1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast Ninni Wards. A 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: court in Sheffield has ruled that calling a man bald. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Is sexual harassment. No, I'm not junking. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Three judges overseeing the case, each suffering from hair loss, 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: concluded that using the word balld to describe someone is 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: a form of discrimination. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: And look, mate, I couldn't agree more with them. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: Hang on with discrimination maybe, but sexual sexual harassment, sexual harassment. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: Tony Fenn, who was fired from the British Bug Company 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: in May last year after nearly twenty four years in 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the job, claimed that he was sexually harassed because people 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: were calling him bald. 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: Sorry, that is ridiculous. 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: One particular judge suggested that calling a man bald is 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: the same as remarking on the size of a woman's breasts. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: Oh, he's right off there. I think you all agree 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: that he's right off there and that judge is bald. 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: Yet all three just obsurd So then, so what's so? 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: Hang on? 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: So you can't call what's the precedent here? 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: Will I give you about it? It's all a bit 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: of fun. Give me a agreement. You talk about my 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: ratty legs is a bit of fun between mates. 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: So is there a serious precedent here, though. 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: Well they rule. They ruled that a sexual. 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: Harassment in more court, in like a serious court, so 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: in a serious. 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: Court, in an actual court. 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: I think the argument here is, if you really want 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: to get down to it. They from what I can understand, 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: they were saying that there is a connection between the 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: word bald and that being a characteristic which can only 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: be associated with one sex, which is true. 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: Hence it's sexism. That's what they said. 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 3: Women can go bald. 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: You're preaching to the quiet as a fall man. 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm not on their team, but I would like to 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: defend the baldies right now. 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: Give it to me, Pete. 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a bald man doing his thing, isn't he? 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: He is real the pain he's here. He is bit balls, 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: a bald man miss some. 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: World wine, struggling, struggling against the weight of oppression, sexist 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: dogs targeting us baldies out there. 45 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: Travolta also bald. He's very bald man. Hears a two pad. 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: But the point is I want to protect the baldies 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm feeling for the ballies. And if 48 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: you're out there, if you're a bald man, like me 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: if you're a bald bastard, if you're a bowling ball 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: on legs, give us a call. 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: Thirde and one oh six five. Are you struggling with 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: a bit of criticism? Are you copying it? 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: So? 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: Have you been discriminated against because because you're bald? Baldi 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: is anonymous? 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: Thirdeen one oh six five give us a bellue, baldies 57 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: out there. 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: I want to get a round you. 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: I want to hear you, I want to feel you, 60 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: and let's share in the pain together. 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: We'll do it up next on William Wood. 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: If you're bald, If you're bald and people call you 63 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: names because you are bald, or you feel like society 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: is against you because you're bald, thirty one and sixty five, 65 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: give us a call. 66 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: We're opening up a bit of a. 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Bear and bald oh hone right now bearing your baldness 68 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: live on the air thirty one and sixty five because 69 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: a court in the UK has ruled that calling men bald. 70 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: Is sexual harassment. Totally don't know. That's a wild story. 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: That's a wild story, woards. 72 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: But look, I feel I often feel attacked by you, 73 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: I feel harassed by you. 74 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: I'm going bald and with my hair. Yeah, I very 75 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: minutely disagree. Disagree, disagree. 76 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: When we're interviewing Liam Gallagher very recently and you joined 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: forces with him with Oasis front man Liam Gallagher one 78 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: of my superheroes. 79 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: Imagine how that made me feel. 80 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: If I lost my hair, you'd never seen me on 81 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: the stage again, because there's no place for baldness in 82 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: rock and roll? 83 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: Is that true? 84 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? Mate, No, listen, I love a dance. 85 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: At this point, I should tell you I am actually 86 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: boldly so yeah, but you're not a rockstar while you're not. 87 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, that hurt me, that hit me? Sorry, well yeah, okay, 88 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: fair enough. Peter Garrett's a rock star. He's a bold man. 89 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: Kill me, Peter. He's a great rockstar. He's a great 90 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: rock talk not fairer talk. Also a great minister for 91 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: the environment. 