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Speaker 1: Well, hello there, what an action pack podcast we have

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: We looked at the phenomenon of the Hok Tour Girl.

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Speaker 2: She became world famous for being interviewed on the street

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Speaker 2: and making a sexual reference. She's now the Hok Tour Girl.

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Speaker 2: She's leaning into this new fame and she's got a

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Speaker 2: new podcast called Talk to Her.

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Speaker 3: How come I haven't gone world famous because I've made

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Speaker 3: many sexual.

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Speaker 1: References on the street like Habba habber.

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Speaker 2: And four and all that happens to you is you

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Speaker 2: get tased in the.

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Speaker 3: Next going on with that, also, the tribal drum will

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Speaker 3: be beating at least ned Kelly wore a musk.

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Speaker 2: A lot of events recently that have made people go,

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Speaker 2: come on, what's going on here? Do you remember the

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Speaker 2: Willie Wonka event in Glasgow disaster? There's been a bridget

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Speaker 2: and ball in Detroit that was a disaster, and now

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Speaker 2: is American cookies which are called Crumble. People were lining

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Speaker 2: up at a new pop up store for them. But

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Speaker 2: it's all been a bit of a ripoff.

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Speaker 1: Down to the Jones.

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Speaker 3: No matter arms for the pub test salary transparency does

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Speaker 3: that pass the pub test?

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Speaker 2: And Gina Chick, who won the very first season of

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Speaker 2: A Lone Australia will be winning us.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the podcast. A miracle of recording. We have so

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Speaker 1: many requests for them to do it again.

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Speaker 4: Mistress Amanda and miss Killer Amanda doesn't work alone.

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Speaker 1: Friend making the tools of the train.

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Speaker 4: I've heard them describe him as a drunken idiot.

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Speaker 1: The legendary part.

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Speaker 5: Jonesy and Amanda the actress, Congratulations, we're there right now.

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Speaker 1: Josey and Amanda, you're doing a great job. Anyone silky

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Speaker 1: giant good radio.

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Speaker 4: Sorry but it's a tone tongue twist set and Amanda's shoot.

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Speaker 1: Tim, we're on the air the morning to you manage.

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Speaker 1: Did you notice my bike leaking oil this morning?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: She walked past.

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Speaker 2: I have to say two things. No, but don't read

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Speaker 2: anything into that. Because I have car park blinders, I

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Speaker 2: kind of recognize my own car and the carp I.

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Speaker 3: Did the service on Madona. The Harley and Harley Davison's

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Speaker 3: take three oils, so my Jack bikes they will take

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Speaker 3: one oil. I know this is fascinating to you, but

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Speaker 3: Harley Davis got the primary, they've got the gearbox oil,

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Speaker 3: they've got the engine.

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Speaker 2: Do its people just wake up.

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Speaker 1: It don't help you anyone three to deal with you.

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Speaker 1: Caddies they don't have They have a dry clutch.

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Speaker 3: That's why you might notice when you pull up next

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Speaker 3: with your caddy at the lights, it sounds like it's

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Speaker 3: going to fall to bits.

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Speaker 1: But don't be alarmed. It's just the well, no, I know.

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Speaker 3: That's the dry crutch. In fact, yeah, I just did

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: I saw a thing. Have a look, run down and

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Speaker 2: have a look. I'll host the show where you go

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Speaker 2: and pandit to your little girlfriend in the car park.

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Speaker 2: You're jealous, No, I'm quite all right with you in

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Speaker 2: your array of bikes. I saw this funny thing yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It said here's a photo. It says getting out of

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Speaker 2: your car in the nineteen nineties was alike. And there's

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Speaker 2: four images. The first one taking the radio out, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you were scared to.

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Speaker 1: Be stolen, or the face.

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Speaker 2: Of the radio, face of the radio, the dial kind

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Speaker 2: of thing. The second one was an old crank thing

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Speaker 2: one was then putting out like one of those aluminium

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Speaker 2: sun reflective sheetings on the front wind screen. It took

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Speaker 2: you an hour to get out of your car.

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Speaker 3: But these days, no one has a clublock or a

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Speaker 2: No, But also, when's the last time we ever heard

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Speaker 3: You only hear an old ship box cars going off

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Speaker 3: that no one's going to steal because it's actually failed.

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Speaker 1: And you just hear the alarm goer ninety four sileaky

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Speaker 2: Remember they used to be all there's a cacophony of

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Speaker 2: But why don't we have them anymore?

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Speaker 1: Car's got the immobilizer now.

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Speaker 2: And like so if it's not, if it's not the

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Speaker 3: Well, now, what's happening those little flog kids that break

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Speaker 3: into your house. What they do is they break into

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Speaker 1: Like the old days, you'd steal a car, you get

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Speaker 1: the packing tape down the side and you'd you know,

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Speaker 1: you get there. There was a skill in it, there

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Speaker 3: The kids these days, they just go into the house,

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Speaker 3: take the car, take the fob key. And a lot

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Speaker 3: of people leave their keys in the car in the garage,

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Speaker 3: which is not wise because then they can just take

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Speaker 3: might avoid your insurance as well.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember this is another admission of my lack

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Speaker 2: wasn't well. The first car I had at one of those,

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Speaker 2: and when it stopped working, I threw the whole thing out.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize there was just a battery inside, you know.

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Speaker 3: I see I couldn't a car once because you had

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Speaker 3: a bug on the windscre it's broke and like this anymore.

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Speaker 2: Enough years of so I can admit that to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you'll never bring it up, and I know that that's

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Speaker 2: what I appreciate about you.

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Speaker 1: I won't. I won't bring it that. You're a person

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Speaker 1: that ran out of petrol in your car.

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Speaker 3: A car that will measure the millimeter your car will

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Speaker 3: run out of fuel.

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Speaker 1: You ran out of fuel.

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Speaker 2: There's a center in Germany who will tap me on

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Speaker 2: the shoulder saying you've only got thirty k's left.

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Speaker 1: From put fuel in your car.

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Speaker 3: But what do you do you run out of field

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Speaker 3: and in the harbor tunnel, which is the worst.

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Speaker 1: I became the hazard that they warn you about when

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Speaker 1: they do turn on the radio. Turn on the radio,

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Speaker 1: some loady has broken down. That was me, that's you,

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Speaker 1: that was mean, that's you. That's what you do. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: any way, you should silly to you.

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Speaker 3: We should get your drive like lady I should be

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Speaker 3: wrapped in nerth Maybe you should do the show from

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Speaker 3: What's surprising results yesterday when we did it. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: forward to playing it.

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Speaker 2: People are nominating their favorite shows, but they're not necessarily

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Speaker 2: knowing all the answers. Also, you may remember the first

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Speaker 2: winner of Alone Australia, Gina Chick. What an extraordinary woman

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Speaker 2: she was and is she's joining us on the show.

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Speaker 3: We can't do anything though, until we do the Magnificent seven.

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Speaker 2: Ready for question one. I am from the famous film

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Speaker 2: What's the First Rule of Fight Club?

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to go down to the car park

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Speaker 3: and check if that gasket is held out on my bike?

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Speaker 2: I would you like me to check it out? What's

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Speaker 2: a bike?

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Speaker 1: You throw it out? Leaking Gama's I'm sort of streaming

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Speaker 1: down on sitneing in town this morning. It's lighter in

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Speaker 1: the studio at this time.

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Speaker 2: I've noticed our social media lighting is less attractive for

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Speaker 2: me now that there's more light coming in. So I

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Speaker 2: might just put a thick blanket over the window between

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Speaker 1: You used to complain about that at north right? Didn't

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Speaker 1: you winge? At north right? I said, look, what did

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Speaker 1: a man is?

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Speaker 2: I used to say that she was like a budgy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We were in a small box and then the only

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Speaker 2: a blind down on it.

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Speaker 1: And I was the mean man that didn't let the

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Speaker 1: little budgy have the sun on her face. And now

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Speaker 1: I get you.

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Speaker 2: I give it lanket.

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Speaker 1: You want to put up a blanket? What's wrong with you?

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Speaker 1: We have the magnificence seven. There are seven questions.

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Speaker 3: Can you go all the way and answer all seven

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Speaker 3: questions correctly? If you do that, Amanda will say, do

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Speaker 3: you have a look at your bike?

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I completely forgotten.

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Speaker 3: I was rocking out to Electric Blok. I'm sure it's okay.

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Speaker 3: I bought a gasket off the internet. Not a genuine

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Speaker 2: This is where your cheapness will bite you.

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Speaker 3: No, just because the thing is to get a Harley

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Speaker 3: Davidson gasket, I've got to take you to a Harley

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Speaker 1: And I just couldn't be bothered doing that.

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Speaker 2: That place, Harry Baby.

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Speaker 1: Harry Vavidson.

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Speaker 3: And the gasket I put in is leaking, and so

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Speaker 3: I had to put the old gasket in. So I

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Speaker 3: think the old gasket's going to hold though, anyway. Jackieson

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Speaker 3: Campbell sitting on the edge of a seat.

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Speaker 2: Jackie, I, well, thank you, good morning, good morning. Question

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Speaker 2: one from the famous film, what's the first rule of

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Speaker 2: fight Club?

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Speaker 7: You don't talk about fight club?

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Speaker 1: Talk about fight you are, Jackie, just talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Which vegetable shares its name with a measurement for the

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Speaker 3: purity of gold.

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Speaker 8: Carrot?

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 5: Question three, Let's play riffrash, Okay, Jackie, what song has

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Speaker 5: this famous riff?

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Speaker 9: I know the song and I know the title of it.

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Speaker 1: Jackie is in wattle growth hies, sir, Hello, Jonji and Amanda,

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Speaker 1: how are you very well have listened to this famous riff?

