1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Like, start before you're ready. You know, you figure it 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: out as you go along. I think we wait for 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: everything to be perfect. Sometimes it's never perfect and the 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: messy stuff is where the magic is. So when you 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: crown yourself, you know you you put it out there 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: to the universe that like, this is who I am, 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: and this is what I'm creating and what I'm building, 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: and I'm worthy of doing this now. 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: Finally, welcome back to the Rise and Conker podcast. This 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: podcast is for women who want to take control of 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: their lives, gain the confidence to live unapologetically, and who 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 2: are ready to turn their biggest dreams into their reality. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: I'm your host Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur and 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: personal development junkie. In today's conversation, I'm sitting down with 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: Kara A. 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Will. 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: You may know her on Instagram as the Champagne Diet 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: So This power House is a New York City based 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: creative entrepreneur, best selling personal development author, creator of the 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: Champagne Diet blog, and has her own podcast called Style 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: Your Mind. Kara is all about crowning yourself instead of 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: waiting for outside validation, and she definitely practices what she preaches. 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: Kara left her corporate advertising job at MTV to pursue 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: her dream of being an author and since has published 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: nine books, with her most recent book called Girl on Fire, 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: which I absolutely loved. This book focuses on blazing your 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: own trail and reinforces that women don't need permission from 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: anyone to live fearlessly and start living their dream life. 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: I think we can all take a note from Kara's 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: book quite literally, and I cannot wait to share this 31 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: conversation with you. It is such a goodie. Before we 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: get into the show, I want to remind you guys 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: that but in my previous episode, I announced our first 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: ever Rise and Conquer merg the organized to Rise and 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: Conquer and the Rise and Conquer Your Every Desired notepads 36 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: go on sale on the tenth of September, which is 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 2: this Thursday at seven eight m. So these notepads were 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: created from my non negotiable daily practices that I do 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: in my journal, and I wanted to give you these 40 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: journal prompts on beautiful notepads and they really combine the 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: energies that I use, which is, you know, the masculine 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: energy of like getting shit done, being productive, and the 43 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: fem energy of being aligned, you know, vibing super high 44 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: and being really clear on what I am working towards. 45 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: So if you want more information on the notepads, I 46 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: will be sharing a lot more on my Instagram, which 47 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: is just at Georgie Stevenson. Also, guys, I am so 48 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: much happening in September. But I also announced that Round 49 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: two of the Rise and Concer Project is opening up 50 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: for one last time in twenty twenty, So if you 51 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: guys don't know, the Rise and Concer Project is a 52 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: six week, intensive live online course where I take a 53 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: group of women through six modules and I basically teach 54 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: them the formula that I use any time that I 55 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: want to up level, step into my power and achieve 56 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: a new goal. So I have a whole formula that 57 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: I use, you know, when I left my corporate job 58 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: to start this business, when we started Naked Harvest, when 59 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: we bought our beach house, at literally everything, and I 60 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: teach it to a group of women. So you've got 61 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: to be really ready and interested. Because there are limited 62 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: numbers and Round two sold out in twenty four hours. 63 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: I am opening up a couple more spots, so I'm 64 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: hoping it doesn't sell out that fast, but I would 65 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: say I cannot guarantee anything. So registration opens up on 66 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: the fifteenth of September. More details to come, and then 67 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: the course starts on the twenty first of September. So guys, 68 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: if you want more information on that, you can head 69 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: to my website which is just Georgie Stevenson dot net 70 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: and click online course. And there's also a whole heap 71 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: of reviews on there. All right, guys, let's get straight 72 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: into the show. 73 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: Cara, welcome to the show. 74 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Hi, thank you so much for having me. I'm so 75 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: excited to be here. 76 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: I am so excited, guys. 77 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: Just before we just before we press record, I was 78 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: telling Kara how much of a fangirl I am. So 79 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: I am beyond excited. It is six am where I am, 80 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: and it is in the afternoon for Kara. We're making 81 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: this work and yeah, I'm so excited for this. 82 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, so, Cara. Something that I. 83 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 2: Ask all my Season three guests is what is something 84 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: you practice daily, non negotiable in your routine that helps 85 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: you step into your power. 86 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh that is such a good question. You know, the 87 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: way that I set up my morning routine is really 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: important to me, so I have a strict role in 89 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: my home. I don't watch the news when I wake 90 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: up in the morning. I'm really careful and intentional about 91 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: what I consume. So typically I wake up, I have 92 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: my little gratitude ritual. I just think of three things 93 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm grateful for before I get out of bed. It's 94 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: something that really helps kind of set the tone for me. 95 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: And then I wake up and I light a candle, 96 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: I have my coffee, and I put on music. I 97 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: just listen to some mellow music while I sort of 98 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: settle into the day. You know, I do a little 99 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, spend a little bit of time on the computer. 100 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: I'll check some emails, nothing urgent or crazy. I just 101 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: kind of like check in, and then I'll just spend 102 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: usually about a half hour just on pin or doing 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: something that inspires me, reading articles that I've bookmarked to read. 104 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: But really just taking like at least an hour for 105 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: myself in the morning is so important, and I feel 106 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: a difference if I don't do that for some reason, 107 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: or if I just get stucked into like reading the 108 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: news or responding to all the text messages from the 109 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: night before, I can feel myself getting into like more 110 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: of a frantic energy rather than empowered energy. So the 111 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: way that I just wake up in the morning, you know, 112 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: is just honestly like it's my favorite part of the 113 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: day because it just feels like it's mine, you know. 114 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: I love that, and I resonate with that so much. 115 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: I used to work corporate and have to start at 116 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: seven point thirty in the morning, and it was so frantic, 117 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: And now I work for myself and my mornings are 118 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: so my favorite thing, and they're slow and they're intentional, 119 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: and I notice such a big difference too, So I 120 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: love that. Yes, so, Car, can you give us a 121 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: snapshot of who you are and what you do? 122 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: Sure? So. I am an author and creative entrepreneur based 123 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: in New York City, born and raised here, and my 124 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: journey really started from a young age, my journey with writing. 125 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: Like I always knew that I wanted to be a writer, 126 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: I just didn't really know how that was going to 127 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: take shape. You know. I thought for a while I 128 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: wanted to be a music journalist, and you know, I 129 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of dipped my toes in that. I always knew 130 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: that I wanted to write a book, but I found 131 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: myself kind of at a crossroads. When I was in 132 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: my mid twenties, I was also working corporate. I was 133 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: working for MTV, and my job was fine. It wasn't 134 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: a terrible job, but it was just boring. You know. 135 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: I really wasn't reaching my full potential. I didn't feel creative. 