1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Now joining us on the line right now is Robin Lamley, 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: the Independent member for Ara lun Good morning to you, Robin. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. Good news about COVID, well good news. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, no new cases. 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: So let's hope that you know, as we as we 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: sort of hear from the Chief Minister more extensively at 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: that press conference, that we can find out and get 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: a bit more detail about all of those close contacts 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: and all of those casual contacts as well. Whether they've 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: all been tested now so to Time will tell, Robin. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: But I want to talk to you about a situation 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: that unfolded yesterday and Alice Springs. 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: I understand that. 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: You know that there was apparently a vehicle that was 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: driving through what is a pretty busy car park there 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs, ramming into other vehicles and did they 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: actually hit other people as well? 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: They didn't. The car that was driven didn't hit a 19 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: human being that had hit multiple vehicles allegedly. I'm in 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: lockdown in Darwin. Wasn't there, but I've heard from many 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: sources that it was just horrific. There were people flying everywhere, 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: people screaming and yelling, the sound of metal crushing screeching ties. 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: This was an outrageous, horrific incident that occurred twenty four 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: hours ago in the Coles Car Park in Ala Springs. 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: They then went on into other streets of the CBD 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: and I think allegedly ran into other vehicles. But this 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: was absolutely horrific what took place yesterday in Alice Springs. 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Someone was hurt, they got tin between cars because of 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: that car ranning into another car. A lady, a lady 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: in her sixty she was hospitalized. I understand she's okay, 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: but people could have been killed, Katie. It was like 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: you see on TV. Remember the Burke Street attacked here 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: several years ago in when people died. That's what happened 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: in Alice Springs yesterday, twenty four hours ago. And we've 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: heard absolutely nothing from the Chief Minister or any other minister, 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: nor the police commissioner. I'm just beside myself, Katie. This 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: is just not good enough. 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Rob and I see that now, just I think. 39 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: In the last ten minutes, the Northern Territory Police have 40 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: issued a press release saying that they've charged a man 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: in relation to a number of dangerous driving incidents in 42 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: Alice Springs. 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: Yesterday. 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: So a nineteen year old was allegedly driving around Alice Springs, 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: CBD in a Ford Falcon while intoxicated. He allegedly entered 46 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: a supermarket car park, as we've now discussed, pushing it 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: into a female vehicle, a female's victim, sorry, who sustained 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: minor injuries. He then continued to drive erradically, colliding with 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: a number of vehicles as you've described. His vehicle broke down, 50 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: apparently on Palm Circuit, where he was arrested by police. 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: He underwent a breath analysis, providing a high range reading 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: of zero point one point. 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: Nine to eight percent. 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: Wow. 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: He's been charged now with a number of offenses, two 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: counts of not stopping after a crash, one count of 57 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: recklessly endangering serious harm, one of high range brec one 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: of driving a vehicle in a manner dangerous, as well 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: as entering an intersection with against a red light, and 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: driving a motor vehicle while unlicensed. 61 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: Robin. 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: It sounds quite terrifying. Actually what unfolded. 63 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: People were terrifying, Katie. People were screaming, telling people to 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: get out of the way, moves looking for safety. It 65 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: was like a scene out of a terror incident. It 66 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: was a terror incident. It was terrifying, and we've heard 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: nothing from the government, nothing from anyone in a leadership position. 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: It's like it didn't even happen. If you don't talk 69 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: about it, it didn't happen. I am just beside myself. 70 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: What more can I do as a local member of 71 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: Parliament to make this government respond to what's happening in 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: Alice Springs. They are not easy fixes. We hear these 73 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: motherhood statements in Parliament telling us how difficult it is 74 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: and how much money they're spending on different strategies, but 75 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: things are getting worse. Katie, and what happened in yesterday 76 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: really beggars belief. It should be it should have been 77 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: on the front page of every paper in Australia what 78 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: happened in Alice Springs. Yes, it wasn't. It didn't get 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: courage from the NT News. I don't think the ABC 80 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: ran it. I think Alice Springs News Online, the local 81 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: online newspaper. They've done a story now and twenty four 82 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: hours later, you're talking about a press release that the 83 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: police have just put out. We are the Paul Cousins 84 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred kilometers down the track. Katie. And this is 85 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: a classic example, Robin. 86 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: I know this morning you have now written to the 87 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: Chief Minister, haven't you. What are you asking for from 88 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: the Chief Minister in this letter? 