1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: On today's show, emmaclare takes a swipe at brands that 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: dumped her and Slickstick owner Mia Plastic exposed for flogging 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: off a discounted designer bag. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and I have 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: some very troubling news coming from TikTok. Apparently the classic 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: combo of jeans and a nice top is dead. According 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: to who Well, it's a TikToker. 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: By the name of Jess. 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: She has about eight thousand followers, and she made the 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: very big call this week with her video, which attracted 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: two million views. So the Millennial told her followers that 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: jen zetters have replaced this staple outfit with a top 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: and a fun pant. Let's throw to what she said. 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: And I know this because I texted my very cool 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: gen Z friend today and I asked her what she's. 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Wearing out tonight. She said, I usually just do a fun. 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Pants and a tank tap, And then I thought about it. 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: I was like, Damn, she really is always wearing fun 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: pants and a tank tap. 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: Who's the issue? Fun ants are not in my repertoire. 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: They are not in the repertoire of millennial women. 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: We were not wearing fun pants. 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: We were wearing going out tops. The party was up top. 25 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: I need to know what a fun pant is because 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: I don't own any fun pants. Well, a fun pant 27 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: is a big cargo pant or leather trousers or a 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: bit of a colorful pant, a fun pants. 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: What about track pants? 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Could that be a fun No, definitely not. But when 31 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: I did hear this TikTok video, it was like a 32 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: penny dropped in my mind. Because when I'm out on 33 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: the weekend and I see young girls that look cool, 34 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: they are always wearing big pants and. 35 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: A plain top. 36 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: It's wild to me that I haven't figured this out 37 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: until now. It's funny, though, because thinking back to our twenties, 38 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you consider the colored jeans we 39 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: used to wear as fun pants like the skinny jeans 40 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: I used to be in hideous colors, usually brought from Zara. 41 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: I saw another TikTok video where someone was featuring all 42 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: the outfits that millennials wear tonight clubs, and it featured 43 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: a peplum top and also obviously the big jewelry, colorful jeans, 44 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: and also the bodycon dresses with the high heels. So 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: jealous of kids going out to town now in their sneakers, kids, well, 46 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: seven to eighteen year olds whatever. I had a big 47 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: laugh at Celebs Spellcheck's throwback post to Australian Fashion Week 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: because they shared some photos from two thousand and seven 49 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: of Sports Girl Show and it was just so funny. 50 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: Looking at the clothes, I couldn't believe they were actually 51 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: in fashion. 52 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: They were horrendous. 53 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: This TikTok comes at a good time now, though, because 54 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: every winter I think about refreshing my wardrobe and I'm 55 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: definitely going to be on the hunt for some fun pants. 56 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: We'll have to share the experience with our listeners. 57 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Do you know what's devastating is that I have cargo 58 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: pants and I've been holding onto them for about seven years. 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: But they're skinny cargoes. 60 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not in see. 61 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm not really a big fan of this news because 62 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: I feel like jeans are much more versatile, Like you 63 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: can wear jeans to every occasion, no one's going to 64 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: notice it. The the same if you have fun pants 65 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: like bright green pants or black you know, patter and pants. 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: People are going to notice that you're outfit repeating. And 67 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: I know outfit repeating is meant to be cool when 68 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: people should be doing it. But it's easier to outfit 69 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: repeat in jeans. No, I disagree. I think with the 70 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: the jeans are at the moment, A skinny jeen went 71 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: with nice tops, but now these in between baggy jeans, 72 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: they don't go with a nice top. 73 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: So today I went to the Harrod's warehouse Sally, Melbourne 74 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: and I got a few bargains. 75 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: Influenza tee Oz has caught Slickstick owner miaplastic out for 76 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: flogging off a designer handbag which she purchased at a 77 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: warehouse sale. The controversial influencer was trying to make four 78 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars off the deal. Now, Amy, before 79 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: we get into it, can you give listeners a refresher 80 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: on who Miaplasic is. 81 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 82 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: So, Mia is a thirty one year old entrepreneur from 83 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Melbourne who owns the Slickcare company, and she's a very 84 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: divisive figure who has attracted attention for supporting and attending 85 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: anti lockdown protests. Now, she also allegedly shared on Instagram 86 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: her plans to find a black market doctor to sign 87 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: a COVID passport for her. She also got caught out 88 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: for not properly promoting contrad deals for her thirtieth birthday 89 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: last year. So what is going on with his handbag? 90 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, Well, back in October of last year, Mia 91 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: shared a hall with her TikTok followers of the so 92 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: called bargains that she purchased from the Harold's Warehouse sale 93 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: and the pop up events sold a range of discounted 94 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: luxury branded items, and in the video, Mia revealed that 95 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: she purchased seven eight hundred dollars worth of luxury items 96 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: for just two thousand, nine hundred dollars. She did give 97 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: a disclaimer at the start of the video. 