136 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: It was a very technical role that I was in, 137 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: and I kind of like had a moment where I 138 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: was like, is this it? Like, is this all that 139 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: there is? So that really and we can totally dive 140 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: into that like later in the show, but that was 141 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: the moment for me that I just for me started 142 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: my transformation. That really just kind of change the whole 143 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: trajectory of my life. And I started a blog and 144 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: I've had that blog for twelve years. I'm also a 145 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: certified professional life coach for women, so I work with 146 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: a lot of female entrepreneurs. I've written and self published 147 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: nine books. I've got a vintage jewelry line, so I've 148 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: got a lot going on in my life. But it 149 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: was all really started from a place of just I 150 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: don't want to stay pain necessarily, but a place of 151 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: like just feeling like I wanted more, you know, So 152 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: everything that I do is really just rooted in wanting 153 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: to you know, feel better, feel happier, empower myself and 154 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: in turn empower the women around me. That's really just 155 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: my mission statement, like live your most effervescent life, do 156 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: the things you want to do. And you know, I 157 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: really believe that if I could make those changes in 158 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: my world. And I'm sure you agree with this as well, 159 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: like you everyone around you can. It's just it's really 160 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: just about the mindset. So everything I do, whether it's 161 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, curating a piece of vintage jewelry or writing 162 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: a book or hosting you know, a workshop or a mastermind, 163 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: it's all really just rooted in that same, you know, 164 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: idea of empowerment and just living this beautiful, wonderful life 165 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: that you create for yourself. 166 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: I love that, and I love how multi passionate you are. 167 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: So let's go straight to the beginning and let's talk 168 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: about your blog. 169 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: The Champagne Diet. So, I know you said it was. 170 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: A creative outlet for your corporate job that you had 171 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: an empty fee. Can you tell us a little bit 172 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: about why you started the blog and what creating the 173 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: Champagne Life means for you. 174 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, you know, like I said, I was really 175 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: just like this kind of crossroads, right, I was like, 176 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: I just want more. I don't feel content, I don't 177 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: feel happy. You know. I was in a relationship that 178 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 1: wasn't good for me. It was very toxic, it was 179 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: very emotionally all over the place. I knew that I wasn't, 180 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: you know, with the right person. I wasn't in the 181 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: right job. I wasn't really taking care of myself my body. 182 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: It was overworked and just overindulging in anything just to 183 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: kind of like escape. I'm sure you know, Georgie, like 184 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: the corporate grind, what that does to you, like physically 185 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: pretty So I you know, I picked up I started 186 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: drinking champagne at the recommendation of a friend. I picked 187 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: up that habit friend who's just basically recommended incorporating it 188 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: into a healthier lifestyle because you may may or may 189 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: not know this, but champagne is kind of one of 190 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: the lower calorie adult beverages that you could have. So 191 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: there's about ninety two one hundred calories and a glass 192 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: of champagne. You know, it's compared to like wine or 193 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: beer or cocktails, which are loaded with calories. So I 194 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: was looking for just like a reboot in my life. 195 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: I you know, started to take care of myself, started 196 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: to eat better, started to really think about like who 197 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to be as a woman and who I 198 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: was becoming. So it really was this tongue in cheap 199 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: like joke that I was on the Champagne diet, but 200 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: it kind of was a diet in a way. Right. 201 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: It's eating well and incorporating champagne, you know, as my 202 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: drink of choice when we would go out, instead of dessert, 203 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: I would get a glass of champagne or a happy hour. 204 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: But I quickly noticed that the symbolism of champagne for 205 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: me was so much more than the actual drink itself. 206 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: It really became this metaphor for me for just living effervescently, 207 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: for celebrating myself. You know, we think about champagne, it's 208 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: like always just associated with celebrating and luxurying, glamor and beauty, 209 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: and I wanted more of that in my life, and 210 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: champagne became this sort of like gateway drug, if you will, 211 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: for me to like create that vibe, to create that 212 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: energy into my world. So, you know, the blog was 213 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: inspired by that, and it has just changed shape. It's 214 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: always it's it's weird because it's changed so much, and 215 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's twelve years old now, this whole 216 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: brand that I've created, and it's definitely had these different 217 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: iterations of itself, but again it's still really just based 218 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: in that same mission statement, you know, living effervescently, finding 219 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: a reason to toast yourself every day, and if it's 220 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: not with champagne, even if it's just with your sparkling 221 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: water or a cup of tea or something whatever you love, 222 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: just taking that time out and being intentional about like 223 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: raising a toast to yourself. Because women, we're so it's 224 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: so easy for us to beat ourselves up and to 225 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: critique ourselves and to feel like we're not doing enough, 226 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, And I think, to anyone listening right now, 227 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: like when is the last time you actually sat down 228 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: and really celebrated an accomplishment, celebrated who you are, celebrated 229 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: even just getting through the day, Like sometimes that's enough, 230 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: especially now, times are challenging for a lot of people. 231 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: So I think it's just so important to you know, 232 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: live your Champagne life as I call it, and realize 233 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: that every day is worth celebrating. And you really have 234 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: control over so many more things in your world than 235 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: you think you do, you know, so for me, a 236 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: champagne life is not necessarily about having the most expensive, 237 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: luxurious thing, but it's taking what I have and making 238 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: it feel special, making it feel beautiful. 239 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: And I think that's something you do extremely well, especially 240 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: like on your social media and through your podcast as 241 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: you encourage women to celebrate themselves and celebrate their lives, 242 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: which is it's beautiful. 243 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: And it's so funny. 244 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie. I am a big a 245 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: champagne drinker, and I swear this has come from you. 246 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: I love it like not not like a big drinker. 247 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. 248 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: I'm not like a huge drinker, but one hundred percent 249 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: drink of choice is champagne. 250 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: And it does. 251 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: It feels like you're it feels like special every time, 252 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. 253 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: It does. It feels like you're treating yourself to something 254 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: so nice, and it's just it's beautiful to look at. 255 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: I just love, you know, watching the bubbles rise to 256 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: the top and it's just this gold and gorgeous color 257 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: and it's just I don't know, it's a whole vibe 258 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: for me. 259 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: Ah, I love it, and just quickly what other ways 260 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: do you celebrate yourself? 261 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: So many different ways, you know, I try to think 262 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: of everything in my life, as many things as I 263 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: can as a celebration. I mean, even a workout, right, 264 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Like I think sometimes we look at exercise or doing 265 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: something that we know is good for us, but we 266 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: feel like it's a chore or we dread it in 267 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: some way. But whenever I work out, I try to 268 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: have gratitude for the fact that I can. You know, 269 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: my friend Noah says this, He's my soul cycle structor 270 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: and good friend. He always says, like, you get to 271 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: do this, you know, when you get on that bike, 272 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: when you get in that gym, on that treadmill, where 273 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: ever it is that you are working out, you get 274 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: to do this. There are so many people that would 275 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: love to be in your shoes that can't you know, 276 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: work out, that can't walk, that can't do those things. 