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Speaker 2: What's the song?

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Speaker 9: Is that killer?

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Speaker 1: Queen?

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Speaker 9: By queen?

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Speaker 1: Is it a laser et cetera?

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Speaker 3: Yes, they're in the seventeenth century, that's the sixteen hundreds,

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Speaker 3: Young upper class men in Europe would travel across the

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Speaker 3: continent in a right of passage known as what was

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Speaker 3: it a the Grand Tour?

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Speaker 1: Be the Nobleman's Journey or c schoolies?

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Speaker 10: Let's go the Nobleman's Journey?

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Speaker 3: No, you'd think so, but no, thirteen WSFM is our number.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you call us? Some play the Magnificent Seven.

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Speaker 3: The seventeenth century, young upper class men in Europe would

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Speaker 3: travel across the continent in a right of passage known

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Speaker 3: as what.

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Speaker 2: Well Kentickie's not an option here? Interestingly? Is it the

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Speaker 2: Grand Tour? Or is it schoolies?

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Speaker 1: The GM nation?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: All right, WSFM, HOWO there it's Jersey Demander. He's a

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Speaker 3: grand bar Now, I guess kirkybab because his daughter France

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Speaker 3: has been had a baby.

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Speaker 1: She had a baby.

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Speaker 2: Who these days is known as a grand hok tour?

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Speaker 2: Is he replacing Kevy Walters? That's Saturbaut Kevy Kevy the

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Speaker 1: Us to win us.

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Speaker 1: I think so good on him.

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Speaker 3: Which American former professional skateboarder is nicknamed Birdman.

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Speaker 7: Would be Tony Hawk.

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Speaker 2: There's another hot tour in there.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to you, Chelsea, You've won the jam packets all

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Speaker 2: Was always a clo I know, the nineteen seven.

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Speaker 3: And then a chicken come over and make out with her?

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Speaker 3: Is it on me too, Phonsie? No, I wonder how

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Speaker 2: I think it was all consensual and there was no

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Speaker 1: Back to Chelsea.

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Speaker 3: You're going to be seeing Keith Urban's High in the

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Speaker 3: Live World Tour Tutos Bank Arena.

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Speaker 1: That's next year in August. Tickets are on sale now

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Speaker 1: from ticket Tech. Don't you buy them, Chelsea, because you've.

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Speaker 3: Already got them one hundred and fifty dollars to spend

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Speaker 3: at restaurant three one seven.

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Speaker 1: Are you a Celiac Cilia, Chelsea?

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Speaker 3: No, but anyway at Sydney's only CILIAC accredited venue.

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Speaker 2: But they have all kinds of foods, great foods.

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Speaker 3: Jones demandic coacter choose for the color and some Sadad Pencils, Chelsea,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, You're welcome.

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Speaker 5: Jonesy and Amanda Podcast.

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Speaker 12: We've got to focus.

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Speaker 2: We have places to be. I'm going to fix through

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Speaker 1: On this day in eighteen eighteen. In nineteen eighty nine,

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Speaker 2: I strapped on a bustle and I went into the town.

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Speaker 2: On this day. In nineteen eighty nine, Tom Petty released

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Speaker 2: song has been added to the songs that Trump is

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Speaker 2: You can't produce your way out of that?

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Speaker 2: It's real? He was the big star. This is what

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Speaker 2: the happy days and jonesy and let's get what was

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Speaker 1: Just tell job set there's a little bit of this.

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Speaker 2: He has to get one single note.

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Speaker 1: Don't pull off Scott.

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Speaker 2: Now where were we?

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Speaker 1: Let's play this.

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Speaker 2: JA podcast.

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Speaker 3: It is the second of October or October as they

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Speaker 1: Anyone still do Rocktober? Does that happen? Is that a thing?

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Speaker 2: Maybe another radio station still does it?

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Speaker 1: Should we do it?

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Speaker 8: Maybe we should bring it back, Maybe we should do

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Speaker 8: I hate this song, but that would be every day,

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Speaker 8: seventeen to seven. It's interesting talking about talk to a

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Speaker 6: Dude?

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Speaker 2: On that day, let's set up where that happened. There

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Speaker 1: The street, how they please their man in.

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Speaker 2: a million dollars. She's got hocktur merchandise. Yeah, all hat

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Speaker 1: Of stuff, like a sape dispenser that would be handy.

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Speaker 2: No I saw, I saw one that has her face.

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Speaker 1: And did you press it? And stuff comes out of

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Speaker 3: Well, you've got to make hay while the sun shines,

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Speaker 1: Have a podcast out there.

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Speaker 2: I've got one, am I the Dog or the Man.

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Speaker 3: Double a Chattery. It drops on Thursday. It is a great,

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Speaker 2: It's not as good as hot tour of this HOWK tour.

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Speaker 3: She's got her podcast called Talk to Her. It's already

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Speaker 2: You know it happened?

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Speaker 1: How does it happen? This is the world we're at.

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Speaker 13: Hello there, and welcome to episode three of Talk to Her.

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Speaker 13: I'm Haley and I'm Chelsea and our especial guest other day,

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Speaker 13: Come on in here.

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Speaker 3: Girl, And then she goes and talks to people, mainly

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Speaker 2: She kind of not close my mouth and she ti yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then they have chats and nane chats like this.

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Speaker 12: I haven't I've been.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've no, no have you?

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Speaker 1: What's your? What's your? I you in Magi sim where

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Speaker 1: you got pooky?

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Speaker 12: Blow me down here so you have a pooky, I

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Speaker 13: Pooky'll actually be here and probably like an hour stop

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Speaker 13: I mean, they're already part of the family. One I

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so they're skirting on soft incests there.

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Speaker 2: I believes she's having aship with her friend's cousin on

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Speaker 1: It's a gateway having off with your own cousin.

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Speaker 2: That's my podcast, Kissing Cousins.

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Speaker 1: This is the world we're living in now. You know,

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Speaker 1: we might as well just give up.

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Speaker 3: Really, because people on the internet have been kind to

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Speaker 2: Talk about this one someone saying, I can't believe it's

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Speaker 2: October already.

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Speaker 3: Already, before I found tour, I was going to unlive myself,

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Speaker 2: This one, I removed the life support from my dying

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Speaker 3: Okay, what about this one? I was pulling someone out

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Speaker 3: Episode four was out, so I stopped everything I was

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Speaker 1: Oh dear, And I think this one says it all.

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Speaker 2: Don't read that last one.

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Speaker 3: I was smoking an embalming fluid joint, watching adult circumcision videos.

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Speaker 1: But this came on.

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Speaker 2: People are loving it. People are loving it.

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Speaker 1: Did I say the double a chattery drops on Thursday?

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Speaker 1: Will you be talking about this stuff?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've to give my cousin a call Soft Incests Osis.

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Speaker 2: We were speaking on Monday with our entertainment guru, Emma

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Speaker 2: Gillespie about Lana del Ray. I really love Lana del Ray.

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Speaker 2: She kind of sing these ethereal kind of songs.

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Speaker 2: he hosts them. He takes tourists out on swamp alligated tours.

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Speaker 2: He's a snippet of him from YouTube. Oh, it was

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Speaker 2: Hello Jenna, Hello Jenna del Ray. Jenna del Ray, talk

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Speaker 2: It's like an it'd be like remember gentle Ben that

451
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Speaker 2: show if we were younger, one hundred.

452
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Speaker 1: Years airing her brain and it is.

453
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Speaker 2: So it's sort of you know, skirts on the top

454
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Speaker 2: of the glade.

455
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Speaker 1: It's a punt with a big fan on the back. Yeah.

456
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it has the big fan and everything. So

457
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Speaker 9: this was in New Orleans and it goes through one

458
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Speaker 9: of the rivers and you get a tour of the

459
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Speaker 9: alligators in the area and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And how was a tour go for?

461
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Speaker 2: Oh like two hours? And how many of you are

462
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Speaker 2: on the punt?

463
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Speaker 9: There were probably about like ten to twelve of us.

464
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Speaker 1: And do you wow, that's a big punt. Yeah. Do

465
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Speaker 1: you see a lot of alligators.

466
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Speaker 9: So there was one that he said that he claimed

467
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Speaker 9: to have pulled out of the water. It was a

468
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Speaker 9: baby one, but I looked behind him and he got

469
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Speaker 9: it out of a box, so he couldn't actually take

470
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Speaker 9: it out of the water.

471
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Speaker 3: Nah.

472
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 9: And then he's like, oh, here, wait a second, I'll

473
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Speaker 9: put the the rubber band around its mouth and all that.

474
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Speaker 9: And he was just handling it and I'm like, no,

475
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Speaker 9: you just got it out of the box.

476
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Speaker 12: But then we all got a photo with it.

477
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Speaker 9: And then he said, I'm going to throw it back now,

478
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Speaker 9: and he made it a noise, splashing noise.

479
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Speaker 12: But I saw it go back into the box.

480
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Speaker 1: Oh, Jenna, that is like those snake guys. Snake guys.

481
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Speaker 3: Oh, there's a snake the car of the petrol stage.

482
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Speaker 3: You'd all come along and it gets on a carr

483
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Speaker 3: and affair. The guy's put the snake in his own car.

484
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Speaker 2: The guy that used to go diving and he'd find

485
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Speaker 2: a skull all the time, he'd put that skull there himself, exactly. So, Jenna,

486
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Speaker 2: what was he like?

487
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Speaker 14: Like?

488
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Speaker 1: Age?

489
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Speaker 2: I mean, when were you on the tour? When was that?

490
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Speaker 9: So it was twenty sixteen, and let me say it

491
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Speaker 9: was a kentiquy tour, so like a lot of people

492
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Speaker 9: were munted on it, and so they didn't really know

493
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Speaker 9: what was going on.

