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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
Speaker 2: thank you for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with
Speaker 2: superfan Eden, the twelve eliminated contestant from this year's Astrained Survivor,
Speaker 2: which is now on Network ten, I will be talking
Speaker 2: about Eden's time in Samoa and of course what he
Speaker 2: thinks now that the smoke has well and truly been
Speaker 2: snuffed out on his torch. Astraian Survivor Titans Versus Rebels
Speaker 2: is a showdown that pits the winners against the underdogs
Speaker 2: and the big wigs against the battlers, with each player
Speaker 2: competing for a grand prize of half a million dollars.
Speaker 2: Eden is a cinema manager from Melbourne, living out his
Speaker 2: best Survivor fantasy life. Eden's started the game on a
Speaker 2: high note, enabling his strategic prowess by orchestrating Frank his blindside.
Speaker 2: Despite having a tendency for paranoia, he was able to
Speaker 2: keep his angst at bay with the help of his allies.
Speaker 2: After the explosive breakup of the Titans merge, Eden rallied
Speaker 2: the Titans to reunite against the Rebels. Although he was
Speaker 2: successful in his endeavor, the Rebels caught onto the Titan's
Speaker 2: duplicity and piled their votes onto him, forcing a tie.
Speaker 2: Fans may say that Jaden is responsible for Eden's exit,
Speaker 2: who flipped on the revote to exchange revenge against him
Speaker 2: for blindsiding his best mate winner in the previous round.
Speaker 2: Eden will unpack his movie quotes and survivor references and
Speaker 2: provide us with some deleted gold that he dropped during
Speaker 2: his confessionals. We will discuss the added pressure of being
Speaker 2: a super fan and if it actually helped his game
Speaker 2: or added just too much pressure. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of conversation about Eden covering his mouth and why he
Speaker 2: was often seen drinking water from a water bottle, which
Speaker 2: Eden will give us a very simple explanation for. Plus,
Speaker 2: we will get some insights into why winning a car
Speaker 2: could be a curse and what exactly he thinks is
Speaker 2: going to happen with Mark's invisible hand. There's actually so
Speaker 2: much to unpack with Eden, and he's really fun to
Speaker 2: talk to, of course, so sit back and relax as
Speaker 2: we dive just that little bit deeper into the world
Speaker 2: of Australian survivor.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be talking to you.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, so, how are you and
Speaker 2: did you get any sleep?
Speaker 3: I did not get any sleep. I was tossing and
Speaker 3: turning all night. And that would be because my seventeen
Speaker 3: month old baby does not sleep at the moment.
Speaker 4: And on the.
Speaker 3: Island I was exactly the same. I wouldn't sleep very
Speaker 3: much on the island. I would just be running numbers votes,
Speaker 3: what we could do, what's the backup plan, to the
Speaker 3: backup plan. I would just sit up at night just
Speaker 3: going okay, well, if they did this and they use
Speaker 3: an idol, then we need three people here to do this.
Speaker 4: That was my life on the island.
Speaker 3: And then I've come back and now I've got a
Speaker 3: baby keeping me up as well, so I need to
Speaker 3: get some sleep.
Speaker 4: At some point.
Speaker 1: You gave this show.
Speaker 2: You're all like, if anyone that was a participant this
Speaker 2: year or castaway, whatever we want to call that, you
Speaker 2: could see it in you that you were giving this
Speaker 2: here all. And from the bottom of my heart, I
Speaker 2: want to say I was entertained answer just to answer
Speaker 2: your question.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much better. Yeah, no, look obviously,
Speaker 3: it's been a dream of mine. I've been watching this
Speaker 3: show for twenty three years, back from day one. It's
Speaker 3: been an absolute dream to play. I auditioned for the
Speaker 3: last eight years, didn't stop auditioning since it came back
Speaker 3: to Australian television. It was always something that I felt
Speaker 3: in my head. I'm like, I'm going to get on
Speaker 3: this show. I'm like it's going to happen at some point.
Speaker 3: The first time twenty sixteen, I got all the way
Speaker 3: to the end of the auditions and just missed out.
Speaker 3: Then I didn't hear from them again. And then this
Speaker 3: rolled around and I was like everything just lined up
Speaker 3: and I made it on and like literally it was
Speaker 3: a dream come true. Every day out there, I had
Speaker 3: the biggest smile.
Speaker 4: On my face. I was just like, oh, this is
Speaker 4: like this and this challenge is from here. This is
Speaker 4: really cool.