277 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: So it's really for me about gratitude, you know, So 278 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: finding those moments to celebrate life, like in a workout, 279 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: when I'm getting dressed in the morning, when I'm you know, 280 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: cooking a meal for myself, when I'm in my home 281 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, just really looking around and feeling a sense 282 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: of gratitude and even taking it a step further and 283 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: feeling a sense of celebration for everything that surrounds me. 284 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: I love it. 285 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: Mind Like it's so clear, like mindset is everything, and 286 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: I think you cultivate. 287 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: That so well. 288 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's move on to self publishing. So you're 289 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: a self publishing author, and I know that you've written 290 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: so many amazing books, which I've read almost all of them, 291 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: and I love that you self published. Can you tell 292 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: us a little bit about the process of writing your 293 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: many books and how rejections did you into becoming a 294 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: self published rite. 295 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I knew early on when I started my 296 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: Champagne Journey, if you will, then I wanted to write 297 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: a book. I just knew. I you know, I felt 298 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: like I had this blog and I had these stories 299 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: I really wanted to tell and share with women. So 300 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to write. And I had this 301 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: sort of like Carrie Bradshaw fantasy in my head of 302 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: like getting this book deal and being this like, you know, 303 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author running all around New York City. 304 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: But it didn't happen that way. For me, it was 305 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: actually completely the opposite. I tried to get a book deal, 306 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: and if you've ever tried, or if anyone's listening has 307 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: ever tried, it's not so easy to do that, you know, 308 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: it's not. You need to get a literary agent, and 309 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: even that is really difficult to do. So I put 310 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: together a book proposal and I actually did land an agent, 311 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: and I had a great agent. I actually had a 312 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: couple who were interested in me. So the fact that 313 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: I had the agent made me feel even more whole. 314 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is going to happen. This 315 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: is a done deal. I could see it. I just 316 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: imagined like the book launch party in my mind and 317 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: the book tour. But when we went out with the 318 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: book proposal, it was rejected and not once, not toys, 319 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: but nineteen times by nineteen different publishers. I didn't even 320 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: know nineteen publishers existed at the time. I was like, wow, 321 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: just keep it coming, right. So I faced a lot 322 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: of rejection, and I faced a very pivotal moment in 323 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: my journey in my career. And at the time I 324 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: was reading a lot of Seth Godin. I don't know 325 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: if you're familiar with him, but he was writing a 326 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: lot about the self publishing movement that Amazon was really spearheading. 327 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: Amazon created a platform that at the time was called 328 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: to Create Space, and it was a place where authors 329 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: could come and self publish their books with no fate, 330 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: no overhead. Amazon would print and shift your book on demand. 331 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: So you know, traditionally with self publishing, you would have 332 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: to order all these books and have these you know, 333 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: this warehouse full of boxes of books and be selling 334 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: them in the street or wherever you could. This was 335 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: a completely revolutionary experience and opportunity for authors. So as 336 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, as defeated as I felt, I still had 337 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: a sense of hope because I was, you know, I 338 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: was being flexible. I was I think that's like one 339 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: of the biggest takeaways, like being flexible about how you're 340 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: going to get where you want to go and really 341 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: detaching from that outcome and not feeling like your life 342 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: will be over if it doesn't happen in the exact 343 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: way that you thought it was going to happen. So 344 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: I started researching Amazon and I was like, you know what, 345 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm just going to take a chance on myself. I'm 346 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: just going to choose myself and put myself out there 347 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: and see what happens. What's the worst that can happen? 348 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: Nobody buys the book, and then I've gotten it out 349 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: of my system. I can go resume in my corporate job, 350 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: which I was still in at the time. But you know, 351 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: in my head, I was like, I'll just climb the 352 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: corporate ladder and I guess that will be my path. 353 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: But it was and actually it was probably one of 354 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: the most he was probably one of the most liberating 355 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: and six festful moments for me when I did self 356 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: published the first book, Sparkle. And it's not because the 357 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: book sold millions of copies. It's because I went through 358 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: that process and I saw what it was like to 359 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: really put yourself out there with nobody behind you, with 360 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: no publisher, you know, with no team, no pr no marketing. 361 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: Was just me in my little apartment, you know, here 362 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: in New York City, hustling and figuring it out, and 363 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: you know, going to what I call Google University, just 364 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: googling your way into things. And I put that first 365 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: book out there, and then I did another one and 366 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: another one, and by my fourth book, Girl Code, which 367 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I know you're familiar with. That is when everything changed. 368 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: That book just for whatever reason, took off. It was 369 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: the timing, it was the message. I don't know what 370 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: it was, but that book sold fifty thousand copies independently. 371 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: I sold that on my own, which is like a 372 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: huge deal because most, like traditionally published books don't even 373 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: do that well. And it's funny. Everyone close to me, 374 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: like my mom and my friends, were like, is going on? 375 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: What happened? I remember I used to like look at 376 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: my Amazon platform and think there was a mistake, you know, like, 377 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: how could this be real? You know, it was this 378 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: book selling, but it wasn't a mistake. And that's when 379 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: Penguin Random House actually came to me and wanted to 380 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: publish me all of a sudden, and they did. They 381 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: I negotiated the rights to Girl Code for them, you know, 382 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: to sell to them, so that they could take the 383 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: book and really put it out there and reach more women. 384 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: It's been translated now in so many languages, and I've 385 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: continued to you know, I worked with them in another book, 386 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: but I've continued to self publish. So the journey has 387 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: been long, but it has been worth it, and it 388 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: has honestly been one of the most transformative things in 389 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: my in my whole career. 390 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: Yes, and that and something I would love to chat about. 391 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: And I love I love what you said about how 392 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: you know, rejection then stayed you into this path. Then 393 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: you was self publishing, and actually I love the fact 394 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: that you it wasn't until your fourth book that you said, 395 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 2: you know, Girl Code, that it really took off. And 396 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: I think that is huge because I think a lot 397 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: of us, you know, we put something out there and 398 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: if it doesn't you know, take off or do as 399 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: well as we thought, we stop and we don't keep going. 400 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 3: And I think it. 401 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: Is so huge that you kept going and you kept 402 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: writing for yourself and obviously you know, for your community, 403 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: and it wasn't just you know, an overnight success, but 404 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: you kept going and look what happened. 405 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And I did it, you know, not just 406 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: for me, but I did it because I knew that 407 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: I had to prove to other women that they could 408 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: do it too. I really felt in my head because 409 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: at that point, remember, I had built up the blog, 410 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: I was coaching, so it was really connecting with women 411 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: out there, and I was like, I've got to just 412 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: like do this and you know, kind of like set 413 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: the path for people to realize that you don't need 414 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: anyone behind you. You really can make this happen for yourself. 