1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: It's the Rym Wooding Podcast. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Woods loves a fence between his legs. Just to 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: spoil that's who we are talking about there. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: Would he metaphorically speaking, Although, no, no, that's because I'm 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: very good sitting on a fence. 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 4: Will we put that through the test. 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: And I mean, look, I mean I don't want me 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 3: to blow my own trumpet here, but Jesus, I was 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: good at getting on that fence. 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no, you were good, I said today, and 11 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: I meant it. The only fence sitter who might have 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: you your measure is the Queen who literally has been 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: a fence sitter for the royal family for twenty years, 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: so for sixty years, I should say, so. For you 15 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: to be said in the same sentence as there as 16 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: a fence sitter, impressive. It has to be heard to 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: be believed those guys, so you get that. On this episode, 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: he covers topics such as should you have to use 19 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: a fork? Or people that use forks in Chinese restaurants? 20 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, cover them all, baby. 21 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: We also speak to a sexologist called doctor Nicki Goldsteins. 22 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: It's actually about amazing stuff. At the start of the show, 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: it's all about men being vulnerable in the bedroom and 24 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: why they struggle to be that way, and why they 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: are not honest about what they need or want. I 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: don't want to go and do any more than that, 27 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: because the chat is awesome stuff. If you're in a 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: relationship or plan on being in a relationship at any stage, 29 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 3: must listen. 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah it's yeah, yeah, no, that blow is a bloody 31 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: good chat. Dean Lewis joins us as well. Bloody good, 32 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: bloody good gear. 33 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and we get in and around your return to 34 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: social media. I mean it's amazing, but again a bit 35 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: behind the scenes here. You've already deleted the app. 36 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've posted. The post is still there, so you 37 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 4: can go and see yeh. 38 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: Because I don't want because I want to use Instagram, 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: I don't want it to use me. 40 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: Oh they're the product. 41 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: You're not the product exactly, So I'm using them so 42 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: I use them to post my poetry on there. 43 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 5: Yep. 44 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to be caught up in the well 45 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: baited hook that they use for everybody, which is check 46 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: out who likes your post? 47 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: I don't you want a little bit of that. Look 48 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: at all those people saying I love my poem. 49 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Dove means a wonderful thing when you've got it, and 50 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: it's an awful thing when you don't, particularly after you've 51 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: had a big dose of it. So I just staying 52 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: away from it. 53 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: Just post another poem and get a bit more of. 54 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: That dopey Yeah, but I don't need that. That's see, 55 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: That's why I got off Instagram. 56 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're dangerous because I. 57 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: Didn't want to get fulfilled by other people liking it. 58 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: I want to get fulfilled by knowing that I've posted 59 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: a poem out in the world that you know, someone like, 60 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: someone like someone might get around. I don't need them 61 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: to get around me. I don't need them to reciprocate 62 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: that in order for me to feel good about myself. 63 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: I've already given them something that's the best love in 64 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: the world. The sun never says to the earth, you 65 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: owe me for heating you up every day. 66 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: It should though he's working hard up there. There's a 67 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: little bit of love anyway. 68 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: It's pretty much to show a guy so enjoyable see 69 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: it tomorrow. 70 00:02:52,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 6: And will Is Barbody doesn't care what. 71 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: We are talking right now, but I'm one to six 72 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: y five. Do you think it's hard for guys to 73 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: be vulnerable in the bedroom. Yeah, saucy question to start 74 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: the show and from school. 75 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: No, it's an interesting and we don't go into the 76 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: specifics there. This is a family friendly show, but it's 77 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: super interesting to think about are you vulnerable enough to 78 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: truly ask for what you want in the bedroom, especially 79 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: if that goes against you know, the archetypal matro man 80 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: and what he's supposed to look like in a bedroom. 81 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: Last night on Maps we saw Russell aka look alike 82 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: to Dan Andrews Victorian Premier talk about what he wants 83 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: in the bedroom. You know, quite frankly, it's not exactly 84 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: a posy or showy answer. 85 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: Well, I guess with me, I'm coming into pedestrians sort 86 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: of stuff. 87 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: Just me and the chicken. 