Speaker 3: And I remember JLP actually said to me on one
Speaker 3: of the very first mat chats, He's like, this guy,
Speaker 3: this talk I hear you have not stopped smiling the
Speaker 3: entire time you've been out here. You must be one
Speaker 3: of the biggest fans we've ever had. On I was like,
Speaker 3: thank you for blowing up my bigger so.
Speaker 2: I could see that I could feel myself living vicariously
Speaker 2: through your Survivor journey because of that, like, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure that there's so many diehard Survivor fans that would
Speaker 2: feel exactly the same way. I've been following you as
Speaker 2: well on your social media, so I just felt like
Speaker 2: I need to start by saying that. Coincidentally, and this
Speaker 2: is how I know we're best friends. Are Passic Park
Speaker 2: movie order is exactly the same.
Speaker 4: Right we were in seeking my friend. I have the
Speaker 4: same T shirt.
Speaker 2: It's over there if I if I paused the go
Speaker 2: and get it, it wouldn't work for a podcast, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I love What were some of the movie quotes that
Speaker 2: you dropped through your confessionals that we didn't get a
Speaker 2: chance to see because I'd heard a lot while the
Speaker 2: filming was going down that you were quite the master
Speaker 2: at your confessionals, and so I was expecting that you
Speaker 2: dropped a lot.
Speaker 1: So maybe you can just give me your top one hundred.
Speaker 4: No, I was.
Speaker 3: I was loving my my movie references out there. I
Speaker 3: think every single one of my voting professionals I had, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I terminated for Frankie, I had New Girl.
Speaker 4: You know the TV show New Girl. It's Jesses vote
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 3: I had a great top gun one for Nathan about
Speaker 3: how this time Maverick isn't going to survive, but Goose
Speaker 3: is going.
Speaker 4: To live with my mistache. I wanted to.
Speaker 2: I just want like a like a little montage of
Speaker 2: a quotes. But you know what also really impressed the
Speaker 2: fans was your little Easter eggs as well. Throughout the show.
Speaker 2: There were things that got dropped in there. There was
Speaker 2: so much fun and so much depth into your time
Speaker 2: in the show that I felt like, You've done yourself
Speaker 2: so proud.
Speaker 4: Honestly, that's just for I.
Speaker 3: Like eighty percent of things that I say are in quotes,
Speaker 3: and when my friends always do it all the time,
Speaker 3: and that's like I love that. I love pop culture
Speaker 3: and to be out there and to that's just literally me.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, I will reference Survivor with my friends. So yeah,
Speaker 3: of course I'm going to say, look, I've made Merge
Speaker 3: un datable, or I'm bamboozled when I get voted out,
Speaker 3: or am I going to ruffle some feathers. These are
Speaker 3: just things that I just talk about normally, and so
Speaker 3: it was really fun. To incorporate that sort of stuff
Speaker 3: into my time out there, and I'm so glad. The
Speaker 3: feedback from the fans were like, Hey, is that a
Speaker 3: reference to this? And Hey, did you just reference Arrested
Speaker 3: Development when you said I've made a huge mistake. I'm like,
Speaker 3: of course I did.
Speaker 1: Of course you did.
Speaker 2: I love following it on social media as well, because
Speaker 2: all of these different communities that people could interact with
Speaker 2: this show. Everyone was enjoying the fact that you were
Speaker 2: teasing us with little puzzle see you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: that's what people want these days.
Speaker 4: It's the game within a game.
Speaker 2: What do you think about the way in which we
Speaker 2: got to see your time in Samoa? Why do you
Speaker 2: think some of the other storylines managed to rise to
Speaker 2: the top. Do you think it had a lot to
Speaker 2: do with who was up for elimination?
Speaker 3: Look, I may have done too good a job of
Speaker 3: managing my threat level. Basically I was dropping a lot
Speaker 3: of seeds and doing a lot of things in the
Speaker 3: background to sort of influence votes and making sure things
Speaker 3: went the way that I wanted them to go, Like,
Speaker 3: for instance, the v vote, which is a very pivotal
Speaker 3: vote in the name.
Speaker 4: Of the game.
Speaker 3: That was very much me having an understanding of timing
Speaker 3: and planting seeds in Survivor, so I knew logically in
Speaker 3: that position, you don't turn on your lights at that point.