415 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: And I think now years later, looking at the way 416 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: business and entrepreneurship has changed, that is the path of 417 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: choice for many people. People now are realizing, I don't 418 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: even need a publisher. Why would I give away so 419 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: much control and so much of the profit of my books? 420 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, same thing for musicians. And it's just been Yeah, 421 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: it's just been such a such an interesting way to 422 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: to really run a business. And it's been such a 423 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: vote of confidence for me as well, you know, because 424 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: like you've got to get behind yourself when you put 425 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: yourself out there, like it's like it's all on you. 426 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: You handle the good, the bad, the in between. And 427 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes going on Amazon and reading reading those 428 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: like scathing reviews that I randomly will get from people 429 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: who just feel the needs me apart. You know, like 430 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: if you got to handle all that, you got to 431 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: be prepared for it, have a thick skin. But I 432 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: can tell you it's like, honestly one of the most 433 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: rewarding experiences ever because knowing that you put that faith 434 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: behind yourself. It just makes you feel unstoppable. 435 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: Like you would say you crowned yourself. 436 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And we all need to cround ourselves, you know. 437 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: It's like if you don't do it, who will, right, 438 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: Like we can't wait around. Life is so short. And 439 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: that's like something I remind myself of every time I 440 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: start something new, because like I am multi passionate, and 441 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: I do love dipping my toes into new industries and 442 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: new waters and new passions. But it can be scary. 443 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: We all get a little bit of the imposter syndrome. 444 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: But you've got to realize that like everybody starts from 445 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: the same place, everybody starts at zero, right, everybody's building 446 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: themselves into whatever it is that they're doing. I think 447 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: the people who make it and people who are successful 448 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: are just the ones that stick with it. 449 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that, and so talk us through. I 450 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 2: know that you said you self published all your books 451 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: and girl Code started to take off, and then like 452 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: you said, Penguin pick that up. 453 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: And then I know that you. 454 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: Did publish your book actually owns the Place, which is 455 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: also one of my favorites, and you went through a 456 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: popa but then your most recent book, Girl on Fire, 457 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: was then self published. Can you talk us through why 458 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: that was and what sort of happened there? 459 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like she owns the place is the book 460 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: I did with Penguin. So I did that book from 461 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: start to finish with them, and I had an interesting experience. 462 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: I had a great editor, and I love her and 463 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: she's amazing, and she helped that book become what it is, 464 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: But there were other things about the process that I 465 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: really just did not prefer. You know, it's it takes 466 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: much longer to work with the publisher. So you're looking 467 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: at about a year and a half from when you 468 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: sign your contract to when that book is going to 469 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: be out there. You are dealing with a lot more 470 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: people that have interest in the way that the book 471 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: is going to be brought out to the world, from 472 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: the cover to the editing to the marketing plan. You know, 473 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: you're dealing with people who you know, they're working with 474 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: so many other authors, right, Like, no one is ever 475 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: going to be as excited about your work as you are. 476 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: So when you're working with a team who's you know, 477 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: dealing with other authors and you know, maybe not fully 478 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: understanding your vision, that can be a little bit frustrating 479 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: and also, I mean financially, it just makes so much 480 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: more sense to self publish. You know, you're really giving 481 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: the lie and share of the royalties away when you 482 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: enter into a book deal. But for me, it was 483 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: a strategic move and it was a dream that I 484 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: had to realize and it was something I needed to 485 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: like just do for myself. But it did lead me 486 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: to realize that I preferred being an independent author and 487 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: I prefer self publishing, and that's what Girl on Fire 488 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: really was all about. I did that book after my 489 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: experience with a publisher, and the whole you know ethos 490 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: of the book is really about blazing your own trail 491 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: and not needing anyone and recognizing that success really is 492 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: lies within you. It doesn't you know, you're not going 493 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: to find success in some external outcome. I think for me, 494 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: I still had that dream like, well, once I'm with 495 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: a publisher, that I'm like a quote real author, But 496 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: that was just untrue. So Throw on Fire, I think, 497 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: to me, that's my most favorite book. It's I think 498 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: it's the best one that I've written, and I think 499 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: there was just so much heart and energy that I 500 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: poured into that coming off the heels of that experience 501 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: that I did have being published, and I hope that 502 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: it inspires women to realize that, you know, they've got 503 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: to give themselves the permission that they think they need, right, 504 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: Like you've got to just figure out like how to 505 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: do it, how to move forward and not lead on 506 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: anyone else to pick. 507 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: You one hundred percent. And yes, that is definitely Like 508 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: I could feel the energy coming out of Gala on fire, 509 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: and I love how like you turn that around so fast, 510 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: Like I remember you talking about it and then it 511 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: was out and I was like, yes, I love how fast. 512 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: That process was, and I think it's so interesting. 513 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: Like you said, you really came full circle, like you 514 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: at the start your self publishing and all you wanted 515 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: to do was have a publisher and have that book 516 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: deal and you know that book signing and those book 517 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: parties and that sort of thing, and then you realize 518 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: that you didn't actually need that, And I think that 519 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 2: is It's huge. And I love that you share the 520 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: journey with your audience and us. I would love to 521 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: pick your brain about on on the RNC pod. We 522 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: love giving actionable tips to our audience and so I 523 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: would love for you to give advice to the listeners 524 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: who are possibly facing judgment for wanting to pursue a typical, 525 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 2: you know, risky path like giving up a solid job 526 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 2: or a quote unquote safe job to pursue a dream, 527 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: much like me and you did after leaving corporate. 528 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: What advice would you give them? 529 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: So you need to start with a crystal clear vision. 530 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: You have to know exactly what it is that you 531 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: want and where you're going, and you've got to be 532 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: really conscious of who you share that vision with. You know, 533 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people like to share 534 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: and like to do what I call pull different people. Right, 535 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: do you think I should do this? Do you think 536 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: I should quit my job? Do you think I should 537 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: start this business? You're going to wind up just finding 538 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: yourself in a worse place than you were before. Your 539 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: head is going to be spinning. I made this mistake 540 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: when I was first, you know, getting ready to leave MTV. 541 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: So be really cautious of who you share this dream with. 542 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: Maybe pick one or two people that you're going to 543 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: bounce these ideas off of that you really trust, you know, 544 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: someone to share the vision with. I think it is 545 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: important if you can find at least one person to 546 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: share with, So create that vision really, like, you know, 547 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: pick your team so to speak, right, like you know, 548 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: your inspiration motivation team, and then set small goals. You know. 549 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: One of the things I love about coaching is inspiring 550 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: my clients to pick small goals and stick with them 551 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: and let those goals build momentum. So when I was 552 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: leaving MTV, I knew that I wanted to hit a 553 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: certain income goal for myself, and I started small. So 554 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, Okay, I want to make an 555 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: extra five hundred dollars this month. Okay, the next month, 556 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: Let's see if I can make one thousand dollars. A 557 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: month after that? Can I make two thousand dollars? You know? 558 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: And figure out how you're going to make it happen. 