494
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Speaker 1: So how many people were munted on the punt?

495
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Speaker 12: Probably about ten of them? Right, But he was he

496
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Speaker 12: was nice.

497
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Speaker 2: Did you look at him and think there's some something

498
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Speaker 2: grunty and like earthy and manly about him?

499
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Speaker 12: Absolutely not.

500
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Speaker 1: He was just a swamp guy, right, But still, did

501
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Speaker 1: you think there could have been a chance for you

502
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Speaker 1: and he.

503
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Speaker 9: No, Well he was already because he was engaged for

504
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Speaker 9: twelve years before he met Lana, and then they were

505
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Speaker 9: engaged for a month and got married.

506
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Speaker 1: So you were interested?

507
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Speaker 12: No, I was not interested at all.

508
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Speaker 9: And then at the end of the tour, I completely

509
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Speaker 9: forgot you had to tip the tour guide, so I

510
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 9: didn't have any money on me, so I put on

511
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Speaker 9: like the one cent coin and I made it sound

512
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Speaker 9: like I put in a lot, but.

513
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Speaker 1: It was just on history. Yeah, yeah, got out of

514
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: the give you well for me with this man. And

515
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Speaker 1: so how old is he?

516
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Speaker 2: How old was he when you met him?

517
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Speaker 12: He would have been like, probably in his forties.

518
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Speaker 2: Ruggedly handsome, Chris Hemsworth grunty is kind of what I'm thinking.

519
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: No, not at all.

520
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Speaker 9: I didn't think any thing of him, and none of

521
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Speaker 9: the others did as well, And even when they're mounted,

522
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Speaker 9: did not at all.

523
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Speaker 3: The punt bladed del Ray's going Hang on a minute.

524
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Speaker 3: That's the title of my boyfriend, Jenna. Thank you, thank

525
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Speaker 3: you for being part of the awkwardness of the other day.

526
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Speaker 3: I wasn't playing with Jenna's hair.

527
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Speaker 1: It was one of the other girls of the type

528
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Speaker 1: that's just been cleared up.

529
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Speaker 12: Yeah, that was a bit awkward.

530
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: Well it wasn't me though, yeah, m hair. Thanks General

531
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Speaker 1: chair Nation.

532
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Speaker 9: Right.

533
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: Three more instance, and Amanda's spit on that thing.

534
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 3: You have ten questions sixty seconds on the clock. You

535
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: can pass if you don't know an answer. Will come

536
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: back to that question of time permits. You get all

537
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: the questions right one thousand dollars.

538
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: You can make it two thousand dollars. You have to

539
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: answer a bonus question, but it is double or nothing.

540
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Speaker 8: He's a into man, Sam, Hi Sam, Good morning, right there, Sam,

541
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Speaker 8: We're very well.

542
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: Let's see what we can do for you. Ten questions

543
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: sixty seconds. Say pass if you're not sure? Are you

544
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: ready to start our questions?

545
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 11: There?

546
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 7: Ready to go?

547
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Sam?

548
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: Here we go? Question one traditionally what color is paper?

549
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: Question two?

550
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: What is four plus three?

551
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 11: Seven?

552
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: Question three?

553
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: In which sport would you play on the green?

554
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 8: Pass?

555
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: Question four? What kind of store is my?

556
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 14: To?

557
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: Ten? Question five? True or false? The Statue of Liberty

558
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: is the world's tallest monuments? Question six? Which Olympics would

559
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 2: you find curling? Question seven? Queen Mary of Denmark is

560
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: from which Australian state or territory?

561
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: Question eight?

562
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Speaker 2: On which body part would you find a septum piercing?

563
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: No?

564
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: Question nine? Which pop star is playing Harley Quinn in

565
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: the New Joker movie? Question ten? Traditionally what metal is

566
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: associated with? Panning?

567
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 10: Gold?

568
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: Back to question three? Which sport would you play on

569
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Speaker 2: the green? Question five?

570
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Speaker 1: True or four?

571
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: True or false? Statute would be the worlds tallest monument.

572
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: Question six in which Olympics?

573
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Speaker 1: Which is.

574
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Speaker 2: In which Olympics would you find curling?

575
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Speaker 1: Which one? Winter?

576
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Speaker 9: Winter?

577
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: Yeah on the ice and Lady Gaga is playing Harley

578
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: Quinn a new Joker movie. Oh seven one hundred bucks

579
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Speaker 2: to be getting on with and thank you.

580
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Speaker 1: You did well, you did well? Do you remember? Thank you?

581
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: Mar that dodgy Willy Wonka world in Glassy people were outraged.

582
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Speaker 3: I know they're trying to replicate it worldwide of how

583
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: dodgy it is.

584
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Speaker 9: I know.

585
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: So the fact it was terrible became famous and trying

586
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Speaker 2: to do that. People were promised all kinds of stuff,

587
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: chocolate fountains. They turned up. There was a bowl of

588
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: Minty's and that was about it. Well, there's some others,

589
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: not scams, just disappointments that I've been reading about this morning.

590
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next. So we were talking earlier

591
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: about the Willy Wonka experience. It was a build this

592
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Speaker 2: is in Glasgow. It was billed as an incredible interactive.

593
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Speaker 1: Experience, a world of imagination.

594
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: They promised chocolate fountains, chocolate delights. There was none of that.

595
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Speaker 2: Children were instead offered a half cup of lemonade and

596
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: the small ration of jellybeans, and there was sort of

597
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: like a local version of a nighter graduate standing in

598
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Speaker 2: a costume. That was pretty much it. Well, there's been

599
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: a Bridgeton all held in Detroit. Have you seen the

600
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: footage of this Bridgeton? Massive show. People love the idea

601
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Speaker 2: of dressing up in period costume to go there, and

602
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: people went to huge lengths. I saw footage of people

603
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: who just looked fantastic. What they were promised was that

604
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Speaker 2: they would be stepping into an enchanting world of the

605
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: regency era with all the quote sophistication, grace, and historical

606
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Speaker 2: charm of a typical nineteenth century night of luxury. People

607
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: pay it up to one thousand dollars for tickets. Some

608
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: of them are one hundred and fifty bucks, but up

609
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Speaker 2: to one thousand dollars. There's going to be dinner, an orchestra,

610
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Speaker 2: professional photos, and a valet and all the punsy stuff

611
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 2: that you would love for all the all the bridget

612
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:46,239
Speaker 2: and stuff. Instead, well there was nothing. Instead, there were

613
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: tachy decorations, there was one loan violinist, there was no orchestra.

614
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: I saw in the corner of a room there was

615
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Speaker 2: a vase with a plastic flower in it on the floor.

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Speaker 10: That was it.

617
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Speaker 2: And the entertainment was a woman in a g string

618
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: on a pole. Oh, it's not so bad, and she

619
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Speaker 2: said that she was booked just a few hours before

620
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Speaker 2: the event. And the food they ran out of food,

621
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Speaker 2: some of which guests said was still was served raw

622
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: and was just handed out by a woman in a

623
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Speaker 2: jumper and jeans, and people were leaving this. I'm looking

624
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: at something here that says the event started at seven

625
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: six o'clock. At seven o'clock they watched twenty people leave.

626
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Speaker 3: And you've paid one thousand bucks, paid up to a

627
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: thousand bucks to be there, and Kelly wore a mask.

628
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: What about this? There is a US based cookie company

629
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: that has gone viral. It's like in and out Burger,

630
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, sudden the Australians are going, we want this stuff?

631
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 14: What is it?

632
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 9: What is it?

633
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: It's called Crumble. Sounds like a dating app, doesn't it?

634
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: Crumbl Crumble And so Sydney siders were told that Crumble

635
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: was coming to Sydney, so people lined up for hours

636
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: to get their hands on official Crumble cookies. The cookies

637
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: were selling for seventeen dollars fifty whoa for a cookie?

638
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: And what happened is that they were kind of duped

639
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: in a way because it was a fake pop up

640
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: shop in that it wasn't the official company at all

641
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: selling their cookies to a Sydney Siders. Someone had gone

642
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: and bought a stack of them in the States and

643
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: was just reselling. I just brought them home and was

644
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: reselling the how did you get them through the quarantine? Well,

645
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: the organizers when all the beepit the fan had, they

646
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: broke down their profit and costs, saying that there was

647
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: never their intention to rip anyone off. We haven't really

648
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Speaker 2: made any money because it was expensive to import them.

649
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: It's all been above bought, et cetera, et cetera. But

650
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: people have thought that they were getting access to the

651
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: official Crumble cookie and so it was just old mate

652
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: who went over and bought some and ran out very quickly. P. T.

653
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Speaker 1: Barnum said it, there's a sucker born every minute. I mean,

654
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Speaker 1: I've never queued up for anything.

655
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Speaker 2: What about have you gone to an event? It's not

656
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: so much queuing up. Have you gone to an event?

657
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Speaker 1: One that you and I were involved was that one?

658
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Remember the American Chopper Show. The American Chopper guys came here,

659
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: and what were they supposed to do? They're supposed to

660
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Speaker 1: have this big event.

661
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Speaker 3: It was this is a long time ago in two

662
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Speaker 3: thousand and five, two thousand and six, when American Chopper

663
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Speaker 3: was huge, and they were going to build a chop

664
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Speaker 3: er on Strange and then give it away. And then

665
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it was kind of strange how

666
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Speaker 3: they gave it away. They gave his chopper all away,

667
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Speaker 3: and there was this sort of confused Asian bloke on

668
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Speaker 3: stage and they congratulations and they whisked him away.

669
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Speaker 2: Then he went to Melbourne one up there again.

