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Speaker 1: On today's episode with Tobias, the fourth eliminated contestant from
Speaker 1: this year's Australian Survivor on Network ten, I will be
Speaker 1: talking about Tobias's time in Samoa and of course what
Speaker 1: he thinks now that the smoke has been well and
Speaker 1: truly snuffed out on his torch. Australian Survivor Titans Versus
Speaker 1: Rebels is a showdown that pits the winners against the
Speaker 1: underdogs and the big wigs against the battlers, with each
Speaker 1: player competing for a grand prize of half a million dollars.
Speaker 1: Tobias is from Byron Bay, New South Wales. As a
Speaker 1: member of the Cuddle Crew, Tobias found himself blindsided on
Speaker 1: the Rebels second Tribal Council, which was a surprise for
Speaker 1: us as an audience seeing as that we never got
Speaker 1: to see his story package as it was the majority
Speaker 1: alliance in the Rebels team intended to blindside Alex over
Speaker 1: him and the split vote, but it was Kelly who
Speaker 1: went rogue unexpectedly switching her vote to Tobias, causing his elimination.
Speaker 1: Tobias will talk about his Rebels team mate. It's including
Speaker 1: why he didn't like Kelly and how he knew she
Speaker 1: would vote for him. He will unpack throwing the challenge
Speaker 1: and why that was a mistake for his long game.
Speaker 1: I will address the demise of the Cuddle Alliance, and
Speaker 1: then we will dive into his relationship with Sarah. Plus
Speaker 1: he will explain why if he found an idol he
Speaker 1: would throw it away into the ocean. There is so
Speaker 1: much to unpack with Tobias, and he's really generous with
Speaker 1: his time. So sit back and relax as we dive
Speaker 1: just that little bit deeper to the world of Australian Survivor,
Speaker 1: which continues this Sunday night at seven thirty on Network ten. Hi, Tobias,
Speaker 1: how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm really good, I'm really good. How are you?
Speaker 1: Very excited to be talking to you. I have to
Speaker 1: say I'm a little surprised. I'm a little surprised I'm
Speaker 1: talking to you same.
Speaker 2: I was surprised as well. I didn't see it coming.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think anyone saw the result coming in
Speaker 1: the tribal council. How do you feel about it now looking.
Speaker 2: Back on it.
Speaker 3: I don't know how they didn't realize that Kell would
Speaker 3: have swung her vote. Me and Kell butted heads at camp.
Speaker 3: They didn't really show it in adits, but we didn't
Speaker 3: get along that well. I didn't really like her at
Speaker 3: the time. I love her now she's great, but at
Speaker 3: the time I was pretty off her, so I made
Speaker 3: it clear that I wanted I would have happily gotten
Speaker 3: rid of her. I'm not surprised that she voted for
Speaker 3: me at all, not in the slightest, but I'm surprised
Speaker 3: that Eileen didn't realize that she would have voted for me.
Speaker 2: So maybe Aileen.
Speaker 3: Should have been ainsight, got the girls to vote for
Speaker 3: me and the boys to vote for Alex. Then she
Speaker 3: wouldn't have had the opportunity to vote, and wouldn't have
Speaker 3: had to keep telling her that she had to vote
Speaker 3: for Alex, not me. But hey, hindsight's beautiful.
Speaker 1: You were pretty confident, though, with your strength and your
Speaker 1: effort to help around the camp, that you would be safe.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that strategy was wrong now?
Speaker 3: I think throwing that first challenge was wrong. She shouldn't
Speaker 3: have done that, probably wouldn't have ended up in this
Speaker 3: situation we were in. But yeah, look, maybe I should
Speaker 3: have been played trying to play the game a bit more.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to win challenges because I figured that
Speaker 3: we win challenge besides that one that we through that
Speaker 3: was so stupid.
Speaker 2: But even after.
Speaker 3: That, the crew would have been like, look, let's go
Speaker 3: with the smart option. People obviously an't pulling their weight
Speaker 3: around camp. Maybe we should lose some of out deadweight
Speaker 3: before we start picking the place apart. But I guess
Speaker 3: people were playing their game from the day one, and
Speaker 3: I was like kind of waiting, I was going to
Speaker 3: start playing my game a little bit further down the track.
Speaker 3: In hindsight, I should have started playing from the start,
Speaker 3: from the beginning, from first day.