559 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: What are the revenue streams you're going to bring in, 560 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: what's your plan? You know? So when you see yourself, 561 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, on this plan, and when you see yourself 562 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: hitting those goals, I think that really builds the confidence 563 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: to know that you can do whatever you want to do. 564 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: I think taking action is probably the most important thing. 565 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: So even if that action for that week looks like 566 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: making a phone call to someone or asking someone for 567 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: coffee to see if you could chat with them about 568 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: something or pick their brain, or like just taking a 569 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: half hour for yourself and taking a journal and writing 570 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: out what that vision looks like for your future. But 571 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: staying in motion. I think the worst thing we could 572 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: do is just stay in our heads and start to 573 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: over analyze. You know, it's the term analysis paralysis when 574 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 1: we start overthinking things. So just commit to action and 575 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: realize that every action step counts. It doesn't have to 576 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: be this big, huge goal that you're working towards every 577 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: single week. As long as you're working and moving forward, 578 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: you're on the right path, and you're honestly like further 579 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: along than most people are because most people, unfortunately do 580 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: stay in their heads and they you know, I think 581 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: the saddest thing is like when people come to the 582 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: end of their life and they feel like they haven't 583 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: reached the goals they wanted to reach. So they have 584 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: these dreams they haven't you been able to make happen, 585 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: and they have regret. So keeping that also top of 586 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: mind is really important. I talked about a study in 587 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: one of my books about this. You know, this nurse 588 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: who worked with these patients at the end of their lives, 589 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: and it's called the I think it's it was a 590 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: study and I think it turned into a book and 591 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: it was called The Top Regrets of the Dying, and 592 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: the number one regret was that people felt they didn't 593 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: live a life that was true to themselves. And I 594 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: always remind myself of that story and that study because 595 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: it's just I mean, I can't even imagine feeling that way. 596 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: So whenever I don't want to work or I don't 597 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: want to take that step or create that small goal 598 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: for myself, I just really refocus and go back to 599 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: my vision and think about how I want to feel 600 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: in my life and what I'm capable of creating, and 601 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: that just gives me the strength and the you know, 602 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: the power to move forward. 603 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: I love that, and I love what you said at 604 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: the start about creating that momentum because I think, you know, 605 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: like when I get this question too, the biggest thing 606 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: I kind of trying to explain is, yeah, of course 607 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: it feels risky, and of course it feels scary when 608 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: you haven't you know, even taken that small step. But 609 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: then you just put one foot in front of the other, 610 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: and you know, it gets easier, and you have those 611 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: small winds, and then from those small winds you're able 612 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: to create momentum and get to the biggest staff. 613 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: If that makes sense exactly exactly. It really is all 614 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: about those small steps that add up. It's never just 615 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: one big move. It's just it's tedious and it's time consuming, 616 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: but if you want it bad enough, it's worth it. 617 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to chat about some of my 618 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: favorite content and two of your books that it's really 619 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: stuck with me and I think it's going to be 620 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: super valuable for the R and C listeners. So firstly, 621 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: let's chat about your book, Girl Code, which is this 622 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: idea that you talk about that jealousy is dead and 623 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: how collaboration is one of the most underrated keys to success. 624 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: Can you expand on this? 625 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, when I was starting out and I was, 626 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, coming out as an entrepreneur and had the 627 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: blog going and I was building my coaching practice, I 628 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: was working still full time at MTV. I worked for 629 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: like six out of the eight years I was at MTV. 630 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: I was what we call side hustling, right, So I 631 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: was meeting people on my journey and I was going 632 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: to events and networking events, and I was in Facebook 633 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: groups and I was noticing that there were these two 634 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: very distinct groups of women that I was coming across 635 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: other entrepreneurs. There were a lot of the women, sadly, 636 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: were very caddy and very competitive and sort of, you know, 637 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: kind of put on this front of lego. I'm all 638 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: about like lifting other women up. But when you would 639 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: actually go to the events, they wouldn't speak to you 640 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: and it was very cliquish and it just didn't feel 641 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: good to me. And then there was another group of women, 642 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: smaller group, unfortunately, but they were there and I was 643 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: meeting them along the way, and they were so just amazing, 644 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: and they were like happy all the time and positive 645 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: and encouraging, and they would introduce you to people, and 646 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, they wanted to collaborate, and I knew from 647 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: that point, I was like, I want to be with them. 648 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: I want to be with those girls. They are thriving, 649 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: they're happy, they're just their their energy is completely different. 650 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: So I made it my business to become one of 651 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: those women and to be there and to help other people, 652 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: and to look for ways to join forces and introduce 653 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: anyone I knew to someone like I'm like a super 654 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: connector like, if I know someone that I think could 655 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: help you, I'm all about it. I'm setting up phone 656 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: dates and emails like I just I don't know, it 657 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: just feels better to be that person. So girl Code 658 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: is really a manifesto about what it looks like to 659 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: come together as women, to join forces, to just completely 660 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: eradicate jealousy, to realize that it doesn't serve a purpose. 661 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: It just makes us feel like crap at the end 662 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: of the day. Nobody feels good when they're in a 663 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: bad mood and they're comparing themselves to strangers on the internet. Right, 664 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: That's never like a high VI of activity. So it's 665 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: just that's kind of the concept behind it. And I 666 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: can't even tell you, like that book is just the 667 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: one book that just people keep coming back to and 668 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: people keep talking about and reading and sharing. So it's 669 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: obvious to me that we need to keep spreading this 670 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: message as women, and I think what we need to 671 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: do is find a way to empower ourselves and build 672 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: that confidence so that we can get out there and 673 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: support someone else, because I think the only reason why 674 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: people are jealous or are envious or hateful towards other 675 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: women is because of fear. You know, it's a scarcity mindset, 676 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: like there's not enough for me, or I'm not good enough, 677 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to make it, so I can't let 678 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: anyone else make it. But when you realize that, like 679 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: the universe is abundant and limitless. I talk about the 680 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: term limitless looks in girl Code right, like there's so 681 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: much out there for all of us to go and grab, 682 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: and if someone else has something to me, that's a 683 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: sign that I could have it too. You know. Like 684 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm in the process right now of building out my 685 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: Vintage brand and really wanting to take it to the 686 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: next level and have a little retail space here in 687 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: New York, and I'm looking around at people with stores 688 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: and I'm so happy. Like I literally go walking around 689 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: my neighborhood and I'm like, oh my god, her store 690 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: is so cute, so excited this person just moves in 691 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: this space, or this person's opening this business. That fuels me, 692 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: Like to me, that makes me feel like, wow, it's possible. 