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Speaker 1: Get a I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional overshaer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: We have got a creative on the pod today, photographer

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Speaker 1: David Higgs aka Higgsy, born in rural Country, Victoria and

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Speaker 1: now living in the Big Smoke in Los Angeles in America.

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Speaker 1: Although as you'll hear in this podcast, he's getting back

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Speaker 1: to the country and we have a little geek out

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Speaker 1: over how beautiful and stunning Montana is. But in this

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Speaker 1: chat we talk about having a creative dream and chasing

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Speaker 1: that dream in America, but also leaving it on quite

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Speaker 1: a high in Australia and then coming here and having

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Speaker 1: to really kind of like struggle and kind of cut

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Speaker 1: your teeth all over again. So this episode is for

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Speaker 1: anybody that has a creative dream. This is just a

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Speaker 1: really honest to Uzzi's to to Izz He's just having

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Speaker 1: a chat about the good times but also the rough

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Speaker 1: times of being in America and going after a dream.

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Speaker 1: I hope you love it. Higgsy, You're a legend. David

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Speaker 1: Higgs aka Higgsy, thank you for jumping on the pod.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure for people that are.

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Speaker 1: Like, Okay, who's Higgsy a phenomenal photographer? Ouzsi can we

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Speaker 1: can tell by your accent?

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Speaker 2: We'll pick that up pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: From Country Victoria.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, outside of Wangerada, about forty five kis outside of

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Speaker 3: Wang Wang.

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Speaker 1: Were straight out of the ace. So because I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm really excited to see, like talk about where

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Speaker 1: you've landed here in America. But you've got this like

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Speaker 1: country boy ye right now very much wearing a cowboys

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Speaker 1: very much. So that right now, Okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about your career. So you and I we figured

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Speaker 1: out just before we hit record. I think we met

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Speaker 1: like seven or eight years ago.

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Speaker 3: I actually do remember. It was out the front of

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Speaker 3: Morris Jones, was it really Yeah? Yeah, because it was

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Speaker 3: because my studio was around the corner. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 3: I was with Nick Davidson and we were going from

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Speaker 3: We're going to get coffee.

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Speaker 1: That would be that tracks, Yeah, good old parand coffee.

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Speaker 1: Do you miss Melbourne.

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Speaker 3: Coffees absolutely, I mean as allays really improved and like

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Speaker 3: obviously it's taken off here a lot, like you know,

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Speaker 3: the Aussie cafes and stuff, so I don't miss it

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Speaker 3: that much anymore. Figured out your favorite Yeah yeah, but

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Speaker 3: it can be very hit and miss.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what for me? So I'm I love

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Speaker 1: to drink black coffee, and I went and ordered a

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Speaker 1: long black.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, about six months to work out too, because I

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Speaker 3: drink americanos as well.

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Speaker 1: So you want to America. I've actually got a coffee

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Speaker 1: present for you. I just remembered lovely. So okay, you're

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Speaker 1: in melvs. You're I feel like you really in Australia

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Speaker 1: kind of like built yourself right up, Like yes, I

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Speaker 1: remember you actually having a studio, You're You've shot like

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Speaker 1: so many let's just stick to Australia for a sec,

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Speaker 1: but so many iconic Aussies Steph Claire Smith, Ruby Rose,

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Speaker 1: like big Guns, Finchy. I saw you did Finchy recently.

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Speaker 3: That was that was really lovely to do that here

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Speaker 3: actually for Women's Health in Australia. So we had a

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Speaker 3: cover shoot here with Rag which was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's really nice to go through the journey to be

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Speaker 3: especially to like such an iconic magazine which was you know,

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Speaker 3: that was always something I wanted to do when I

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Speaker 3: quite interesting. And since then we've shot another cover which

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Speaker 3: I can't really talk about talk about just yet. That'll

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Speaker 3: come out a couple of months. But yeah, Australia was

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Speaker 3: really good for me to start. I didn't really like

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Speaker 3: I studied three years of photography in Melbourne, but I

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Speaker 3: kind of just followed a path that was put out

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Speaker 3: I was sort of started in sports photography. Yeah. Then

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Speaker 3: he kind of pushed me into doing his first ever campaign.

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Speaker 1: How interesting that that's what got you into the and

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is a bit more fun than like what

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Speaker 1: And if I asked you today, would you describe yourself

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Speaker 3: when I moved here. I got my agent, Matt here,

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Speaker 2: Impressed by what's familiar to him.

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Speaker 3: And I could give you a photo of some perfect

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Speaker 3: are versus a photo of a celebrity against the white wall.

