speaker 1: think was, I hope they can't hear this at all,

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Speaker 1: because it would have been like, what the hell is

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Speaker 4: What about you?

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Speaker 5: Amy?

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Speaker 1: I had pringles and also which I haven't had ages,

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Speaker 1: but Dale got them for me, and a picnic bar.

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Speaker 4: Which was Brandon's recommend it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know if I told you about this, Kate,

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Speaker 1: but randomly Brandon had this poll at work for all

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Speaker 1: of his colleagues to vote on the top favorites, chocolate

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Speaker 1: and picnic one, which shocked me to my care because

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Speaker 1: it's never been a favorite of mine. I've always rated

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Speaker 1: picnics until I choked on one as a kid at

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Speaker 1: the movie. I haven't had one for years, and I've

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Speaker 1: got to agree there is something just delicious about a

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Speaker 2: I'm eating my dessert.

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Speaker 1: How do you eat it?

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Speaker 2: If your hands?

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Speaker 1: In what's starting to feel like groundhog Day? Tammy Hembro

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Speaker 1: has dramatically unfollowed her husband Matt Sakowski on Instagram for

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Speaker 1: a third time. The unfollow came just days after the

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Speaker 1: fitness influencers shared a teary TikTok confessing she was feeling

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Speaker 1: flat and having a tough week. So can you bring

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Speaker 1: us up to speed?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, I first became aware of this when a super

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Speaker 1: sleuth reached out with a screenshot showing that Tammy was

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Speaker 1: no longer following that on Instagram, and I just thought,

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Speaker 1: are they serious again? This is happening again? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand it at all. I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: having a fight with Reese and the first thing I

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Speaker 1: think to do is unfollow or block him, and I

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Speaker 1: mean with her, she knows that people are going to

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Speaker 1: notice it as well.

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Speaker 4: As I saying.

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Speaker 1: What makes it worse is their careers are on social media,

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Speaker 1: so it's even more of a statement. Tammy also appears

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Speaker 1: to have removed a number of recent photos of them together.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping that she's using the archive tooll rather than

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Speaker 1: the dirty delete, because that would rather awkward being like,

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Speaker 1: oh fuck Jo reupload her.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 1: I noticed that Matt's in Melbourne and I wondered if

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Speaker 1: that had anything to do with this recent unfollow Yeah, Amy,

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Speaker 1: he is in Melbourne currently, and what makes this argument

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Speaker 1: a little bit different is usually he will retaliate and

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Speaker 1: unfollow Tammy, but this time he didn't, which said a

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Speaker 1: lot to me because in the past it's been a

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Speaker 1: bit unclear who unfollowed who first because it's happened pretty simultaneously.

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Speaker 1: And in this case, maybe Matt can't risk the petty

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Speaker 1: unfollowed back because he has some groveling to do over something. Well,

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Speaker 1: it seems like every time Matt is away there seems

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Speaker 1: to be some kind of issue that results in Tammy

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Speaker 1: unfollowing him. Do we think, potentially maybe he's matured and

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Speaker 1: that's why he didn't unfollow back. Maybe it looks I

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Speaker 1: think he fucked up and that's why he didn't unfollow back.

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Speaker 1: Or he just knows the pattern now and he's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so Tammy's gonna unfollow me, then I'm gonna smooth it

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Speaker 1: all over with her and then she'll just follow me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the logistics of having to go follow and unfollow,

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Speaker 1: and he probably knows it will lead to a bigger

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Speaker 1: argument if he does the unfollowed back. The timing of

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Speaker 1: the unfollow is pretty crazy because it comes exactly four

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Speaker 1: months to the day since their wedding at the Anniversary Tommy.

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Speaker 1: And it's also been a year since Matt and Tammy

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Speaker 1: first unfollowed each other, and that was, of course, after

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Speaker 1: the infamous Grand Prix fiasco. How was that a year ago?

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Speaker 1: Time is absolutely flying. I was wondering whether Grand Prix

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Speaker 1: didn't really seem to make a mark like it did

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Speaker 1: last year. And this has made more sense to me

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Speaker 1: because Tammy briefly unfollowed Matt after he was caught out

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Speaker 1: dming another woman after a night out at the f Ones.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, but wasn't he just dming her for his friend?

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Speaker 4: That was his player.

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Speaker 1: It was just wingmanning his friend now the woman in question.

