WEBVTT - Mason's Melee 🥊 Big Bump Chat 😞 Petracca Cook Off 👨‍🍳 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.520 Hey, legends, welcome back to the Mason cock Show. Big 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.240 episode today. Your boy got in a scuffle with Richmond. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.080 Who would have thought n RAL went to Vegas. They 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:17.040 got on the piss, I'm sure. And lastly, someone got 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:18.960 hit in the head pretty high over the weekend. We're 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.000 gonna talk about that and much much more in this 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:31.560 episode starting now. All right, Legends, welcome back to the 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.360 Mason cock Show. We've got heaps of stuff to cover here, 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.720 but without further Ado Brandon, welcome to the podcast. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.520 Well, Mace, I want to get your opinion on something 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.960 right off the top, because I think have you mentioned it? 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.040 You're from America from memory? 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.599 Yeah, yes, yes I am, yeah, yes, yes, I am 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:50.040 in America. 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.760 Now you know who's not from America. The AFL, they 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.639 don't want a bar of it. But the NRL. They 0:00:55.680 --> 0:01:00.080 have just been to Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Veva, I 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.960 guess baby. I want to get your feedback on everything 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.919 about that. Because I tuned in they converted me well 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.360 less so to the sport once the sport started. Ah, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:14.280 but before that, the build up, the the show, the extravaganza, 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.319 the bright lights of Las Vegas. I was in so 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.440 I was tuned in? Did you tune in? What did 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:20.319 you think of the whole thing? 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.200 I saw a little bit of the game. I saw 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.720 a lot of the pregame stuff, and then like them 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.520 going over there and hamming it up and all the 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.080 different like they did the fit checks before the game. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.760 They got to wear whatever they wanted. Take note, AFL, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.240 that'd be kind of cool. They got to do all 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.520 this stuff. And I feel like the Vegas you know, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:41.680 I guess lifestyle very much matches what rugby people love, 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.280 and that is a good damn party. So it was 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.360 very well on brand for the interval to go to 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.200 Vegas of all places in America. Yeah, and I love 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.480 the show of it, the whole thing, from all the 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.320 social media clips to them being over there early and 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.880 doing all the different pr and media and getting Gronk 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.920 involved and all these things that were happening. It was 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:05.480 an incredible pr just experience for the NRL. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.160 Was it a missed opportunity for the AFL? 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.840 What do you think? My answer was great. Now, I'm just. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.840 Trying to poke you, but I did, like, did you 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.600 see the videos going in of like the you know, 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.960 how they put the grass on the rollers and roll 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:20.200 it into the stadium. 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.760 Yeah, just backed that up. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:25.920 And they still had the numbers on there and the 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.200 logo from like the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, and 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.239 they're standing in the spot going like this is where 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.440 mahomes through the match winner. Like it was just cool. 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.760 The vibe. It felt like a big game atmosphere, like 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.960 a Marquee game. The desk on the field. I'm a 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.760 fan of the broadcast stuff and that always just feels 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.040 extra special when you've got the desk and the commentators 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.079 down on the ground level. The grass looked mint, the deck, 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.919 look they chewed that up. That's roll that out of 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.120 the stadium and just throw it in the bin because 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.720 it's done. What did you think from a, you know, 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.560 a game perspective, the crowd came in that top tier 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.200 little thin, but saying that NRL is kind of a 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.200 bit thin when it's back here in Australia. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.960 I think their audience they wanted was forty thousand. I 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.160 don't think they got that, but just to get like 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.560 thousands of thousands of people to take notice of it 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.399 in America obviously massive market over there. Rugby's becoming very 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.560 big over there in that sense, so it was a 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.239 great opportunity for them to be able to showcase I 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.880 guess rugby outside of the country in America. So it 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.480 was awesome because I mean I think of rugby right, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.639 Rugby is like bounds ahead of the AFL as far 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.320 as acknowledgment and knowledge of it outside of this country. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.280 Like everyone goes, oh, you play AFL? Is that rugby? 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.920 Is that rugby like? And everyone knows that, But a 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.040 lot of people don't want to admit that because the 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.760 AFL is not known outside of it. Everyone thinks we're rugby. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.240 Everyone thinks that's what the league is. But I think 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.640 these things that are happening over in America and around 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.200 the world being more of an international game, I guess 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:59.080 that's played definitely helps them in being able to get 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.040 attention from more people and more eyes. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.120 Did you ever see that ad growing up there? I 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.520 like to see that with like Evander Holyfield and who 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.480 was a Carl Lewis. Carl Lewis the guy that runs 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.360 real quick. Yeah, they were like they were showcasing in 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.840 America and they're like guys that jump real high. I'd 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.520 like to see that, and then they'd show highlights and stuff. 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.480 Oh no, I understand it. But there was a lot 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.400 of like American NFL players and they were just like, 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.920 I want fucking nothing to do with in Aral. These 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.000 guys are trying to kill each other with our pads, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.000 and that's the that's the selling point, right like of 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.640 AFL in ral anything like that. It's we're crazy Australians 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.080 from a foreign land that just don't give a shit 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.840 about our health and safety, and that's what people love 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.200 in America, so you sell that side of it. I 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.520 think they did pretty well. I'm jealous. I'm very jealous 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.560 of what they did over there, and it's hopefully something 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.360 I don't know if it'll happen in my lifetime, but 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.160 hopefully at some point we can play game over there 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.120 and get their attention to AFL well deserves. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.000 Let's jump into something a bit more serious and we'll 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.120 get on to this off the top of the podcast, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.480 because we had line we spoke about just last week 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.520 of it, like this isn't that long ago preseason. You think, 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.440 let's just ease into this bad boy, but no, Jimmy 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:14.080 Webster massive incident comes out and almost takes Jay Simpkins's 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.560 head clean off his shoulders. Really like it was one 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:21.040 of those incidents. When I saw it, shocked called out 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.760 to my house mate, you got to see this like crazy, 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:29.240 and he's gobsmacked. It's you know, it's hard to fathom 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.360 seeing this in the regular season, let alone in the preseason, 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.000 let alone a week after you know, Power Pepper just 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.400 got four weeks for his incident. So yeah, I don't know. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.240 We spoke about it last week and I said that 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.120 I feel like the players are the last line of 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.719 mitigating risk towards themselves because the AFL is doing what 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.520 they can do, the clubs are doing what they can do, 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.440 and then a couple of percent of AFL players are 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.880 just going rogue out there. I don't know, what did 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.000 you think when you first saw the incident? It looks 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.400 pretty seriously, Oh. 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.520 Dude, I was just like, you know, you see something 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.440 like that happened, you're like, oh, geez, that's not good. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.080 That is not good in the It's kind of weird 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.680 that like AFL kind of like put it up on 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.919 their socials right away, like the hit and stuff. You know, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.719 like when there's something big like that happens, I feel 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.279 like you almost need to maybe just like take a 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.080 step back before you start posting that kind of stuff 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.279 because it's not a great look for the league. Jimmy 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.479 Webster has come out and you know he's admitted he did, 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.440 you know, something that was wrong and as you would 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.240 expect from himself in the club, it was not a 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:31.560 good look at all. It was one of those things 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.919 where he's left the ground, you know, jumped up and 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.040 it didn't even look like he was really trying to 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.320 smother it. He was going straight for bodies. So yeah, yeah, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.359 not good and it was high. Like I think of, 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.640 you know, different situations, it's similar, Like you look at 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:49.440 the one Charlie Cameron in the Grand Final hitting Jeremy 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.200 Howe goes for the body, gets the rib. There's things 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.960 like that, and I reckon it'll actually be completely taken 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.880 out of the game. I think the ifl if the 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.440 ball leaves the foot and you hit someone like that, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.360 like there's to be some kind of you know, it's 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:03.480 going to be probably a week or two. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.599 Yeah, looking at that and basing it off. You know, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.159 Sam pow Pepper hit there was only a week ago 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.920 that got four. I'm seeing this. I don't think there 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.640 would be an argument and normally there's you know, to 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.360 and fro. In the comment section, it was pretty unanimous, 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:20.040 like six to ten, like big penalty coming his way. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.680 Ross Lyon said, you know he's going to get what 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:23.920 he gets, like so. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:25.680 Well, then everyone knows he's going to get suspended, and 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:26.840 it's just a matter of how long. 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.040 Yeah and yeah, this is you know, straight the tribunal. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.440 Plead your case, but there's not much of a case 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.400 to plead because this feels like back in the day 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.200 they used to give you the DVD of like things 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.080 you can't do. This would be the prime example. Like 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.360 I knew he wasn't going to get there in time, 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.080 left the ground, contact with the head, severe contact leading 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.720 to a concussion. It's it's cut and dry. 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:51.920 All the workings to be a terrible experience for. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.920 Cut and dry in terms of a suspension, it's just 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.239 a matter of how long. There was some interesting bye 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:02.200 play after the fact where Jimmy Webster's family has got 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:06.640 involved on social media. Now, obviously he can't control what 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.120 his family has done, but being a player and being 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:15.160 in many incidents both on the receiving and the givings, I'm. 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:16.480 On the football field, don't get me wrong, Bred and 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:17.720 I know it's a nice way of putting it. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.680 Yeah, I ever had to, you know, tell your family 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.840 to rein it in or say just be careful because 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.920 you know they're in the public eye too. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.960 Yeah. And I've been pretty open about my family and 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.680 you know the relationship I have with them and bringing 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.040 them along my AFL journey. They do have social media. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.400 Both my brothers, my mom and dad. I have social media. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.719 I think it's one of those things you want to 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.480 protect them as much as you can, but you know 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.000 they're going to be able to see things just as 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.559 much as you can. My family, especially my mother, will 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.120 will always send me a text message, you know, asking 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:50.920 me how I'm doing, just randomly out of the blue, 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.080 and I usually know what that means. That means someone's 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.600 wrote a dirty article on me. Yea, So I try 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.679 to have to google things pretty quickly after that. But yeah, 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.280 she's she sees it just as much as anyone else. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:02.400 You know. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.160 I understand like family wants to protect their own and 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.800 and all that, but I think some of the comments 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.000 after that, you got to probably just stay away from 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.200 social media or it be Jimmy, the family, everyone else. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.640 I think it's best just to stay off it for 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.599 a little bit, let the let the dust settle, and 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.000 let everything kind of get sorted out. And you know, 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.440 I've I've had the conversation with my family to to 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.160 not kind of bite back at people. Obviously there's negative 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.040 things and people that say things on the internet, but 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.720 there's no benefit I feel like from family members get 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.440 involved in my professional life in that sense in a 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.800 negative way. And you got to think of it as 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.240 like if you were a CEO of a company and 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.679 then like you're someone sacksho and your mother's like, I 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.360 hate you company, You're a terrible person. It's like that's 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:42.480 not going to help you get a job at the 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.679 next place. But say, it's one of those things you 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.800 got to be aware of, you know, if you have 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.679 a public eye in your professional life, like it's not 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.080 only your responsibility but to the people you surround yourself's 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.240 responsibility to make sure that they don't comment inappropriate things. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.520 The problem is, you can never beat the internet. No, 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:01.839 you can never beat the Internet. You're never going to 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.400 get them to go you know what valid point. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.960 Yeah, that will never happen in this life. I guarantee you. 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.040 Now you did jump on the internet, you're pretty good 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.760 at these types of things. You jumped on X if 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.880 you jumped on But I want to ask you in person, sinbin. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.280 You brought this up as a potential solution for some 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.360 of these incidents. Do you believe there should be a 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:23.640 sinbin in the AFL. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.960 I think there should be some version of a sin bin. 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.000 Whether it is whether it is a sinbin or not, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.040 I'm not really sure how they would kind of structure it, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.120 but I think there needs to be adjudication, not by 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.319 the umpires on the field. They can call the free 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.600 kick and everything else and say you know you're under 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.760 report and all that, but I think there needs to 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.160 be someone that's watching the vision up top in the 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:43.880 arc or wherever that room is that they kind of 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.720 make these decisions for goals and stuff and to decide 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.160 whether or not a player it needs to be able 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.160 to continue playing on. I think in local leagues you 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.240 have like yellow cards and red cards and things like that. 