Speaker 3: You establish power, you vote off one of the rebels,
Speaker 3: and you move forward as a Titan group, and then
Speaker 3: the next vote you probably turn on each other. I
Speaker 3: knew Mark was a superlogical player, that's the logical thing
Speaker 3: to do, So I knew at that point got to
Speaker 3: strike early before they think that it's happening. And all
Speaker 3: I had to do was just mention it to Kittie, like, hey,
Speaker 3: do you think we shoul do something now, like we
Speaker 3: could maybe mix things up a bit. Then Kitty then
Speaker 3: goes sells it to Caroline. Caroline then comes back to
Speaker 3: me and goes, this is what we're doing. This is
Speaker 3: this is the plan, and they ran with it and
Speaker 3: they got everyone else involved. They built it up and
Speaker 3: at the end of the day it worked perfectly. I
Speaker 3: chopped Mark's legs out from under him, so he was
Speaker 3: more sort of reliant on me in the game because
Speaker 3: me and Mark did have a really good relationship. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, no one was talking about revenge
Speaker 3: against Eden. It was all revenge against Caroline and Kitty,
Speaker 3: and that's sort of what I wanted. So a lot
Speaker 3: of the game I was managing my threat level in
Speaker 3: a way that maybe didn't translate as well, but it
Speaker 3: kept me in a really good position in the game itself.
Speaker 3: I also felt that You've got some big characters and
Speaker 3: some big storylines with Mark and Caroline and Kirby and Ferris,
Speaker 3: and I was doing a lot out there strategy wise
Speaker 3: that didn't sort of make its way through. Some of
Speaker 3: the relationships I had sort of fell away, Like me
Speaker 3: and Charles were super tight, super tight the Big Daddy alliance.
Speaker 3: We both knew dads, and so when Charles left, that
Speaker 3: sort of impacted me, and so that sort of falls away.
Speaker 3: But honestly, for a pre jury boot, which I am now,
Speaker 3: I'm going to claim the best player to not make
Speaker 3: jury their merch merch to basically get to where I
Speaker 3: got to and still be entertaining and still have those
Speaker 3: moments like a lot of people that go out pre
Speaker 3: merge maybe don't have those moments and don't have their things.
Speaker 3: So I'm super happy that I got to share my
Speaker 3: love of the game, and there are a lot of
Speaker 3: key points in the show, Like I think I was
Speaker 3: sort of narrating us through the swap, through the merge,
Speaker 3: to the very first vote, to the start of the thing,
Speaker 3: So I think I was that voice sort of get
Speaker 3: us through those points and then not necessarily some of
Speaker 3: the big wars going on, and I was fine not
Speaker 3: being in the war. But ultimately maybe if I had
Speaker 3: lasted longer in the game that would changed a bit.
Speaker 4: But I am.
Speaker 3: I'm super happy that that people saw my love of
Speaker 3: the game out there and it was really great. A
Speaker 3: lot of feedback that I did get was you know,
Speaker 3: it's so great like out there on the island, and
Speaker 3: when I got back home, they're like, you know, it's
Speaker 3: so great about watching you in We're literally watching someone
Speaker 3: live out their dream on live television, and.
Speaker 2: It does beg the question is it easier or harder
Speaker 2: to be a super fan when it comes to how
Speaker 2: far you can get in the game, Because I could
Speaker 2: imagine being as big a super fan as you are,
Speaker 2: there is the possibility of getting inside your head or
Speaker 2: the pressure of the realities might become quite hard.
Speaker 3: I completely agree. I think there's a couple of things.
Speaker 3: One is you can get really worried about.
Speaker 4: Going home early. This is the dream of yours.
Speaker 3: You've been wanting to get on the show for so long,
Speaker 3: and to go out first or seconds and only be
Speaker 3: out there for a couple of days is like, I
Speaker 3: just don't want that to happen. I don't want that happened.
Speaker 3: And you can almost manifest it. You can be worried
Speaker 3: about it so much that it starts to come through.
Speaker 3: But it's all about sort of managing those expectations. Then
Speaker 3: what happens is people know you're a big fan of
Speaker 3: the game, and so you become sort of that oracle
Speaker 3: of hey En, what usually happens? Now, Hey, Ian, have
Speaker 3: they done this challenge before? Hey Eiden, when did this happen?
Speaker 3: I'm like, did it it? This happened on this episode
Speaker 3: and this time. They've done this three times. They haven't
Speaker 3: picked rocks before, but they've done this verreer And that's
Speaker 3: great up until a point when people go, you know what,
Speaker 3: Eden knows a lot about this game. He's a threat.
Speaker 3: We've got to get rid of him at some point.