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Speaker 1: She ended up sharing the exchange in a Facebook group

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Speaker 1: called Tea Time, and she showed Matt asking if she

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Speaker 1: was still with her boyfriend, and she responded still marrying Tammy.

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Speaker 4: That was a very iconic response.

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Speaker 1: These unfollows seemed to come at very pivotal moments because

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Speaker 1: the second unfollow was only a few days before their

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Speaker 1: joint Hucks party was set to kick off. Now I

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Speaker 1: an actual term. It is a joint Bucks and Hens party.

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Speaker 1: It's not so bizarre, It's not our weird adelaide pronunciation Bucks.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Followers first became aware of that unfollow when Tammy's account

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Speaker 1: was temporarily deactivated. Within an hour, it was back up,

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Speaker 1: but she was following one less person, which of course

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Speaker 1: was her fiance Matt. And Matt also wasn't following Tammy,

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Speaker 1: but weirdly, he was out and about with his sister

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Speaker 1: Emma at a market place and he shared this bizarre

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Speaker 1: not only is this random to share at a market

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Speaker 1: even weirder when your ex girlfriend who her name is

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Speaker 1: still on your ass owns a dashhound who you used

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Speaker 1: to live with, and you regularly posted about your name

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Speaker 1: is still on You're, of course referring to his tattoo

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Speaker 1: It's just crazy that this keeps happening. Yeah. I saw

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Speaker 1: a lot of people online talking about this in different

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Speaker 1: Facebook groups, and most of the commentary was around who

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Speaker 1: is sad enough to keep checking on Tammy Hembro's following

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Speaker 1: with the Lord's work. Yeah, peop who were saying what's

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Speaker 1: more pathetic the fact that Tammy keeps on following Matt

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Speaker 1: or the fact that people keep checking. I want to

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Speaker 4: And I think it's we.

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Speaker 1: All sent something as going down because Tammy put out

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Speaker 1: a few clues over the weekend. So on Friday, she

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Speaker 4: Here's part of what she said.

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Speaker 7: those days where everything just sort of piles on top

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Speaker 1: Now, poor Tammy, she was on the verge of tears

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Speaker 1: in this video, and she went on to explain that

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Speaker 1: because he'd eaten something that was obstructing his bow. She

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Speaker 4: And of course this will be.

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Speaker 1: Enough to upset anyone, But I feel like there was

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Speaker 1: more to the story. I don't think that she was

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Speaker 1: just upset about this isolated incident. It sounded like there

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Speaker 1: it was this line that made me feel like things

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Speaker 5: One of those days where you like feel like you

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Speaker 5: need to cry. I guess I'm going to try and

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Speaker 5: like go to dinner or something tonight, to just get

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Speaker 5: They really can't cry in this video. No, I'm doing

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Speaker 5: my conciller. No, what it is okay to cry and

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Speaker 5: to have days like this and to just fell flat sometimes,

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Speaker 5: especially like you know, when you have things going on.

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Speaker 1: To me, when someone talks about wanting to get all

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Speaker 1: dressed up and put makeup on and go out for

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Speaker 1: a night out with their friends, it sounds like they're

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Speaker 1: taking their mind off relationship troubles, not necessarily as sick

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Speaker 1: or injured out of them. I think Tammys used her

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Speaker 1: sit cat as a bit of a diversion to put

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Speaker 1: a message out there that she's not happy. Probably she's

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Speaker 1: probably hoping that Matt sees her upset. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: think what made it even more suspicious was the fact that,

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Speaker 1: and he posted a photo out at the football with

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Speaker 1: his friends. Interestingly, Tammy did not like this photo. And

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Speaker 1: things started getting even more suspicious over the weekend because

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Speaker 1: Tammy posted a video dancing with her kids, which she

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Speaker 1: generally does do, but she had the caption over the

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Speaker 1: I mean? She explained that when you get jealous of something,

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Speaker 1: bought an old cottage in the Gold Coast Hintland that

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Speaker 1: they renovated and named the beach Mont Chalets, and they

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Speaker 1: now rented out on Airbnb. That house is absolutely stunning.

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Speaker 1: I needed some help from Georgie for a house name

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Speaker 1: because my house account is called Golden Hills Home, which

444
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Speaker 1: sounds completely lame and lackluster compared to these trying to

445
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Speaker 1: push her home account the whole time. It's like three

446
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Speaker 1: posts of it's like, fuck all on it. Well, it's

447
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Speaker 1: because my kitchen is about to be ready, so I

448
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Speaker 1: need to tease.