88 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: Don't know much about the toy side sex with me. 89 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 7: He's kind of like go under a supermarket, not the 90 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 7: organic one where I don't know what anything is. 91 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: We can go low and slow like a brisket. 92 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: Sounds like you like a bit of like vanilla effect. 93 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: Kind And it was a shame to hear being canned. 94 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: He got candy for she Yeah, she sort of laughed 95 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: at him there, and good on Russell for being honest 96 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: and the binding. 97 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: Got caned for it as well, like you know, being 98 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: unoriginal and all that sort of stuff. And I think 99 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: it's a shame because I think it's really tough guys, 100 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: particularly straight guys, to be actually just be honest about 101 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: what they're into, because there's very much a stereotype we've 102 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: got to play into there. We've got doctor Nicki Goldstein, 103 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: who's the sex ologist from doctor Nicki shop dot com 104 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: dot u if you want to check out his stuff. 105 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: But doctor Nicki, what do you reckon about this? 106 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 5: Well, I think you're really right when you're saying that 107 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 5: this idea of men being vulnerable and being open and honest, 108 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 5: because I think really what we have to look about 109 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 5: when we speak about vulnerability. It's one of those trend 110 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 5: words that we throw around a lot, especially in Australia. 111 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 5: There is this unfest aernotype that a man should be 112 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: a certain way, and I even think it goes deeper 113 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 5: that it's not being a certain way. But we don't 114 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 5: teach men to ask what they want from the bedroom. 115 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 5: We teach them to dominate and control and to do 116 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 5: those things. So now we're saying to you guys, hey, 117 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 5: let's have a conversation about what you might like, and 118 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: it might not be stereotypically what we think and then 119 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: should want. It might be about even emotions and love 120 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 5: or something outside of that vanilla box. But we go 121 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 5: back into that stereotype of what should a guy be 122 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 5: doing in the bedroom because we have these societal ideas, 123 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: And what do you think. 124 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: Nikki So I said before, I mean, and I know 125 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: I'm stereotyping here, and maybe it is because I'm a 126 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: heterosexual guy. But like for girls, you know, if they're 127 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: doing something that's considered kinky or outside the box or whatever, 128 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: that's sexy. If for a heterosexual guy to be doing 129 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: something that's kinky or have a fetish or whatever it is, 130 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: that's considered something that needs to be repressed or suppressed, 131 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: and it's you know, often leads to a lot of issues. 132 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 5: Why is that, I think it's how we see men 133 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 5: when they desire sex. So we see when women desire sex, 134 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: and when we put our hands up and say, hey, 135 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 5: we want vibrators and we want all these things, that's okay, 136 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 5: it's female empowerment. But when we see a guy that 137 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 5: wants something particular or is desiring sex, we seem to 138 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 5: see it as being a sexual deviant or a sexual demon. 139 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 5: You know, we never quite use that word male and 140 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 5: holman in the bedroom, or it's seen as a positive. 141 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 5: We have this dynamic as the woman sometimes being the 142 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 5: gatekeeper and the innocent one, and the man who wants 143 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: sex are seen in that deviant way. So we still 144 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 5: have those views in society that when somebody does want 145 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: something that is in inverted commons outside of the box 146 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 5: of kinky, if it is a heterosexual man, especially, we 147 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 5: tend to flack on that label of it being something 148 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: deep here. 149 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: Yes, interesting, Sorry, Nikki, this is all amazing stuff you're saying, 150 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of couples, no doubt that are 151 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: listening to us who maybe they're sitting there going gee, 152 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: I'll probably haven't men vulnerable about what I want in 153 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: the bedroom. When is the right time or place to 154 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: bring that up? I mean, is it are you in 155 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: the bedroom and go hey, before you know, we get 156 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: we get things started here. I actually wouldn't mind a 157 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: bit of that. Or is it you know, saying you 158 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: bring up over tea in the afternoon before you actually. 159 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: Wait, Nikki, that's a great question. Before you answer it 160 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: let's go to a song and then we can speak 161 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: about it. Up next. Is that sound all right with you? 162 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: That sounds coo okay, great, good question, Woods, Thank you 163 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: first one in three months for twenty twenty one. Good stuff. 164 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: Gee, that's harsh. 