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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gem Nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, Donald Trump's court case starts today. Our next guest

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Speaker 2: is not only in Miami, Florida, where Trump is facing charges.

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Speaker 2: He's just stepped out of the courtroom where today's proceedings

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Speaker 2: have wrapped up. US correspondent for seven US Tim Lester, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hey, how are you going, Hey?

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Speaker 2: Tim?

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Speaker 1: Tim? Yeah? Going well? Over he had. Donald Trump's just

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Speaker 1: appeared for forty eight minutes, didn't say a word, sat

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Speaker 1: arms cross, leaning back in his chair for most of it,

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Speaker 1: looking pretty angry, frankly, scowling and not looking very happy

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Speaker 1: in the court at all. Then, like you flick a switch,

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Speaker 1: he came out of the court in a convoy's car,

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Speaker 1: mobbed extraordinary scenes as he left. He some quite dangerous frankly.

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime he's gone to a cafe before

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Speaker 1: he hopped on his plan to a cafe, a Cuban

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Speaker 1: cafe here in Miami. Got a wonderful reception there. They

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Speaker 1: sang him happy birthday. He turned seventy seven tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: he bought everybody food there. So he's campaigning for president.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's doing here. When you see the attending

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Speaker 1: the court was an inconvenience.

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Speaker 2: When you say he was mobbed, was that by supporters?

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Speaker 1: Well, both, in fact, mainly supporters, certainly most here were

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Speaker 1: running the Trump cause, believe in him. As you know,

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Speaker 1: supporters of Donald Trump can be extraordinarily passionate, and those

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Speaker 1: ones certainly are. But there were a reasonably a reasonable

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Speaker 1: scattering of opponents too, which is an act of courage

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Speaker 1: coming here, and they were kicking around suggesting, you know,

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Speaker 1: with lock him up signs and the like, and really

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Speaker 1: giving the air a bit of a feel of friction, tension.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me with Donald Trump, whenever I see him,

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Speaker 1: there's no consequences for any of his actions. Is that

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Speaker 1: the feeling over there? Well, it's certainly his history has

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Speaker 1: been that. This is the greatest challenge to that yet.

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Speaker 1: The indictments, the documents called that was lodged in the

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Speaker 1: court last week is a quite extraordinary document. It's online.

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Speaker 1: You could read it all thirty seven criminal charges for

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Speaker 1: withholding it essentially hiding classified documents in his resort after

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Speaker 1: he was president, documents he took home from the White

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Speaker 1: House when he left. All are outlined in there. If

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Speaker 1: you combine them, the maximum jail term he could get

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Speaker 1: his four hundred years. Well, I don't think he's going

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Speaker 1: to get that. In fact, realistically, he may very well

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Speaker 1: never serve time even if he's convicted. But you'd have

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Speaker 1: to say, right now, looking at that document, there's got

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Speaker 1: to be a fairly high chance he's convicted at least

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Speaker 1: some of those thirty seven charges.

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Speaker 2: The fact that this case is being heard in Florida,

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Speaker 2: where he has a big support base, where even the

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Speaker 2: judge apparently has favored him in the past, does that

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Speaker 2: mean that we're likely to see him get off.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I doubt he could sway the

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Speaker 1: case enough to do that, and I think the system

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Speaker 1: is likely to be fairly rigorous, the legal system he

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Speaker 1: goes up against. But where Donald Trump is able to

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Speaker 1: play this is in I'm a victim. The Biden administration

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Speaker 1: and Joe Biden are attacking me. This is all drummed up.

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Speaker 1: It's a lie, it's a hoax. So he doesn't discuss

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Speaker 1: the detail. He just draws that broader conclusion. Supporters applaud,

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Speaker 1: they don't question it, and he's and so it's a

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Speaker 1: political rallying cry for him. And whilst I think he

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Speaker 1: might well be convicted, here on at least some charges.

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Speaker 1: He'll also likely drive up his vote and certainly drive

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Speaker 1: up the passion of his supporters in the months ahead,

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Speaker 1: as he of caused campaigns for November next year and

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Speaker 1: another crack at the US president's job. So that's another

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Speaker 1: day in the campaigning of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what happens now is this going for weeks?

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Speaker 2: You think what's going to what's in front of us?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Donald Trump will kick this can down

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Speaker 1: the road as far as he can. That is to say,

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Speaker 1: he will tell his lawyers delay, delay, delay, anything that

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Speaker 1: keeps this case going for as long as possible he'll

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Speaker 1: want to do. And in that sense he sees it

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Speaker 1: as a political haymaking time that is negative in the court,

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Speaker 1: but once he's outside of the court, it's all positive

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Speaker 1: for it. Well, Tim, thank you for more news.

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Speaker 2: Watch seven News tonight at say six o'clock. Tim Lebs

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Speaker 2: a Leicster, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, have a good day. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Tim.