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Speaker 4: It's a people. We don't have a little.

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Speaker 1: Back to Georgie's properties. So she then purchased their dream

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Speaker 1: home in twenty twenty two, which was a six story

452
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Speaker 1: mansion overlooking the Gold Coast skyline that they now rent out. Now,

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Speaker 1: this home, we spoke about it in length a couple

454
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Speaker 1: of months ago, but it was up for sale for

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Speaker 1: nine point nine million or five point five thousand a

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Speaker 1: week four rent they've got rented in there. Their fifth

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Speaker 1: home is a six point five million dollar luxury property

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Speaker 1: on an acreage with panoramic views. As you said, Amy,

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely stunning. It's what's incredible about Georgie Stevenson and

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Speaker 1: her success is the fact that it's not like she's

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Speaker 1: sold any of these properties, like she and her husband

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Speaker 1: retain these properties.

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Speaker 4: Think of the equity now.

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Speaker 1: It's the first time I've seen a female influencer be

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Speaker 1: so upfront about their assets. And what is clear is

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Speaker 1: this as a strategic move by Georgie because after outlining

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Speaker 1: her property portfolio to her Instagram followers, she added, also,

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Speaker 1: very proud of us for doing the money mindset work

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Speaker 1: for our subconscious to feel safe enough to take risks

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Speaker 1: and constantly leverage what we have to take our next step.

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Speaker 1: She then invited her followers to comment freebie to receive

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Speaker 1: a free resource about money Mindset to read. I thought

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Speaker 1: that this approach might piss some people off, just because,

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Speaker 1: as we touched on, due to jealousy, and also because

475
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Speaker 1: people seem to feel really uncomfortable about women ever talking

476
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Speaker 1: about their achievements very unfairly, But it actually appears to

477
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Speaker 1: have done the complete opposite because in the past thirty days,

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Speaker 1: Georgie has gained two point nine thousand followers. And I

479
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Speaker 1: know there has been some commentary that it's tone deaf

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Speaker 1: of Georgia Das share about her five properties and the

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Speaker 1: current economic climate, but it's consistent with her personal brand.

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Speaker 1: Georgie's personal and business brand is about wellness, goal setting,

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Speaker 1: and manifesting to get your dream life. And you get

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Speaker 1: that from her on social media and it feels authentic.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing she's so unashamably her. I think what's

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Speaker 1: more difficult is when people try to show you a

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Speaker 1: little bit of their wealth and then a little bit

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Speaker 1: of how they're relatable. Yeah, and that's where we moved

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Speaker 1: to Steph Claire Smith. So in November last year, super

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Speaker 1: slu spotted that her mansion was set to be listed

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Speaker 1: for sale on white Fox real Estate. That name will

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Speaker 1: sound familiar because a couple of months ago White Fox

493
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Speaker 1: was embroiled in a bit of a scandal because they

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Speaker 1: had this marketing campaign where they boasted about making houses

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Speaker 1: more expensive since twenty seventeen. And then she's on the

496
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Speaker 1: Money podcast of Victoria Divine got involved because she's stuck

497
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Speaker 1: up for the CEO Marty. Anyway, it was a big ordeal.

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Speaker 1: If you are interested, you can go back and have

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Speaker 1: a listen to that episode. But White Fox is known

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Speaker 1: for dealing with a lot of influences and celebrities.

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Speaker 4: Properties.

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Speaker 1: They sell mansions and real to Lana. Samuel shared a

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Speaker 1: photo outside of Steph's property with the caption the deal

504
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Speaker 1: the Palms coming soon, and they also shared a real

505
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Speaker 1: showing off the amazing property. Now, the news came off

506
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Speaker 1: the back of Steph's husband, Josh Miller, publicly announcing to

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Speaker 1: the media that he was selling his family's Murray River

508
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Speaker 1: property for eight million dollars.

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Speaker 4: That's where they got married, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they also got engaged there, so it meant a

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Speaker 1: lot to the family, and we covered the story back

512
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Speaker 1: in November as it caused a lot of intrigue, particularly

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Speaker 1: because the couple only purchased their seven million dollar mansion

514
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Speaker 1: back in late twenty twenty one. Now, last week, Steph

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Speaker 1: opened up about the sale for the first time on

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Speaker 1: her podcast. This is what she said.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I have an exciting life update, which I've kind

518
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Speaker 3: of semi spoken about little bits here and there, but

519
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Speaker 3: haven't really gone into depth about because a lot of

520
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Speaker 3: people have kind of just already known about it out

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Speaker 3: of my own control.