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Speaker 3: They're always going to be like, oh my god, you

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Speaker 1: I started to make a little list. I know I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even be hitting like a quarter of them, but like,

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Speaker 1: and I'm probably going to say half of these names

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Speaker 1: wrong because I'm I'm a face person, not a name.

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Speaker 1: But Dylan McDermott, Yeah, did you we like, holy shit,

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Speaker 3: He was really cool too, very Yeah. I think the

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Speaker 3: word gravitask probably applies to him. Yeah, he's as cool

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Speaker 3: as you would expect him to be. Really, I love,

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Speaker 3: like really really really suave and in control, but like polite,

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Speaker 1: And then of course is it Lucas brav Luca, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: He's absolute gentleman and he is as good looking and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so hang on. So I feel like I'm not

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Speaker 3: I was shooting five six times a week doing a

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Speaker 3: very much like, oh, Higgs, you've thought it out for us, Higgs,

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Speaker 1: Do you find? Also, then you get like there were

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Speaker 2: It's you know, it's you can be more fluid.

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Speaker 1: Well you probably know this. I've written health books yep,

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Speaker 2: You know what you're going to get and what was characters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also like I think there is such an

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Speaker 3: I look, if there's been a couple of times someone's

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I'm going, hey, what do

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Speaker 2: What am I telling other people how to relax? Like

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Speaker 2: do that? Do that? Do that?

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Speaker 1: Totally? But I think as well, like all your insecurities

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Speaker 3: Just crop on up and you're just like, because the

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Speaker 3: whereas yeah, if you're moving, no one notices that your

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Speaker 3: It looks great, and yeah, that's I think that's why

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Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. Okay, So I want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about beautiful America because we're both Green card holders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was a little lucky than you.

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Speaker 1: You were, so to see one hears and I had

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Speaker 3: eight days of the ninety day visa.

438
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,720
Speaker 1: Oh good on that there?

439
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great, And like you they would get

440
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,240
Speaker 2: off the phone and I'm going, oh, so was that

441
00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 2: was that something?

442
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,480
Speaker 3: I was like, ah, you know, maybe, and you kind

443
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,680
Speaker 3: of get to that stage where you just kind of

444
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 3: stopped saying it because it's you don't want to them say, nah,

445
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,280
Speaker 3: it didn't happen. Yeah, So you've got to get a

446
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,439
Speaker 3: thick skin about it, and you've got to really ride

447
00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,479
Speaker 3: ride a wave of excitement disappointed excitement, disappointment, and it

448
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,400
Speaker 3: will still like it'll happen, like even you know, I've

449
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,399
Speaker 3: been here five and a bit years now, and my

450
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 3: first couple is I mean, my first six months were

451
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,399
Speaker 3: really really tough.

452
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he said two jobs that were Aussie jobs. Yeah.

453
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was really really really quiet.

454
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 3: And then you know, I had a moment where it

455
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 3: got to a stage where I remember waking up one

456
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 3: night in bed and I worked out I didn't have

457
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 3: enough money to stay here, but I didn't have enough

458
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 3: money to go home. And I remember I was like,

459
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 3: holy shit, I'm fucked, Like I don't know what to do.

460
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,480
Speaker 3: Like if I wanted to leave tomorrow or tonight, I can't.

461
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 3: I've got no money. But the thing is, I don't

462
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,199
Speaker 3: have enough money to pay the rent next week or like,

463
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 3: and you've just got to like really stick it out.

464
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 3: I was lucky, you know, my family helped me out there.

465
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 3: Like I called my brother in Barcelona and he was

466
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,719
Speaker 3: really good. And you know, I called on my family

467
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 3: about it and got a couple little short term loans

468
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,919
Speaker 3: and ket lights on for a minute and you've just

469
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,760
Speaker 3: got to write it out and once it gets there,

470
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 3: like you'll just find the next level of goal.

471
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 1: Totally. There's there's an amazing actor. I listened to a

472
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 1: podcast with his name's Glen Powell. He plays Hangman him

473
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 1: Tom Run. Sorry boss if you're listening to this. He

474
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 1: knows I have a massive crush on Hangman. But he

475
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 1: said ALA's designed to kick you out. Ye. It's literally

476
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 1: like they want you, not want you, but alas like

477
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 1: no one cares if you go home with the tail between.