89 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Very simply, we need help. We need them to take 90 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: a deeper look into the problems in central Australia. I 91 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: mean there was a man was killed less than two 92 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: weeks ago on the rough Highway near where these young 93 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: people were picked up. Yesterday the culprits. Yesterday a man 94 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: was killed about one hundred meters down the road from there, 95 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: an alleged hit and run. Less than two weeks later, 96 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: we're talking about the most horrific scene you could probably 97 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: imagine in the Coles car park of Alice Springs. I'm 98 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: simply asking for the Chief Minister, the Minister for Police 99 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: and the Anti Police Commissioner to help us to look 100 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: at what's going on here. We can't have this so 101 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: of inaction that we're seeing at the moment. The police 102 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: were there within five minutes yesterday. They did the best 103 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: possible job they could do. They cordoned it off. It 104 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: was a crime scene. There were cars littered everywhere that 105 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: was smashed into. They did a good job, but we 106 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: need leadership. We need a whole of government, whole of 107 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: community response to what's happening in Alice Springs. Otherwise people 108 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: are going to just pack their bags and leave this 109 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: poor woman who was made or hurt yesterday. I saw 110 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: a post online she said, I've lived in town for 111 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: more than thirty years. I've grown my children up here. 112 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: I'm at my witsand that's it. 113 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: Robin, you sound absolutely exasperated. 114 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: Well, this is probably one of the worst situations I've 115 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: ever had to talk about. I mean, there could have 116 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: been multiple people killed yesterday, Katie. It's so serious, and 117 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: yet no one has even bothered to address the community 118 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: of Alice Springs. Yeah. I haven't met my wit Jen, 119 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: and honestly, what can I do. I've gone on Katie 120 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: Wolf's program to beg for some attention. 121 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: Well, Robin, I tell you what you know? 122 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, honestly, as you know, I mean, you know, 123 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: we'll always have you on the show. There is no 124 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: doubt about that. We love having you on and we 125 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: always want to make sure that Alice Springs is not forgotten. 126 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: We are a whole northern territory. We're not just a Darwin. 127 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: You know, we cannot forget about our friends in. 128 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: Ourice thank you. But if this happened in the Nightcliff 129 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: Shopping Center car park, there would be a different response. Yeah, 130 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: you can guarantee it. 131 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you are and you're right, you know, 132 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, we can't sort 133 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: of just go all right, well it's beyond the bear 134 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: of the line. 135 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: We didn't see it, so we didn't know that it happened. 136 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: You know. 137 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: For me, I'm heavily reliant on people like you telling 138 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: me what's going on in Alice Springs. 139 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: But to me, I just think this is mortifying. 140 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: You know what if you're at the shops, you know, 141 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: when my kids were a little light, have gone to 142 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: the shops at ten thirty in the morning with my 143 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: two little kids to go and do the food shopping. 144 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: You know, it does make you wonder how, Peter you. 145 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: Are feeling safe? Yeah, you think you're safe. Obviously, we 146 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: cannot shop during the day or night safely in Alice 147 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: Springs anymore. I go to the Coal supermarket regularly. My 148 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: office is within a stone's throw of the coal supermarket. 149 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: We all do. We've got the choice of two supermarkets 150 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: in Alice Springs, were worth or coals. Look, it is 151 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: such a serious incident that unfolded yesterday. I just hope 152 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: that the Chief Minister can drag himself away from what 153 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: is very important work with this lockdown, this COVID crisis 154 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: we're experiencing, and address the crisis in Alice Spring. 155 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty fair call and a fair 156 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: thing that you're asking there, Robin. You still are you 157 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: stuck in Darwin at the moment, Robin, Because if you are, 158 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: we'll get you back on for the week that was. 159 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: If you're still here on Friday. 160 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping I won't be on Friday, Katie. Hopefully 161 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: the lockdown will be living. We'll live tomorrow, if not 162 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: earlier possibly, And I'm on the first plane home. Can't 163 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: you get home? Yeah? 164 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: To your electorate and you were, yeah, you were anticipating 165 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: that Parliament was going to sit this week. We don't 166 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: know now what's going to happen in terms of parliament 167 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: being rescheduled. Do you think that these days need to 168 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: be made up? 169 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, they should be, but they won't be this time 170 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: last year or early in twenty twenty when we had 171 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: the lockdowns, they weren't rescheduled they were just canceled and 172 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 2: that was it. There's no reason why we couldn't have 173 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 2: sat this week, really, Katie, I mean that the federal 174 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: government's been sitting. There's one case in the territory. It 175 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: could blow out, It could have blown out to be 176 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: a major crime. But we could have socially distanced, had masked. 177 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: Parlaman House is a big complex. We could have done 178 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: it very, very safely. I think this is all a 179 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,359 Speaker 2: bit of a way in which the government can escape scrutiny. 180 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: Once again, I agree with the opposition leader Leah. I 181 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: think you know this is just working in so well 182 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 2: to them avoiding scrutiny. 183 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: Well, Robin Lamley, we always appreciate your time. Thank you 184 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: very much for letting us know what's going on in 185 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: Allie Springs. As I say, you know, I wouldn't have 186 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: been aware that that had happened, so I always appreciate 187 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: you getting in contact and letting me know what's happening. 188 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie. 189 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: Thank you