Speaker 3: And so then it sort of flips to become really dangerous.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, because I've seen so many
Speaker 3: episodes because I've been aware of the moves in the past.
Speaker 3: You can pick things up and Okay, so in this situation,
Speaker 3: the best way forward is to do this, and logically,
Speaker 3: in this situation, you would do this. And so I
Speaker 3: felt myself drawing on that knowledge a lot, which was great,
Speaker 3: but a lot of people out there knew I was
Speaker 3: really switched off.
Speaker 2: It made me wonder whether or not you thought the
Speaker 2: same thing as me. But in the history of these shows,
Speaker 2: the person who gets the car doesn't win the show.
Speaker 4: The car curse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when I saw Mark win that, I was like,
Speaker 2: my bitch, you know. Yeah, it's so bizarre because this
Speaker 2: anomaly has happened through so many shows. Like it's not
Speaker 2: just Survivor or Big Brother or The Block or anything,
Speaker 2: it's all of them, all of them. If there's a
Speaker 2: car on the table, if you get that car, drive
Speaker 2: home now, because you're not getting the main prize.
Speaker 3: The car curse is real, and I think subconsciously it
Speaker 3: does work into people's understanding of who you are in
Speaker 3: the game. They go, well, he's won a car. He's
Speaker 3: already won the car, so like, let's just get rid
Speaker 3: of him. Let's just get the same and like even
Speaker 3: winning the They're Set for Life sixty k, like that
Speaker 3: starts to get into people's heads. Oh well, she's just
Speaker 3: one sixty k, so if we vote her out now,
Speaker 3: it's not so bad sort of thing. So that does
Speaker 3: play into people's psychological profiles of people.
Speaker 2: I think it does. Where did you find that hideous tracksuit?
Speaker 2: What the hell it's but I mean it's iconic now, right,
Speaker 2: it's iconic, and you know.
Speaker 1: I can see it in the background to the background.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's hideous for people listening because this is
Speaker 2: a podcast, the hideous track seit is in the background.
Speaker 2: So I kind of want to ask you about the
Speaker 2: thought process of what you chose to wear on in Samoa,
Speaker 2: Like how do they go?
Speaker 3: Basically, any big fan knows that people have these iconic
Speaker 3: items of clothing, whether it's like Russell's hat or yeah,
Speaker 3: or a Boston Rob's Boston cap or Dave sarong from Australians,
Speaker 3: but like things like that really stand out. So I
Speaker 3: definitely wanted to go out there and I wasn't going
Speaker 3: to be wearing something suitable.
Speaker 4: No, I was going to be wearing something.
Speaker 3: That popped that showed that I was fun that I'd like,
Speaker 3: I was colorful, I had an up and about personality,
Speaker 3: and that's what I wanted to I wanted to show
Speaker 3: my pop culture ness. I wanted to like do all
Speaker 3: that at the end of the day, Like I had
Speaker 3: jeans out there for the first seven days before I
Speaker 3: got my bathers, which was wild. But that was my look,
Speaker 3: this nerdy pop cultue sort of guy with his Hawaiian
Speaker 3: shirt and his fun dinosaur hoodie and that hoodie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that hoodie's getting to work out. It's seemed better days now.
Speaker 3: But where did you get it? What is that?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: It's like, it's just it's just online. I bought it.
Speaker 3: I bought it a while ago, a couple of years
Speaker 3: ago actually, And every time I've worn it, it's from
Speaker 3: this company called Freshwoods, And every time I've worn it,
Speaker 3: people be like, that is the greatest jumper of all time.
Speaker 4: I love that jumper.
Speaker 2: Did you feel and I guess this is the question
Speaker 2: that's going to haunt you for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: It did seem like your scramble was a little too hectic,
Speaker 2: it was a little too obvious. Do you think when
Speaker 2: you're in your hindsight, in your Sunday Morning quarterbacking of
Speaker 2: your time on the show. Do you think that was
Speaker 2: an edit like that's how we just saw it, or
Speaker 2: do you think that you probably went a little too hard.
Speaker 3: No, actually, I think the play was sound, But what
Speaker 3: there was a couple of things that sort of let
Speaker 3: us down that point.
Speaker 4: Look, I love Kitty. Kitty was my right or die
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 3: Kitty was so like I knew she was always going
Speaker 3: to be honest with me, and I was like, I
Speaker 3: love that. I can trust that Kitty's going to tell
Speaker 3: me the truth. But the flip side of that is
Speaker 3: then when you ask her to lie about stuff, she struggles,
Speaker 3: and it was a big hurdle for her to just
Speaker 3: flat out lighter people and be like yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: this is all fun. This is all fun. Same with Carrot.