478
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 1: It's almost designed for that. And he talked about the

479
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,959
Speaker 1: importance of having the best support network, and your family

480
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: seemed like champs. I've just stalked them all over the

481
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,719
Speaker 1: last three months as you've been taking them through Montana

482
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: and giving them this amazing tour of Americana. But and

483
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 1: for me as well, having my boyfriend who's in Barron Bay,

484
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 1: but he's my support network. Like a day doesn't go

485
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Speaker 1: by where I'm like not like shit, I didn't get

486
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 1: this audition. I put my do you know the first

487
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 1: audition I got when I got to America, I should

488
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Speaker 1: you know? I saw I'm an agent. I thought my

489
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Speaker 1: life was May I get the audition and it's like

490
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: Kristen Bell type. I was like, oh yeah, Comedican.

491
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 2: I feel like that. I can see that.

492
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm reading the audition and I'm like, oh fuck, this

493
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: is for Vagina deodorant. And I had to do an

494
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: ad for Vagina deodorant for my first round. I had

495
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: to look down the barrel of the lens and go,

496
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 1: I'm your Fanny godmother, you know somewhere. How do you

497
00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: get it?

498
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Speaker 2: Mate?

499
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: I did it in American dialect that I was like,

500
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: I have to this in Australian. It's too funny like

501
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: an Aussie accent. Oh mate. And I was just like

502
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: the fall from Grace, that moment of being like, I mean, hallay,

503
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: I've got an age.

504
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not even like Australia you could feel

505
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 3: like that's a fall from Grace.

506
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 2: Here, it's like you're like.

507
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're the Fanny Grodmother and like that's

508
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: that's the free drink at the bar. Yeah, like someone's

509
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 3: taking your photo because someone is going to recognize that. Like,

510
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: I think one of the beautiful things about America and

511
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 3: Americans in general is their level of support to others,

512
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 3: Like the compliments you get from a random person on

513
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 3: the street. Every time I go through tsa pre check

514
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: they complain sorry, security at the airport. They always compliment

515
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 3: me on my hat every time I reckon ninety cent

516
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 3: the time and be like, oh nice hat man. You're

517
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 3: like thanks, oh yeah, yeah, Like you know, you get

518
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 3: you get a random person, Like you'll be working out

519
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: in the street and someone will drive past and just

520
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: beat their horns like yeah, get it man, and you're like, okay, cool,

521
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 3: like we're good.

522
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: Like every acting class I've done in Los Angeles, they'll

523
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: cheer for you to go up.

524
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: And if I heard you were talking and linking about

525
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 3: it on the one, needed would link and it was

526
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: the same thing.

527
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: It's like here.

528
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 3: Everyone will pat you on the back and say how

529
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 3: good it is and say how good you are, and

530
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: it's it can be really uplifting.

531
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 2: You've got to again put the bullshit meter on.

532
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can like there's no real I mean yeah,

533
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 3: like you're doing that wouldn't have been a bad thing. No,

534
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean that would have been like, oh, that's awesome,

535
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: Like you know, I just I just finished watching The

536
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 3: Bear and the It's amazing. But the dorky brother in

537
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: law is the dorky dad from the Progressive ads Progressive

538
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: car Insurance. It's like when you turn into your parents

539
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 3: because you go like, hecause you got home insurance. Yeah,

540
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: and he's that. So it doesn't like being on the

541
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 3: AD doesn't make you just the ad actor. It's like, no,

542
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 3: that's where you go like.

543
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: Totally, you're inspiring me. Now, okay, So has there been

544
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: any moments because like you, like we touched on the start,

545
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: You've shot so many greats like somebody that what's that

546
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: guy that everyone's obsessed with, Adam d Demost and Demos. Yeah.

547
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Speaker 2: I haven't actually shot Adam, Yeah no, but I've I've

548
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: worked with Sarah Yeah.

549
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is gorgeous. Either way, it's.

550
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: Stunning and absolute pleasure to work with. Really so funny funny. Yeah.

551
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: So have you had any moments where you you're on

552
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: a set or you're out on location? Should I say,

553
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, holy ship, how's this happening right now?

554
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: Other than the rattlesnake moment, because I saw on your

555
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: behind the scene you were filmed with shooting something and

556
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Speaker 1: there was a rattlesnake probably like half a meter away

557
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: from you.

558
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was. That was She'll be right. Attitude sometimes

559
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: can get me in trouble.

560
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: But rattlesnakes are full blown poisons.

561
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm aware. I'm aware. I just didn't I just

562
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: wasn't looking a rattle.

563
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to be careful about in

564
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: the desert. There's I mean, look, you mentioned you touched

565
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: on soccer before, and you know, I was one of

566
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 3: the original members of l A f C. And I'm

567
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: now doing like their merch photos of the players and

568
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: created like relationships to their players. And I know that's

569
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: not a big deal for some people, but like going

570
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 3: into the soccer is one of my things I love

571
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: to do here.

