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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning Satham now each to

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Speaker 1: their own. But a thing I've never understood about America,

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Speaker 1: and there are a lot of things, is the televangelists

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Speaker 1: who have spots on television ask for money and people

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Speaker 1: send it to them. I find that extraordinary. There's a guy,

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Speaker 1: a preacher, a conservative preacher called Kenneth Max Copeland.

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Speaker 2: I'll watch him in the mornings before you get in,

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Speaker 2: do you, yeah, he's on the TV.

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Speaker 1: He is worth over seven hundred and fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: He lives in a six million dollar home owned by

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Speaker 1: his church, the church he runs. He jets all over

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Speaker 1: the world in a private plane with eighteen million dollars.

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Speaker 1: He's he's Texan based. He's with a charismatic movement. But

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Speaker 1: actually before he was a born again Christian, he was

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Speaker 1: a recording artist and he had one billboard top forty

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Speaker 1: hit called Pledge of Love. Who decided as probably more

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Speaker 1: money and being a tele evangelist. Do you remember he

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Speaker 1: was on the news recently when he said he didn't

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Speaker 1: want to travel with the common folk in commercial flights.

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Speaker 1: He needed he needed people to pay for his private jet.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember this?

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Speaker 3: Yes, you said that you don't like to fly commercial

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Speaker 3: because you don't want to get into a tube with

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Speaker 3: a bunch of demons. Do you really believe that human

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Speaker 3: beings are demons? No?

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Speaker 4: I do not, And don't you ever say I did.

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Speaker 4: We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but principalities and powers.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that footage? His eyes just changed, It

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Speaker 1: just became a mad.

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Speaker 2: He was like Bob Catta talking about crocodiles.

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Speaker 1: Well, this guy, Kenneth Copeland can cure you of coronavirus

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Speaker 1: on his TV show At the moment. What he suggests

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Speaker 1: you do is you put your hand up to the

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Speaker 1: TV screen. He puts his hand towards you, and he

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Speaker 1: takes the corona from you, and then the Lord heals him.

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Speaker 1: Here's how it goes.

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Speaker 4: Put your hand on that television set. Yes, Lord, hallelu

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Speaker 4: thank you, Jesus, say it, I take it, I take it,

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Speaker 4: I have it, I have it. It's mine, It's mine.

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Speaker 4: Heal and well, amen, Amen, man hallylujah.

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Speaker 2: Can you that abcircle pro as well as simple as that?

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Speaker 1: And he has seven hundred and fifty million dollars, But

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Speaker 1: why he's curing America one person at a time, he

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Speaker 1: bet a speed up Toots

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Speaker 4: Joined the and Amanda in the morning one at one

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Speaker 4: point seven dollars him