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.880 Doesn't make sense that in a professional standpoint, you can 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.600 literally go out there punch ten people in the face 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:01.120 and still play through the rest of the game is 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.560 pretty wild. It's like the only game in the world 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.160 that I know that that kind of exists, there's no 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.040 you know, repercussions to doing something like that. You can 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.360 still play the game out So I'm not really sure 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.760 how it would be structured, but I do think there 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.400 needs to be something where if someone literally gets in 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.080 the fist fight, they shouldn't be able to play the 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.360 rest of the game. Yeah, Like whether it means you 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.240 have to take them off fully put your sub in, 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.720 whatever it is, I'm not sure. But it baffles me 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.720 that the AFL doesn't have any kind of you know, 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.319 punishment for doing an extremely dirty act on field, and 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.280 just beyond Jimmy's thing, like just in general, it kind 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:37.200 of blows my mind. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.440 It have to be a fair bit of restructuring around it. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.480 And yeah, but yeah, I could see it coming in. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.160 I could see it coming in pretty soon. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:45.560 Yep. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:50.360 Like the more the incidents like this happens two or zero, 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.280 So if someone comes out next week and does it again, 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.319 we got to get to a solution because we can't 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.719 just keep you know, having these concussions out there. We 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.080 will get into the Amy Community series, but I just 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.120 want to bring up that name community series because obviously 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.200 IFIL invested a lot of money, a billion dollars into 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.680 growing the game, and we're heading up to New South 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.959 Wales and we're going to Queensland, but we're no longer 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.840 seemed to be going to Bendigo and Mildura and Aubrey 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:18.880 and what happened to these? 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.840 You mean playing the icon Park is not community? 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.520 How the hell is a community series? I didn't say. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.760 They're playing in our arch rivals like Training Ground were. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.080 Not even played in July. They didn't even leave. I know, 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.160 the country town. They're in the community. We're all in 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.200 the community. Melbourne's Oh yeah, the mcg is in the community. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.800 But yeah, I just thought it was it's a bit 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.599 disappointing being a chooker boy on the day. He's a 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.160 rochy boy. Yeah, you're from America, doesn't count. But I 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.600 feel like we're never going there. But yeah, I feel 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.040 like missing out. I used to remember when Richo came 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.400 down and kicked snags at the Moamma Oval and it 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.600 was like froth and footy. That's gone now because we're 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.960 playing down at icon Park, double headed, back to back. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.560 What's going on? So? I don't want to get you 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.920 in trouble, but we need some answers. 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:05.880 I don't get me wrong, I think we would love 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.960 to go play in the community, and I think that's uh. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:09.880 We do spend time in the community. Don't get me wrong, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.640 there is We've been to Moe this year. We've done 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.800 community work out there and we brought the cup and 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.520 then went down to Fish Creek and all these kind 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.839 of places that are very much community. But I think 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.600 the more we get into this, you know, we used 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.079 to have like three preseason games and we had like 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.360 the Nab Cup, and now we've got two preseason games. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.160 Really one preseason game we had a North Melbourne which 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.920 was you know, not even televised. I guess it wasn't KO, 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.240 but it wasn't like proper Foxtel. And I think as 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:39.960 the years go on, teams don't really value broadcasting a 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.360 preseason game, like there's no reason to show your cards 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.040 early in that sense in a preseason game, and they're 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.719 more interested in doing scenario based stuff, whether it be 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.719 you know, like you know, try to win the game 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.920 with five minutes left, like they like being able to 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.240 manipulate the time, manipulate the situation where if you're in 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.280 broadcast and you're like over the weekend, we're playing Richmond, 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.560 like we couldn't just stop the game, be like, hold on, 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:03.960 we're going to do a scenario five minutes, we're going 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.920 to have you up by six points. We're gonna have 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.360 you down by six points. That doesn't exist. And I 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.959 think that's what teams want to train and practice the most, 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.800 is being able to do those situations and being able 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.880 to manipulate the game. And whenever you're doing broadcast, you're 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.080 contractually required to just play a regular game, and I 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.760 don't think teams want to do that. They want to 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.400 be able to do what a preseason game is meant for, 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.960 which is train different situations and train different things that 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.000 come in come up in a game. And I think 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.840 the longer we go, the more it's going to turn 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.160 into broadcast is not going to really be a thing 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:36.600 of it, and it's just going to be, Hey, we're 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.800 going to play two games in the preseason against whatever 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.000 teams we match up in and we're going to have 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.000 full control over what it's going to look like. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.000 It's that whole mentality you've got to give back to 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.560 the game. And I feel like the schedules of the 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.880 players have gotten tighter, the broadcasters have gotten tighter, so 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.360 you lose that ability to just be like we're going 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.160 to go play a game here and there and everywhere, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.040 and yeah, you're. 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.520 Going to do broadcast. You got to set up a 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.760 whole broadcasting experience in a very rural town. Yeah, it's 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.440 not always the easiest thing to do, and it doesn't 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.800 always look best on television. And we only really have 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.440 one main camera. You don't have all the gadgets and 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.880 widgets and everything else that go with I guess a 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.880 game at Icon Park or game of the MCG or 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.120 whatever it may be. It's such training ground or oval. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.680 We need to get to the bottom of that. We 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:19.560 need to get back out in the community. Put a 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.280 choker back on the calendar, getting out there. Let's jump 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.040 into these games because they're not going to review themselves. Man, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:27.720 now put your game. 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.080 Last, full review, actual games. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:31.520 Into the footage. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.600 Exciting. I've been I feel good. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.240 Chumping at the bit to get into it, because Jesus, 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.120 it is hard to do a footy podcast Mace when 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:40.320 there's no bloody footy on. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:44.440 So I actually enjoyed the fan question. Yeah, get into it. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.200 We digress. We'll put your game last, so we'll jump 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:51.040 into Carlton Melbourne and boy Carlton fans, are you nervous 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.080 or what because you had another bit of a stinker, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.280 So just put it out there. But Harry and Charlie 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.000 kick three each, so you know they're on the board, 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.440 which is good Melbourne. You know they're concerns with the 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.400 mid forward connection. That look good. Clayton Oliver playing good foot. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.560 He's been selected for the start of the season, so 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.400 they look out of the whole game. There's some positives 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.200 gone twenty four disposals, two goals, thirty hitouts, Gorna. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.960 That is just that's delicious. If you're looking at super coach, 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.840 you're going, yeah, I'll pick him number one. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.600 He just doesn't slow down. He just doesn't stop. I've 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.960 never seen like a contest a contest and he's always 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:29.000 out marking everyone. 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.240 He's one of the best contested marks you'll ever see. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.440 Like it's actually so impressive. And he gets around the 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.920 ground so well. And I'm like, for guy your size, 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.560 you just have an incredible tank. I I don't know how. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.200 I don't know what he does in the off season 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.600 to prep for it, but it is it's a he's 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:45.680 a physical specimen. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:47.920 Well we know he's off the darts because he can't 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.280 be running around taking marks like that if he's still 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.560 sucking on the lung burst. But yeah, I don't know. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.680 If you're heading into the preseason, you're coming out. If 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.480 your team's like zero and two in the preseason, you're 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.120 right in it up our preseasons nothing, that's nothing. If 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.919 your team's two and oer coming out of the preseason, jeez, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:09.320 wear little cat hot, right, So take it with a 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.800 grain of salt. We head up to Sydney. We played 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:16.240 in Newtown, Sydney v. Brizsy Brizzy got the chocolates. There's 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:20.159 a fair bit that went down in this game. Snakes everywhere, 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.679 small but deadly. We're talking about snake's bread and not 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.439 something else. Now, I don't know if you could just 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.200 look at one. You've been in Australia, you should be 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.320 able to look at it and go, yeah, that's a 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.080 red belly, brown snake. You just got to be able 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:32.480 to was. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.159 It red and yellow? Killer fellow? You yellow on black? 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.320 Don't worry jack or something like that. They all do 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.560 not take that is actual factual information. People. I don't 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.200 want to be playing for some getting bitten by poisonous 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:44.800 snake and dye. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.040 Oh yeah, there's a snake there. I don't worry. Make 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.200 said something about brown Jacks something. 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.000 Yellow and black. Didn't kill Jack. I know who he is, 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.399 but somehow he doesn't get affected by poison. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.679 I think if you just go all snakes are bad. Yea, 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.000 they agree, don't mess with them. They won't mess with you. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.600