670
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Speaker 3: And then a guy from the airport who works at

671
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Speaker 3: the airport sent me a picture of that chopper going

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Speaker 3: back to America and that was That was the ignomy of.

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Speaker 1: The whole event. The event was dreadful.

674
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Speaker 2: I remember also we left way early and we were

675
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Speaker 2: opposed to it. Weren't you supposed to be interacting with

676
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Speaker 2: all the.

677
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Speaker 1: Stars And they didn't want to talk to anyone, No, they.

678
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: Didn't even they came out eventually to wave from a

679
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Speaker 2: balcony and home.

680
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: Bush because they got you and I because we hosted

681
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: the press conference remember that they came here and it

682
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: was very successful and the you hogged all the question

683
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Speaker 3: I didn't hold you, asked Paul Senior.

684
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Speaker 1: So tell me about your mustache. How do you keep

685
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: that so supple and soft?

686
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: And then do you?

687
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: And then twenty minutes of that was talk him talking

688
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: about mustaches.

689
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Speaker 2: Do you remember though? I also I didn't see a

690
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: glass draw and I booked my head. I went into

691
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: it like a budget.

692
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: So this is my moment to shine mustache. And then

693
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: you walk in and everyone's fussing about you, and.

694
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: Then it almost passed out.

695
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Well watch where you're going. And so that event was so.

696
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: Then they asked us, they said, well, will you come

697
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: out to Home Bush and do the next event? And

698
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: it was a totally different event and it wasn't the

699
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: press comings. So the boys were they weren't very good

700
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Speaker 3: at all.

701
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: No, well, they weren't made to be those snows bike. Yeah,

702
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: it's like the Duck Dynasty guys. You know, you get

703
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: a show and it's all going to fall in a

704
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: heap because you get exposed as being the kind of

705
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: people that do do those kinds of show.

706
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Speaker 1: But people paid good money to go and see them.

707
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Speaker 2: Well, look the tribal drum is going to be for this.

708
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: At least ned Kelly wore a mask the event edition.

709
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: At least Kelly wore a mask. I agree with what

710
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: that guy said, what that audio from. That was my

711
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: doll from the Little Doll Cute.

712
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: We had dolls and they said, yeah, our cats, phrases, Yeah,

713
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: I can't remember any of yours.

714
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: Tmes, just me walking into a door. But when what

715
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: event have you gone to that was overhyped and under delivered.

716
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: Us the Tribal Driver's beating and this is on the

717
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: strength of the underwhelming Willy Wonker experience.

718
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: Well that's right. Then we had an underwhelming bridget and ball,

719
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: and then yesterday city Side has lined up to get

720
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: I was going to say grinder biscuits crumble biscuits. Sorry,

721
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: don't make that mistake.

722
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Do not go into grinding biscuits.

723
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: Biscuit Crumble biscuits is American biscuit that people cookie. Everyone thought,

724
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: isn't this amazing? Well no, it was just some people

725
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: who went over there and bought some and set up

726
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: outside of service station to sell them.

727
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: You know what makes me feel that I miss out

728
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: on everything? I just I've never been on the trend

729
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: with stuff like that.

730
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: How do people get onto them?

731
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: It's like people that line up for bubble tea or

732
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: people line up for the latest whatever.

733
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: Who's the first person that got bubble te and said

734
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: this is really good? And then everyone just gets in

735
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: the queue.

736
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: Apparently we're being not necessarily ripped off, but.

737
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Speaker 1: The tribal drumas beating for at least Kelly wore a mask.

738
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Speaker 2: I'll actually what event was disappointing for you?

739
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Speaker 7: Okay, So about eight years ago, I used to live

740
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Speaker 7: in South Africa and I had a little tea business there,

741
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 7: so I'm just setting the scene a little work here,

742
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 7: and I was invited to go to a high tea

743
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 7: event that was promised to be this beautiful event. Everybody

744
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 7: needed to dress up. There was going to be music playing,

745
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 7: there was going to be stall holders, the whole high

746
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 7: tea extravagance, giveaways, and a tea master presenting a tea seramony.

747
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 7: So that was what I was doing, right, And I

748
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 7: get there and there's nothing. Well, sort of in the

749
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 7: lead up to it, it was really hard to get

750
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 7: hold of the organizer as well. I was saying sort

751
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 7: of clue in that maybe there might be a bit

752
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 7: of a problem with this event. But I get there,

753
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 7: I bring all of my teas, I bring some teas

754
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 7: to sell, and I walk into this big, big hall

755
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 7: and there's a lot of big, long tables kind of

756
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 7: set up, and there's just a single white tablecloth and

757
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 7: each of these tables, but nothing else, no decorations. The

758
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: harpist turns up as well, and I'm thinking, wow, this

759
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 7: is really really close to this event starting. There's nothing

760
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 7: on the tables. What is you know they must have,

761
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 7: you know, maybe they've got like twenty butlers out the

762
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 7: waiting waiters out in the back ready to bring everything out. Nothing.

763
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 7: People start arriving and they are dressed up. They are

764
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 7: beautifully dressed up for this highty event, similar to what

765
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 7: you would wear to a Bridgeton event, and I'm thinking, wow,

766
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 7: what is going on here? The harpist then gets into

767
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 7: the corner and starts playing some music. So at the beginning,

768
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 7: everybody thought everything was okay, okay, But about an hour

769
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Speaker 7: into it, there's no tea given out and there's no

770
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 7: food given out. So South Africans are people that will

771
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 7: take it upon themselves to sort things out. They're not

772
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 7: going to just sit around and wait for something or

773
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 7: wait for an announcement. So they get up. They go

774
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 7: into the kitchen and they find boxes and boxes of

775
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 7: these sort of like Sarah Lee frozen cakes to what

776
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 7: should it be handed out, and they start bringing it out,

777
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, there's just this anger in

778
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 7: the air and it's almost like a riot. And there

779
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 7: would have been maybe like more than five hundred people

780
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 7: at this event, more than and they see me in

781
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 7: the corner, you know, with my teas, and I look

782
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 7: like I'm supposed to know what I'm doing. I'm not

783
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 7: even joking. They start coming at me and I'm going,

784
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Speaker 7: I don't know.

785
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: I was just booked for this event.

786
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 7: And they say, right, we're boiling tea. I'm not even joking.

787
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 7: These people who are dressed up, who have paid to

788
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 7: come to this event, They're like, we're boiling some tea.

789
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 7: We need some tea. Let us have your tea. And

790
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 7: I said, all right, So I start selling my speech

791
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 7: to these people. I start giving some of it away.

792
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 7: We find some boxes of sort of sponsored events under

793
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 7: the tables, and then next minute people.

794
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 12: Are like taking the table boss.

795
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 7: They're taking whatever they can find, and I just got

796
00:35:59,440 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 7: out of.

797
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: There a riot arranging an event and please give them

798
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: a Lipton's.

799
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, this guy at the back running away with a

800
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 3: briefcase full of cash.

801
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: Jonesy and Amanda podcast.

802
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: We all remember the underwhelming Willie Wonker experience. That was

803
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: a big deal.

804
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: It was a big deal, was in Glasgow. It was

805
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: billed as an as a immersive experience, chocolate fountains, characters

806
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: wandering around, was going to be incredible. It was none

807
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 2: of those things. Kid's got a small rationed bowl of

808
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: jelly beans and that was about it. Then we've had

809
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: the Bridgeton ball. This has just happened in Detroit. People

810
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: spent thousands of dollars on their outfits. Incredible. They were

811
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: told they'd be an orchestra, there would be all this

812
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: posh stuff, Bridgeton stuff. There was none of that. There

813
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: was a stripper or in a g string on a pole.

814
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to put in an evening with Jonesy Demander,

815
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: but you declined.

816
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: I declined. And now we've got these cookies that are

817
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: called Crumble from the States and people were told, hey,

818
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: come along, and people had heard all about this. This

819
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: new viral cookie lined up incredibly overcharged and discovered that

820
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: in fact that these have just been bought by someone

821
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: and sold here in front of a service station.

822
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: It's just black and gold cookies. That you just put

823
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: a tray of black and gold cookies.

824
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: Well they are the actual cookies, but that's been bought

825
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: by someone and being resold.

826
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: The tribal drummers beating four.

827
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: Were a mask the event edition. Hello Teresa, Hi, good.

828
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Speaker 6: Morning James and Amanda.

829
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Speaker 2: What happened years ago?

830
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 6: When I was with my ex He was ex police

831
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 6: and he said he's big boss back from the police force.

832
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 6: His daughter was getting married and we were invited to

833
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 6: the engagement party at dul and he went through my clothes.

834
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 6: He said, oh, you've got you've got nothing suitable. You

835
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 6: need to go and buy a new outfit, which I

836
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 6: was already insulted.

837
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: Yes, so I went.

838
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 6: I spent hundreds of dollars on a new dress, matching shoes, bag, everything. Anyway,

839
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 6: I asked him before that, I said, please, can you

840
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 6: ring and get the dress code? And you wouldn't do that,

841
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 6: And anyway, I bought this beautiful outfit. We got there,

842
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 6: we arrived to sit in a garage among everybody wearing

843
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 6: jeans and thongs and tank tops, and I felt so embarrassed.

844
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 6: I went back to the car, I got my cardigan.

845
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 6: You know, it was awful, and everybody it was a

846
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 6: standard dress, jeans and songs and I'm dressed for a wedding,

847
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 6: you know. But anyway, I made the most of it

848
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 6: because the wedding was in Canberra and I wore the

849
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 6: same outfit.

850
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: Dressed and being overdressed and both which would you rather?

851
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Would you be? Rather be overdressed or underdressed? Both of

852
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: them very I think overdressed is always better.

853
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Still you didn't feel very comfyed by the sound

854
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: of it, Terresa.