Speaker 1: I mean, you do hear other players saying, oh, I
Speaker 1: do want to be the personal kick gets sort of
Speaker 1: kicked out for flying under the radar. So I'm just
Speaker 1: going to go really really hard straight away. But the
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, it's almost like you don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes people are absolutely rewarded for flying under
Speaker 1: the radar for as long as they can, and then
Speaker 1: sometimes they accidentally get bumped out like what we saw
Speaker 1: with you. But do you know what I feel like
Speaker 1: with you? I don't know if we got to know
Speaker 1: you as well as we did with Frankie, Jessica and Peter.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like those three people,
Speaker 1: we really got to see some juiciest storylines. We felt
Speaker 1: like we knew them a little bit better. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like watching it back that it was an editor's
Speaker 1: decision to hide you from the episodes, you know, so
Speaker 1: that we were so shocked because everyone was shocked watching
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, Like I've got a pretty big personality, like
Speaker 3: and I was quite vocal.
Speaker 2: I probably wasn't. I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I was super confident and vocal, but I wasn't entwined
Speaker 3: in the drama like the other people were. I was
Speaker 3: like playing my challenges strongly. I was doing everything around camp.
Speaker 3: I was trying to play both games, be physical and
Speaker 3: fit and strong and do that and help us win
Speaker 3: in that respect, and also win the hearts of everyone
Speaker 3: around camp and make sure that I was doing what
Speaker 3: I needed to do, cooking dinners, making fires, fixing the
Speaker 3: shelter so everyone was happy. And I thought I had
Speaker 3: a good grasp across the board of keeping everyone happy.
Speaker 3: But I can see how my alliance with the other
Speaker 3: three and people would have realized that a, I'm likable,
Speaker 3: be I'm good at challenges, and they would have realized
Speaker 3: that it's only a matter of time before we gain
Speaker 3: some traction. So they're like, we need to pick these
Speaker 3: people apart regardless, And.
Speaker 1: Like, do you think it's that though? Do you think
Speaker 1: that there was some jealousy because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I mean, you're all pretty cute in the
Speaker 1: cuddle alliance and you're all having a great time. Like
Speaker 1: I'm at home and I'm jealous I'm not getting any cuddles,
Speaker 1: So like maybe the peripheral was jealous of the connection,
Speaker 1: or do you think it's because they're like, we're going
Speaker 1: to really cut this alliance because it's the first one
Speaker 1: to stand out.
Speaker 3: Well, I think I think with kel and she didn't
Speaker 3: like the relationship I had with Sarah because we were
Speaker 3: pretty tight.
Speaker 2: So like we were.
Speaker 3: Tight, and I think everyone knew that they weren't going
Speaker 3: to be able to split me and her up regardless,
Speaker 3: Like and probably even Alex as well after Peter went.
Speaker 3: They weren't going to split us up. So they had
Speaker 3: to do something to split us up. But also Kel
Speaker 3: kind of in the background was like always there with
Speaker 3: Sarah and always been like he's playing you, he's playing you.
Speaker 3: She thought I was playing Sarah, which I wasn't. Like sarah'school.
Speaker 3: We go along well, we were like our personalities worked
Speaker 3: well together, and we became mates pretty quickly, like goodnighte
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: Just kept jump in on that though, because like, did
Speaker 1: you go on a date with her after the show?
Speaker 1: Because there were some bits and pieces like that we
Speaker 1: got to see and we're like, oh, there's a real
Speaker 1: connection going on here happened now?
Speaker 2: No, we like we got along really.
Speaker 1: Well, super cute, really good looking. I think your both single.
Speaker 2: Like I've got to get friends.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let me just stop talking about this altogether then,
Speaker 1: and let's never let her listen to the podcast.
Speaker 2: It's so fine. So yeah, Sarah's cool, she's amazing, Like
Speaker 2: we're mates, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we were tight, and I don't know, I
Speaker 3: think there was a bit of jealousy with Kel because
Speaker 3: Kel and Sarah go along well, and Kel was kind
Speaker 3: of like Sarah would nearly like mother.
Speaker 2: Keller bit because it's pretty all over the shot and she'd.
Speaker 1: Be like really, but nowhere noticed, Oh yeah, well right.
Speaker 2: She'd like to be like nearly seem a bit manic,
Speaker 2: and then she'd be like crying, and then she's like laughing,
Speaker 2: and then constantly like.