Speaker 3: Those guys, they took a lot of convincing to get
Speaker 3: on board. If we had just gone, this is a plan,
Speaker 3: it's going to reform us, we're going to have the power,
Speaker 3: we're going to have the majority we can before it
Speaker 3: in this game. And if they had just gone yep, cool,
Speaker 3: we're doing it, and then we'd all just separated, it
Speaker 3: actually would have worked fine. But we had to sort
Speaker 3: of keep going back to the girls and being like, hey,
Speaker 3: are you fine with this? Like are we on board?
Speaker 3: And there was a little bit of work to do.
Speaker 3: I just feel like, and you can see Ferris from
Speaker 3: the episode, he went and interrogated both of them to
Speaker 3: really sort of drill down on them, and they did.
Speaker 3: They did a really good job, but there was just
Speaker 3: enough there that just sent up enough of a little
Speaker 3: warning sign. So ultimately, look, it didn't pan out. Logically.
Speaker 4: Interestingly, though, Ben.
Speaker 3: It probably should have worked because in that situation, in
Speaker 3: a six on six vote, you want to put your
Speaker 3: votes onto someone that people will flip. So you actually
Speaker 3: don't want to put votes on me in that point,
Speaker 3: because I had a lot of support from the group,
Speaker 3: I had a lot of relationships. You actually want to
Speaker 3: put it on Carrow or you want to put it
Speaker 3: on Valeria, because those guys are not going to rocks
Speaker 3: for each other any time. So that's the play that
Speaker 3: you should actually do, because then we would have flipped
Speaker 3: on each other and it would have got one of
Speaker 3: them out. So to put it on me was super risky.
Speaker 3: I think Ferris had a good read, but I think
Speaker 3: logically and from a game perspective, it was super risky
Speaker 3: and it was probably the wrong person to put the
Speaker 3: votes on. I'm not sure whether those guys actually knew
Speaker 3: that they were going to go to Rocks for Like.
Speaker 3: I didn't think Kirby and Ree were willing to go
Speaker 3: to Rocks for Ray. They didn't have a relationship with Ray.
Speaker 3: Kirby had spent twelve episodes trying to get rid of
Speaker 3: him this entire time, so I was like, look, if
Speaker 3: worst comes to worst, they're not going to go to
Speaker 3: Rocks for Ray.
Speaker 4: I think it all happened so quickly and hectically.
Speaker 3: I don't think people were really thinking about it at
Speaker 3: that level of like, hey, I'm going to go to
Speaker 3: Rocks for this person. The only person and ironically the
Speaker 3: person that really wasn't thinking about was jaded.
Speaker 4: He just was Oh, cool, I'll just do this. Yeah
Speaker 4: I can do it.
Speaker 3: Because the first vote he was on board, he was
Speaker 3: voting with us. It's not like there was some big
Speaker 3: conspiracy that this was, Oh, we're going to I'm going
Speaker 3: to manipulate everything and I'm going to get my revenge.
Speaker 3: It was just literally, cool, I can change my vote now,
Speaker 3: Oh I'll just change my vote cool, have fun, and
Speaker 3: it robbed us.
Speaker 4: It robbed us of going to rocks first time.
Speaker 3: Straths of over history would have gone to Rocks and
Speaker 3: it would have been probably one of the craziest tribal
Speaker 3: councils of all time.
Speaker 4: I reckon I think.
Speaker 1: It would have been.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was interesting you said a few things there.
Speaker 2: I mean people noticed online. I didn't notice this as much,
Speaker 2: but people noticed that. They were saying that you were
Speaker 2: covering your mouth when you felt anxious or when you
Speaker 2: were lying. Did you I guess I'm not really interested
Speaker 2: as to whether or not that's true and whether or
Speaker 2: not the diehard fans picked up on that, But I
Speaker 2: guess I'm more interested about what you worked out about
Speaker 2: yourself and who you are when you watched yourself back.