92 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: At one stage, you'll say, this is another time you're 93 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: teeing me up and cracking me for being bald. 94 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: Have listened to this one. I just want you to 95 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: make these statements more beautiful. I grow a beard to 96 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: cover my baldness. Okay, thanks for that. I love this song. 97 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: Feels like the winds in your hair. You're bald. It's 98 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: just a nice memory for me. Bro, My greatest fear 99 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: is losing my hair. Did you know Will was bold? 100 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: But I didn't know. 101 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: If he did it, you know himself, for it was naturally. 102 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: He deliberately gave himself mal patent baldness. 103 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: Sorry he's still laughing. 104 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: You're still laughing. You know, I can't change this. This 105 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: is how I am on board. 106 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: You can take the pills. I'm not taking things. I'm 107 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: not taking I'm not doing it. 108 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So look thirty one six five, because 109 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: you'd like to bear your baldness right now? Okay, Yeah, 110 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: I've opened the phone lines for a bit of a 111 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: bald is anonymous to tell us about how you've been discriminated. 112 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: John, Johnny, you're bald? I go, John, When we when 113 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: we u sledge for being bored, what do they say? Mate? 114 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: Which is great? 115 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: Your whole family is bored? 116 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: Wow the family? Mate? 117 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 118 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: Can you remember addresses any particular? What do you I mean? 119 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: Just put it away, mate, just put it away. 120 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: All those sorts of comments, John, how can you remember 121 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: a particular sledge? 122 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: Headdressers walked into the headdressers to look, you know, I 123 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: just sort of chat to them and see what their 124 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: availability is for for my wife. Yeah, And the first 125 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: thing they looked at me and they're like, oh, what 126 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: are you doing here? 127 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: And I'm like just trying to get the mists. How 128 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: dare you? 129 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 130 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: I know, it's terrible mate. 131 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for that. 132 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: Not on it would be it would actually be funny. Well, 133 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: you should actually walk into a hairdresser. 134 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: And well sometimes I do that. Sometimes I do that. 135 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: I'll get my I get my I get my stubble, 136 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: that's a I get my beard, I get my beard shape. 137 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: That's a bar. But I walk into a hair dress. 138 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: You should walk into a headdress and just sit down 139 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: and just go oh, no, something different and just say. 140 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: That'd be a really funny video. 141 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Well, you should walk into a gym and try and 142 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: do a deadlift and your legs and snap. 143 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: Now we've got alhos called. I actually got laughed at. 144 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: I walked into a shaver shop the other day and 145 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: I was looking for a new I was looking for 146 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: a beard drimmer, and the car just start laughing and said, 147 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: what for that hurt my feelings? 148 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, then that's right. So we're going to go to 149 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: al here. Al you're a bald man. 150 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been discriminated against that much. 151 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: I tell all the guys, and I spend less time 152 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: in the shower. 153 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: I enjoy being bold. 154 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hold on. 155 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: To what you can make because you can't hold you 156 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: talk about that, don't you efficiency? I don't dare you? 157 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: You do? Now? 158 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonnave you one more chance. 159 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Do you actually feel like you've repented for your baldness, 160 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: for my bald for my baldness, for your jokes on? Well, 161 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: you tell me, because he's sniggering at these people, I. 162 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: Thought, I think I still think it's quite funny amongst 163 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: friends to laugh at a bit of baldness. 164 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: That's a bit of a giggle, right, I thought you'd 165 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: say that. Well, these guys thought that was harassment. I agree. 166 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: So security bringing security. It's a baldy. How dare you? 167 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: He's not a baldy? There's a security guard. Can I 168 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: finish the show? 169 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: No? 170 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: Mate, he's you're a big guy, okay, don't open. Get 171 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: him out of here, Get him out of here. You're bald, bastard. 172 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: He's gone. 173 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: I've just had him walked out by a bald security guard. 174 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: He's bang. I didn't know he was going to be 175 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: bored though that really he was. He was, and there 176 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: was nothing going on up there. 177 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: He was. 178 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: He had absolutely nothing up the top. It was dry 179 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: as the desert anyway. He was actually rattled. 180 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: Now you're done with that, why not check out more 181 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: from Will and Woody on the Full Show podcast