572
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: It's like, I really enjoy it.

573
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: And my girlfriend loves going going she loses her voice

574
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 3: because she screamed so loud.

575
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 2: It's just a real good vibe.

576
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: And because it's not as big as like NFL and

577
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 3: stuff like that, you know, you feel like you're part

578
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: of that community. You feel like you belong to something

579
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: in LA that's just LA is really important. So having

580
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 3: like relationships with the players now and shooting that was

581
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 3: really cool, you know, being on set with Winston Duke's

582
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: who's just one of the just the most beautiful men

583
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: you've ever come across, you know, six foot seven, six

584
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: foot eight.

585
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: You know, I I was definitely using my step ladders.

586
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: And you know, creating a really nice relationship with him

587
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 3: where like you know, we've had dinners and stuff and

588
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: like and he's just a really beautiful human being. Stuff

589
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: like that kind of It's it's always funny when you

590
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 3: think about, like, oh, that's right. He used to kind

591
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: of like drive my paddock basher down the hill to

592
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: go to the school bus, and like I was kind

593
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: of a fuck up in high school and that sort

594
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: of stuff. And now I'm kind of here doing this

595
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: thing that you know, gives me just a lifestyle that

596
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: I love, Like I I really love like the last

597
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: style I get to have now. And you know, while

598
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: the goals of what I'm trying to achieve change and

599
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: evolve and all that sort of stuff, Like if you

600
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 3: kind of take a if I take a step back,

601
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: I think about, like, Okay, cool, this is working, Like

602
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: what I'm what I'm going for is working, and we

603
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: just keep moving along. I wouldn't say I made it,

604
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: but I think if I asked myself four years ago,

605
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: I would say I have made it, But now my

606
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: goals have shifted to something different.

607
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: I think you've made it, but I also understand that

608
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: that's subjective.

609
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean creative things, you get the taste of

610
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 3: something and then you're like, Okay, let's get a bigger

611
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: taste of something, and you just kind of keep moving.

612
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 2: Along, you know.

613
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: I remember when I first got here, I got my

614
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: first apartment because I had no credit rating and self employed.

615
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 3: I think I put down eight K, which was like

616
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: I had like eighty one hundred dollars in my bank account.

617
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: And I remember I remember sleeping on the floor for

618
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: the first two weeks because I had no furniture. Then

619
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 3: I got my laptop fixed, so I didn't have my laptop,

620
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: so I was going home sitting against the wall watching

621
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: TV on my phone.

622
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: Oh my, look, honestly, you know I've said this before,

623
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: or we only see the like hero stories, like there's

624
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: stories about Chris Hemsworth living in a car.

625
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: All of them, all of them, like if you even

626
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 3: watch like Heath Ledger's DOCCO, which is something I find

627
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: really inspiring.

628
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: They don't be afraid to fall?

629
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: Is that a quote of his quote here is Yeah,

630
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: just sort of like when he's telling his mates to

631
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: surf and stuff. But you know he talks about going

632
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: and staying at Ben Mendelssoon's and like they're all just

633
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 3: squatting in there, like you know, it's just that's what happens.

634
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: You have to kind of go through that thing here,

635
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: and I think you do. You mentioned like about kicking

636
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: you out. You do see a lot of people come here,

637
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: they check in, they've got a real sick apartment they've

638
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: got to they've rent they're renting the Mercedes, and then like.

639
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: Hey, where are you? Like, oh, they've gone home.

640
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you do have to drag your ass around

641
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: for a minute, like really trying to like some days

642
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 3: going Oh if I rub two quarters together, does that

643
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: turn into a dollar?

644
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: I kin'd of need that, honestly.

645
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: I remember I rocked up to a meeting and I

646
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: just rent like a two thousand and three, right like

647
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: full on actors life, beat up, like in the pan.

648
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: I went down to start my car and I was like, oh,

649
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: it's not starting car battery stolen overnight, Welcome to Los Angeles.

650
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: But I remember I rocked up to this meeting and

651
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: I was really excited and I didn't like, I didn't

652
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: really care. I didn't really think of anything of it.

653
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: And the person that I was having the meeting with

654
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: goes humbling, isn't it Lola? And I was like whoa.

655
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: I didn't think like. I was just like, who cares?

656
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: It gets me from A to B and I don't

657
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: want to lose too much money.

658
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 3: Well absolutely, but it was just there's a very keeping

659
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 3: up with the Joneses thing he kind of got to do,

660
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: and you know a lot of people hide it, like

661
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I hit it one day. Don't remember when

662
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: I discovered the ninety nine cent store, which is.