Speaker 3: I guess, Sarah was always really suing her and stuff,
Speaker 3: and Kel hated that me and Sarah were so tight,
Speaker 3: so she wanted to get rid of me. And plus
Speaker 3: me and Kel didn't really get along because I was
Speaker 3: off her for not pulling away, so she was happy
Speaker 3: to get rid of me. And then everyone else was
Speaker 3: kind of like, we need to pick these guys apart.
Speaker 3: We can't keep them together. They are not Once it
Speaker 3: gets down to like one on one stuff, they're.
Speaker 2: Going to do well.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, why are we getting rid of
Speaker 1: this person? I mean, Kel is, you know, really hard
Speaker 1: to live with. I'm sure she's a beautiful person and
Speaker 1: you can see that, but like we often see in
Speaker 1: these elimination shows that these characters that are a little
Speaker 1: bit like mister Bean or Bridget Jones, like they're sort
Speaker 1: of like these eccentric characters that driving people nuts. They
Speaker 1: seem to survive the vote.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is just my idea, but I
Speaker 3: would personally, I'd keep Kell before I kept myself, because
Speaker 3: if I comes down to a one or one challenge,
Speaker 3: I'm going against me or I'm going against Kel. I'm
Speaker 3: way more worried about going against me than going against her.
Speaker 3: Like if there's something that's physically demanding where we have
Speaker 3: to god knows what, just so some one on one challenge.
Speaker 2: To every man for himself. I don't want to go
Speaker 2: against me. I got stabborn. I'm do that shit all day, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I've played a pretty integral part in the
Speaker 3: challenge challenges we won. Like saw the one that we
Speaker 3: were holding up the net with the coconuts. See the
Speaker 3: size of dag and Viola.
Speaker 2: Yeah we held it. We were there were holding it
Speaker 2: nose Guy's like go like like I literally could do
Speaker 2: that shit all day.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I get where she came from, and
Speaker 3: it was probably a smart move on her behalf because
Speaker 3: I would have got rid of when I could.
Speaker 1: But what is she doing with Alex though? I mean everyone,
Speaker 1: I mean we as the viewers are privileged to know
Speaker 1: that we can see that he doesn't like Kel and
Speaker 1: he wants Kel gone, and that hell shouldn't trust him,
Speaker 1: but then to flip like you know, in that moment,
Speaker 1: and that's how we saw it. It was really hard
Speaker 1: for us to watch because everyone, I believe everyone in
Speaker 1: Australia screamed at the screen and said no, don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well I think also like they didn't actually show the
Speaker 3: editor's cart was like they didn't show Kell and I
Speaker 3: and like me saying how much I disliked her and
Speaker 3: how much I was.
Speaker 1: We saw that though, because she came over to ask
Speaker 1: you to scramble and you didn't even lift your head.
Speaker 1: You were like, that's the response I give to flies
Speaker 1: and mosquitos to come around me, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like how do we get rid of the pest?
Speaker 1: So like she was in her right in that respect,
Speaker 1: and we did get to see the fact that you'd
Speaker 1: ignored her, because that's a pivotal point watching it back,
Speaker 1: I feel like if you said let's go do the scramble,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe she might might have played it differently.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't think she she wanted to spit me
Speaker 3: and Sarah regardless, Like she wanted Sarah on her side,
Speaker 3: backing her, okay, and she knew that if it came
Speaker 3: down to it, and I was like, Sarah, you need
Speaker 3: to vote for kel. Sarah would have voted for her, okay,
Speaker 3: So she wanted she wanted to split us up regardless.
Speaker 3: So I don't even think any of us spoke to her.
Speaker 3: She wouldn't have changed her mind, No way she would
Speaker 3: have changed her mind.
Speaker 1: She was like, when he's gone, damn it, she's done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what. Yeah. Hearing that loud and clear.
Speaker 1: Now you know the rise of Eileen amongst those big personalities,
Speaker 1: last night gave us like a really likable story arc
Speaker 1: for her, and I can imagine the fans are going
Speaker 1: to be obsessed with her. Now do you think that
Speaker 1: she can stand out and run the rebels tried?
Speaker 2: She definitely like she put in her all.
Speaker 3: I know that because like when there was even like
Speaker 3: down to opening coconuts, she wasn't the best at it,
Speaker 3: but she was always having a crack, like she was
Speaker 3: always like putting in one hundred percent and anything that
Speaker 3: she couldn't do, like I was pretty good at without
Speaker 3: sounding like.