165 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: We're talking more about guys being vulnerable in the bedroom 166 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: up next. Do you think it's hard for guys to 167 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: be vulnerable in the bedroom? Wild question to start the show, 168 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: But we are talking. We're talking about it because maps 169 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: last night it was all about all about rinsing the squirrel, 170 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: flossing the fairy, planting the pass andip whatever you want 171 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: to call it. It was sex week on Maths and one 172 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: of the guys, Russell, was pretty vulnerable being block. Woods 173 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 2: and you and I've been talking about this all morning. 174 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: It's body hard for guys to admit what they want. 175 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: And we've got doctor Nikki Goldstein who's sex ologist aging. 176 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: So doctor Nikki shop dot com dot are you going 177 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: to get some other doctor Nikki? Give it? Well, you 178 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: have a question for doctor Niki before the song, which 179 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear answer it. 180 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: That's it, yeah, doctor Nikki. I'm sure there are a 181 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: lot of couples listening to us right now that it 182 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: may be struggling to be open honest about what they 183 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: want in the bedroom. My question too is when is 184 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: the right time to have that chator and how do 185 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: you bring it up? 186 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 5: Or anytime is the right time? And this always baffles 187 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: me that people can have sex with somebody, but when 188 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 5: it comes to talking about sex them they freak out, 189 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 5: but you get nervous. It's a crazy concept when you 190 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: think about it, but I get that it can cause 191 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: a lot of nerves for a lot of people. But 192 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 5: if you are feeling nervous and you think, hey, there's 193 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 5: something I really want to talk to this person about, 194 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 5: it's really good to own it and just say, you 195 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 5: know what, I really want to talk about something through 196 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 5: our sex life. But I'm feeling a little bit anxious 197 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: for nervous or worry. You're going to think I'm weird 198 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: for it and my person might be feeling something similar 199 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 5: and at least she get it out in the open 200 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 5: and kind of give that space to say, hey, this 201 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 5: might be an awkward conversation and I'm going to flag it, 202 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 5: but let's go for it. 203 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, to flag it as well, I reckon, And. 204 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: Then well, you got a new partner would so. 205 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, Actually, really interestingly, I would say, and again I 206 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 4: don't want to go into too much because it's not 207 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: fair on Membo's listening. She's not involved or anything. 208 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: But we're exploring each other a little bit now and 209 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: finding out what we want, what we don't like. We're 210 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: starting to have those sorts of conversations. But it's interially 211 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: when you're throwing sometimes, and this might it be for everyone, 212 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: when you're throwing alcohol in the mix, all of a sudden, 213 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: there might be a little bit of common exuberance or 214 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: confidence in the bedroom. 215 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 5: In a Dutch courage, a little bit. 216 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: Of Dutch courage. 217 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: Let's go to Amy here. Amy, you've got a question 218 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: for doctor Nicki Goldstein. 219 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 5: I do so basically, what's the easiest way to go about, 220 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 5: you know, talking about your partner and men at the 221 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 5: same issue was super Bowl on the board of the bedroom. 222 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 8: We'll figure that all out now, But how is. 223 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: The easiest way to go about that? Sorry, just you're 224 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: saying you're a bit bored in the bedroom. 225 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: To answer that question, yeah, I think Nikki pretty much. 226 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: Question Amy, I'll rephrase what Nikki just said. It's pretty 227 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: much there's never a bad time to bring it up, 228 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: and Nikki also said sometimes it's worth just flagging it 229 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: as well. You say like, hey, it's going to be 230 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: of an awkward conversation, but here we go. I'm interested 231 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 3: in this in the bedroom, and yeah. 232 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: Let's go to Maida. You got a question for doctor 233 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: Nicki Goldstand about guys being vulnerable in the bedroom. 234 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 9: Yes, doructor Nicki. My question is does it mean that 235 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 9: they actually love us if they're being vulnerable during sex 236 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 9: or like, instead of it being very transactional and like, 237 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 9: you know, kind of feeling like a piece of meat 238 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 9: when we're sleeping together, if they're being very vulnerable, like, 239 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,239 Speaker 9: does that actually mean that they love us? 240 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: Not necessarily as horrible as that sounds, because you could 241 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 5: have great casual sex with somebody, feel really comfortable with them, 242 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 5: feel comfortable enough to be vulnerable, and that's where it stops. 