98 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: Here's what she said. 99 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: First, very important disclaimer. This is my money. I will 100 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: spend it on what I want and I will not 101 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: be told by you that it is a materialistic, stupid item. 102 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 1: Now, this hall included a bright orange jack, a moose 103 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: knit that looked utterly ridiculous, a pair of tracksuit pants 104 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: from Versaci, two Amina Moana handbags, a Burberry T shirt, 105 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: a bowl Maine black blazer, White Hills with a massive 106 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: bow from Match and Match, and finally a pair of 107 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: black Amina Moana heels. 108 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: All I want to know. 109 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: Is are the VERSACEI pants they fun pants? I think 110 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: you would justify that as a fun pant, But I 111 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: mean it kind of just looks like a brand has 112 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: vomited on you. It's very much a fashion victim vibe 113 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: that that hole went for. I'm glad she got all 114 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: the necessities from that hole. That orange jumper was heinous. 115 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: I can see why it didn't sell it full props. 116 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: To be fair to me, I think she was saying 117 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: how ridiculous she looked in it too, And it's because 118 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: she didn't have time to actually try the items on 119 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: because there were that many people there. Everyone was just 120 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: grabbing at this designer gear. Now, the reason this video 121 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: has resurfaced is because influencer te Oz noticed that Mia 122 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: is now trying to flog off one of the discounted 123 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: items at a much higher rate. Now, the item in 124 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: question is the black Amina Moana bag. Here's what Mia 125 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: said about the bag during her haule. 126 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: The next item that I got was this black Amina 127 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: Moana bag, super cute with the crystal detailing. Here and 128 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: here I actually don't own aana Amina Mwani bag. I've 129 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: got a pair of her shoes and I can say 130 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: that they are really shit quality. But this bag was 131 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: pre cute and it. 132 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: Was very, very cheap, So it was twelve. 133 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: Hundred and ninety dollars and I paid one hundred and eighty. 134 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: And the reason I only paid one hundred and eighty 135 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: because it's missing a crystal here, which she can't even notice, 136 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: so bargain me. 137 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: It does make a habit of selling her designer items 138 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: on Instagram. We did cover that as a topic last year, 139 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: and this week she put the handbag up for sale 140 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: on her Instagram story, uploading a photo and tagging the brand, 141 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: writing all black leather, missing one crystal, never worn, and 142 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: she wanted six hundred dollars for it, So to put 143 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: that into perspective, she paid one hundred and eighty dollars 144 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: at this basement bargain sort of place, and then it's 145 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: now trying to flog it off to her followers for 146 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: six hundred dollars a four hundred and twenty dollar profit there. See, 147 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: it's not unknown for people to invest in handbags and 148 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: sell them for a marked up price. But I doubt 149 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: this type of bag that was already being flogged off 150 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: at a low price is going to have increased in value. 151 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: It didn't sit well with me because she's trying to 152 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: sell it to her followers, and she never explained that 153 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: she didn't pay full price for this item. This was 154 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: over on her Instagram, so followers were unaware that she 155 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: had previously got at this discounted price on TikTok. I'm 156 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: really surprised that she didn't think the receipts would come 157 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: out on this one, particularly because everyone was really interested 158 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: last year when she was trying to flog off her 159 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: designer gear on Instagram. Yeah, at the time, there was 160 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about the transparency of some of 161 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: the designer items she was selling, because in twenty seventeen, 162 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: Miya spoke a lot about buying fake designer items from Dhgate, 163 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: which is a Chinese website. So it is quite interesting 164 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: that she is selling design a gear now. Yes, it's 165 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: the real deal, but I find it misleading that it's 166 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: from a discounted warehouse sale. If it was anyone else, though, 167 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: do you think people would have as much of a 168 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: problem with it, Because there are a lot of people 169 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: who do buy products and then they upsell them to 170 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: make extra money. Is it because she flashes this particular 171 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: lifestyle online that it annoys people? 172 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: Do you think? 173 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Definitely if this was Joe Blow down the Street, people 174 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: would probably be like, oh, yeah, good on you for 175 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: trying to flip it and make a deal. But her 176 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: branding is so weird because I feel like she's stuck 177 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: in the twenty sixteen days where influencers flash they're very 178 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: tacky design a gear in order to put out this. 179 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: Sort of status about herself. 180 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: But it's just really confusing because, if anything, it's sort 181 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: of a bogany image because it's almost like she's trying 182 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: to prove that she's rich by having all of this 183 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: design a gear when it's not really nice design a gear, 184 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: it's very tacky design a gear, and then also flogging 185 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: it off once she's done with it too for a 186 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: higher price. I mean, as I said earlier, it's not 187 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: an unknown thing for people to try and upsell designer stuff, 188 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: but again, it has to be design of stuff that 189 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: people actually want, not something that's been discounted heavily under sale. 190 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: And the other thing is for me, I wouldn't really 191 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: care as much if she was trying to sell these 192 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: on eBay or somewhere else, but because she's actually trying 193 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: to sell it to her audience of followers who were 194 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: supposed to trust her and follow her for her fashion 195 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: or whatever, find it a bit bad that she is 196 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: trying to mislead them. 197 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: It is misleading. 