1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Perth International Burless Festival is on October seven to twenty five. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: This has really become a big event on the calendar 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: each year. You can visit Perth burles Festival dot com 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: dot you for events and tickets and joining us this 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: morning complete in full outfit as well. Thank you very 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: much for doing that at this time of the morning. 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: Cul Chaos, Hello, how are you? I have to tell 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: you Clare's is very taken with your name. He was 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: tossing up whether he might change his name to Dean 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Chaos by depot Dean Chaos. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Now, when did you get into burlesque? 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 3: So? I got into burlesque at in about twenty thirteen. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: So it was one of the first kind of installments 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: of the Perth in Jetual Burless Festival. So I work 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: for a local Perth circus company called Connecticut and they 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 3: got contacted by the festival to say, hey, we would 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: love to have a bit more variety in the show. 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: Do you have any performers that would love to come 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: and jump in and have a go. And they asked me, 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: and kind of from there, I was like, if I'm 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: going to do a burless show, I'm going to do 22 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: a burlesh show, and now ten years later, here I 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: am headlining the festival that I kind of got my 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 3: start in. 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: You certainly answer the question burlesque is not just for women. Well, 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: that's more a statement, but for everywhere, le's. 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Just for women. 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: People were surprised though, aren't they. 29 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for everyone. Like, we've got a great I 30 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: like to call it boy lesk you a twist to it. Yeah, 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: there's heaps around the world, Like there's some incredible, massively 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: huge performers just as big as people like did it 33 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: on teas in the world that are male presenting performers. 34 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: You won, mister boylesque I did in twenty seventeen. 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, changed changed my whole career, like just 36 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: kind of shot me to the stars, which was amazing, 37 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: even in this small town of Perth that we have 38 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: kind of being a bit of a known name, which 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: is kind of nice. 40 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: Well with the title, do you get a trophy or 41 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: a sash or something. 42 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: I've got a crown, Oh did you? Yes, I got 43 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: a crown which is sitting on my mantelpiece right next 44 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: to my television so I get to see it every day. 45 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: Yes, So you remind me a little bit of Jo 46 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: Gray from Cabaret. He was that was he was like 47 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: the original mister boy left cortn't he? 48 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I kind of yeah based my look a 49 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: lot of that and also of my mine's gone blank 50 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: now th earl, it is so sorry for getting you, 51 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: yeah to put my makeup on. Gorgeous franken Furder the slab, Yes, exactly. 52 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: Who are we going to see at the upcoming festival? 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 2: Just a couple of the big names. 54 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: So there's myself. So there's three amazing headliners. So there's 55 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: myself from Perth House, there's Keiky Deville, she's from the UK, 56 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: and then we've also got Genus Sterling who's from over East. 57 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: So there's three three big names of burlesque to headline. 58 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 4: Would you get petrol on the way home? In full outfit? 59 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: I have? 60 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: I do everything like this. I also do drag here 61 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: in Perth as well. So I've been pulled over by 62 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: the police in full drag, which has been great. They've 63 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: asked my idea. I like, I can give it to you, 64 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 3: but it's not gonna look anything like Yeah, it looked 65 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: just slightly different. Yeah McDonald's drive through. They hear the 66 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: voice and then you got to the window, They're like, oh, 67 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: and then you can see the other people that work. 68 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: They're run past the window because they've just radioed everybody 69 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: that someone literally just like like you're allowed to say hello. 70 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: Highlighted Yes, exactly, the petrol exactly. 71 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: I see you run a workshop as well. 72 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: Yes, it is happening Wednesday, the nineteenth of October. 73 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: Yes, what what happens there? 74 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: Is it a burlesquecause it's sort of it's a lessoning confidence. 75 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: So the workshop that I'm running is basically like a 76 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: branding workshop. So, as Carl Kaos, I'm really known for 77 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: kind of my branding, so I kind of always have 78 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: the dark smoky eye and the black lip and kind 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: of that kind of gothic edge to kind of everything 80 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: that I do, and people know me well for that. 81 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: So I thought I'd put a workshop together in regards 82 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: to branding and how you also can have a really 83 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: good branding but not be stuck in such a box 84 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: and really branch out from that but still be true 85 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: to the core of what you have. So it's also 86 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: going to be like a chat and like a talk 87 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: about that, and then also a bit of a movement class. 88 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: So I'm going to give the class a like a 89 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: bit of a movement, like a bit of a bit 90 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: of a dance, and I'm going to get them to 91 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: kind of put it in their own style and make 92 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: it how they feel like they want to present themselves 93 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: to the world and stuff like that. 94 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: I just want to know how to do a smokey are. 95 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: That I'll teach out so good, so good, and fundamentally 96 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 3: the actual performance. 97 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: How different is I think if you think of the 98 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: female performers in burlesque, and they quite often bucks and 99 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: women than that from male performer, how different is the 100 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: movements in the style? 101 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: It's kind of however you make it, Like even myself 102 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: I do. I like to really go on that androgynous 103 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: kind of way of performing, so be really quite masculine. 104 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: Like I have a number that I like to call 105 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: Leather Daddy, which I glue on a mustache and is 106 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: really inspired by Tom of Finland. And then I also 107 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: do a number in like a blue Suit, where I 108 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: take the blue suit off and then I put a 109 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: pair of six inch heels on and I start doing 110 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: backflips and really quite slow in sultry with it. So 111 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: it's kind of however, there's no box at all. You 112 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: can really make it however you want to make it. 113 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: Burlesque have the best names, absolutely hands down. I'm just 114 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: having a list. A look at a list of a 115 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: couple of them online. I love Venus, Demila Brigida. That's 116 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: a good one, red haired hopper for those you know, 117 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: early Hollywood gossip Columbus lovers. 118 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: What what would be a good burless name for us? 119 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: So I was I was having a think about this. 120 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: So Clarzy, because you've got Claresy, you've got the Sea 121 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: so and for Carl Chaos, I've only introduced you to 122 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: the family of Chaos absolutely, so I thought I would 123 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: change the sea to a K because it's branding and 124 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: it's the same as mine. And I think, I don't 125 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: call you Claesy von Chaos. Add you to the family. 126 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, ok. 127 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: And then Lisa Shaw, so I thought, sure, what have 128 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: you got in your name already? So I kind of 129 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: thought beachy, that kind of vibe, So I went some 130 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: of the Shaws sorry. And then because you and your 131 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: voice as well on radio is like so happy and 132 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: so bright, so I thought, sum are really warming, really comforting. 133 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: And then we'll have to put together a show. 134 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: See. I thought, sure thing, but that's too obvious. 135 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: That can be your that could be your tagline. 136 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 4: Tyson Fury, but that's been taken by a boxer. 137 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: No, you've got lovely to meet you. 138 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 139 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: Thanks again for looking so gorgeous. 140 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 3: Just another day in the office. 141 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 4: Well, if you're at a macas drive through or a 142 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 4: petrol station in Perth, look at you can't 143 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: I'll be there.