243 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 5: So I think we get very confused when it comes 244 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 5: to love and lost and sex, and we need to 245 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 5: make sure that if we are looking to see if 246 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 5: somebody loves us, But that's a separate conversation. But if 247 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: somebody does feel vulnerable enough with you to open up, 248 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 5: then I think that's something that's really beautiful and you 249 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 5: should be grateful for that. But don't got over analyzed 250 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 5: and thinking does this mean it's true love? If you 251 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 5: can open up, can I can? 252 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: I wait in on there actually made it? Because this 253 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: is why we're talking about it is why what do 254 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: you know I'm talking Aboutcause this guy on Maps last night, Russell, 255 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: who was like branded as you know, just wanting things 256 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: to be too vanilla and stuff. I honestly, honestly like, 257 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: and I'm speaking on behalf of a lot a lot 258 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: of other guys who I'm mates with as well. I 259 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: reckon the transactional side of things is genuinely just like 260 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: the biggest smoke screen. 261 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: In the world. 262 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: I think more often most heterosexual guys are just trying 263 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: to do what they think is normal or what they've seen. 264 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: On pawn or like movies, movies, movies. 265 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 2: We just don't talk about it like in that way 266 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: with other guys, and we don't learn like it, Yeah, 267 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: we don't exactly. We just don't learn enough about it, 268 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: like it takes a woman to be able to go, 269 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: hey mate, that is not okay or like that what 270 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 2: you're doing there is, do you know? And and I 271 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: think we can be educated a lot better. That's why 272 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: I want to talk about it more, and that's why 273 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: I'm really that doctor Nikki has come and join us. 274 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, dodtor Niki Goldstein. That was awesome, 275 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: No worries at all, Doctor Nikkishop dot com dot au. 276 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: Going to get more of doctor Nikki Goldstand. Great insights there. 277 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: This dude's gonna join us a bit later on. 278 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 4: We should bring it up with deans to you. 279 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: I'll leave that to you, and we're back. We're back 280 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: behind our fences as intersexual guys. Let's go to the traffic. 281 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody podcast. 282 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: Right now, I've got a very special guest on the show. 283 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: Our next guest is. 284 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 10: Locked the world over by fans and with the announcement 285 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 10: of his new single, Falling Hoop has left physics teachers 286 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 10: everywhere with their heads in their hands looking for him. 287 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 10: And understanding of gravity isn't a requirement for becoming a 288 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 10: musical superstar. He's not after that Nobel prize. He's a 289 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 10: multi Platinum Area Award winner. 290 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Please welcome to the show. Failed physics student dealeris. 291 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 6: You Robert? 292 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 8: Hello? 293 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 7: Hello? Hello? 294 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: Hello, oh mate, I did fail physics. 295 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 7: I actually did physics. 296 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 4: Were you not good in school? I'm great, I'm great, guys? 297 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: Were you were you my physics teacher? 298 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 7: Actually he actually said you have a He said, what 299 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 7: do you say? You have a plastic head? Because nothing 300 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 7: was going in So I was like, oh, thanks, but 301 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 7: he was a great teacher. 302 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: But how are you guys going? 303 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: We're good man, We're pumped about falling up your new single? 304 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 3: Can you tell us what falling up really means? You know, 305 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: like what what is falling up? 306 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: Then? Yeah, yeah, no worries. 307 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 7: I mean it's really for me looking back when the 308 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 7: you know, after b orright and things went kind of crazy. Yeah, 309 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 7: I kind of got to the end of the the 310 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 7: Last tour and I just kind of looked back over 311 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 7: my last basically my whole life. And I'd thought that 312 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 7: I'd be happy when I you know, when i'd finish 313 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 7: school or when I got a job or I got 314 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 7: a promotion, that i'd be like, you know, I'd be happy. 315 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 7: And then then I got a record deal and I 316 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 7: was like, what if I have a big song? What 317 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 7: if a song does well in America? And I kind 318 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 7: of had all those things and I went I look 319 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 7: back and went along all these times in my life, 320 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 7: I've never really felt like any better. I actually felt 321 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 7: more anxious and less president and more worried. So it's 322 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 7: one of those moments of me kind of well, I've 323 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 7: got to figure this out for me and look internally 324 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 7: more than just like for these external things. That's what 325 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 7: the song's about. 