855
00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: No, no, thank you, Teresa. Thank you a thousand bucks

856
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: on the strength for that. But nonetheless, young podcast, let's

857
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: get on down.

858
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: To the jonesy demout of apps for the pub test today,

859
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: salary transparency.

860
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: Does this pass the pub test?

861
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. This is apparently a new trend

862
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: amongst the youngest, amongst us, because when we grew up,

863
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: you never ever mentioned how much you earned. You'd never

864
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: ever ask anyone else. But looking at this survey is interesting.

865
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 2: Eighty six percent of gen zs are open to discussing

866
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: the salaries fifty nine percent of millennials young people. This

867
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: is interesting. I this hadn't occurred to me. People are saying,

868
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: particularly young women, saying they want some transparency to see

869
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: if they are being underpaid as females, see if there's

870
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: a gender pay gap. And she said that it works

871
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: in your company's favor if no one discusses what they're earning,

872
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: because everyone can be underpaid and the company gets away

873
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, why don't know what everyone else.

874
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: Ort not to talk about money? No, but I always

875
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: seems to be a thing now though.

876
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if everyone what everyone else is getting, how

877
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: can there be unless we go into the communist system

878
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 2: and we all get exactly the same and that works.

879
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: How can people not be resentful? How can people not

880
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: work as hard by thinking, well, I'm doing the same

881
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: job they are. I get why it makes sense for

882
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: everyone to know that as human beings. I don't think

883
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: it can work.

884
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: My kids, well, one time they said, how much do

885
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: you make it?

886
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 2: I said, what did you say?

887
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: I said, just google it? Googled.

888
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: It's never real. It's never true.

889
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: Oh yours is, well it's not. I'm not saying anything.

890
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: You don't tell me how much you, and I know

891
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 3: that you get considerably more than How do you know that,

892
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: because back when I got you to come and work

893
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: over here, I said, pay or whatever she wants. I

894
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: don't care if it's more than me, but I know

895
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: if she does a radio show with me, it will

896
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: be very successful. They're about to flick me. Back in

897
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 3: two thousand and four, it was desperate time.

898
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what you earn, but you would upset

899
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: you if I was getting more than you.

900
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: Probably, now it's been twenty years, we should be some

901
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: sort of pay parody.

902
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: When your record, do you think, hey, this is a thing.

903
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: It starts to bring all this stuff up? It does?

904
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: It brings it all up? How do you feel salary transparency?

905
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: Does it passed the pub testtis?

906
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: Maybe?

907
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: The last time I saw Gina Chick was when I

908
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: was hosting the Alone Australia Reunion. She just won the

909
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: first series. She survived for sixty seven days in the

910
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: remote worlds of Tasmania, Australia. Saw an inspirational, daring, strong,

911
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: emotionally available woman and it blew our minds. She has

912
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: a new book out called We Are the Stars, and

913
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: she joins us now Hello, Gina.

914
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 12: Hello Amanda, and hello a Jenesy.

915
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: Hello there, Gina. It's great to see you weekends.

916
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: I saw you on the show. I mean you were

917
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: stitching a possum coat and you looked a little bit like,

918
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: oh well, no, she's one of those unusual survivalists. And

919
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: I think that you were such a surprise package because

920
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: you are so layered, you come from a family of writers.

921
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: You were very open about things that have gone on

922
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: in your life. What do you think it was that

923
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 2: blew us away?

924
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 11: I think what I get the feedback about when I'm

925
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 11: wandering around in the streets and people stop me, is

926
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 11: that I managed to survive in a situation where we

927
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 11: usually see suffering on survival shows.

928
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 12: We love watching people suffer.

929
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 11: We sit in our lounge rooms and we're fat and

930
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 11: we're eating our pizza and we're warm, and there's people

931
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 11: suffering and we can shout at the TV about their

932
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 11: choices and enjoy their suffering in a way.

933
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 12: But I didn't suffer. I thrived. I lived in harmony

934
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 12: with nature.

935
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 11: I listened to and connected with nature, and I managed

936
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 11: to get all my needs met by doing that in

937
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 11: a way that we usually really only see with first

938
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 11: nations and you know, hunter gatherer and indigenous people.

939
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 12: It's like that level of nature connection.

940
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 11: And I sort of like toddled out there with my

941
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 11: bare feet and danced in the moss and talked to

942
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 11: the platypus and sang to the lake and pulled out.

943
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: Fish and eel and landed on top of a wallaby

944
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: that you ate.

945
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, and I loved it.

946
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 12: I had a ball.

947
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: But it was so therapeutic to watch it the way

948
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: you talked about your story with Blaze, your daughter who

949
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: passed away from cancer. You were pregnant, you got cancer,

950
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: and then you have that. I just remember watching the

951
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: story as it unfolded. I'm thinking, oh, thank god it

952
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: all worked out, Blaze survived, and then you tell her

953
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: how she passed away.

954
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: It was like I remember, just like I didn't.

955
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: I couldn't even expressed my emotion watching it at that time,

956
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: because we don't see that.

957
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 12: No, no, And this is when I wrote this book.

958
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 11: That was one of the things that I wanted to do,

959
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 11: was to talk about that kind of loss in a

960
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 11: way that doesn't break us as a reader, you know,

961
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 11: because we all go through loss, we all go through

962
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 11: things that you know that we love that leave us

963
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 11: in some way, and I feel like in our culture

964
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 11: we don't have a really healthy relationship ship with grief

965
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 11: or sort of like ways to be with grief in

966
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 11: conversations about grief.

967
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 12: And so I wanted to share the way.

968
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 11: I have moved through that loss, where on the other

969
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 11: side of it I am actually bigger and brighter and

970
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 11: wiser and more compassionate and more kind. And to be

971
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 11: able to write it in a way that the reader

972
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 11: can come through something like that that and be more

973
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 11: on the other side.

974
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 12: Rather than less.

975
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: Tell me about your grandmother. Is it Charmian or charmain,

976
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: Charmian charming, It's a combination of all of us. Charmian

977
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: Charmian Clift. I remember reading her works when I was younger.

978
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: Tell me the extraordinary story about all of that.

979
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 12: Yeah.

980
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 11: So, Charmian Clift was Australia's first female columnist and she

981
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 11: was this groundbreaking, amazing writer. She was writing about multiculturalism

982
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 11: in the early sixties when it was the wide Australia policy.

983
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 11: She was writing about basically about sexism and about women's

984
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 11: sort of the empowerment of w when.

985
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 12: It was how to bake a cake for your man.

986
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 11: And she married a guy named George John Johnston who

987
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 11: wrote My Brother Jack, and they went to the Greek

988
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 11: Islands and lived this wild bohemian lifestyle, you know, writing

989
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 11: books and you know, carousing. Leonard Cohen stayed with them

990
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 11: for a couple of years when he first arrived in

991
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 11: Ageer before he bought his own house, and he was

992
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 11: part of their gang.

993
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 12: And my mother was her illegitimate first child.

994
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 11: My mother's adopted and so when I was twenty one,

995
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 11: the adoption laws changed and my mom found out who

996
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 11: her birth mother was and we found out it was

997
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 11: this incredible author, writer, columnist, thinker, you a trailblazer, and

998
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 11: this was.

999
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 12: My biological grandmother.

1000
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: But also the emotion that's around, how come I didn't

1001
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: have access to those to those people, Yeah, those great

1002
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: writer brains and the family that they went on to create,

1003
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: good and bad. Yeah, Yeah, of emotion around that.

1004
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm so sad that you know,

1005
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 12: I never went and met Leonard Cohen. And he credits

1006
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 12: Charmian and George with teaching him how to write.

1007
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 11: And you know, a friend of mine used to go

1008
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 11: to his concerts all the time and I always thought, oh,

1009
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 11: I should go and say hi, and I never did.

1010
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 12: And it's one of those great regrets I really kick

1011
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 12: myself about.

1012
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: That is extraordin say, this is the stuff that you

1013
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: get from you. When was the last time you lit

1014
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: a fire with nothing?

1015
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 14: Like?

1016
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: You just lit a fire, no firelight, there's no matches.

1017
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 12: Just just about ten days ago.

1018
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: Ten days ago, Yeah, I did that.

1019
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: Member. I robbed my two Amex cards together.

1020
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 12: Just know that's an extra extra special kind of spark,

1021
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 12: that one.

1022
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: That one goes like silver when it goes. I'd love

1023
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: to see Amandra alone.

1024
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 10: Oh.

1025
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Every time I watch it, I just think, you know,

1026
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: hats off to everyone. I can barely get to the

1027
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: car park without needing help.

1028
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 12: I'd take you at camping.

1029
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: There you go. I'm not a cat.

1030
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 11: Oh, I reckon, I reckon. You could come out with

1031
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 11: me and we, like, just for a night and you

1032
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 11: would love it.

1033
00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: About an hour.

1034
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 11: Okay, let's go out for an hour and we'll light

1035
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 11: a fire and have a yarn around a fire around fishing.

1036
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: One day, I packed sandwiches before we even left the

1037
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: boat ramp and had already eaten and was starting on

1038
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: the bait.

1039
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 11: Absolutely well, no part of part of me in the bush.

1040
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 11: When it's you know, when it's me, I go primitive.

1041
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 11: But when there's other people, we have food. I'm a

1042
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 11: massive foodie and so you know, my friends make me laugh.

1043
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 11: I mean sorry, my friends laugh at me because sometimes

1044
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 11: when we go out on a really big adventure, like

1045
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 11: I packed super light, I've got my you know, you know,

1046
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 11: my fire kid and no blankets or anything.

1047
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: But I've just got the best food ever.

1048
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 12: Because you know, if you're going to be out.