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Speaker 4: Which is it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I've accepted it and I'm moving on and now I'm

524
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Speaker 3: going to talk about it and it's coming from me,

525
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Speaker 3: So you can know it is true.

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Speaker 1: Now it's clear Steph was unhappy about the speculation about

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Speaker 1: her house sale, saying this.

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Speaker 3: So basically, lay last year we sold our place that

529
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Speaker 3: we're in, and I just all I want to answer, right,

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Speaker 3: because every time I do a question box, people are like,

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Speaker 3: why did you sell your house? I didn't even talk

532
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Speaker 3: about the fact that we were selling our house. So again,

533
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Speaker 3: that's where it comes to. These facts aren't always within

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Speaker 3: our control of what people talk about online about us

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Speaker 3: in the media, which.

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Speaker 1: Is so can we just say but it is what

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: So people spoke about your house moving and why you

539
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Speaker 2: are moving, Yes, I have to say something, and when

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Speaker 2: they talk about it in a way that it's like fact, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's completely not.

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Speaker 4: Oh there's been different things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's just but it's funny because we get caught

544
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Speaker 2: up and listening to these gossip things and being like, oh, yes,

545
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Speaker 2: that must be why, Like that's why, and it's like.

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Speaker 1: Look reading between the lines. I think step and Laura

547
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Speaker 1: were having a little bit of a dig at our

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Speaker 1: podcast because we spoke about Steph and her husband selling

549
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Speaker 1: their house a few months ago. Yeah, and they had

550
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Speaker 1: just done this really big push to promote the family property.

551
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: Josh was giving quotes to different publications at AFR and

552
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Speaker 1: real estate dot Com, and then when we noticed that

553
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Speaker 1: their Melbourne home was for sale and it was coming soon,

554
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Speaker 1: we assumed that they would do the same push, but

555
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Speaker 1: they went quiet. So we were saying, oh, maybe they're

556
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Speaker 1: looking to consolidate and sell a whole bunch of their

557
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Speaker 1: properties and buy a much bigger house to move into.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Steph had just been on the AFR Young

559
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Speaker 1: Rich List as well, so obviously things were going well

560
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Speaker 1: for her now. Steph went on to say on her

561
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Speaker 1: podcast that she wasn't going to go into all of

562
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Speaker 1: the reasons why she's selling her home, but one of

563
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Speaker 1: the reasons was because she wanted to be closer to

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Speaker 1: her family and friends. So currently the couple live over

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Speaker 1: an hour away from her brother and their close friends,

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Speaker 1: and Steph explained that her parents actually no longer live

567
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Speaker 1: in Melbourne, so when they come to visit her and

568
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Speaker 1: her brother, it's really hard for them to see both

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Speaker 1: of them with this big distance between them. She also

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Speaker 1: said that they have now found a home that they

571
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Speaker 1: want to settle down in for the long term and

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Speaker 1: confirm that they're moving a month before her due date. Look,

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Speaker 1: I listened to this whole podcast, and the one thing

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Speaker 1: that I took away from that is that she said

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Speaker 1: that they weren't going to go into all of the reasons.

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Speaker 1: This is the very wholesome reason as to why they

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Speaker 1: are moving, and it sounds to be a very valid reason.

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Speaker 1: But I also think it's a bit naive to think

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Speaker 1: that people aren't going to be interested in the fact

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Speaker 1: that you've got two properties up to sale at the

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Speaker 1: same time, and people aren't going to make their own conclusion.

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Speaker 1: And Steph's reluctancy to share about her move appears to

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Speaker 1: be a part of a broader strategy to keep elements

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Speaker 1: of her private life offline. So almost a year ago,

585
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Speaker 1: Steph made the decision to hide her three year old son,

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Speaker 1: Harvey's facial or social.

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Speaker 4: Media is not a year ago.

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Speaker 1: It was which we've barely spoken about it. I don't

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Speaker 1: think any listeners should be aware of that. But she

590
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Speaker 1: does put emojis over his face. Yeah, and she still

591
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Speaker 1: regularly posts content about Harvey and talks about him on

592
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Speaker 1: her podcast, but she just senses his face, So the

593
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Speaker 1: privacy comes down to just what his face looks like,

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Speaker 1: rather than keeping private details about him off the internet.