326 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 11: Right, amazing message really saying you're falling up because you know, 327 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 11: you're like you know, from the outside, ostensibly you actually 328 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 11: are moving up, but it's almost like an. 329 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: Involuntary all that way. It's not you're not like excelling 330 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: for it or anything. You're kind of like tumbling into 331 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: it and really falling kind of kind of yeah. 332 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 8: Yeah. 333 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 7: It's also like the idea of you know, and things, 334 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 7: things are always looking good, and it's like you think 335 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 7: that when you get this thing, it's going to be good. 336 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 7: But at the same time, you know you're not feeling 337 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 7: that way, and so you're feeling kind of down as 338 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 7: things are going up. 339 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: I know it sounds, but it's something that it wasn't 340 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: even music. 341 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 7: It was kind of even when I was younger. It's 342 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: just something I've dealt with my whole life, and I 343 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 7: just I get I guess I got to break through 344 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 7: the illusion for me to go beyond where I thought 345 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 7: I would ever get to. I'm like, there's no chance 346 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 7: this is going to happen. So the fact that it 347 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 7: did kind of let me let me know that it's 348 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 7: got to be internal. 349 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: What is satisfying for you? 350 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: Dean? 351 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 5: Though? 352 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: I agree with there's all these things that we think 353 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: will make us happy when we get there, but so 354 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: many of those things when you actually get them, it's like, ah, 355 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: it wasn't as good as I thought it was going 356 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: to be. I mean for me personally, like fried chicken. 357 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: When you think about fried chicken and then you put 358 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: that thing in your mouth, it's like it was better 359 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: than you thought it would be. What's satisfaction for you, Dan. 360 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 7: Unless it's like dry? Right? 361 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: Oh, no, very true. That's a good call. I mean 362 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: you've always had some sauce though, I get anyway. Yeah, sorry. 363 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 7: For me? 364 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah? Like what for you in your life? 365 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: You know, for me it's fried chicken. Like for you 366 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: in your life, what have you found in your experience? 367 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: Obviously the success wasn't you know? That didn't make you happy? 368 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: What things in your life genuinely that you've got or 369 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: you've had made you go. Yeah, that made me feel 370 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: fulfilled and happy. 371 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess it was actually finishing the tour and 372 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 7: then I had a year off and it was just 373 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 7: like getting up in the morning and just going for 374 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 7: a walk to you know, and just having time to 375 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 7: to just you know, take it in, just like just 376 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 7: having time to just go for a walk and live 377 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 7: and see your friends and stuff like that. That's when 378 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 7: I started feeling happy and I'm like, well, it's really weird, 379 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 7: you think I sat. I thought I had to do 380 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 7: all this really cool, crazy stuff to get there, and 381 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 7: in the end, it really is just seeing your family 382 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 7: or seeing your friends and like doing small things I think. 383 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 7: And that was that was big for me. 384 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: Dean, I was looking before be all right, nearly a 385 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: billion streams on Spotify. 386 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 7: Holy shit, Yeah, I sound like such a wanker. Donut 387 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 7: and say we say ten times platinum. It's like this 388 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 7: guy must think he's awesome, right, given it's crazy though, 389 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 7: I'm not sure. 390 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: Are you at your house? Are you at your house 391 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: right now? 392 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 9: Yes? 393 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: Give it. I can say that you've got a platinum 394 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: record on the wall behind you with Dean Lewis above 395 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: it is that. 396 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: Sorry Dean crazy if I'm wrong, But is that in 397 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: your bedroom as well? 398 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: Just on the edge of the bed there, No. 399 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 7: That's no, that's a little studio back there. That's it's 400 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 7: like all the money's gone. I'm in a studio apartment, 401 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 7: like just struggling. 402 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 8: You know what. 403 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 7: All my plucks are actually in my mum and dad's house. 404 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 7: They actually are not even kidding. They have this two 405 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 7: bedroom house and the room my brother's room. They actually 406 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 7: put up my plucks in his rooms. Well all the 407 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 7: walls were colored. But it's just yeah, it wasn't It's 408 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 7: honestly brutal my parents, but they have all my plucks. 409 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 7: I just have one of them here because I don't 410 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 7: want to look like. 411 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: You know, you actually are genuinely a lovely dude, so 412 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody thinks you're awaken. 413 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 7: Man. 414 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: I wanted to I wanted to follow in a little bit. 415 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: You said last year you had a year off. You 416 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: finished the two A good time to have a year off, 417 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: by the way, like I mean, of all the years 418 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: let me know of this is a little bit personal. 