1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, the Joint Standing Committee on Aboriginal and 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander Affairs is traveling to the Northern Territory 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: this week to hear from key stakeholders about the impacts 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: of sun setting the Stronger Futures legislation. Hearings are going 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: to be held across both Darwin and Dallas Springs, with 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peak organizations, local community groups 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: as well as government agencies now joining me on the 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: line to tell us more about the hearings is the 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: committee chair, Senator Patrick Dodson. Good morning to your senator, 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Good morning to. 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: You, and good morning to your listeners. 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: Senator, what is the aim of the hearings that are 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: going to take place this week? 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: I think, in a very simple sense, it's to see 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: how the transition from the intervention has improved the lives 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: and territorians. What has been what how was the preparation 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: for the transition undertaken and really greater levels of community security, 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: employment and other aspects of the individual was intended to achieve. 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: So how has this worked, has it been a benefit, 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: has it failed in various ways? And what are the 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: lessons to learn out of it. 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that there's been quite a few concerns 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: raised about, you know, about the ending of the Strongest, 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: Stronger Futures legislation and alcohol being able to be accessed 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: back in some of our remote communities. Is that something 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: that's going to be a real focus of these of 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: these hearings. 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: Certainly alcohol management is one of the one of the 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: terms of reference that we'll be looking at. 30 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: Yes, now, there has, like I said, been some pretty 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: pretty serious concerns, right, So who are you expecting to 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: hear from, Well. 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: We will hear from the average agencies in in the 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: territory will be in Alla Springs as well. We'll be 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: hoping that the government and obviously the people that represent 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: the alcohol industry in due time. We hope that they'll 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: come along and explain how they've changed or not changed 38 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: in the way they go about delivering their particular services. 39 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: So the police of course will be hearing from them, 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: and we'll hopefully join the night patrol in Allo Springs 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: and have a look at how that all works. So 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: we're anxious to hear from the community people, the people 43 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: that have been at the forefront of these things. We 44 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: were going to go to men and greet it. But 45 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: that the request that we defer that because of sorry business, 46 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: so we'll do that, but we hope that we can 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: get them on through virtual you know, we're taking of 48 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: evidence later on. 49 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: So Senator, when exactly do the hearing start? Talkers through 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: the you know the program like when you're in Darwin 51 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: and then when you're going to be an alis. 52 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: Well, we start on tomorrow morning, I think, yes, tomorrow 53 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: morning and down it's Wednesday. The hearings will be up 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 2: at at the Parliament House. There'll be various witnesses come 55 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: forward throughout the day and we'll finish about four or 56 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: five o'clock in the afternoon, thank you. And then we'll 57 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: catch a plane on Thursday and go to other springs 58 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: and have a half a day of hearings there. Then 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: we'll have a full day of hearings on Friday, and 60 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: the committee will then go back to their respective locations 61 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: on Saturday. 62 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: And what is going to happen once the hearings are 63 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: complete and that evidence and you know the different concerns 64 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: or you know, the whether it's positive or negative that 65 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: feedback is received, what will you then do with it? 66 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: We've got to report to the Senate on the first 67 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: of March, and we'll be making recommendations to through the 68 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: Northern Territory. I suppose that may impact the Northern Territories 69 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: way in which it goes about its implementational policies. And 70 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: we'll also be making those recommendations of the Commonwealth. So 71 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: once we get the evidence in, we'll assess that and 72 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: we'll look towards we'll write a report. Of course it 73 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: goes back to the Senate will make recommendations. 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: And Senator, have you had sort of much I guess 75 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: pre feedback or pre discussion, because obviously we've got you know, 76 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: we've got the likes of MELANDERR. McCarthy here in the 77 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Territory who has spoken about this issue before, same as 78 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: Marian Scrimjaw and also just Enter Price and Looke Gosling 79 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: like they've all been vocal in different ways on this issue. 80 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: Have you had much feedback before these hearings get underway. 81 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, this terms of reference has come to the committee 82 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: I chair was moved by Melanderry McCarthy. Senator McCarthy, she 83 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: moved it and that's why we're undertaking the inquiry. Marion 84 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: Scrimmager will be on the Committee as a member of 85 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: the it's a joint House committee, so the House of 86 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,119 Speaker 2: Reps and Senators will be on it. Senator Little, who's 87 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: also a Liberal Senator from South Australia but with Broots 88 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: and Olla Springs will be on it, and the Senator 89 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: Thorpe of course from Victoria Green Senator, will be on 90 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: the committee as well. So it's a committee that has 91 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: got a cross section of the parliamentary parties and it will, 92 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: no doubt those various parties will have their perspectives. We've 93 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: heard obviously concerns that Senator Price has raised from time 94 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: to time in the Senate and outside the Senate, and 95 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: of course the concerns both of Senator McCarthy and and 96 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: of Marion Scrimmager have been very clearly put in the 97 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: ALP Caucus for First Nations on several occasions. 98 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, I think it'll be really fascinating to see exactly 99 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: what comes out of those hearings, Senator, before I let 100 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: you go, can anybody attend or is it something where 101 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: you've sort of got to you know, it's got to 102 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: have been pre arranged. 103 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: No, No, these are public hearings of the of the committee. 104 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: It's they're taken under under rape by people that present. 105 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: It's it's as if you're attending a session of the Parliament. 106 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: So it's it's the respect that's accorded to people that 107 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: we require will be the same standard as you get 108 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: from the Parliament. But it's able to the public to 109 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: come along and observe and see what's going on. 110 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: Well, we really appreciate you having a chat with us 111 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: this morning let us know a bit more about it. 112 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: Committee Chair and Senator Patrick Dodson, thank you so much 113 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: for your time. 114 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: Good on, Thanks very much, thank you.