Speaker 1: A Blenka, I love that tell us to be a wenker.
Speaker 3: I was good at everything around camp, at lighting fires,
Speaker 3: I'm good at lifting staff, building stuff.
Speaker 1: Whatever I noticed. I was like, you were good at everything.
Speaker 1: All my favorite things about survivor people in the peripheral
Speaker 1: is you know he's helping out, he's doing anything he can.
Speaker 1: He's good to look at. You had all these things.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, exactly, and like she's always asking, she's I
Speaker 2: was like, how do you do this? Can you have
Speaker 2: me with this? Can you help me with this?
Speaker 3: And you know what, also I maybe did I thought
Speaker 3: I could use my chalel and my good looks on
Speaker 3: her and kind of manipulate a it and get her
Speaker 3: to vote with me on something.
Speaker 2: And I made that kind of clear. I remember at
Speaker 2: one point she was just like, no, Toby, I'm not
Speaker 2: following for your bullshit. It's just like she saw straight
Speaker 2: through it.
Speaker 1: You played too hard. Yeah, that's when you put the
Speaker 1: cards on the table and you're like, Okay, maybe shouldn't
Speaker 1: have done that. Just some nice eye contact every now
Speaker 1: and again, less you know, corb, Yeah, another little wing
Speaker 1: every I know, the wink is disgusting as anyone ever linked.
Speaker 3: Wow prig I love but that week in his provo,
Speaker 3: it was just an interesting dynamic. The whole thing was
Speaker 3: an interesting dynamic. I think that everyone thought that Alex
Speaker 3: was going to go home.
Speaker 2: Literally everyone.
Speaker 1: I heard people that were watching Maths on a different
Speaker 1: channel say Alex was going home, so they were Alex.
Speaker 3: Has gone, Alex has gone, and like, yeah, it was
Speaker 3: actually interesting to see it all on fold because I
Speaker 3: had no idea who set that plan into motion.
Speaker 2: I didn't know how, I didn't know why.
Speaker 3: I had no idea, but I guess it was just
Speaker 3: to make Shareah picksides and be like all right, them
Speaker 3: making it clear that they can pick us apart, and
Speaker 3: knowing that they had control they controlled.
Speaker 1: But it makes me wonder because I'm asking about Eileen
Speaker 1: and whether or not she could be the person who
Speaker 1: runs rebels. There's also Kirby who clearly thinks that she's
Speaker 1: running rebels. And then you've got Ferris, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: he's going to run the show. Like at this point
Speaker 1: of the game when you left, did you have if
Speaker 1: you had to put money on it, if you had
Speaker 1: to put on who's going to end up running that
Speaker 1: and have the most amount of influence? Who is that person?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I actually don't. I actually am soliblyvious as
Speaker 3: to what happened, like moving.
Speaker 1: Forward, but well that's about what you would know, but
Speaker 1: more about what you would guess.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 3: I like Ferris, and Ferris Is some of the things
Speaker 3: he did like and just the looks he gave and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like this guy. He's a really smart guy. He's likable.
Speaker 2: He can make you like go.
Speaker 3: From not liking him to liking him in a split second.
Speaker 3: He's a mastermind, and I could see him running the show.
Speaker 3: But also Kirby, like Kirby, super smart, sits back, observes Faris.
Speaker 2: I feel like those who have got very similar personality.
Speaker 2: I can sit back observe.
Speaker 3: Maybe Ferris's manipulative behavior is more, you can see it more,
Speaker 3: whereas Kirby flies under the radar with it.
Speaker 2: So I reckon between those who one of those.
Speaker 3: Who would have been running a tribe for sure or
Speaker 3: will be running the tribe for sure moving.
Speaker 1: Forward, because I mean, for me, you know, he's a
Speaker 1: big player, and he's pulled some pretty big moves, But
Speaker 1: I don't feel like any of those risks that he's
Speaker 1: talked about that he's wanted to play to maybe get
Speaker 1: some agency and you know, have become a favorite with
Speaker 1: the fans and all that kind of stuff. I just
Speaker 1: don't know if it's paid off for him, especially, hasn't
Speaker 1: paid off for his friends, so it seems very reckless,
Speaker 1: like great Speedo's mate. But I think you're going home soon.
