1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: This is jam nation with Jonesy down to the Jonesy. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: No matter aswer the pub test raising the Damn Wall, 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: does it pass the pub test? 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Well, Dominic Perrete, our premier has vowed to raise the 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Damn Wall by hell or high water, declaring that New 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: South Wales will go alone if the federal government doesn't 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: come to the table and split the cost. One point 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: six billion dollars lots of four and lots of against. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: Give us some in a nutshell brandan. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Well, they're raising the damn war by fourteen meters, yes. 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: But what's what's the argument for it? 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Well, the argument for is you'll save all those houses downstream. 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: So for example, storm more water sixty percent would have 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: the homes in twenty twenty one wouldn't have been flooded 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: if they had that extra bit on top of the wall. 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: Some people are saying that the government should have acted 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: sooner to make sure we had some flood mitigation. But 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: what's the then who were against? 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: Well, up upstream it's a World Heritage National Park. Say 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: you'll lose trees, aboriginal artifacts, all that sort of stuff 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: as well. So it's one of those things. But having 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: said that, if they do add the fourteen meters to 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: the top of the wall. This is a flood mitigation thing, 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: so we've got flood mitigation, but we've also got catchment area. 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: So there's two good things, two dances here. So the 26 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: labor government they're saying, well, what we'll do is we'll 27 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: reduce all the water. When it's not raining, we'll let 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: water flow out, get rid of the water. But then 29 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: what happens when we have a drought for fifty years, 30 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: Then we're all drinking mud. So what they're talking about, 31 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: if they raise the wall by fourteen meters, it doesn't 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: necessarily go to be running at that capacity. It's just 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: in a situation where we have inundation of water, then 34 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: they can let that water out in time. So that area, 35 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: this is my undertaking of it, that area won't be 36 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: flooded all the time. It would it be better to 37 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: have some national park flooded or your house downstream flooded. 38 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: That's what it comes down for me, and I'm. 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: That's my vibe, all right, that's your vine. 40 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: That's my vibe. 41 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: So what's your vibe? Raising the dam wall? Does it 42 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: pass the pub test? 43 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: We need to raise it? We drink more and we 44 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: need to raise the dam to keep the water in here. 45 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: I think the damn wall should be range. 46 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 5: It has saved a lot of lights and the stopping 47 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 5: of flooding areas would be a lot better. 48 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 4: Definitely not they should not raise the wall. It was 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: intended to be that way mother nature. What is the 50 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: wall not to be built? And it's no good for 51 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: the environment, So mother nature play its course. Leave the 52 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: wall as it is. 53 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 5: No, I don't think it does. They've had a couple 54 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: of years ago they had the perfect opportunity to do 55 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 5: one point it all, get all the city out and 56 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 5: dig it deeper. Now you know, if they raised the wall, 57 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 5: it's just kind of quite further up through bring the 58 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 5: water level upstream up wire. Yes it does. 59 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 4: You know there's so many people lost homes and all 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: sorts of things in our floods this year. I think 61 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: it will help people hurting us going through that all 62 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: over again. 63 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't pass the pump test. But we also 64 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: need to look at alternatives for getting water, and we 65 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: have a lot more other areas where we can either 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 3: dam up or we can can look at our resource 67 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: for that water as opposed to raising the dam. 68 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: Dam what's the call for the pub test this morning. 69 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: We could talk about it for another hundred years, perhaps 70 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: when the next one hundred year flood comes along.