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Speaker 1: If you want to know what's happening on the local

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Speaker 1: political landscape, Katie Wolf has it covered on three sixty.

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Speaker 2: Every one is listening Mix one oh four point.

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Speaker 1: Nine, and we have got so many messages coming through

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Speaker 1: I've got a message here from Mark in TWII and

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Speaker 1: it says, Hi, Katie, my wife and I had a

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Speaker 1: meeting at a business on Kavanagh Street last week. The non

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Speaker 1: retail business actually locks their door, so you have to

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Speaker 1: is to protect staff and customers from well itinerants who

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Speaker 1: come in and threaten staff or try to steal things.

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Speaker 1: This is not an isolated case and just goes to

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Speaker 1: show counsel and government are not doing enough to look

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Speaker 1: after the community, says Mark in TWI. Oh look there's

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Speaker 1: another one here. It sees the way Michael Gonna danced

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Speaker 1: around every question you asked him. This momalling was laughable.

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Speaker 1: He would win dancing with the Stars, says that text.

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Speaker 1: We've got so many messages. I will get to all

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Speaker 1: of those. But joining me on the line right now

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Speaker 1: is the Federal Member for Solomon Luke Gosling. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Luke.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie Luke.

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Speaker 1: Firsty, we know that job Keeper obviously ended yesterday, the

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister Michael Gunner telling us on the show earlier

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Speaker 1: this morning, still around two thousand businesses as of the

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Speaker 1: beginning of March, Northern Territory businesses that were still reliant

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Speaker 1: on job Keeper around seven and a half thousand jobs.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt that this is going to have a

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Speaker 1: big impact on those businesses still reliant on job Keeper.

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Speaker 3: And he's going to have a massive impact on some

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Speaker 3: of those businesses. Katie. As you know, you've had Glenn

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Speaker 3: on this morning, but a lot of our top end

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Speaker 3: small businesses that are connected with the tourism industry in

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Speaker 3: some way, shape or form, obviously a very sad day

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Speaker 3: for them. Is really frustrating. I've spent the last two

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Speaker 3: weeks down in Canberra just calling on them to consider

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Speaker 3: a targeted approach. We all know the job Keeper couldn't

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Speaker 3: go on indefinitely, but they kept saying it was a

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Speaker 3: scalable wage subsidy program, and it is and it couldn't

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Speaker 3: go on forever, and it can't, but we put the

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Speaker 3: we put the proposal to them. But if we can

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Speaker 3: assist some businesses to get through to the role out

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Speaker 3: of the vaccine and to the dry season, even at

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Speaker 3: So it is a shame that the federal government's decided

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Speaker 3: not to do that. And just thinking of all those

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Speaker 3: businesses today and hope to try and can really get

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Speaker 3: around them, and let's save as many jobs as we

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Speaker 3: can through through working with those businesses.

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Speaker 1: Look, do you think things like the half priced flights

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Speaker 1: obviously that the federal tourism Minister Dante, do you think

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Speaker 1: things like that are really going to go far enough

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Speaker 1: in terms of supporting our tourism sector. I, like everyone, Cadie,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be helpful.

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Speaker 3: I am concerned that it's a lot of spin. When

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Speaker 3: you have a look at the initial announcement that they made,

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Speaker 3: it was eight hundred thousand fares around the country one

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Speaker 3: point two billion dollars, but that worked out at fifteen

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars subsidy per flight. So that means the total

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Speaker 3: ticket costs was three grand per flight. So what are

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Speaker 3: we doing here? Was a subsidization program for business class flights.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand any of this really, and it sounds

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Speaker 3: And we obviously all fought you in particular Cadie, to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess that's the thing, isn't it. The

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Speaker 1: Devil's always in the detail, And it's going to come

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Speaker 1: the only way that this is going to positively impact

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and everyone, I'm sure all Territorians, all your listeners

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Speaker 3: But I'm worried too that with this this subsidy program

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Speaker 3: But we should be encouraging people to come up for

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Speaker 1: Us here now, Luke, one of the things that you've

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Speaker 1: You and I have spoken about this on so many occasions,

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Speaker 1: a Royal commission into veteran suicide.

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Speaker 2: Where are things at?

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Speaker 3: It's a good question, Katie. I think again, the verdicts

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Speaker 3: in a veterans suicide. I thought what they did when

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Speaker 1: Thought to myself, do we need to waste money on

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Speaker 1: We've got to listen to what these families are saying.

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Speaker 3: We absolutely do need a royal commission Codie. And the

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Speaker 3: region is because even though the overwhelming majority of veterans Navy, Army,

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Speaker 3: So that is a massive issue and we just need

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Speaker 2: So we are running out of time. But I do

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Speaker 1: I know that there's also calls for the Purple Heart

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Speaker 1: equivalent for soldiers killed or injured in action.

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Speaker 2: What exactly does this mean.

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Speaker 3: There's an inquiry at the moment into how we should

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Speaker 3: have joined up to serve their country and get injured.

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Speaker 3: We also want to ignore knowledge people who join up

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Speaker 3: go away to serve our country and don't come home.

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Speaker 3: So we're pushing at the moment Ray Ray and Pam

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Speaker 3: of this push to get that service that Olderman's sacrifice

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Speaker 3: to the country acknowledged by the government. So there's more

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Speaker 3: to come on that, But there's an article I've just

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Speaker 3: about it. And thanks again for your interest in these

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Speaker 3: very important issues about our serving people. Katie.

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Speaker 1: Oh mate, I just think it is so incredibly important

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Speaker 1: and please keep us up to date with how you

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Speaker 2: It's something you know.

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Speaker 1: I know that we've got a lot of our serving

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Speaker 1: this issue is certainly are not being forgotten about.

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Speaker 2: It's something that's still being pushed for.

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Speaker 1: So please keep us up to date whenever there is

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Speaker 3: Will do, Katie. And it's not only about the members,

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Speaker 3: it's about their families as well, and we want to

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Speaker 3: make sure that they're ignowed and they're supported through the battle.

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Speaker 2: Yes, spot on. Thank you. Luke Gosling there Labour's member

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Speaker 2: for Solomon