Speaker 3: Those things just him payoff, Like we shouldn't have thrown
Speaker 3: that challenge. And you know the funny thing, even though
Speaker 3: we threw the challenge, we lost by it was literally
Speaker 3: those blocks both winning those puzzles at the exact same time.
Speaker 3: It would have taken us one footstep, one hard to
Speaker 3: push on the sled, or one one slingshot that I
Speaker 3: intentionally didn't do, and we would.
Speaker 2: Have won accidentally.
Speaker 3: Like I've been the hindsight, we actually like could have
Speaker 3: smoked that challenge, and we would have won so many
Speaker 3: more if we had to just stuck together.
Speaker 1: So Raymond missing out on those you know, those immunity
Speaker 1: idols feels like a little bit on brand for Raymond,
Speaker 1: like and Rama. You know, I think I like Raymond.
Speaker 1: I think he sort of comes across like this odd ball,
Speaker 1: but in a really kind of likable, captive kind of way.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's nice to see someone different in a
Speaker 1: pack full of people like this.
Speaker 2: You know what, he's different?
Speaker 3: I like, right, he's an odd character. He definitely sat
Speaker 3: back and observed and would just like wander off and
Speaker 3: do stuff. He was very, very nonchalant in what he's doing.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's a bit more calculated than he came across as,
Speaker 3: but then also maybe not.
Speaker 2: I know, he knows the game very well.
Speaker 3: He is easy to like, but also there were some
Speaker 3: times that like he'd walk around the camp and just
Speaker 3: talk about rubbish and everyone was just like, shut up,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Or like you just hear
Speaker 3: him just start pissing himself, laughing to himself and we're like,
Speaker 3: what are you?
Speaker 2: Are you good? Like, you're right.
Speaker 1: But it's great though, because it's you know what, it's like,
Speaker 1: it's that kind of joker vibe, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it's the insane person that giggles to themselves. It
Speaker 1: actually for the viewer, And I think what people don't
Speaker 1: understand about being in the experience versus being a viewer
Speaker 1: is how those things work. And like, I think it's
Speaker 1: a really good strategy for Ray with the fans out
Speaker 1: there watching this show. His likability to be that kooky,
Speaker 1: crazy nut job on the side, yeah, well, I mean
Speaker 1: no one, no.
Speaker 3: One really disliked him. It was like he got a
Speaker 3: bit annoying at times, but no one disliked him. He
Speaker 3: didn't stand out and made people not like him, which
Speaker 3: was fine, and like people probably wouldn't have voted him out,
Speaker 3: just like he would have probably got votes just because
Speaker 3: or got voted out because he didn't do a lot
Speaker 3: around camp and stuff. Simo de Calbert was definitely not
Speaker 3: as annoying Askel, so he would have just like flown
Speaker 3: under the radar.
Speaker 1: Bit definitely gives you those vibes that you know when
Speaker 1: he grew up his mum, you know, came and collected
Speaker 1: the dishes from his bedroom and you know, watching, you know,
Speaker 1: you get those vibes from him.
Speaker 2: That maybe like, yeah, I get that absolutely.
Speaker 1: Do you think that those two idols though, could have
Speaker 1: been found by anyone else? Because I kind of felt
Speaker 1: like that was set up for Ferris because Ferris had
Speaker 1: already seen the box, so dropping some keys into that
Speaker 1: reward at that point, people would have known that Ferris
Speaker 1: is going to run straight to that box. So it
Speaker 1: felt like, do you even question those sorts of parts
Speaker 1: of the game where you think, well, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: I reckon that, like maybe if that box hadn't been
Speaker 3: found although like even if the box wasn't found, they
Speaker 3: probably wanted him to find it sooner than later. So
Speaker 3: like to throw a bit more especially into our time
Speaker 3: because we had been we had one challenges, Like there
Speaker 3: wasn't there was a bit of drama going on, but
Speaker 3: it wasn't wild.
Speaker 2: So to throw that in the metnix was a good thing.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, it's hard to say, like maybe
Speaker 3: if you hadn't found it, those keys wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Have been in that reward. But then like who had
Speaker 2: a clue to a thing in these banana which obviously
Speaker 2: like would have been planted there at the time for sure,
Speaker 2: like they would have given.
Speaker 1: Them those bananas, would just hand it out. It's not
Speaker 1: like there was like a banana with everyone's name on.