198 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: If you really want to know more about me, I 199 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: also killed my best friend's cat. 200 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: Emma Clair has taken a swipe at brands who dumped 201 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: her over the cat killing drama. The controversial influencer continues 202 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: to shift the blame and not take accountability for her actions. 203 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: Okay, can you tell us the latest? 204 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: So for some reason, she decided to do a Q 205 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: and A on her Instagram story, which I still find 206 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: baffling because you know what she's going to be asked. 207 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: So during this Q and A, a follower asked her 208 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: how she was feeling after MC beauty cut tires with her, 209 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: and at the time, the brand was praised for the 210 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: powerful statement they shared following Emma's podcast airing, and we 211 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: all said on this podcast ourselves, we think it was 212 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: a fantastic decision on their behalf. Emma doesn't think the same. 213 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: She said she was disappointed how the brand handled the 214 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: situation and that she didn't like how their statement married 215 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: her sound like a horrible person. She wrote, it was 216 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: a prime example of a company falling for the narrative, 217 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: pressure from people and the media and acting fast without 218 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: investigating the situation. I completely disagree with it. This is 219 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: a company that knows what to do in a crisis situation. 220 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: She's describing her own behavior. Does she forget that this 221 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: all came about from her podcast. This was her own 222 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: words that she recorded and she put out there. 223 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 224 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: Well, She went on to say it opened her eyes 225 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: and that moving forward, she'll be more fussy with the 226 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: brand she works with. Then she wants to work with 227 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: brands that support her in the tough times. I think 228 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: she doesn't realize that she's not the victim in this. 229 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: Whilst I do think she would have copped a lot 230 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: of trolling and a lot of difficult comments during this time, 231 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: I think it's completely reasonable to assume that brands you 232 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: work with, especially those who support the rights of animals, 233 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: would not want to work with you anymore, and they 234 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: also have to put out a pr statement saying why. 235 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: And someone like her is completely replaceable influence like how 236 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: many influences there are out there, there is no loyalty 237 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: from the brands. If you're going to fuck up and 238 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: say shit like this, there of course is going to 239 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: dump it. 240 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: It's like in any other workplace. 241 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: If you say or do something that's unacceptable or not 242 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: within the company's guidelines, you'll get fired. Well, she finished 243 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: off by saying that she will no longer treat social 244 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: media as a job, as she has a behind the 245 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: scenes job she makes income from, and instead she'll just 246 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: select a few brands and focus on her family and 247 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: her son. Does anyone else think that this is a 248 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: cover up because no brand would want to touch her 249 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: with a ten foot pole. I'm more confused. What is 250 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: the job that she does outside of her influencer work. 251 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't think she's actually opened 252 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: up about that yet. I probably would keep that on 253 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: the down low and private if I was her, because 254 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who were not happy 255 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: with her, and I'm sure that they would contact if 256 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: she does have an employer. Her employer, Well, that's all 257 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: we've got time for today, and we are excited because 258 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: we will be in your ears on Monday for a 259 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: bonus episode, we are doing a deep dive into Mitch 260 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: Orville and the Angry dad eras, so let's have a 261 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: listen to what you can expect on Monday. Mitchell Orville 262 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: went viral at a time when the term influencer hadn't 263 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: even been coined. Three hundred thousand miles the s all right, 264 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: yodor Man Chuli fucking bird at eighteen, He became an 265 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: Internet sensation when he started sharing hilarious pranks he pulled 266 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: on his dad. Me and Dilan have about to play 267 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: the most epic fucking prank ever. 268 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: Mitchell, where fucking the doors? 269 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: This is a fucking same laundry, I'm. 270 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: Telling you right now. 271 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: A relationship with one of Australia's most popular YouTubers, Chloe 272 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: zeb catapulted him into influence of fame. It's Mitchell Orvil 273 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: and I'm with my girlfriend Chloe Zepp. The social media 274 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: couple will love for keeping it real and being transparent 275 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: about their relationships ups and downs. The next question is 276 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: how many times a week do you do it? Zero? 277 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: I must been having sex with a ghost then maybe 278 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: ten seconds. It was Mitch's most vulnerable confession that earned 279 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: him the most respect online In twenty twenty, he revealed 280 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: he'd been battling a secret cocaine habit. One way to 281 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: help others be vulnerable is to be vulnerable yourself. So 282 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: here goes Mitch was arguably the most popular Australian male influencer. 283 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: But what goes up must come down. 284 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: We are journalist Sophie Kate and Amy Torber and this 285 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: is outspoken. Thank you so much for listening now. 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