693 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm next. So it's just about making that shift in 694 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: your mindset and realizing that someone else's success takes nothing 695 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: away from your own, if anything, use that as a 696 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: catalyst to inspire yourself. 697 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I absolutely love this so much. And it's funny 698 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: because just the other day on my Stories, I got 699 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: a question. I was doing one of those Q and 700 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: A question things and I got a question and as 701 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 2: someone was asking about how how do you not feel 702 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: competitive with you know, other women in the same space 703 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: and recently not recently, it was a good year ago, 704 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: but I did a podcast tour where I did some 705 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: live events and I did it with another podcast and 706 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: we became such good friends and you know, toured together 707 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: and it was amazing, and I explained, I put up 708 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 2: a photo of me and the other podcast touring together, 709 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: and I explained, you know, I don't see other people 710 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: in this space as competitors, like there is room for 711 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 2: all of us. And so I love that that book 712 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: is just all about that. And then you live your 713 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: life like that too. 714 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, I love that you did that. That's so 715 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: awesome and it probably felt so good to be around 716 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: other people who are like minded, Like it's a good 717 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,479 Speaker 1: feeling to connect with people who are doing cool things. 718 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: It's just to me that like fuels my creativity. 719 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 2: One hundred yeah, one hundred ten percent and then now 720 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: we like, we're such close friends and we talk all 721 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: the time. So yeah, it created such a beautiful relationship too. Okay, 722 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: So moving on to go on fire, how to choose yourself, 723 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 2: burn the real book, and blaze your own trail in 724 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: your life and business. Yes, you can definitely feel your 725 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: energy in this, and I absolutely love it. One of 726 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: my favorite chapters in this book. And we're kind of 727 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: touched about this at the start, but I really really 728 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: want to touch on this because I yeah, it's one 729 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: of my favorite and I think the listeners will absolutely love. 730 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 3: Your chat on this. 731 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: So one of my favorite chapters is stop waiting for 732 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: the title and crown Yourself. Could you tell us more 733 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: about this concept? 734 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that really is just about knowing that you 735 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: deserve to live the kind of life you want to live, 736 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: and you have what it takes already. I think we 737 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: assume that other people have more connections, more talent, something 738 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: else that we lack. Right, We constantly compare ourselves to 739 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: go saying earlier, and we're talking about girl code concept 740 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: and we wait, We let things pass us by, We 741 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: let opportunities pass us by when we could be actively 742 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: seeking out ways to do the things that we want 743 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: to do and be creative and put ourselves out there. 744 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: So choosing yourself, crowning yourself is really just about knowing 745 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: that you have what it takes. You know, it's exactly 746 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: what I did when I became an author, and it 747 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: takes time. You know. It's one of those things where 748 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: you really have to remind yourself of who you are 749 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: every single day. You know, I didn't call myself an 750 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: author for years. I felt weird calling myself an author, 751 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: and finally I was like, no, I am. I've written books. 752 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: So if you're thinking of starting a blog, you are 753 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: now a blogger. If you love taking photographs, you're now 754 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: a photographer. You know, you've got to get in the 755 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: energy of the woman that you want to be, and 756 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: you have to do it. Be like, start before you're ready. 757 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, you figure it out as you go along. 758 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: I think we wait for everything to be perfect. Sometimes 759 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: it's never perfect, and the messy stuff is where the 760 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: magic is. So when you crown yourself, you know, you 761 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: put it out there to the universe, like this is 762 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: who I am, and this is what I'm creating and 763 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: what I'm building, and I'm worthy of doing this now. 764 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 3: I love that. 765 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: I love what you said about the messy stuff creates 766 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 2: the magic. 767 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 3: So true. 768 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So, and another great chapter I absolutely love is 769 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: your chapter that says what are you available for? And 770 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 2: you talk about this often even in your podcast and 771 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: on social media. Can you tell us more about how 772 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 2: you set energetic boundaries in your life and why this 773 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 2: is so important? 774 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: Yes? So, you know, everybody in this world is having 775 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: a different experience, even if they're seemingly living, you know, 776 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: the same kind of a life. You know, people that 777 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: live in the same town, people that have the same career, 778 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: whatever it is you're going through. Let's take even COVID 779 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: for an example. Everything the world is going through right now, 780 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: but you will have a different experience based on your boundaries, 781 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: based on the energy that you're available for, based on 782 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: the things that you put into your mind, what you consume, 783 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: you or who you are around, what you speak about 784 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: you know. So for me, one of the questions I 785 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: love to ask myself in the morning, and actually a 786 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of my clients do this too, is like what 787 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: am I available for today? And what am I unavailable 788 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: for today? So you know, you may wake up in 789 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: the morning and say you know, I'm unavailable for stress, 790 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm unavailable for anger, I'm unavailable for people draining me. 791 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: And that's a powerful affirmation, right Like, just to set 792 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: that tone and understand and remind yourself that you control 793 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: your reality and you are responsible for your energy and 794 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: the experiences that you have in the world, and not 795 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: only the experiences you have, but how you interpret them. 796 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: You know, I have been through a lot of struggle 797 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: in my life, like most of us have. We've all 798 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: had our challenges, and whenever I'm going through those challenges, 799 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: I just remind myself, like, there's two ways to see this. 800 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: This is either happening for me or this is happening 801 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: to me. And when I think something's happening to me, 802 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: that's more of a victim mindset, right Like, I'm never 803 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: going to get out of this. This is always going 804 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: to be a struggle, This is always challenging for me. 805 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: But if we realize, like this is happening for me, 806 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: this is helping me grow, this is helping me evolve, 807 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: this is helping me change. I think that to me 808 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: is how you create a good energy. That's how you 809 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: get yourself from that place of feeling victimized, feeling down, 810 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: feeling low vibrational. That's how you move into that space 811 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: of feeling empowered. You know, So look at every situation 812 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: in your life and ask yourself, like what am I 813 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: available for today? Am I going to have a great day? 814 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: Am I available for thoughts of positivity and optimism and 815 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: hope and creativity and fuel and you know, a sense 816 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: of knowing that I'm in control? Or am I available 817 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: to feel like garbage? Am I available to feel like crap? 818 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: Because whatever you open yourself up to, you will experience 819 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 1: in your life. So just try to be as you know, 820 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: as intentional about it as you can. It really makes 821 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: a big difference. 