Speaker 3: It, no, No, but like that was definitely like so
Speaker 3: like they probably would have been like, all right, we
Speaker 3: want these guys to find there's an idol here.
Speaker 2: We're going to put a clue in this one because
Speaker 2: everyone's too under find it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it was like everyone was too scared to
Speaker 3: go searching for idols, like people would do it on
Speaker 3: the like obviously trying to do it, so synekly. I
Speaker 3: had a couple of little looks, but like, I wasn't
Speaker 3: actively out hunting. I think Ray was actively out hunting,
Speaker 3: and he kept getting strung making people suspicious. So like,
Speaker 3: I think the more you were out hunting, the more
Speaker 3: suspicious people are of you, and then they don't trust you.
Speaker 3: So I think it was it was a hard scenario,
Speaker 3: but yeah, those keys were probably definitely well because.
Speaker 2: He found that. They were like, all right, let's saw
Speaker 2: this in here and let's spice it up a bit.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, listen, here, fuckers, we've all got to
Speaker 1: get got to find an idol. If they saw me
Speaker 1: in the bush looking for the idol, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: that's because I need this thing and you all need
Speaker 1: it too. So like, if you've got a problem with
Speaker 1: me looking for an idol, that's because you think that
Speaker 1: you can't look for one yourself. I think we should
Speaker 1: all be doing the EMU parade and going through the
Speaker 1: grass and looking for whatever whatever we can find, and
Speaker 1: good luck to whoever can find it. To not look
Speaker 1: for an idol to me how to get all of that,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was like, literally, at so early in the game,
Speaker 3: I was like, let's keep the team united and not
Speaker 3: try and split it apart. Besides the fact that we
Speaker 3: threw a challenge, but there was a point that I
Speaker 3: even said to people when we were looking, when we
Speaker 3: had the key and we're off looking, there was a
Speaker 3: point that I said something like if I find if
Speaker 3: I find an idol, like, if there's a group of
Speaker 3: us I find an idol, I'm probably going to stroll
Speaker 3: it in the ocean, fuck with everyone, and or like
Speaker 3: do something with it, because it's like, what do you
Speaker 3: do if you find one and everyone knows you found it.
Speaker 3: It's like either they're going to pick on you to
Speaker 3: make you flush it. Well, no one's going to trust you.
Speaker 3: I'd rather if I found one, I'm just gonna be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: if people knew I found it, so here.
Speaker 2: Get rid of it.
Speaker 1: We'll give it to the person that needs it the most.
Speaker 1: You know that that would well give it to the
Speaker 1: person Do you know what I would do? And this
Speaker 1: is like no one cares what I would do, but
Speaker 1: I would almost give it to the person that dislikes
Speaker 1: me the most in the team, who I'm the most
Speaker 1: dubious of. If I found an idol, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give this to you you I mean,
Speaker 1: and sure they could go to the you know, do
Speaker 1: their piece of camera and be like that guy Benjamin's
Speaker 1: not not all there? Why would he? Why would he
Speaker 1: have done this and then ruin it. I trust in
Speaker 1: people's relationships. I trust in a quid pro quote type
Speaker 1: thing and you know, developing relationships. But what do you
Speaker 1: reckon about Ferris playing that idol now though, because what's
Speaker 1: going to stop everyone from getting rid of him next week?
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't have that action?
Speaker 3: I think I think it was well, it was smart
Speaker 3: because he definitely knew that people were gunning for him.
Speaker 2: I don't think he trusted he trusted people. I mean,
Speaker 2: look it was it was.
Speaker 3: Done in the long run because he didn't need to
Speaker 3: play it. But if I was him in that situation,
Speaker 3: feeling how he felt, I would have played it too.
Speaker 3: And like the other thing that they didn't show is
Speaker 3: we cooked. I cooked dinner for everyone, told everyone dinner
Speaker 3: was ready. Ferris wandered off to do something, and then
Speaker 3: by the time he got back, I didn't realize that
Speaker 3: all the food was gone. He didn't even eat, so
Speaker 3: he was probably even more more rattled because he hadn't
Speaker 3: eaten or tired and stressed because like you saw his face,
Speaker 3: everyone was just like he was. He was freaking out
Speaker 3: and so was like people were freaking out. Grek was
Speaker 3: freaking out. Remember at one point, gall beside, I mean, like,
Speaker 3: is it me?