663
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: My Oh I still go to the ninety nine I

664
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: came up with.

665
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: The stinging headaches because all I was eating was the

666
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: three three for ninety nine cent ramen packs or two

667
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: minute noodles for anyone back home, full of MSG and

668
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 3: after about a week, I was like, God, I feel like,

669
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: as what is wrong with me?

670
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: I was like finally went down there.

671
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: I was like this full of MSG, and I was eating.

672
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: I was eating two packs a day, so I was

673
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 3: spending seventy three cents a day.

674
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Of course I do love a ninety

675
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: nine shop. So people listening literally then literally like back home,

676
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: we've got two dollar shops in the reject shop. But

677
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: it's a ninety nine cents it is. It's amazing and

678
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: you can get nearly anything.

679
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: I think my cups and plates from there.

680
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, on my cleaning products but there.

681
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, town, you're not going to get any missus Myers.

682
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: But no, still.

683
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: It does the trick. Okay, this is going to feel

684
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: like a little change of pace. But I know you're

685
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: a nature kid and I have an obsession with Montana

686
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: and Wyoming.

687
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: As you should.

688
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: Well, I watched this show called eighteen eighty three, which

689
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: is the origin story of Yellow, so you've also watched it.

690
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: Of course, my story actually tracks back before yours as

691
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: to how.

692
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: We no, no, no tell me. It was because I'm

693
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: just like literally learning monologues for it, like working my

694
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: dialect cause I'm like, we're going to do a Southern

695
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: monologue today. But I just think there's something so fast

696
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: standing about the Oregon Trail and like the history, like

697
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: I figure you and I hear is permanent residence. And

698
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: I like this idea of like honoring and learning about

699
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: American history, and that's I think why I'm so drawn

700
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: to it. And also obviously nature. And the only thing

701
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: that scares me is the Rattlesnake's class in two now

702
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: already and just in La well, California, so we'll.

703
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: Just remember Montana has bears and bobcats.

704
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: But I can handle that. I've had coyotes in my

705
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: front garden.

706
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: A bear.

707
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So tell me your story.

708
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: Why are you so finally enough? It's mine's like parallel

709
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: to yours. But I go back a little bit further

710
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: to a TV show called Yellowstone, Yes, which is what

711
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: eighteen eighty three spun off, and it was about. It

712
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: was the sort of start at April last year, and

713
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: I was sitting with my girlfriend who got me to

714
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: this show that I hadn't watched, which I was very

715
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: upset about myself, because I'm a massive Kevin Costner or

716
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: as in our family Kko fan, you know, Robinhood Prince

717
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: at the Wolves, like we were literally born in the

718
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: same yeah, exactly. And I was thinking, shit, it looks

719
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: pretty good, and I was looking at it. It reminded

720
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: me a lot of home where I grew up, Like

721
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: we were up on fifty acres, we look down onto

722
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: a creek, not a river, and yeah, all that sort

723
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: of stuff.

724
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, let's have a look.

725
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: And I sort of found a block of land that

726
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: was twenty eight because that's pretty good. So we put

727
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: it in an offer and we went to Montana for

728
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: the first time. Kristin Nelly got blown off the hill.

729
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: I've got a fantastic video of that that's never allowed

730
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: to see the light of day.

731
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: It was miserable, it was snowing whatever.

732
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: But we're looking straight down into the Yellowstone River and

733
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: we've got Yellowstone River frontage. And then we looked back

734
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: to the Beartooth Mountains and on the other side of

735
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: the river is Lewis and Clark Trail, which is the

736
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: trail obviously they took to go from east to west,

737
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff.

738
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: You know, we near the Bozeman Trail all it like.

739
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: So we sort of we took a big punt on

740
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: it and decided to buy it, and.

741
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: You know, started building a house.

742
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: So I got goosebu Yeah.

743
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like everyone asked me, is like, what

744
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: was what was your inspiration? I was like Yellowstone, Yeah,

745
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: and they're like no, but really, I was.

746
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not joking.

747
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: Do you know that some of the cast have done

748
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. I wouldn't be surprised they've fully

749
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: moved to Montana. Actually, when I saw my acting as

750
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: I was like, so anything shot in Montana or Wyoming,

751
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: please put me forward for asap. And they're like, okay, yeah,

752
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: well they're doing it.

753
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: There's nineteen thirty two that there cast.

