1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Hello, Katie Wolf and three sixty online at Mix one 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: O four nine dot com. We learned yesterday that the 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Primary Health Network has announced that near Me National, 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: in partnership with Larakia Nation, are going to be the 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: lead provider on the Darwin Adult Mental Health Center. Now 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: joining us on the line from the Northern Territory Primary 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: Health Network CEO Jill Year's leg Good morning to you, Jill. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, how are you today? 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Very well? 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Jill? 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Firstly, what is near Me National? 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: Okay? Sorry? So me My are a they are a 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: mental health service provider that have been in operations since 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 2: about nineteen ninety eight. They're established originally in Melbourne at 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: the request of care as and family members for people 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: access to mental health services. But since that time they've 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: expanded across most of the states and territories of Australia. 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: Okay, And so they are going to be they're going 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: to be working in partnership with Larakia Nation and be 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the lead provider at the Darwin Adult Mental Health Center. 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: Can you talk us through and sort of tell us 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the center. 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So look, the center it's one of eight. So 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: the government made a commitment. The Commonwealth government made a 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: commitment in two thy nineteen that they were going to 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: roll out these mental health sites across Australia and there 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: are eight launch sites, each in a different state and territory. 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: So the Northern Territory has won and that's the Darwin 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: and the idea is that they are their new models, 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: their new models of one stop service access for adults 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: who are experiencing difficulty with mental health issues. It's really 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: building on the models the success that some of the 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: Headspace centers have had. So we've got access to younger 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: people and their families, but there was a real gap 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: it was felt for older adults. 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is such an important service for us to 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: be able to access and to be provided. How will 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: people will anybody be able to go there or what 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: will the process be in terms of being able to 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: go to that center? 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the intended aain well actually the stated aim. 42 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: So the Department of Health Commonwealth has been very clear 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: about the expectations of these centers. So they are to 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: be operating seven days a week. They are to be 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: operating at an hour. So initially the one here in 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: jim we will operate between eleven am and eleven pm. 47 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: And yes, people can turn up to see someone and 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: talk to someone and from that initial contact a discussion 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: will be held about what's the best pathway to refer 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: that person onto. 51 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Jill, where is this center going to be based exactly? 52 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: Well, we're not sure yet. So we're going to be 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: perhaps going to be part of the co designed process 54 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: and working with the community about where's the best site. 55 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it needs to be in the community, so 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: it won't be based on the hospital site, but it 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: needs to be near enough the hospital should Indeed, we 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: need to be working with our partners in the anti 59 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: health department regarding transfers. But it also needs to be 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: accessible for people with public transports. Many of our population 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: do not have access to private transport and people need 62 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: to be able to access it as they go about 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: their daily business and not feel triumatized by doing so. 64 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Jill, how soon are we anticipating that it's going to 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: be operational. 66 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: We are hoping and certainly we are working with the 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: providers that we will be operational by October to December 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: this calendar year. Now, I'm sure it won't be completely 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: up and running by them, but we are at least 70 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: hoping to have the initial semblance of a service commissioned 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: and active by that time. 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: Now, can you tell us a little bit more about 73 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: I suppose some of those services that you anticipate it 74 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: will be able to provide as well, you know, because 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: I know that there will be plenty of people out 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: there listening this morning who are wondering if it's going 77 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: to help them. 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: Look, the intention is it's about how do we work 79 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: with the existing service providers in our communities, and we 80 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: have lots of those already and increase and develop and 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: platform off what they already provide. One of the biggest 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: conversations we have with families and their carers and people 83 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: trying to access services is they don't know where to go. 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: So we actually have a whole suite of services already 85 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: available in the community, but not enough. Obviously, these services 86 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: will be able to do clinical triage, so they'll be 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: able to identify if a person has sorts of self harm, 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: if a person needs to see a GP, if a 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: person needs to see a psychologist, or if indeed a 90 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: person needs to support from another person who's experienced of 91 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: mental health issues. A lift experience workers as we call them, 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: in the sector, and also thinking of an Aboriginal autocia 93 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: armed a community and our cold community. How do we 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: link people with appropriately culturally appropriate people to help support 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: them through a journey of discussion around their experiences and 96 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: what they need. Oftentimes, I think people's experience and interactions 97 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: with mental health services is complicated by their inability to 98 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: fully explain and explore what's going on for them. 