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Speaker 1: I also think that it's not just part of the

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Speaker 1: strategy of having more of a private life, because I

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Speaker 1: don't think that they have a private life. I think

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Speaker 1: is a strategy to be relatable, because it's not very

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Speaker 1: relatable when you have two multimillion dollar properties. For Georgie Stevenson,

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Speaker 1: she doesn't care about being relatable because she's trying to

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Speaker 1: push a business that's about people succeeding and having successful businesses.

602
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Speaker 1: But for Steph, she her brand is centered somewhat well.

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Speaker 4: Trying to be centered on relatability.

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Speaker 1: But that being said, I have heard Steph and Laura

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Speaker 1: talk on many business podcasts about their strategy behind Kick,

606
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Speaker 1: So sometimes they do wear the hat of being these

607
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Speaker 1: really successful business owners, but then other times they seem

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Speaker 1: like they don't want to address how much money Kicks made.

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Speaker 1: I really do think Steph needs to sit down with

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Speaker 1: a marketing professional and work out what her personal brand

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Speaker 1: is and what her business brand is and and sure

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Speaker 1: they aligned, because I think there are odds with each

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Speaker 1: other because at the moment, she really is mining her

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Speaker 1: life for podcast content, and she has been sharing some

615
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Speaker 1: really personal details, but then she gets shocked when people

616
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Speaker 1: feel like they deserve to know about her big life

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Speaker 1: changes and movie. You can see where Steph's coming from

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Speaker 1: in terms of her reluctancy to share about her recent

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Speaker 1: move because there are a lot of concerns around her safety.

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Speaker 1: She's got a young family. She doesn't really want to

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Speaker 1: be sharing her address and telling people, Hey, we're moving

622
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: yeah these days. Yeah, And I totally get that. And

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Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson has come out and said that being so

624
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Speaker 1: open about her move has actually led people to locating

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Speaker 1: her home on real estate dot Com and doing drive buys.

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Speaker 1: But the unfortunate reality is that both Steph and Georgie's

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00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: homes were readily available for anyone who wanted to find

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00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: them on the internet when they first purchased them years ago.

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Speaker 1: Used to real estate dot com. But could you say

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Speaker 1: that for anyone anytime anyone shares in front of their

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Speaker 1: sould sign, it doesn't take people long to locate their house.

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Speaker 1: It's not just from the sales sign. Real estate dot

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Speaker 1: Com have actually published articles about the homes that they've

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Speaker 1: moved into had and they've put pictures in them. Look,

635
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, content strategies aside and

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Speaker 1: followers aside. I think it's up to Stephan Josh what

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Speaker 1: they feel most comfortable with for them. I think they

638
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Speaker 1: probably felt comfortable to share about the move once they

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Speaker 1: were out of the house.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: She's actually spoken about it and they're still in the house.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I didn't get. It's like, why not

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Speaker 1: wait until you're actually in it and then share it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that they're both pole opposite ways

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Speaker 1: to do so, and it comes down to the individual

646
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Speaker 1: just because one is better for content and one is

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it means that one way is

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Speaker 1: right and one way is wrong.

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Speaker 6: Fast forward, you guys, two weeks later, I get this

650
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Speaker 6: letter and I don't know what's happening.

651
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Speaker 1: Meghan Markle has stunned the Internet by sending a handwritten

652
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Speaker 1: letter to a podcaster who called her inauthentic following the release.

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Speaker 4: Of her Netflix promo.

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Speaker 1: This letter was so beautifully presented, so it was written

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Speaker 1: in Meghan's perfect calligraphy style, and it was sent to

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Speaker 1: podcast Amanda hirtch So. She hosts the Not Skinny but

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Speaker 1: Not Fat podcast, and in January, Amanda shared her unfiltered

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Speaker 1: opinion of Meghan's Netflix trailer to TikTok saying this.