754
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know, I'm a massive Sam Elliott fan who's

755
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: got that incredible accent. But I just I love the

756
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: What I love for you is that country born and bred,

757
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: and then you've kind of found the country and the

758
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 1: nature back. And then as a creative, I think that

759
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: like and I find like, I love La but it's

760
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: a city I can I can hide Griffith Park, which

761
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: is awesome. But that's why I always end up going

762
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: back to RMBA for a little like yeah, my name's that's.

763
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: That's exactly like we we live like comfortably and modestly here,

764
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: you know, because we want to have those you know,

765
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: I have that place up there, so we want to

766
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: go up and we will ride our horses and ride

767
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: ATVs and then the winter will go snowboarding because we're

768
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: on a big hill and you know, I've just put

769
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: in fifteen hundred trees to replant the hill and the

770
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: whole house is going to be off grid, like solar

771
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: and you know, we'll have water tanks that whole thing.

772
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: It snows beautifully up there, like you know, three foot

773
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: a day. And then we'll come back to La because

774
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: that's where we need, where both of us need to

775
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: be in terms of work stuff. And you know, we

776
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: do like that sort of element of having that but

777
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: having a release from like you know, it's beautiful here

778
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: that we can go to like high end restaurants and

779
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: sporting events and you know, anything you want you can

780
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: have here.

781
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: Totally.

782
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: You can afford it, Yeah, totally.

783
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: And then you get them on Tanner and it's like, oh,

784
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: we should we forgot the toilet paper. That's going to

785
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: be an hour and a half round trip. Yeah, yeah,

786
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, I wear twenty five minutes from the front gate. Yeah, Like,

787
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: so you've got a you know, it's a different mentality,

788
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: but it's really nice to go and anytime I've taken

789
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: any of my friends there. I've really noticed that, Like,

790
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: you know, because everyone here is an actor or a

791
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: model or a photographer or whatever it is, everyone's chasing

792
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: a bigger dream, and you find people really relax and

793
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: kind of revert back to almost like they're not childlike self,

794
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: but like, you know, a much more simpler version of themselves.

795
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, sweet, Like if we have to sit

796
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: in the old truck, we'll sit in the old truck.

797
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: It's like, oh cool, Like that's all our food options are.

798
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: There's pizza or the bar. That's it great.

799
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: That is like, but then don't you think this is

800
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: going to be a bit esoterical and hippie. But don't

801
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: you think as a creative actor, model, photographer, whatever that

802
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: may be, musician, I think you need to come back

803
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: to like the essence of who you are, which nature

804
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: does that biophilia, healing power nature to then come back

805
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: to the big city and be regenerated, regenerated and rejuvenated

806
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: and who you actually are, because that's how your book work,

807
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: being so connective to who you are. Like people like

808
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 1: I want to work with Higsy because I trust him,

809
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: I feel good around him. I know we're going to

810
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: get a really good job done together. But if you're

811
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: just in La grant.

812
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, very well down, and you know you can

813
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: you can pick up some traits that you're probably not

814
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: that proud of, and because because you're trying to you know,

815
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: in LA, you've got to be the loudest us in

816
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: the room to get something done, and all of a

817
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: sudden you'll find you're just talking about yourself about like

818
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: I did this, and then all of.

819
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: A sudden, shit, I just did twenty minutes of that

820
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: on me.

821
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: So like having that disconnect where you go to a place

822
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: where no one cares who you are as long as

823
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: you pay your bill at the bar and you're not

824
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: trying to carry on too much and change the way

825
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: of life, which we're clearly not. But you can kind

826
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: of go back to being nothing and just being whatever.

827
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 3: It's like, whatever exists here, This is as good as

828
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: it gets, like make it good.

829
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: I love that. But it's really interesting. And I didn't

830
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: expect to talk about COVID, but post COVID, I feel

831
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: like it's more accepted now that people are more like, Okay,

832
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm in LA for this amount of time and then

833
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: I've got I had a really bit big actor on

834
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: the pod and she's like, well, no, I live half

835
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: in Portugal and I've got a green cart. I live

836
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: half in la and I live half in Portugal. And

837
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: I was like, so you can do this back in

838
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: the day, like even five years ago. No, no, no,

839
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: you have Yeah.

840
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: I always felt like I couldn't go anywhere just in

841
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: case the phone rang as.

842
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: Far as you go as Palm Springs, because you could

843
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: drive back and make it and.

844
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Then hope and also hope they don't call on a Friday.

845
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: Right totally, And so I do feel like the beauty

846
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: that has come out of like a really tough time

847
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: is that people are now booking jobs. You know, you

848
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: could be in Montana and get the call and they're like, Okay,

849
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: well we'll book you for next week.