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: Jill, are we finding here in the Northern Territory that 100 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: we have an increase in the number of people who 101 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: require those mental health services? 102 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: Certainly the feedb we've had from our partners in the 103 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: community and we've had from our partners in the Northern 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: Territory government is that the access for services has increases 105 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: and the impacts of COVID. I mean, whilst in the 106 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: Northern Territory they've not been the same as other areas, 107 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 2: there are certainly impacts in terms of job opportunities and employment, 108 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: and I think for a lot of the population it's 109 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: particularly complex and look, I would say there has been 110 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: an increase in access. I also think that's that people's 111 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: willingness to begin to talk about needing support. So it's 112 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: about how do we then we if we're seeing that 113 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: increased requirement for access, you know, how do we respond 114 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: to that in a way that's respectful and appropriate. 115 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, And I do think that, you know, I 116 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: hope that we are breaking down some of the stigma 117 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: which is attached to mental health issues. You know, I 118 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: think that realistically, we've got to look at this in 119 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: the same way that we look at any other health issue. 120 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. You know, if we look at the the 121 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: if we look at the what we would call the 122 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: burden of disease. I don't like that term, but if 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: we look at the from the you know, the World's 124 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: Health organization and most first world countries, they're burden of disease, 125 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: mental health is one of the top at least five 126 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: or ten. And yet we don't We've still got this 127 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: narrative going on in our community that somehow we don't 128 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: talk about it in our community. In DA when we 129 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: have a very diverse community. We have people from the 130 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: Aboriginal and Toach owned community coal communities. We have x 131 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: ADF members and their families. We have people who might 132 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: be dislocated from a family because of work reasons, and 133 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: all of those people are vulnerable at risk. The other 134 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: thing we have as well in the Northern Territory is 135 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: that our population is actually a very young population, and 136 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: you know, that transition between youth and adulthood, which really 137 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: extends to in the mid thirties, if we think about 138 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: life transitions now is a really tricky, complex space for 139 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: people's experience, and I think that you know, people are 140 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: beginning to reach out and access services in a much 141 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: more appropriate way, Jill, if you. 142 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: Know, what can we do to help a friend or 143 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: a family member or ourselves. You know, anybody that's listening 144 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: this morning that may be thinking, look, this center sounds great, 145 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: but it's still a while off opening, and they're just 146 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: wondering what they can do, or maybe we've got a 147 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: family member who they would like to try and help. 148 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: What can we do in those initial stages. 149 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: The first instance obviously always go to your primary health provider, 150 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: to your GP. If people have access to a GP 151 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: and are willing to go and talk to their GP, 152 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: that would be the most sensible strategy. If people don't 153 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 2: want to do that, and there are people who don't, 154 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: you know, the Beyond Blue national website and the Lifeline 155 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: national website. There's also our local services. We also have 156 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: our headspace services here in Gawen. We also have some 157 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: other services which advertise regularly on TV. There's Team Health 158 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: who are funded by the Northern Territory government and we 159 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: are at the NTPH and we also have a mental 160 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: health website which is the www dot mental Health nt 161 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: dot com dot au and that lists all of our 162 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: services in the Northern Territory. 163 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Well, Jill years Lee, the Northern Territory Primary Health Network CEO, 164 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: we really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks so very 165 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: much for having a chat with us. 166 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: No, thank you, and I'm glad to see you such 167 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: an active interest in this space. Thanks Katie, thank you. 168 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, I think that this is a 169 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: great announcement. Once this facility is up and running, it's 170 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: going to be incredibly helpful, I reckon for a number 171 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: of Territorians who obviously are suffering from mental health issues. 172 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: And as I said then in that discussion with Jill, 173 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: I do think that if there is anything that we 174 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: can do to sort of really try to break down 175 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: those stigmas that can be sometimes associated with mental health issues, 176 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: it's so incredibly important that we do so