822 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 3: I love that so much. 823 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: And like I was saying, off egg Cara is your 824 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: work was definitely the first time that I realized that 825 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: you know, energetic boundaries and being intentional with your time 826 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: and energy is an actual thing and it is so 827 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: life changing. 828 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: So thank you for touching on that. 829 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, even with people right like like yes, 830 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: being aware of who you're talking to and the conversations 831 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: that you're having. If you realize, if you notice that 832 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: every single time you talk to a certain friend you 833 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: feel drained, afterward, you know, you've got to really take 834 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: that into consideration and maybe limit the time you spend 835 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: with that person, or maybe don't respond to their text 836 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: messages every single time they try to talk to you. 837 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: Maybe we turn off a little bit from them, take 838 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: a little break. It's not selfish to do that, you know, 839 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: it's necessary to protect your peace. 840 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 2: M Yeah, and so often you're so optimistic, and I 841 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 2: love that you always talk about shifting into a higher vibe. 842 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 2: I would love to know what are your ways that 843 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 2: you personally shift into a high vibe that you find effective. 844 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's a great question. You know. There are such 845 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: so many little things you can do to feel better, 846 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: So think about like what makes you feel good. For me, 847 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: it's music, putting on a playlist that I love, getting 848 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: dressed up, you know, I think being home. I work 849 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: from home, so making sure every single day that I 850 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: get dressed up, I put on some jewelry, having a 851 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: cup of coffee, like anything that feels comforting, anything that 852 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: makes me feel good, going for a walk outside. I 853 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: think it's so important to shift your environment as often 854 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: as you can, especially when you're feeling down. I mean, 855 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: it changes you on a cellular level. Right, when you 856 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: physically move your body, you see new things, you have 857 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, experienced new things. So something simple as taking 858 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: a walk, going for a workout, going for you know, 859 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: ride on my peloton, or doing some stretches, just like 860 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: having a go to almost like a little toolkit for yourself, 861 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: so to speak, right, like a little like set of 862 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: things that you know work for you. Everybody's different, so 863 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: for you know, for anyone listening now, like, just think 864 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: about what are the things that make you feel good? 865 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 1: And I always write down. I love doing this. It's 866 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: in some of my workbooks, writing down a low vibelist 867 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: and a high vibel list what are the things that 868 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: make me feel like garbage? Right, And when you're in 869 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: the moment, write it down. Keep that little journal with you. 870 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: You're having a hard day, ask yourself, like, what happens 871 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: today that's making me feel this way? What are the 872 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: things that make me feel blah or low vibe? And 873 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: what are the things that make me feel good? So 874 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: when you're in those good moments, like you'll know you'll 875 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: be able to go to them to kind of pull 876 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: yourself out of it the next time. 877 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 3: I love that. 878 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 2: So simple but so effective, so I want to switch 879 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: gears and end on a topic I'm very passionate about 880 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: and I love speaking about. I love talking about manifesting. 881 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 2: And I know that you're big manifestor yourself. And something 882 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: that I love about you is you know you can 883 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 2: be this boss babe, and you're an entrepreneur and you 884 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: have this successful business and you're an author, but also 885 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: you are super intentional and you know spiritual and you 886 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 2: do both and I absolutely love that. Can you kind 887 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: of chat to us about how you use manifesting within 888 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: your business and your goals and what are some simple 889 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 2: ways entrepreneurs can incorporate elements of this into their routine. 890 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for that. I love that you said that, 891 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: And I really do try to balance the both, right. 892 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of like balancing like the masculine feminine energy 893 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: that we all have within us. And it's hard sometimes 894 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: because a lot of times I find myself in hustle moode. 895 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm a New Yorker. You know, we make things happen, 896 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: So it could be challenging sometimes to sit back and 897 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: sort of let the universe do its work or God 898 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: or whatever you believe in, whatever higher power you know, spiritually, 899 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: but we have to really balance that and realize that 900 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: we can't always control everything. So when I'm manifesting something, 901 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: there are a couple of things that I I personally 902 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: do my little process, if you will, that gets me 903 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: to a place where I feel like I can make 904 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: things happen. So, like I mentioned earlier, writing down my vision, 905 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: getting clear. The universe loves clarity. So the clear you 906 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: can get about what you want, and the more you 907 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: can picture it in your mind. One of the things 908 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 1: I love to do is almost picture something happening like 909 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: a movie in my mind, you know, So like picturing, 910 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: like if you want something to happen in your business 911 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: or in your life, imagine it happening. And I love 912 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 1: to do this before I go to sleep at night. 913 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: And I think that that's a really powerful time because 914 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: you're sending a message to your mind, right you're closing 915 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: out your day with these images, and subconsciously, when you 916 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: go to sleep, your brain is going to work that out. 917 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna see that as truth, and it's going to 918 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: find a way to make that happen. So writing down 919 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: your vision, visualizing it, picturing it in your head like 920 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: a movie. When when you're going to sleep at night, 921 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: I think is honestly one of my favorite ways to manifest. 922 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: And then setting the goals, like I said earlier, making 923 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: sure that you're working, making sure that you're taking those 924 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: inspired action steps right, because we can't just wish for 925 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: something to happen. Otherwise it's just you know, that's great 926 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: and it's wonderful to have the vision, but if you're 927 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: not showing up and doing the work and doing those 928 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, things that you need to do, those little 929 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: nudges you get like whatever that looks like for you, 930 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: that's super important. And at the same time, detaching from 931 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: the outcome. I think the hardest part of manifesting is 932 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: really detaching from the outcome. And you know, you can 933 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: think about when you order something online, like let's say 934 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: you're shopping on the internet, you buy a dress, you 935 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: order that dress, you pay for it, and then you 936 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: trust that that dress is going to get to your house, 937 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: that it's going to get delivered, and you're going to 938 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: have that dress in a couple of days. You probably 939 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: are not you know, thinking staying up at night wondering 940 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: if the dress is going to come to you, you know, 941 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: stalking the website refreshing tracking the package, feeling like it's 942 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: never going to happen. You're never going to get this dress. 943 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: You trust that it's coming. So you have to do 944 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: the same thing with your desires. You have to trust 945 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: that they're coming to you and know that as soon 946 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: as you set that intention, you create the vision, and 947 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: you show up and work for it, it's going to happen. 948 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't happen for some reason, being okay 949 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: with that outcome and knowing that it's all serving your 950 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 1: higher good. I know, for me when something doesn't work out, 951 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: like my book deal for example, that was a big 952 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: test for me in being able to manifest and detach 953 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: right like feeling like, okay, there's a bigger purpose here, 954 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: there's a reason why it didn't work out this way, 955 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: and now when I connect the dots looking backward right, 956 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm able to see it happened exactly as it should have. 957 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: So knowing that whatever is going on in your life, 958 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: everything happens in divine timing, everything happens exactly as it should. 