850
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: Yep. Definitely, definitely.

851
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: I feel like that's one of the pros that have

852
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: come from all this. And I I'm going to invite

853
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: myself now, but I've got to visit this Montana one day.

854
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: Well, considering I'm doing all the work myself at the moment,

855
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: let's let's say March next year, about mid November. She's

856
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: pretty tough going and getting up the hill. Really you

857
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: got to send the plower through. It's yeah, because I've

858
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: heard it.

859
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: It's really windy and really cold and.

860
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: Really windy, really cold.

861
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: I've been there when it's like belted down snow and

862
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: it's beautiful, but it's you can get stuck there. So

863
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: you know, you've got to be pretty well planned. And

864
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: at the moment, you know, we're still putting in the

865
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: wiring and things like that, which I'm going up on

866
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: Saturday to hopefully get the inspector to sign off my wiring.

867
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: We'll see how that goes. It's the message, yeah, yeah,

868
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: writing few to the electrical aspector probably isn't the greatest idea.

869
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're doing so much of yourself.

870
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's multiple reasons, but it's also Montana's in

871
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: a massive boom at the moment, so getting somebody to

872
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: do something is just is really hard.

873
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: Like you're two to three months out for getting anybody.

874
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: And we got like our quote from you know, fifteen

875
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: hundred square foot house, not a big house, like three

876
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: bedrooms to bars, so just just to wire it was

877
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 3: twenty four thousand dollars.

878
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, and just as he's listening, that

879
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: would be like yeah.

880
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 3: And it's also it's in a place where things are cheap,

881
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: like Montana's like drastically cheaper than California.

882
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: There's no sales no sales tax.

883
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: You know, gas petrol is half the price, like yeah,

884
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: like you know, a whiskey at the bars two bucks,

885
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: a beers two bucks, that sort of thing. It's like

886
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: it is going back in time in terms of pricing.

887
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: So paying somebody's twenty four thousand dollars toy house is quick.

888
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: The last paying probably someone probably eighty thousand dollars here,

889
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: So it just means, you know, we do it ourselves.

890
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: And they're pretty they're pretty liberal up there with their

891
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: permits and stuff, so I'm getting permits.

892
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad that you shared a bit about

893
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: I know that it's not so much about career, but

894
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: it's like, I just think it is important to have

895
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: that thing that kind of like as a creative, fuels

896
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: your career and fuels you as a person so that

897
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: you can then, yeah, come.

898
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: Back to the big I wouldn't really start to find

899
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: myself as a photographer. It's obviously my job and I

900
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: do love doing it and if there was, if I

901
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: could do anything in the world, I would be a photographer.

902
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: But the whole point of being a photographer and doing

903
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: something like that is my lifestyle and and doing the

904
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: things in the light in my life that I love

905
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 3: and that that might be travel. That's generally it's based

906
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: around friends, girlfriend, family, things like that. That's you know,

907
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 3: that's all and also not in that order. Kristen's first,

908
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's based around like, you know, every

909
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: house that I've ever done has always had more than

910
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: two bedrooms, because it's just like what if like Laura

911
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: and Matte want to come, and like what if that

912
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: person wants to and like why why have we got

913
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: six bunk beds in the third room? And I'm like, well,

914
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: that's because what if everybody wants to? So, like I think,

915
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: you know, my, my, the reason I work and the

916
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: reason I work so hard is just to create the

917
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 3: lifestyle that I want to live. And I just want

918
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: to be out there and doing things and moving and

919
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: you know, having having fun doing whatever it is and

920
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: whatever adventure it is, whether it's going to soccer or

921
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: whether it's some bacon by the pool, or whether it's

922
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: riding horses or whatever it is, whatever the next adventure is,

923
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: I just want to be part of that.

924
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I feel like you

925
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: need to be like the go on and shoot Kevin

926
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: Costner on his ranch. We're working on that, you know,

927
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: we have we have reached out real signs. The other

928
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: one I reckon, who I am like Korea obsessed with

929
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: is Taylor Sheridan.

930
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the writer is amazing.

931
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: He's got two ranches, one in Texas.

932
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: And I think I think Boss Cranch is the one

933
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: he's got in Texas.

934
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: That's that's what his name is, the name of his

935
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: production guy.

936
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: And then I think there is something in whym maybe or.

937
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: Montana because I think a lot of that shot in

938
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Utah as well. But the one that, yeah, the main

939
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: one is like the main ranch, Dune Ranch is in Montana.

940
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Do you know that he bought all the horses that

941
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: are in the show.

