1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: We know the Northern Territory government has said that they're 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: going to allocate sixty million dollars over the next six 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: years to install underground power in Darwin suburbs that still 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: have polls and overheadlines. If you live in an older 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: suburb you'll certainly understand, particularly if you're out without power 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: for some time during cyclone markers. Now we know that 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: the Essential Services Minister, Ever Lawla, is going to be 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: announcing further details about how the money will be allocated 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory budget. But essentially it will mean 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: that some of those older suburbs work is going to 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: get underway. And joining me on the line to tell 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: us a little bit more is the Minister for Essential Services, 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Evil Lawla, good morning to you. Good morning Cathy Minister. 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: What infrastructure are we talking about with this announcement? Is 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: it is it the lines that go into each and 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: every street or is it some of that larger infrastructure 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: in different suburbs. 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: So it is the high voltage line. So it's sixty 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: million dollars over six years and this will underground those 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: high voltage things structure. So this is the next stage. 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: The first stage obviously worked for the schools. It was 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: obviously important to make sure that our classroom stayed open 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: in the advent of a cyclone or the recovery period. 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: I just had a big storm. But this funding is 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: for the next stage, which is around the high voltage line. 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: There will then be subsequent stages with the low voltage 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 2: and then finally the customer of property connections. 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: Minister. I know some people will be questioning just how 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: far it's going to go. I know that when the 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: initial sort of announcement was made many years ago, I 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: thought it was about three hundred million that was going 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: to be spent on undergrading the powers. 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: Yes, so it will be substantial. And this is for 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: the first stage KDI, which is sixty million, which will 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: do the high voltage and power and water of its 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: size that will make significant improvements in the system. So 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: it will mean that that we less outages and the 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: return to power will be much quicker. So the low 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: voltage so will be the next stages, and then the 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: customer property connection. So the customer ones are literally the 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: ones that go from the power line into behind so 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: you can imagine how complex that is. So there is 43 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: still work to be done, but it is a project 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: that needs to be done in parts, and that's what 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: we're doing. So we'll do the next dage, which is 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: just sixty million dollars. 47 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: I know it is going to be a project which 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people will want to see happen, but 49 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be massively expensive. How many suburbs is 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: this sixty million going to cover? 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: So the sixty million dollars will cover all of those 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: high voltage lines, and there are broad range of suburbs, 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: so it is the older suburbs in the northern the 54 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: Northern Suburbs area, so you know, you're jingly, you're moyle 55 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: Ala coming back to coconut growth peraps as well, So 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: it is those original suburbs I guess of Darwin. But 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: the high voltage the work. This sixty million will cover 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: the high voltage lines. So the tender is being prepared 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: now by Power and Water that will look at the 60 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: profiles of those those lines, so you know, it's looking 61 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: at evidence such as the duration of the you know, 62 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: the outages, the density of the population around that vegetation, 63 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: the ground conditions because they've seen that with Saint John. 64 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: Saint John's is the last school to be underground out 65 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: of those nine, and what they're found is that there 66 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: is substantial rock in Stuart Park and so that has 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: delayed the work at Saint John. So yeah, there's a 68 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: lot of work to be done to get the tender ready. 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: It will be a nice big civil projects for a 70 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: territory company to roll out. But as said, this is 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: the next stage, which is the high voltage and it 72 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: will make a big impact on making sure that our 73 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: lines are resilient. 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: Minneso. Which suburbs are going to be first and how's 75 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: it going to be determined? 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: So as I said, that's the work that parent Water 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: will do through their tender process. So they'll be looking 78 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: at the data around the duration, how many outages are there, 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: what is it, you know, issues around vegetation, the density 80 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: of those suburbs or those areas. So parent Water do that, 81 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: so it probably makes it a bit fairer. Otherwise I'll 82 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: have lots of local members, you know, lobbying me very 83 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: hard to make sure their suburbs are done. But it 84 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: is around those high voltage lines, so it's across all 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: suburbs the high voltage lines rather than specifically, so you know, 86 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: I think it was around two thousand that Nightcliff was done. 87 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: That was a specific suburb. But now the program is 88 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: looking at looking at another way, which is all the 89 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: high voltage lines, then the low voltage and then those 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: customer property connections. So it's looking at it from a 91 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: different angle. Rather than going suburb by suburb, it is 92 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: across all suburbs. 93 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: And what's the timeline for Power and Water in terms 94 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: of determining which suburb will go first and how long 95 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: each suburb is going to take. 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we want works to commence in June. So 97 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: this is a budget announcement. So they're doing the work 98 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: to get the tender underway as soon as possible. We'll 99 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: get that tender out so that we're in the new 100 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: financial year we can start to to roll out this project. 101 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: How many years do you reckon it's going to take 102 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: before we do actually have all of those suburbs underground? 103 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: Because I've worked for Power and Water about twelve years ago, 104 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: and I reckon this. You know, we've been talking about 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: this for so many years. It's so time consuming and 106 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: it is incredibly hard work. 107 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, you know, I'm a politician, so 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: I can be political. But the CLP abandon the program 109 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, so Labor government did have a roll 110 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: out of that program. It was then abandoned and then 111 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: after Cycloe Marcus has been reinstated. But it all depends 112 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: on funding. So you know, our government has committed sixty 113 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: million dollars and so we're doing it bit by bit. 114 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: But there may be opportunity to get the federal government 115 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: also to commit from additional funding for this project as well. 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: And there's been talk around the resilient fund that shange 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: Phone's overseen, whether there is access for funding through that 118 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: avenue as well. So at this stage it is about 119 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: is based on where we can get the fund from 120 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: the mormn turd. To government point of view, it is 121 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: expensive and we'll do it bit by bit, but the 122 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: bank of the buck around doing the high voltage is 123 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: very positive. 124 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Well, Minister Evil all that we are going to have 125 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: to leave it there. Actually, before I let you go, 126 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: I understand that there was another announcement this morning as 127 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: well about Phinislithia miss that yeah. 128 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: So cool on Vickim. They have had their environment management 129 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: plan approved for their underground mind so they have to 130 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: put out a media release to the Stock Exchange today. 131 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: So if you have a lithium shares, it might be 132 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: positive for you, but it was from Wilster to government. 133 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: We've done the rigorous work that needed to be done 134 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: to assess the underground, the proposal for an underground mind 135 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: at poor Lithium out at the Coxtoninsula there. 136 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: When do you reckon that's all going to get obviously 137 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: the environmental approval is a major part of that process. 138 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: But when do you reckon that's going to get underway 139 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: and be operational. 140 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Well, there's lots, there's quite a lot already underway out there. 141 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: I know they have a worker's camp being set up. 142 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: They want to have local employed out there. But there's 143 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: already substantial work that's occurring out there. So this is 144 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: the green light to get moving in a much more 145 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: quicker way. So really good news is beach jobs the 146 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: territorians out there and as I said, we know the 147 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: demands look him across the Australa, across the world. 148 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: Well, Minister for Essential Services, also Environment and plenty of 149 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: other portfolios. Evia Laula, we always appreciate your time. Thanks 150 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: for chatting with me this morning. Thank you Katie, thank 151 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: you