Speaker 2: Am I going? And I'm like, now, bro, like, you're
Speaker 2: nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be asking you considering that you were
Speaker 1: the person going. You're the most confident, don't worry abouta mate.
Speaker 2: I'd have been the vote before that, he said that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, look, if I was first at that point,
Speaker 3: I would have played it too, feeling how he would
Speaker 3: have been feeling because he knows he knew that I
Speaker 3: seemed trust him, and he knew that everyone everyone knew
Speaker 3: he found something. It is no matter how many times
Speaker 3: he said he didn't and he said, we believed him.
Speaker 3: Everyone knew that he found.
Speaker 1: Some trip down. When they said take off your clothes
Speaker 1: and they didn't do that, I was like, what are
Speaker 1: you guys doing? Make him take off this? No, not
Speaker 1: not in a lude way, but yes, he was saying
Speaker 1: that's to call to everyone's bluff, and everyonee went, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I think it was even you that was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we're all friends, now, let's not make him take his
Speaker 1: clothes off.
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, he I should have just
Speaker 2: made him do it.
Speaker 3: I thought that because me and him had been talking after,
Speaker 3: like before that, and I thought if he had Onney
Speaker 3: might have told me because we like, we're signed to
Speaker 3: click and we're like, all right, oh, let's try and
Speaker 3: fucking do something part language.
Speaker 1: So I think as well, though, maybe Garrek will use
Speaker 1: his idol, because you know, they've both got idols. So
Speaker 1: then maybe if Feris gets into trouble, maybe he will
Speaker 1: step up and hand him an idol next time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's that's the other funny thing.
Speaker 3: How to be honest, If I was Feris when I
Speaker 3: found even though people were looking for something with a key,
Speaker 3: I probably would have letted people astray because there's only
Speaker 3: so long everyone's going to be looking for stuff.
Speaker 2: No one's going to keep looking for hours and hours
Speaker 2: and hours. On me, there's three keys. I would have.
Speaker 3: Waited and try and tried to pick that thing off
Speaker 3: at night or when there's no one around, and kept
Speaker 3: two idols for myself. But instead he got he knew
Speaker 3: where it was, so let everyone to it, and then
Speaker 3: everyone else was already sus so everyone's, yeah, well you've.
Speaker 1: Just mentioned what I would have done. I would have
Speaker 1: just been like, hope no one finds it with this
Speaker 1: search and discovery meeting that we're doing now, wait for
Speaker 1: everyone to fall asleep and have the two idols. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know there's two idols in there.
Speaker 1: You don't know any of those things, so it's hard
Speaker 1: to sort of Can I ask you? If you had
Speaker 1: the key that unlocks a box on the Titans team
Speaker 1: and you could form an alliance with someone over there,
Speaker 1: who would you have picked from the limited interaction that
Speaker 1: you guys have these two groups have had. Who would
Speaker 1: you have wanted to form an alliance with at this point?
Speaker 2: Knowing what I know now, probably the middle age Marfa.
Speaker 3: At that point in time, I probably ended would have
Speaker 3: ended up butting up with like Nathan and Jayden and stuff,
Speaker 3: because like strong fit dudes, similar personalities me Nathan like
Speaker 3: become mates. Now, I probably would have clicked with those guys,
Speaker 3: But knowing what I know now, it should have been
Speaker 3: the other guys like age.
Speaker 2: Like I'm forty one, like I'm middle aged. I probably
Speaker 2: should have been in that group.
Speaker 1: Do you know what though, it's interesting when you see
Speaker 1: that limited interaction between the two groups because I like
Speaker 1: the gossip and the comments about the guy in the
Speaker 1: blue speeders. It really does highlight how much those two
Speaker 1: teams don't really know each other at this point of
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 3: No, no, you like, like after challenges and stuff, because
Speaker 3: we end up always it would be like me and
Speaker 3: Alex or some against Jayden and Nathan, and like Nathan's
Speaker 3: bigger than.
Speaker 2: Me, Jayden's twice my size, but we end up going
Speaker 2: up against.
Speaker 3: Him because we're probably the most physical guys on our
Speaker 3: team against the most physical guys and antid but we
Speaker 3: grow out afterwards. We'd be talking and having a quick
Speaker 3: chart and stuff whenever we could, so like we were
Speaker 3: already forming bonds and that's just how that that's.