Speaker 1: Did you notice some weird things like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, A lot of that stuff is everyone because the
Speaker 3: scramble happens. Everyone is around, everyone is seeing who's talking
Speaker 3: to everyone, so everyone knows what's going on. So you
Speaker 3: do sort of have to people read lips, people see
Speaker 3: like vote for this person. So a lot of the
Speaker 3: time you actually have to do stuff like that. You
Speaker 3: see in tribal council people are covering each other's mouths
Speaker 3: when they talk. Because of stuff like that, everyone is
Speaker 3: super aware. We've got a great bunch of players. All
Speaker 3: it takes is for someone to see someone say ray
Speaker 3: and then you go, oh, they're voting for Raye. So
Speaker 3: things like you literally need to think about things like this,
Speaker 3: you need to be like and so my one was, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to be like putting my drink bottle
Speaker 3: up to my mouth all the time and drinking and
Speaker 3: doing things like that. But for me, I'm able to
Speaker 3: have chats to people. I think my tells when we're
Speaker 3: sort of fluctuated. Sometimes I think people were like, oh,
Speaker 3: Eidan's really nervous. But then I got I think I
Speaker 3: got more control of that. The further in the game.
Speaker 2: People kept saying that right about the water bottle, Like
Speaker 2: I kept reading the comments every episode. They're like, oh,
Speaker 2: Eidan loves to drink water.
Speaker 3: Even keeping hydrated. He's really hydrated out there.
Speaker 2: But that's the rational. That's like you've just explained it
Speaker 2: to them, you know what I mean. Like, people can
Speaker 2: now listen to my podcast and they can find that out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly exactly. It's an educational podcast after all, this
Speaker 4: one bet.
Speaker 2: It's so funny because people who apply and get on
Speaker 2: the show often message me or while they're through the
Speaker 2: application process, I get people writing to me saying, I'm
Speaker 2: applying for the show. I listened to the podcast, I'm
Speaker 2: taking notes. So we have to always bear that in
Speaker 2: mind that you know, when you're releasing a podcast like
Speaker 2: this and doing a deep dive on Survivor, that there's
Speaker 2: going to be those people in future seasons that are
Speaker 2: going to mind this stuff.
Speaker 3: You know one percent, and as you should. I exactly
Speaker 3: what I did. I've for twenty three years. I would
Speaker 3: just consume all Survivor content. I even came up I've
Speaker 3: got my nine Pillars of Survivor Excellence that you can
Speaker 3: use to win the game that I went through before
Speaker 3: I went out there, and I'm like, this is what
Speaker 3: I'm going to do.
Speaker 4: This is how I'm going to win the game. And
Speaker 4: so I was.
Speaker 3: I was in the zone. And what's interesting is I
Speaker 3: was actually an alternate. So I only got on at
Speaker 3: the very last I got on with two days before
Speaker 3: we left. I was told on Friday night, and I
Speaker 3: was like, when do I go? And I go Monday morning.
Speaker 2: But you've got like a good job, like you're a
Speaker 2: cinema manager, like an area manager.
Speaker 1: Yes, but what did you do?
Speaker 2: Did you ring them and say, hey, look I can't
Speaker 2: come to work for and explainable amount of time time.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And I was just like, this is an
Speaker 3: opportunity to come up that I have to do. And
Speaker 3: I've worked at that company for twenty one years, so
Speaker 3: i had a lot of long service leave left up
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I am cashing in.
Speaker 2: That's an awkward conversation to have with your boss or
Speaker 2: the powers that be on a Friday.
Speaker 3: It was and look, my boss and my work are
Speaker 3: so so amazing and so great, and they were like, yeah, cool,
Speaker 3: this is this is something that's happening, Like go for
Speaker 3: it all the best. The real hard thing was leaving
Speaker 3: why my wife Rachel and Phoenix at home. That was
Speaker 3: I really and like she's the one that made the sacrifice,
Speaker 3: like she looked after Phoenix that whole time. I actually
Speaker 3: missed Phoenix's first birthday because I was.
Speaker 4: Out on the island.
Speaker 3: Yeah I know, I know, but Rach was just like
Speaker 3: she knew it was a dream come true for me.
Speaker 3: She's like, you have to do it, and I'm so
Speaker 3: thankful for her for have.
Speaker 2: You been a nightmare since you've gotten back? Like, because
Speaker 2: you know when you're go and do these shows, they
Speaker 2: can be really stressful. Have you been a nightmare? Have
Speaker 2: you driven her insane? It's been it's been really tough.
Speaker 3: I think she honestly was probably waiting until I got
Speaker 3: voted out to now like, okay, that's done. Now let's
Speaker 3: get back to reality. Let's get back to tell her that's.
Speaker 4: Not going to happen.
Speaker 2: There's multiple deaths that you die with reality television, win
Speaker 2: or lose, And yes, there's when is it going to
Speaker 2: be on television? And then it's like when is my elimination?