1049
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: In a situation every night, it was great.

1050
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 11: No, I'm not going to make you eat meal, but

1051
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 11: I might bring some actual, like some cracking food, and

1052
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 11: you won't be eating Gina's.

1053
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: Buttocks like you're alive when you're starving.

1054
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 12: Today, Well you wouldn't starve, that's for sure.

1055
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: Gina, it's always great to talk to you. You were

1056
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: so great. We are stars as out today.

1057
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: You are a star.

1058
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 11: Jeni Chik, thank you, thank you very much for having

1059
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 11: me jun Samasio podcast.

1060
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: When God, I wanted to get on right now, I

1061
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: feel like I'm taking plezy Now your.

1062
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 1: Windows over, stick your head on a yell as hell.

1063
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: Pub test today, salary transparency. Does it pass the pub test?

1064
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: Back in my day, it was the height of bad

1065
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: manners to talk about how much money you made.

1066
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: But apparently the younger generations are into this. Eighty six

1067
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 2: percent of gen Zetas are open to discussing it, fifty

1068
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: nine percent millennials, and many are saying this is the

1069
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: way the company can't rip you off, so that you

1070
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: know what everyone's getting, you know what's fair. But it

1071
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: makes for friction. I imagine I can't see human nature

1072
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: being as it is that you can know what everyone

1073
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: else not the band human nature you.

1074
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: Pay disputes inside your nature.

1075
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is how it's human nature to want

1076
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: what other people have, and if you don't, how can

1077
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: it be a happy your work place?

1078
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: Of course, how do you feel, son, I'd like to

1079
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: see pay parity between you.

1080
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: And I would your Brendan for example.

1081
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: I think that would be great.

1082
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't want to take a big pag salery.

1083
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: Transparency is a pass the pub test.

1084
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 9: No, I believe it's your.

1085
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 15: Own private business.

1086
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 9: It's a negotiation.

1087
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 6: Between the employer and employee, and.

1088
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: It's not for the general public.

1089
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 12: Yes, I think it does.

1090
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 7: I don't really have an issue with people knowing how

1091
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 7: much I and it's just a personal thing. But it's

1092
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 7: not something that's going to make me cranky with somebody

1093
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 7: else earning more money than me.

1094
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 10: I don't really care.

1095
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: I express that's sort of thing to yourself, purely, like

1096
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 4: talking about.

1097
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 10: Your love life.

1098
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 15: I want to know how much I'm getting If I'm

1099
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 15: putting the same effort, I know how to do the

1100
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 15: same job. I don't care if it's a boy or

1101
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 15: whatever it is, man, woman, gender, whatever, I like, the

1102
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 15: same page doesn't pass pumpkids for me.

1103
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 10: For the people that are earning too much money and

1104
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 10: not deserving, it probably doesn't pass a pub test or

1105
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 10: familiar past the pub test. So yeah, everyone should know

1106
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 10: what everyone is professional sportsman, everyone knows what they get.

1107
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, there it is.

1108
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: It's true. We all know what the footy stars get,

1109
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: movie stars.

1110
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: And people on radio sep to talk about what they

1111
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: get paid all the time.

1112
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Speaker 2: Not us, not us, because we're not on the radio.

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Speaker 1: And I was watching the block again, so I'm dipping

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Speaker 1: it out of the block. I do enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: I've watched it from its earliest days, and I do

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00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: say that the couples do tend to dove tail into

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Speaker 3: each other over there they.

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Speaker 2: Pick the same duos every time.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of ye and people and they say

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Speaker 3: things like doing these ones and you know they they're all.

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Speaker 1: Cliches and they're all ready to have some sort.

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Speaker 2: Of like right, and they do. They get cast because

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Speaker 2: there are a certain type of person and then shock, horror.

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Speaker 2: They're not very good at renovating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's always one that's really good.

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Speaker 3: But it is a it is a great shape it

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Speaker 3: and I like seeing Scott is a friend of mine,

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Speaker 3: and I love seeing Shelley on the TV. There has

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Speaker 3: been a bit of conjecture about the product mentioned throughout

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Speaker 3: the show, though the member on pose.

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Speaker 2: Men's thirty Rock they had to get four or five

1132
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: posments positive mentions of client goods.

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Speaker 3: And I like to see civilians try to work in

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Speaker 3: product mentions. You know, I've been doing this for a

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Speaker 3: long time.

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Speaker 1: I'm very good at it. I'm very good at just

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Speaker 1: checking in mentions.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm a bit croaky, I need a stripsal and Cole.

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Speaker 1: Ask for it by name, but the blockheads will say something.

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Speaker 3: You know, we had to go down to Reese to

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Speaker 3: get some PVC plumbing produced, saying do it again and

1142
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: mention recent guys of Reese, we love Reese or I

1143
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: went to Calati to get some tiles. I thought, maybe

1144
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: because we're catching up, because the.

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Speaker 1: Block has already been filmed. It's been done.

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Speaker 3: But there was a particular episode last night and they

1147
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: were memory. They were paying tribute to Anzac Day. So

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Speaker 3: they had someone playing the last post. Lest we forget

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Speaker 3: save Craig from our ten year this morning to play

1150
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Speaker 3: the bugle on the block to do the last post.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, was an honor.

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Speaker 2: I didn't so Craig from Miner ten sponsored the bugle. Look,

1153
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Speaker 2: we'll get one of our guys to come down and

1154
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Speaker 2: give us a message.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that Minor ten had a bugle wile.

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Speaker 3: Wow, this could be good to get next to the

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Speaker 3: bagpipe Island for her in case Grandma passes away and

1158
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Speaker 3: she wants old Anxiet and played at a funeral.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: This is so interesting. From counseling to hypnotherapy and now

1161
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Speaker 2: a debunk bot out of the US. It uses AI

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Speaker 2: to reduce a person's belief in conspiracy theories. All of

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Speaker 2: these things are being used to reverse the minds of

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Speaker 2: steadfast conspiracy theorists. Can it work? Our next guest knows

1165
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 2: all too well about this. She found herself spiraling, going

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Speaker 2: viral for tearing masks off target shelves and massing millions

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Speaker 2: of views. She became a self proclaimed spokesperson for conspiracy

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Speaker 2: theories like QAnon. Now Melissa rain Lively is on the

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Speaker 2: other side, sharing his story and the incredible power it

1170
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Speaker 2: takes to rewire your brain.

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Speaker 1: Melissa, Hello, Hi, how are you? Why did they get

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Speaker 1: to you?

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Speaker 13: Man?

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Speaker 1: What happened? Melissa got to Don at the beginning?

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Speaker 2: Hell, do you go down the rabbit hole?

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Speaker 12: Think?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 16: I mean, that's really interesting that you had mentioned that

1179
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Speaker 16: they're doing this like reprogramming with people, because you know,

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Speaker 16: what is a conspiracy theorist anyway? I mean, I hear

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00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 16: it used as such a pejorative, and you know, being

1182
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Speaker 16: somebody who's been a business owner for over twenty years,

1183
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 16: I work in the influenced business, it was very easy

1184
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Speaker 16: for them to pigeonhole me very early on during COVID

1185
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Speaker 16: and try to discredit my discredit me by calling me

1186
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Speaker 16: a conspiracy theorist, when the reality of the situation was

1187
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Speaker 16: I was just doing a little bit more thinking, a

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Speaker 16: little bit more research than most people, And you know, there's.

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Speaker 1: A great joke.

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Speaker 2: You might have heard it.

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Speaker 16: What's the difference between conspiracy theory and conspiracy Act?

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Speaker 1: Do you know the answer?

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Speaker 10: No?

1194
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Speaker 2: About six months?

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Speaker 12: About six months.

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Speaker 16: That's how long it takes for something that is considered

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Speaker 16: to be conspiracy to be proven true. And you know

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Speaker 16: what I say to people now is like, look, you know,

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Speaker 16: name one thing that I said during COVID that did

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Speaker 16: not turn out to be one hundred percent true. Name one?

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Speaker 2: But what about you tearing the You went viral for

1202
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Speaker 2: tearing masks off shells and things, and you said after

1203
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Speaker 2: that that you you kind of were ashamed of that behavior.

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Speaker 2: What were they changes in you after?

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Speaker 16: Well, here's the thing, Like I said, I've been doing

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Speaker 16: public relations for twenty years. Stunts are a part of

1207
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Speaker 16: my business. Everybody wants to go viral these days. I

1208
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 16: saw an opportunity to make a name for myself and.

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Speaker 11: I took it.

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Speaker 16: So do I regret making extra work for the people

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Speaker 16: who were working at the Target store that day? Yes?

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Speaker 12: Did I try to purchase all the.

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Speaker 1: Masks and clean it up myself? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Would they let me buy them?

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Speaker 15: No?

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Speaker 16: Did it turn into an absolute circus that ruined my

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Speaker 16: life per year. Yeah, But did I come out of

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Speaker 16: the other side better for it and able to help

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Speaker 16: other people dealing with the not so nice end of

1220
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Speaker 16: viral incidents and cancel culture. But you know, I think

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Speaker 16: masks were a scam. I would never wear one again.

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Speaker 16: And I think much of what happened with COVID was

1223
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Speaker 16: completely a scam.

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Speaker 2: So do you do you in your in your work

1225
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Speaker 2: and your writings, for example, talk about how to help

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Speaker 2: people come to their own conclusions to come out of

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Speaker 2: a spiral.

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Speaker 12: Well, I don't know what you're talking about. A spiral.

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Speaker 16: I had the media telling me I was a conspiracy

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Speaker 16: theorist on things that have now proven to be one

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Speaker 16: hundred percent true.

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Speaker 1: So at the time I was gas.