Speaker 2: Just how that works.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's interesting. We get to this point
Speaker 1: of the podcast and I'm like, oh, we kind of
Speaker 1: talked about everybody, but then like Rihanna and Scott, I
Speaker 1: haven't even really mentioned them in the podcast so far.
Speaker 1: We're at episode four, is Ree and Scott are they
Speaker 1: people that viewers have not seen and we're missing out
Speaker 1: on something like.
Speaker 3: Scott that Scott's pretty quiet. He's pretty chill, like pretty reserved, prety, laidback.
Speaker 3: He is definitely a wallflower. I think probably didn't phantas
Speaker 3: he is like probably very different to everyone, like smart dude,
Speaker 3: lovely human, beautiful guy, raids a bit more outgoing.
Speaker 2: She didn't see her personally, she's pretty.
Speaker 3: She's a really funny girl, very outgoing, good personally, good humor.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you didn't see a lot of that either,
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm assuming moving forward we're going to see
Speaker 3: more of her. Scott is to quiet dude, pretty chill,
Speaker 3: So no, I don't think he was just pretty reserved
Speaker 3: the whole time that I was there anyway, So we
Speaker 3: didn't really they didn't haven't really skipped him out of it,
Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely, I think they've edited re out a bit.
Speaker 3: It's weird watching editing now, so there's so many things
Speaker 3: that are like not there or like they missed a
Speaker 3: few years.
Speaker 2: There's an epic battle that happens on that pontoon where
Speaker 2: Sarah actually like.
Speaker 3: Annihilated Valeria, like lattened her in two seconds, and it
Speaker 3: was like one of the epic shots.
Speaker 2: But it was probably maybe it was a bit too brutal.
Speaker 2: They didn't show it.
Speaker 1: I don't think they say that after watching George almost
Speaker 1: getting decapitated last year. I think the producers are happy
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 2: That battle was where I wrestled Jaden.
Speaker 3: That was like, that was pretty hectic that afterwards My
Speaker 3: team was like, you're right, and I was fine, but
Speaker 3: like I was like busted knees and stuff like I've
Speaker 3: got smoked.
Speaker 2: Jade's a big guy.
Speaker 3: Huge and just like so much having two hands on
Speaker 3: the thing, just like grabbed me and pulled threw me
Speaker 3: under the ground. I actually lasted longer than I thought
Speaker 3: I was against him when I in my memory I
Speaker 3: got smoked in about two seconds. But watching it back,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I actually did all right? Like
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: I think you did well. I'm told you from a
Speaker 1: viewers perspective, Look, we have to go. So I'm very sad.
Speaker 1: I've probably asked you like about half of the question.
Speaker 1: I have so much that I would love to know,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of the other people that
Speaker 1: are doing like these podcasts and interviews will unearth some
Speaker 1: of that. So hopefully the fans can get to hear
Speaker 1: that there. But before you go, I've got a question
Speaker 1: I've added in now which I'm going to do every week,
Speaker 1: and in your words, if you can finish this sentence
Speaker 1: for me in the Game of Survivor.
Speaker 3: In the Game of Survivor, I learned to not throw
Speaker 3: challenges on your first tribal.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. Pull your heading. Guys.
Speaker 1: See, people are going to listen to this when they
Speaker 1: apply to go next year, so they're going to be like, thanks, thanks.
Speaker 2: And you've got a good chance of gon't throw it.
Speaker 2: You don't want to go to tibal councler, stay away
Speaker 2: from it.
Speaker 1: The last question ask is something? Ask everyone, what is
Speaker 1: something from behind the scenes, something we didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to see, something that you can reveal. That's kind
Speaker 1: of a bit of an easter egg for your time
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 2: I actually did way better than they showed on the
Speaker 2: scene shot. It made me look appalling. I did.
Speaker 3: I actually did really well, but a little slide of hand,
Speaker 3: a little bit of magic that made me look real bad.
Speaker 1: It makes great It does make great television, does it
Speaker 1: does it makes I have had such a good time
Speaker 1: talking to you today, Like I think you're so fantastic
Speaker 1: and it's got such a good vibe. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hate to use the word vibe, but I guess
Speaker 1: you are as vibe here. It's a team, it's it's
Speaker 1: a vibe. Enjoy chatting to the media. Thank you for
Speaker 1: taking the time and being so generous and chatting with
Speaker 1: me today. I had a really good time.
Speaker 2: No stress anytime,