959 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: So trust that you know, trust that and show up 960 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: every single day and know that you're doing your part. 961 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: As long as you're clear, you know you're imagining it, 962 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: you're taking the steps, and you're doing what you need 963 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: to do, and you're trusting. I think, to me, that's 964 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: just like the winning combination when it comes to manifesting something. 965 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 3: Such such a good way to explain it. 966 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: With the drastic dress example, I was like sitting here 967 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: and nodding my head as you were saying. 968 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 3: It because it's so true. Thank you so much, Kara. 969 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 2: So you have published nine books, you do so much 970 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 2: in the self development community, and you've achieved so much. 971 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 3: What is next for you? 972 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a hard question. I know. I'm not the 973 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: kind of I'm not the kind of person that plans 974 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: too too far in advance. I'm very much like, if 975 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: this feels right, if I get this like spiritual download right, 976 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: this divine download, I go for it. So I am 977 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: working on a couple of things. I'm going to be 978 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: doing another mastermind in the fall, which I'm really excited about. 979 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: I do these group coaching masterminds for boss babes and 980 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: we get together. It's usually like six or eight women 981 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: come together on zoom calls, and you know, we really 982 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: support each other. It's usually six or eight weeks and 983 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: it's all about just creating this like container of just 984 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: like excitement and support and this little sisterhood. So that's 985 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: happening for sure in the fall. I love doing those. 986 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: I am actually relaunching my blog, so that's really exciting. 987 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 1: So the Champagne Die dot com is getting a total 988 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: makeover as we speak, and I'm going to go back 989 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: to blogging. I took a break from it, and I 990 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 1: think I got a little caught up in Instagram. And 991 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 1: I love Instagram, but at the end of the day, 992 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: I think content, especially as a writer, it really needs 993 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: a home base. So relaunching the blog, giving it a 994 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 1: little bit of a facelift and getting back to blogging 995 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: is exciting for me too. And then I've got my 996 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: vintage line, dagmar Rose, and that's fun and we'll see 997 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: what happens with that, and hopefully I'll be able to 998 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: find a little space or do some trunk shows or 999 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: pop up events, you know, when things start to open 1000 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 1: up a little bit more here, and yeah, we'll see 1001 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: what else. We'll see where else the universe takes me. 1002 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: I am always open, so it's yeah, well we'll have 1003 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: to see. 1004 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 2: I absolutely love that, And like I said, you were 1005 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 2: so multi passionate. 1006 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 3: It is. It's amazing. 1007 00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1008 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 2: I y our last question, Kara, And this is how 1009 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 2: I finish out all my interviews for season three. What 1010 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: is advice that you would give yourself? And what I'm 1011 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 2: kind of looking for here is a bit of a 1012 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,919 Speaker 2: pep talk to leave the audience. So what advice would 1013 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 2: you give yourself in moments of self doubt or fear 1014 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 2: around a next step or something new? 1015 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 3: What do you tell you? What do you tell yourself? 1016 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh that is such a great question. How do you 1017 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,479 Speaker 1: just remind myself of everything else that I have done? 1018 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: I was actually it's funny you say this because I 1019 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: was just thinking this on my walk home. I was 1020 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: out this afternoon, was coming back here to do this podcast, 1021 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: and I was having those moments. I still get those moments, 1022 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: even though I write about this stuff and I teach 1023 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: about this stuff. Oh we all faced out. No one 1024 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: is immune to self doubt. But I remind myself, like, 1025 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: you've done it before. You didn't know how you were 1026 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: going to do it, but you did it, and you're 1027 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: going to do it again, you know, So lean on 1028 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 1: those moments in your life where you have pulled through 1029 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: and you've made stuff happen, and you've shocked yourself and 1030 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: you've surprised yourself, and in those moments really channel who 1031 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: you were back then, how fearful you felt, how afraid 1032 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: you felt, but you shined and you did it and 1033 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: you made it happen. So even if right now you're 1034 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: looking something you know in the face and you're like, 1035 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: I really want this to happen. I really want this 1036 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: for myself. I don't know how I'm going to make 1037 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: it happen, just know that you will. You always have, 1038 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 1: you always will, you know, and again staying true to 1039 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: the vision and staying focused and being what I call 1040 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: it best case scenario girl. Right, Like, so instead of wondering, 1041 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: oh god, what if this doesn't work, you know, what 1042 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: if it falls apart, start to get into the vibe 1043 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: of imagining like the best possible outcome for yourself, Like 1044 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: play the movie in your head of it all working out, 1045 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: Like what if this actually does happen? What if I 1046 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: actually do make it work? What if I can you know, 1047 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: start that business, you know, find that person you know, 1048 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: move to that city, whatever it is, and really just 1049 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 1: get lost in the fantasy of it. Let yourself get lost. 1050 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we forget how fun it can be 1051 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: to manifest, right, We just we imagine all the negative things. 1052 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: But manifestation is such a fun process, right, So really 1053 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: get creative, use your imagination. And when you're using your 1054 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: imagination and your mind to create those positive visions and thoughts, 1055 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: there's no room to worry, you know, you just run 1056 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: out of space for the fear. So yeah, focus on that. 1057 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing to know is that like, 1058 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: everything is possible, you know, and I think more things 1059 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 1: are possible than we even realize. So don't sell yourself short. 1060 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: If there's something you're picturing and you want it, you know, 1061 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: one of the mantras I love is this or something better? 1062 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: I want this or something better and put that out 1063 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: to the universe every single day and know that it's 1064 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: going to happen for you. 1065 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,479 Speaker 3: Amazing. That was so good. 1066 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Kara. The audience would have loved that. 1067 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 2: And so can you let the R and C listeners 1068 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 2: know where they can go to find all your amazing stuff? 1069 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: Sure? So. My blog is at the Champagne Diet dot com. 1070 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: My podcast is called Style Your Mind, and I am 1071 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: on Instagram at the Champagne diet amazing. 1072 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 2: Well, it has just been an absolute pleasure to have 1073 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 2: you on the show. 1074 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: Kara. 1075 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank. 1076 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: You so much, Georgie. This is awesome. 1077 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, guys, how bloody amazing is Kara? That 1078 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: was actually such a surreal moment for me because I 1079 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 2: have been following her for such a long time. I 1080 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 2: am obsessed with her podcast style of your Mind, and 1081 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 2: I've read most of her books. I honestly cannot recommend 1082 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 2: Girl on Fire like so much. It was such an 1083 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 2: amazing read. But thank you so much for listening, guys. 1084 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed such a stella interview for our 1085 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 2: first interview of season three. 1086 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 3: If you, guys did. 1087 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 2: Enjoy this and you like listening to the Writing Conquer podcast, 1088 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 2: it'd be amazing if you could leave. 1089 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 3: Us a review. 1090 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 2: And also, guys, we have a Facebook a private Facebook group, 1091 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: just the Rise and Conquer community. Just search Rise and 1092 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 2: Conquer Facebook community sorry, Rise and Conquer Podcast community, and 1093 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 2: you can come find us then otherwise I will love 1094 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 2: and leave you have an amazing day and I'll chat 1095 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 2: to you in our next episode. 1096 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: Bye.