Speaker 2: And then oh now I've got to get my life
Speaker 2: back together. In some ways, your life doesn't get to
Speaker 2: go back together. But the advice I have for you
Speaker 2: is just find the people that want to talk to
Speaker 2: you about this untilr blue in the face and I'll
Speaker 2: put my hand up.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I could talk about Survivor all day. So it's
Speaker 3: a matchmde in heaven. Then yeah, same, same. What do
Speaker 3: you think is going to happen with this middle age
Speaker 3: mafia moving forward? Like, have you got any ideas about
Speaker 3: what's going to happen with that. I mean the silent
Speaker 3: hands looking very silent, all the invisible visible. Yes, it's
Speaker 3: very invisible at the moment. It's almost kind even see
Speaker 3: it anymore. But me and Mark, we literally had that
Speaker 3: agreement that we were never going to vote for each other.
Speaker 3: That we were all like, we'd go take shots at
Speaker 3: each other's alliance alliances, but we were never going to
Speaker 3: go for each other. I think moving forward in the game,
Speaker 3: I think Mark's actually in a pretty good spot. I
Speaker 3: think Mark, I think Ferris likes Mark. I think he's
Speaker 3: not really he's managed to escape by enough. I think
Speaker 3: the threat levels are going to move around. Remember there's
Speaker 3: still idols in play at the moment. That could be
Speaker 3: another big target. You've got Alex and Ferris that on idols.
Speaker 3: It doesn't take very long to people go like, hey,
Speaker 3: we need to flush these idols. So I think there's
Speaker 3: still there's still some options there for the Middle Age
Speaker 3: Mafia to move forward. There's a lot enough floaters in
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 4: It's interesting.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of peers, Ree, Rie and Kirby, Ferris,
Speaker 3: Earleen and Ray. Alex is sort of a floater, Mark
Speaker 3: and Valeria, Kitty in Caroline. It's very interesting. You have
Speaker 3: so many movable groups like that, so there's so many
Speaker 3: different machinations that you can have. So it's going to
Speaker 3: be a really interesting next couple of episodes.
Speaker 2: But you've read the super fans and you know, like
Speaker 2: even talking Tribal, you know, there's just so many people
Speaker 2: talking about how it's anyone's game at this point because
Speaker 2: it's really hard to read into but not seeing things
Speaker 2: being repeated, so it's really hard to pick you know,
Speaker 2: what is actually happening and who is going to align
Speaker 2: with who, and you know, like some seasons you'll say
Speaker 2: it's a it's a Kirby versus Fairest type scenario, but
Speaker 2: then that's kind of come and it's gone, and then
Speaker 2: are they going to be together?
Speaker 3: Like yeah's I think the Cold War with those two
Speaker 3: got to a point and I felt it out there.
Speaker 3: I felt the fact that they weren't going for each
Speaker 3: other straight away sort of raised my alarm bells about
Speaker 3: Rebel Strong. I did feel that those guys were going, Okay,
Speaker 3: we need to keep each other in the game. We
Speaker 3: need to keep some of these rebels in because we
Speaker 3: don't want the Titans to take over and I did
Speaker 3: feel that, and that was one of the reasons why
Speaker 3: I did start building a different alliance with the Old Titans,
Speaker 3: because I felt those guys, the fact that they weren't
Speaker 3: immediately going, guys, let's get Ferris out.
Speaker 4: They weren't trying to take control and do that.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, warning, warning, and ultimately yeah, it's
Speaker 3: sort of what happened.
Speaker 2: That barbecue was a missmash of you know, players who
Speaker 2: had so many problems.
Speaker 1: It was like the.
Speaker 2: Worst family dinner dynamic. If you've ever been to a
Speaker 2: Christmas lunch where there's been tension in a family dynamic,
Speaker 2: that's what that looked like. And you know, Mark saying
Speaker 2: he had a good time while he was there, it's
Speaker 2: like me saying that I don't know, I enjoy clipping
Speaker 2: my toes like I just I did.
Speaker 3: There was a great confessional that I did that didn't
Speaker 3: make it, but I literally compared that us to a
Speaker 3: dysfunctional family.
Speaker 4: It was that Mark was like the dad that was
Speaker 4: never home.
Speaker 3: He was like the distant dad, the mom that Caroline
Speaker 3: that works all the time at home for everyone, never
Speaker 3: sees her partner. And then you've got like Jaden who's
Speaker 3: like the bench pressing uncle. You've got a couple of
Speaker 3: us kids out there that are just like, like, why.