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Speaker 16: Lit into saying things to get the heat off of me,

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Speaker 16: and I shouldn't have done it. I shouldn't have I

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Speaker 16: shouldn't have taken my foot off the gas. I shouldn't

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Speaker 16: have taken back any of the things that I said

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Speaker 16: or I did, because there were one hundred percent true.

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Speaker 3: So with the so with COVID, the thing about a

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Speaker 3: worldwide pandemic, it's going to really only happened on one

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Speaker 3: hundred years.

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Speaker 1: So, for example, with us.

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and nine, we had the swine flu

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Speaker 3: pandemic that came through and that was a worldwide pandemic,

1244
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Speaker 3: but it didn't have the heat that the COVID pandemic was.

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Speaker 3: And everyone's memories that, well, no one's going to be

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Speaker 3: around in one hundred years time, so we don't know

1247
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Speaker 3: what happens with the next one.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that a lot of people, in hindsight,

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Speaker 1: you go, well, we probably.

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00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: Acted a bit too were a bit too strict on

1251
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Speaker 3: these certain regulations and things like that, but.

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Speaker 1: At the time, they didn't know how bad it was

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Speaker 1: going to be. Would you agree with that, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would agree with that.

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Speaker 16: I mean, and at the beginning of COVID, you know,

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Speaker 16: I was also you know, very you know, concerned. You know,

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Speaker 16: I think that the way that the public was gas lit.

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Speaker 16: You know, I don't if you remember this, there were

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Speaker 16: you know, videos of people dropping dead in the street

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Speaker 16: in China that was pretty scary.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, we guest were there were there was it.

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Speaker 16: Ever proven that where people were dropping dead in the

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Speaker 16: streets in China?

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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people that died. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people died before we could have mass vaccination well.

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Speaker 16: Look, you work in the media just like I do,

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00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 16: and you know that you can manufacture a narrative using

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00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 16: visuals and using certain language and even things like having

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Speaker 16: a COVID ticker across CNN. You know, counting the deaths

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00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 16: every day was sending you know, a spike of trauma

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Speaker 16: and fear and every single person and people were freaking out,

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Speaker 16: myself included. I mean, you know when they told me

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Speaker 16: I had to shut my business down, you know, that's

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Speaker 16: that's really where I was like, uh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 16: there's something more nefarious.

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Speaker 2: Than was nears. What was nefarious? What's the hidden thing

1277
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Speaker 2: that we're not seeing? What was nefarious?

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Speaker 16: Well, I mean one of things as the greatest wealth

1279
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Speaker 16: transfer in history. I think something like, you know, two

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Speaker 16: million small businesses closed in the United States. You know,

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Speaker 16: people were coerced to take a vaccine that was not

1282
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Speaker 16: ready to be forced into the public. People who lost

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Speaker 16: their jobs over it. People have died, people have had

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Speaker 16: debilitating chemistry.

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Speaker 2: I feel this is an old discussion. We're through all

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Speaker 2: this now. In Australia. The vaccine. I know many people

1287
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Speaker 2: believe that they didn't want the vaccine, but the vaccines

1288
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 2: did save lives our government supported people who did lose

1289
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Speaker 2: their jobs. That's very different to the United States.

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Speaker 1: But we're in a position.

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Speaker 2: Why are we discussing this now? I must say I

1292
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Speaker 2: was under the impression that you had been a conspiracy

1293
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: theorist and that now you weren't, and we thought that

1294
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: was an interesting journey.

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Speaker 16: Well that's a great story, and you know, I don't

1296
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 16: know how they do things down there on that penal colony.

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00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: That's okay, I think we might wrap this up.

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00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: This is a very old narrative that all there's a

1299
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: big you're talking about.

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Speaker 16: You're trying to pin me as a conspiracy theorist.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry, I will, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that

1302
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: that isn't you. I'm sorry if we've misrepresented you, but

1303
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not interested in a discussion about how

1304
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 2: this didn't happen.

1305
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: All right, we'll have a few more vaccines.

1306
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Speaker 2: Thank you, we will. I've kept us alive and I

1307
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Speaker 2: appreciate it. I'm sure you will. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye. Thanks Melissa. Yeah, okay, I don't know what

1309
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: happened there.

1310
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Speaker 2: I thought she was like, well, we thought that she

1311
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: We thought what was interesting about her story was that

1312
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: she had was a conspiracy theorist and had actually found

1313
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: ways to find ways to deal with that, and that's

1314
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: what we were interested in. But if you do what

1315
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: an old narrative, how boring is that old? You know,

1316
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Speaker 2: go and have another vaccine.

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Speaker 1: But if you do the really, if you do the

1318
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Speaker 1: old math.

1319
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Speaker 3: So one hundred years ago when they had the Spanish

1320
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Speaker 3: flu pandemic, the worldwide population was just around A B

1321
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: and P and they lost I think on this is

1322
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Speaker 3: off the top of my head, by the way, but

1323
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Speaker 3: they lost proportionally, not as many people as we lost

1324
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Speaker 3: this time round. So the vaccines are so it took

1325
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Speaker 3: seven years for the vaccines to come through in one

1326
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Speaker 3: hundred years ago because we didn't have the technology. So

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Speaker 3: families were lining up using the same syringes because they

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Speaker 3: just wanted to get whatever they could get one hundred

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Speaker 3: years from now.

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Speaker 1: So in one hundred years from now, in the future,

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Speaker 1: no deaths will be excepted.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's get on, no, I reckon, let's get doctor

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Speaker 2: carl On one day to discuss the figures of how

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Speaker 2: many Australians were saved by having vaccines, how many people

1335
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Speaker 2: around the world were saved by having vaccines. We've discussed

1336
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: this as an a nauseam. Why don't we just go back?

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01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: You know, honestly, I know there are still Australians who

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01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: don't believe in that, and that's fine. But if you're

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01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: going to talk science, you're going to talk figures. Let's

1340
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: do that properly. Maybe get doctor carl on one day

1341
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: or that was a waste of time. I sound like

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Speaker 2: Carle Sanderland.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so there was a good I like

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Speaker 1: that chat Jonesy and Amanda podcast Wow Radio on somebody

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01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: walk up on the wrong side.

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Speaker 2: Of the bed, I clean something up here. We did

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01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: that interview, then it sounds like we just got someone

1348
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: so so I could be routed, And that wasn't what

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01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: the intention was. We thought that Melissa Lively was an

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01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: ex conspiracy theorist, and there's a lot of interesting work

1351
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: being done at the moment to help people find their

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01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: way out of conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of stuff on the Internet, and

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff that you can look at

1355
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: from September eleven to Pearl Harbor to there's a lot

1356
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Speaker 3: of stuff flat Earth.

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Speaker 2: There's all the rest of it, and a lot of

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01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: and and we thought that she was an ex an

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01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: ex conspiracy theorist who was helping people reprogram in a

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01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: way in the new elasticity of the brain. And then

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: she said, we got the impression that no, sounds like

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01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: she's still quite She doesn't want to be called a

1363
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories because everything she says is right, which to.

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Speaker 1: Me makes her conspiracy theorist.

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01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: Emily's our producer who said you'd had some lead up

1366
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: conversations with her that weren't.

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Speaker 1: That at all, the complete opposite.

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Speaker 14: Rather, she sells herself as a de escalator, so she's

1369
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 14: been hired to help people figure out the truth.

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Speaker 2: She herself.

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Speaker 14: I have a quote here from her that said, they

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Speaker 14: tell you the institutions you're supposed to trust.

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Speaker 1: Are lying to you.

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Speaker 14: Anybody who tells you that QAnon is wrong is a

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01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 14: bad guy, including your friends and family. It happens gradually,

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01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 14: and you don't realize you're getting more and more deep

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Speaker 14: into it.

1378
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: So her whole thing was that she spiraled.

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Speaker 14: Her family gave her like an ultimatum, essentially, you're going

1380
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 14: so deep into this, you choose them rass.

1381
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: And she went, oh my god, what's going on?

1382
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 14: And she's kind of become this face for rehabilitation to

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01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 14: fix her image, and I had called her a conspiracy

1384
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 14: theorist over emails. I had given her a heads up

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 14: about what we were going to talk about. She was

1386
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 14: warm with me about it and very interested. And I

1387
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 14: find ironically that the way that she conversed in that

1388
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 14: has sort of shot us.

1389
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 12: Off on the foot.

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01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want people to think that we got

1391
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: her on so that we could just say, what are

1392
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 2: you talking about? Because we thought that she was taking

1393
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: a different kind of argument.

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01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, it was teet off from this this AI program

1395
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 14: that she originally was interested in. And I think it's

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01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 14: kind of proven the point more that humans are having

1397
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 14: trouble convincing other humans or helping them out of these spirals.

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Speaker 2: That's why the AI press.

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Speaker 1: Right so well.

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01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: And when she's never going to convince us or not,

1401
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: she's not going to convince me that there's a bigger

1402
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: malevolence around the decisions that were made around COVID, and

1403
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: we can't. I'm not going to be able to convince

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01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: her of otherwise either.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I said that to it because the governments

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01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 3: at the time didn't know what was happening, you know.

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: Notwithstanding if the disease, if COVID actually came out of

1408
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: China or a guy ate, a bat, whatever's that's.

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01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: His big farmer did make money in all of that.

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01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: But I don't believe there was an evil malevolence behind

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 2: the whole, the whole idea of how there has got.

1412
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: To be a point where you trust. You've got to

1413
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: trust someone.

1414
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: And I trust science, that's the thing.

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 3: I trust science, but also our memories because no one

1416
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 3: was around one hundred years ago when the last pandemic

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01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: came through.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing.