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Speaker 6: You guys, I'm genuinely concerned for Megan. I am not

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Speaker 6: a Megan hater at all. I know feels like a

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Speaker 6: lively situation kind of when people just piled on this woman.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that I'm like her, you know. It's

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Speaker 6: just like I'm not sure yet. I haven't made formed

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Speaker 6: an opinion. I don't hate her like a lot of

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Speaker 6: the world does. I just I don't know. I understand

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Speaker 6: the people. Some people are like, she's an authentic I

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Speaker 6: get it. And what I'm scared. What I'm so scared

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Speaker 6: for her is that this Netflix show will make those

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Speaker 6: claims stronger. From the trailer, it looks like it might

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Speaker 6: be like kind of trying to be a Martha Steward

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Speaker 6: situation that feels a little forced. In the trailer at

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Speaker 6: least doesn't seem like she's gonna come across relatable, which

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Speaker 6: I feel like she'll want to.

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Speaker 4: Try to be. And I'm just scared for her.

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Speaker 6: Megan, why do you have to go do that consult

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Speaker 6: with me?

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Speaker 4: Like I would have told you. I would have told you.

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Speaker 1: Look, it definitely wasn't the worst response video to a

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Speaker 1: promo that I've seen. If anything, I think that she

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Speaker 1: was saying she's a bit of a fan of Megan.

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Speaker 1: She likes her and that's why she's so worried for

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Speaker 1: what's going to come.

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Speaker 4: After seeing the promo.

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Speaker 1: She seemed to be very much on the fence about Meghan,

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Speaker 1: and so late last week, Amanda revealed on TikTok that

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Speaker 1: she received this letter from Meghan and it was written

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Speaker 1: on Meghan's official letterhead, which featured her own special monogram

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Speaker 1: and crown. So the letter read, Dear Amanda, I heard

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Speaker 1: you were feeling scared. Don't be This is the fun part.

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Speaker 1: Let's enjoy it, and she signed off with as ever Meghan.

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Speaker 4: I'm shocked that she has.

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Speaker 1: Her own official letter head that features a crown, because,

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Speaker 1: if anything, they've wanted to try and distance themselves from

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Speaker 1: the royal family.

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Speaker 4: Understand that she's still a duchess.

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Speaker 1: But that shocked me. Well, a few people were saying that, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: if you don't want to be part of the royal

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Speaker 1: family anymore, why would.

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Speaker 4: You still have that?

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Speaker 1: I think, why the hell would you not. She's married

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Speaker 1: to Prince Harry, she's the Duchess of Sussex. I hope

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Speaker 1: that everything is being copyrighted and is above all, because

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Speaker 1: she seems to have an issue with every single logo

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Speaker 1: she puts out next me and I'm sure Daily Mail

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Speaker 1: will be accusing her of copying the McDonald's m or something.

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Speaker 1: The funniest thing was Amanda said that she actually smelt

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Speaker 1: the letter. She's like, I had to give it a

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Speaker 1: sniff just to see if it had that royal smell.

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Speaker 1: Did it smell well, she didn't really say what it

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Speaker 1: smelled like. But would you have smelled a letter from Megan? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I would have because I get the vibe that with

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Speaker 1: all of the teas that she makes and the flower arranging,

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Speaker 1: that it would have some sort of floral spring scent

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Speaker 1: to it. I just think it was such a great

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Speaker 1: move by Meghan, because although Amanda wasn't rude about her

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people have been on TikTok, it's

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Speaker 1: just a really classy response to some criticism. It's clever

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Speaker 1: because she's not giving her attention to the trolls, but

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Speaker 1: she's still saying, hey everyone, I'm aware of the feedback.

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Speaker 1: I can see it all. Remember that I am a

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Speaker 1: real person. I want the day. Yeah, and also, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Amanda's podcast is a really big US podcast, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of her fans have been saying, well, maybe Megan

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Speaker 1: wants to appear on your podcast. It also seems like

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Speaker 1: Meghan has transformed Amanda into a bit of a fangirl now.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Amanda said she's a fan for life. She

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Speaker 1: said she's framed this letter. A lot of the listeners

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Speaker 1: of Amanda's podcast also said, look, to be honest, I

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Speaker 1: didn't really like Meghan after seeing the TV show, but

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Speaker 1: after seeing her send you this letter and how classy

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Speaker 1: it was, we and our team Meghan, Well, I think

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Speaker 1: that is all we have time for today. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us for another episode. If you

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Speaker 1: have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you mentioned

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Speaker 1: our podcast to a friend.

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Speaker 4: It's the way that we grow.

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Speaker 1: Also make sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts and

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Speaker 1: also Spotify. This podcast was recorded on the traditional land

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Speaker 1: of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay

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Speaker 1: respect to elders past and present,