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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the

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Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.

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Speaker 2: Now you did all the prep the day before, without

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Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 2: This is doctor Justin Colson, the author of six books

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Speaker 2: about raising happy families, and I'm here with my wife

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Speaker 2: Kylie missus Happy Families.

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Speaker 3: The mom to our six daughters. Feeling festive.

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Speaker 2: Just before we dive into today's content, which is more

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Speaker 2: Christmas Conundrums, because it was so much funny feedback about

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Speaker 2: last week's I just wanted to pull out a Christmas

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Speaker 2: gift that we've received from La La Di Da. La

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Speaker 2: make their families happier, La La Ladi Dah said five stars.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Justin Colson and his wife Kylie are the brains

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Speaker 2: and brawn of practical compassionate parenting. I'm so grateful for

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Speaker 3: To be a better parent. Must listen. I'm curious, are

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Speaker 4: I was thinking the same thing, and no, I'm definitely

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Speaker 2: Because I'm definitely not the braun. Oh, dear me, I

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Speaker 2: There's no brawn on me. We need to talk about

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Speaker 2: Christmas conundrums because we talked about some really fun ones

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Speaker 4: I was pretty impressed with our rapid fire. We did

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Speaker 3: So we're not going to be quite so rapid today.

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Speaker 2: We've only got three because the more Christmas conundrums we've

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Speaker 2: Oh that's another episode. And we've decided that we're going

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Speaker 4: Well, I know that every parent is thinking what time

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Speaker 4: I mean, most people's stockings are full of junk food,

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's thinking that on Christmas Day. Parents

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Speaker 4: So the drinky part about that is that we do that,

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Speaker 2: But that's also because they've expended so much energy. They

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Speaker 4: I guess that's how ginger beer and mango became and

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Speaker 4: Said to me, Mummy, can you please tell Santa not

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Speaker 2: We've been doing it for however many years, and it's

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Speaker 4: Well, she actually had a conversation with a friend, a friend,

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Speaker 3: All right, what's our next Christmas to under them?

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Speaker 2: All about how to stay out of the kitchen on

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Speaker 3: What are you laughing at?

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Speaker 3: I do the dishes. At the very end, when everyone else.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you've just tapped into the exact answer.

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Speaker 4: It's all about the preparation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so about a decade ago, maybe more, we had

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Speaker 3: And you did all the prep the day before.

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Speaker 2: But we just made the food and then it went

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Speaker 4: So the answer to that question is one hundred percent preparation.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Okay, we've got one more.

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Speaker 4: Crist I do have one other tip for that, leftovers

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Speaker 3: And the same with Boxing Day. Just keep it going.

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Speaker 4: This is the Happy Families Podcast, the podcast for the

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Speaker 4: time poor parent who just wants answers now. And we

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Speaker 4: have been diving into some more Christmas conundrums.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's do our last one.

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Speaker 4: Last one. Okay, so this is a big one. Should

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Speaker 4: Santa bring the big or the little gifts?

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Speaker 2: I love this question, so I reckon Santa should only

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Speaker 2: bring the little stuff. In fact, we've created a situation

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Speaker 2: in our family where Santa pretty much fills the stocking with.

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Speaker 3: With the essentials.

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Speaker 2: This goes back to our podcast the other week we

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Speaker 2: put the essentials. I've just realized there's always a whole

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Speaker 2: am when you so Santa gets to give the crappy

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think what happened was a long time ago

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Speaker 2: So we get credit for good gifts and Santa gives

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Speaker 3: That's not coal, that's exactly not a lump of coal.

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Speaker 4: But I actually recently I have seen this a few

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an old post I polished up on shuffle.

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Speaker 4: But all the big things, you know, don't tell them

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Speaker 3: Been pretty rotten to some families this year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The stocking, and every now and again there is something

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Speaker 2: So we're going to do a podcast in a few

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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