942
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me. He was like, well, I want

943
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to read them anyway, And you know.

944
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: He makes all the cast come to the ranch and

945
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: do cowboy camp, so it shows.

946
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: It really does show I.

947
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: Understand the horses and respect them. We could just turn

948
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: podcast my final question for you is for young creatives

949
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: listening that are like, Okay, I've got this dream I

950
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: want to I meet a lot of young definitely young

951
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: actors or musicians and they're like, I want to go

952
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: to LA and chase this this dream. What advice have

953
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: you got for a creative that really wants to chase

954
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: a dream right, Because I do think it's tougher than

955
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: people think it's.

956
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: It is very tough.

957
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: I mean, like you touched on it before about like

958
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 3: my support systems fantastic. I've always had like my family's

959
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: always been super supportive. You know, both my brothers live

960
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: in Europe. They've been there for eight years. Like mom

961
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: and dad like, yeah, cool, go they go and visit

962
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: them they were here. If you have that, it definitely helps.

963
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: And obviously I have somebody at home. Kristin is really

964
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: really supportive. Teammates absolutely, But I think if you trust that,

965
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 3: if you think you can do it for the right reasons,

966
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: and like, if your reasons are to do it is

967
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: to be cool because you want to be famous or

968
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: something like that, it's going to be a real shit

969
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: fight and you're probably going to I mean, it might work,

970
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: but it might not work and if you fail, you're

971
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: going to fail miserably. I you know, I left Australia

972
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: with the idea of, like, if I fail, I don't

973
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: really care because I tried, because I was doing it

974
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: for reasons that that we're going to fulfill me and

975
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: not you know, I don't like you know, my reasons

976
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 3: are family, like friends, things like that. So if you've

977
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: got the right reasons and put your head down and

978
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: trying not to get distracted.

979
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: I'm easily distracted.

980
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: And as I mentioned before about the Peter Pan stuff, like,

981
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: I was pretty bad with that.

982
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: I still have that tendency.

983
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: But you came over a fair bit younger, like you

984
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: would come over what thirty one or something that's part

985
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: of the Peter Pan A.

986
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Then the peter Pan age is about for.

987
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: But you know, I think if you if you've if

988
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: you've got the right reasons for wanting to do it,

989
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: just trust that you're going to get there and like

990
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: and and just take it in steps like it doesn't

991
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: need to be get there today and then we're good tomorrow.

992
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: You know that does that can happen? We have heard

993
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: of it happening with actors and stuff like that. But

994
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: like you know there was there's going to be a

995
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: step back. But if you ride the step back and

996
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: you use that as the next step to get the

997
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: next thing and whatever, then you know it'll happen, and

998
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: it might happen exactly the way you wanted it. Like

999
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: my my path changed, Yeah, but where it ended up

1000
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 3: if I hadn't been told that when I got here, Hey,

1001
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: like here where we here's where we're going to be cool?

1002
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: Cool?

1003
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take that right, I'll buy a ticket.

1004
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: I always say to people, I mean it for the

1005
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: long game. Yeah, And I think if you're here, like

1006
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: you said those quick fixes that you mentioned that a

1007
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: rad or off like at the top, I think if

1008
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: you're here for the long game and you know, like

1009
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: you're very clear on why and your values, I think

1010
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: you will find a way. But I also agree with you.

1011
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: I don't think it turns out how you think it's going.

1012
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: If you think it's going to turn out like that,

1013
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: then you come to the wrong place. Yeah, Like, if

1014
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: you've got if you need it, if you have a

1015
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: plan where in three years it has to be at

1016
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 3: that point, with this point, with that point, go work

1017
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: in finance and go to New York and that's not

1018
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: that's not a knock on that at all. But you

1019
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: can go there, you can get a job and you're

1020
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: gonna make X amount of money, and you can rent

1021
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: that apartment and then upgrade to that and move to

1022
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 3: that and do this. I think if you're gonna come

1023
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: here and the plan has to remain the same, it's

1024
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: going to you're gonna have to be like a little

1025
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: bit fluid with it.

1026
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it. David Higgs, thanks for jumping on

1027
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: the pod.

1028
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: My absolute pleasure. Sorry I rattled on a bit when

1029
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: I get nervous, I just overtalk.

1030
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that was absolutely perfect. I wouldn't change

1031
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: a word, my friend.

1032
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you so much for having.

1033
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: Me, Thanks for jumping on. That's a wrap on another

1034
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, thank you to our guests,

1035
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. I'm a at

1036
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: yamo lollaberry. This potty my word for podcast is available

1037
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,040
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