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01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 3: And we've, as I said in this particular our time

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Speaker 3: doing radio show, we've seen two other pandemics, the swine flu,

1421
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 3: bird flu one as well, and they were all considered

1422
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 3: worldwide pandemics.

1423
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: But we didn't go crazy.

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01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: We didn't have the panic because you know why, in

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01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: two thousand and ninements swine flu came through, we didn't

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01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: have social media, so around just accepted what.

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01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: We Let's accept too that a lot of people died,

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01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 2: of course before we had a vaccine, no one's imagining that.

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Speaker 3: But because of science, they got the vaccine through quite quickly,

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01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: and a lot of people and rightly, a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I know wouldn't take the vaccine. I made a choice.

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01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: I did the choice to take it. But if you

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01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: we I wouldn't force other people to.

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01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: Take well that these are all decisions that are made

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01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: with twenty you know, in hindsight, all the rest of hindsight.

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01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: This is an old discussion. This is a very old discussion,

1437
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: which is why I'm sorry we went.

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: We wanted to find out if Paul McCartney was alive

1439
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: or deain. Really, that's what we wanted and you didn't

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01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: do it.

1441
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: Thanks Emily.

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: Share Notion podcast.

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01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: Better Foxdald keeps getting bigger and better, and to celebrate,

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Speaker 3: we're giving away loads of catch On our website WSM

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01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: dot com dot a you can register your favorite TV

1446
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 3: show put your knowledge to the test for money.

1447
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: There's a sting, though. We do have one thousand dollars

1448
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: on the line, so this can you can pick your

1449
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: favorite subject. Carolyn from Illawong has picked Real Housewives of

1450
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. We've got three questions relating to that show.

1451
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: Here thousand dollars. If she gets questioned three correct, if

1452
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: she gets any of them incorrect, until then you jump

1453
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: on and you're playing for the money.

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to alarm you, Carolyn, but everyone that's

1455
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: selected their show thus far has not won the thousand dollars.

1456
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, thanks for high okay.

1457
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: Thanks stay as high as whole, Miss m Well, you

1458
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 2: have to get question three right to get the money.

1459
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 2: But it all starts with question one. Carolyn, here's question

1460
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: one for you from The Real Housewives and Kevity Hills.

1461
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1462
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: Who was the only original cast member that's remained on

1463
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: the show for all seasons?

1464
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 7: I would put that as being Lisa Rena.

1465
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't think Lisa was there right at the beginning? No, no, sorry, Carol,

1466
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: already out.

1467
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: We we talked about high Stakes. Cassie's in Ingeleberth. Hello Cassie,

1468
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: how are you going?

1469
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: Very well? Who was the only original cast member who's

1470
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: remained on the show for all the seasons?

1471
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: Was it? Taylor?

1472
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 15: Answer?

1473
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: No, See, I don't watch this show, so I'm on

1474
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: the information I had in front of me if I

1475
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: would have watched The Real Housewives. And you never know, Brendan,

1476
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: you watch a lot of stuff.

1477
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: Kathleen is in Liverpool.

1478
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: Hi, Kathleen, do you know who was the only original

1479
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: cast member still there?

1480
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: Yes?

1481
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 6: I'm going to say it's Kyle.

1482
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: It is It's Kyle Richards.

1483
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 7: There you go.

1484
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: In season five, Lisa Arenas Arena's infamous wine toss happened

1485
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 3: in which city? Do you remember they tossed the wine

1486
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: in season five?

1487
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 10: Oh?

1488
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: Which?

1489
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 4: Uh?

1490
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: Paris, that's the city of love, not wine throwing.

1491
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: I'd catch it with my mouth open. Belinda's in glen Wood. Hello, Belinda, Hello,

1492
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: Hello New York.

1493
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: Are we going to go through every city in the world?

1494
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: Robin and Penser, Robin, do you know we're the infamous

1495
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: wine toss in season five from Lisa Arena? Where did

1496
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: that take place?

1497
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 15: Oh?

1498
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 10: God, I had no idea.

1499
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 3: Sorry, I think when you played Carol and Vanilla Wong

1500
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 3: for this, she set us up to fail.

1501
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: Vanessa is in Balkham here.

1502
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: Hi, Vanessa, Bye? Will I give you a clue?

1503
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 15: No?

1504
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: Well, you know this is a city of women in

1505
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: windows and partaking before other places were legal to take it.

1506
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: It's Amsterdam. Answered that's very quickly, Vanessa.

1507
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: Question three, This is the question. There's no clues because

1508
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: this one's worth a thousand dollars.

1509
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: What was the name of the dog that Lisa vander

1510
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 3: Pump and her husband adopted from a rescue, which later

1511
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 3: became part of the Puppy Gates scandal.

1512
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: That we're missing out on brandan with the show.

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01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 9: It's just fun.

1514
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:21,480
Speaker 10: What's that episode?

1515
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: So again Lucy Lucy?

1516
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: No, it's not Lucy and not Lucy Lucy. Grizilla is

1517
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: in Gregory Hills.

1518
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 12: Hello.

1519
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 15: Hello.

1520
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: Do you know the name of the dog that Lisa

1521
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: vand Pump and a husband adopted from a rescue?

1522
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: Is it Smoky?

1523
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 15: No?

1524
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: Smoking?

1525
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: Jean's in Liverpool, Hello, Jean, Hi there. Do you know

1526
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: the name of the dog that they rescued that became

1527
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: part of puppy Gate scandal. It's not It's gg Yes,

1528
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: it is.

1529
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 10: Us.

1530
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 2: I am a fish.

1531
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: That's the dog speaking there. You have won one thousand dollars,

1532
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: Gene Jean Jean.

1533
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 2: As simple as that.

1534
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: But it's not. This supposibly be the most convoluted figure.

1535
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: Many people do. Skippy tomorrow? Is that on Foxtel.

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01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 3: Foxtel like a one stop shop for world's best entertainment.

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01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,479
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Speaker 3: even more streaming apps, Fox Talk, Tell all in one place.

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01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: It'll be back again tomorrow.

1540
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 11: Thank you.

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01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: Jeane, Jem jam nationid getting close to twenty thousand dollars cash.

1542
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: Twenty thousand dollars house, would you like to win twenty

1543
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: thousand dollars just for being a gholie of the year.

1544
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: That's what you have to do.

1545
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: Let us know what your gooolies are.

1546
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: What have we got?

1547
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 4: What's getting my ghoulies is where's the thank you wave gone?

1548
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 4: You know, the one you give to thank another driver?

1549
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Speaker 1: So letting you in.

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Speaker 4: I just did my hourly long commute home and I

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Speaker 4: let no less than probably three drivers change the lineanes

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Speaker 4: not one wave. I mean, what's happened? It doesn't really

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Speaker 4: take much effort, does it anyways? Getting my goolies bring

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Speaker 4: back the.

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Speaker 1: Wave, Bring back the wave?

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Speaker 2: You get bumper stickers?

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Speaker 1: Mate? There was a radio station did they campaign?

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Speaker 2: And still there likes to say bring back the finger.

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Speaker 1: I think the breadth. I think the mixed breakfast show's

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Speaker 1: doing very well these days. What else have we got?

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Speaker 12: You know what gets my gooolies?

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Speaker 2: My gulie is driving in the right hand lane and

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Speaker 2: a car comes up I and you wanting you to

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Speaker 2: go faster.

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Speaker 12: They get around you, and then they come up to

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Speaker 12: the same redlight as you. They didn't get anywhere that's

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Speaker 12: what gets my goolies no, because they.

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Speaker 1: Probably would have got through the red light if you

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Speaker 1: weren't mucking around in the wrong lane.

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Speaker 2: Come on, Brendan, we accept all goolies here.

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Speaker 1: With the bedroom with the goody.

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Speaker 3: If you do DOABT, you can always contact us via

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Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Was a favorite caller, email or Facebook friend gets a

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars thanks to Foxtell. They're like Fox so it

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Speaker 2: was like the one stop shop for the best entertainment

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Speaker 2: from all around the world. Blockbuster movies, drama, live sport

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Speaker 2: and now more streaming apps Foxtel all in one place.

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Speaker 3: JONESI Man, Tita and Keyring going your way as well

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Speaker 3: this morning thanks to Fox will Tell. By the way,

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Speaker 3: Carolyn from Illawong was on the show showing off all

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Speaker 3: her knowledge about the Real Housewives of Beverly Hill.

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Speaker 2: Well, she was the one who nominated that that was

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Speaker 2: the show. She wanted to be quizzed on three questions.

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Speaker 2: If she got question three right, she'd get one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: If she gets any of them wrong, you guys join in.

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Speaker 2: But she said nope, this was her domain.

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Speaker 1: No one in the history of this has actually managed

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Speaker 1: to go all the way.

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Speaker 2: Question one for you from the Real Housewives like Kevity Hills,

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Speaker 2: here we go, who was the only original cast member

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Speaker 2: that's remained on the show for all seasons.

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Speaker 1: I would put that as being a Lisna on and

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Speaker 1: Carol improved that again.

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Speaker 2: Today the answer was Carl Richard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cup, Carol, if.

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Speaker 2: You've ever watched a Brandon I've watched half an episode.

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Speaker 2: Right at you, two, that's enough. Don't forget the song

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Speaker 2: to listen out for is Let's hear it for the boy.

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Speaker 2: You will hear that sometime before six pm. Give us

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Speaker 2: a call thirteen WSFM. You'll win a thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back from six to night for jam nation

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Speaker 1: here then, goodid you well? Thank god that's over. Good bite,

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Speaker 1: good bite, wipe the two.

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Speaker 10: You're right.

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Speaker 2: You catch Jonesy and Amanda's podcast on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Good Bye, Jones.

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Speaker 2: Catch up on what you've missed on the free iHeartRadio app.