Speaker 4: Can't like mum and dad get along? So it was fun. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was really so good.
Speaker 2: There are some archetypes that happen in storytelling when you're
Speaker 2: trying to, you know, put the tapestry of a show together.
Speaker 2: You know, producers are thinking about that in the way
Speaker 2: that you know they're telling a story so.
Speaker 3: Perc Yeah, I know exactly. So you can accidentally stumbles.
Speaker 4: Across the secret formula. You're like, oh, wow, I've got
Speaker 4: the script in front of me, but the whole script
Speaker 4: in front of me.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I honestly had seventy five other questions and I'm
Speaker 2: going to have to wrap this up because we're running
Speaker 2: out of time. Do you actually think that Jaden's claimed
Speaker 2: that you were his revenge seemed a bit silly? I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know, like when he said, oh, this is
Speaker 2: for you, I was like, what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it was Fairris that actually want to win her out
Speaker 3: and I actually wanted a Valeria out. I think it
Speaker 3: was just sort of misplaced. I think it was more
Speaker 3: just he could actually do something because if you look
Speaker 3: about it, he voted for us the vote before. If
Speaker 3: he really wanted revenge, he would have gone to the
Speaker 3: other guys and be like, hey, let's do something. Let's
Speaker 3: take out to one of these people that like you
Speaker 3: would have gone to a curby or something like that,
Speaker 3: like this is what I wanted to do, but it
Speaker 3: didn't happen that way.
Speaker 4: And look, Jaden is Jade's Jayden.
Speaker 3: He's gonna play the game in an unusual way, like
Speaker 3: it's been dormant.
Speaker 2: Like I've seen volcanoes go off more than that man,
Speaker 2: and I've never seen a volcano go off anyway in
Speaker 2: the game of survivor, in the game of Australian Survivor.
Speaker 2: If you can put that in a sentence and say,
Speaker 2: what you learned in the.
Speaker 3: Game of Australian Survivor, You've got to keep your friends
Speaker 3: close and your enemies closer, and always be thinking one
Speaker 3: step ahead.
Speaker 2: See this is why it's so good at these confessionals,
Speaker 2: because it's just so succinct. Everyone who joins the podcets
Speaker 2: asked this question, what is something from behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: something we didn't get a chance to see, something of
Speaker 2: like a behind the scenes moment for you.
Speaker 4: Look.
Speaker 3: A lot of my voting confessionals that didn't make the air.
Speaker 3: I was really happy with one where I sent Rere
Speaker 3: over as the as the spy to the other side.
Speaker 3: It was an entire mission impossible miss is your mission
Speaker 3: if you choose to accept it thing, and I've put
Speaker 3: it out there. There's so much fun stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I think the stuff that me and Charles did together
Speaker 3: was wild. I'm not sure whether you heard about Charles
Speaker 3: sabotaged all the fishing equipment because he's a vegan. Yeah
Speaker 3: so yeah you heard that, Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: it's so good. And the time that Charles got attacked
Speaker 3: by a scorpion out there.
Speaker 4: There was a scorpion on that one.
Speaker 2: But I definitely, you know, I actually while he was
Speaker 2: telling me the story about being the vegan and sabotage
Speaker 2: and all the fishing, I was actually really angry.
Speaker 1: It's like, because I was loving Charles up until that point.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was so excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then then he started saying about how he
Speaker 2: was a vegan. He didn't let because I mean, that's
Speaker 2: what happens in these shows. You always get a vegan
Speaker 2: and like the vegan you become friends with, but then
Speaker 2: you have this confluence because you're like, think about.
Speaker 3: All those fish that people didn't get to eat exactly.
Speaker 3: I think me and Kitty's relationship didn't come through.
Speaker 4: Me and Kitty were like tight as tight could be.
Speaker 3: She's like, she's an amazing person and so she's got
Speaker 3: such a great outlook at her life and we got
Speaker 3: on really really well out there. So there's a lot
Speaker 3: of things that were left on their edit room floor,
Speaker 3: but we'll have to talk.
Speaker 2: About that another time. I think then that podcast. Enjoy
Speaker 2: chatting to the media. This is your moment, this is
Speaker 2: your time to shine. People like myself are so excited
Speaker 2: to be able to have access to.
Speaker 1: You and unpack the game and just enjoy the ride.
Speaker 4: Thanks mate, thank you so much. Hopefully we get to
Speaker 4: talk again, as we'll win absolutely