419 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: But you followed love over to the USA, Is that right? 420 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: Found it? 421 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 8: Yeah? 422 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's one of those things. 423 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, slip through my fingers. It was. I mean, look, 424 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 7: I wrote a lot of the album about one Go 425 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 7: in particular, and you know, it didn't work out in 426 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 7: the end, which is actually great for the music. 427 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was. 428 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 7: But in a way it was just nice to have 429 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 7: time off and just to like just be be normal again. 430 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Adele Is spoken about the fact that she can't 431 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: write songs unless she's suffering some sort of heartache, and 432 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: I think, actually, funnily enough, in her divorce proceeding, they 433 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: had a deal where she wasn't allowed to write about 434 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: their relationship, the past relationship, because her husband was just like, 435 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: I know, you're going to write a billion songs about 436 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: anyone's covered. Did that? Does that happen at all with 437 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: the relationship you've just tumbled out of? Like, is there 438 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 2: any a moment where you're like, geez, no, no, no 439 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: stepping on your toes or anything like that. Do you 440 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: talk about it? 441 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 7: No, we're still close? 442 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 4: Actually yeah, great, that's good. 443 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 7: Actually, I think no, I think you know, she's a 444 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 7: stoke to have songs written aout it, and there are 445 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 7: a lot of. 446 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: They're actually good. 447 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 7: You know, talking about Adele, I would say, it's very 448 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 7: easy just to like, how do you enforce that, like like. 449 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: Through the courts, through the courts? 450 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: Actually there's like there's big but as Adele would be 451 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: able to go, that's not about you, like how vain 452 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: are you? 453 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 4: I'm talking about a relationship in kindergarten. 454 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I don't think she'd 455 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: run with that line. You guys have got a weird 456 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: energy going on. Dan, you gotta stop picking up on 457 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: what he's pitten down. I mean the fried chicken thing. 458 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: You could have let that one go over your head. 459 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: You didn't have to grab the kindergarten thing made that way. 460 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know you didn't. You didn't have to. 461 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 7: But the chicken one was. Yeah, that was and also 462 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 7: created like a bit of an awkward moment because you 463 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 7: wanted to get to the question I jumped on I 464 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 7: like I'm doing right now. 465 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, And. 466 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: I respect you for that, Dean. 467 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 3: I love it because it pisss off Will a lot, 468 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: and anyone who piss off Will makes me happy. I 469 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: actually want to quickly ask it, and I know we've 470 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: got to wrap things up, but I want to quickly 471 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: ask you about your creative process. I read a quote 472 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: from you, and I mean, maybe it frustrated me a 473 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: little bit to read this. You said the creation of 474 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 3: ideas was there from the start. I feel very lucky. 475 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: I pick up a guitar and the ideas just flow out. 476 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: It's like a tap. Can you just talk a bit 477 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: more about that? 478 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: Or actually before before you talk about it, is there 479 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: any chance you got a guitar around you at the moment? 480 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I could totally want to go on here one zec. 481 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: So we actually didn't. 482 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 7: This wasn't planned. But you're just like the way that 483 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 7: it works for me is I'll just like usually I'll find. 484 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: A give me a word, give me a chicken, chicken 485 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: fried chicken being too dry? 486 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 7: Okay, So it's like, why is the chicken so dry? 487 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 10: And look in you're right. 488 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: And it falls out your mouth. 489 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 7: And and and you say, I cooked it too. 490 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: Fat, too much. I need your not your touch. 491 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 6: It's GPS chicken tap man, What a guy. 492 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure to you. It's always nice to 493 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 2: talk to you get falling up wherever you get your music. 494 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: It's a ripper of a song from a ripper of 495 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: a man. It's always been a pleasure, hopefully say so. 496 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 7: Thanks. 497 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: God's pretty sure it thanks. 498 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: So much to It's the Rhythm Podcast. 499 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: You just got to convince this if you're in the 500 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: car with somebody else or are your final line Willard woes. 501 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: All right, let's crack and we've got Marina here on 502 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: thirty one oh six or five. 503 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 4: Marina, Hello, Hey, hey, you going very well? Thank you? 504 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: Who are you in the car with, Marina? 505 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 8: I'm in the car with my mom, but she doesn't 506 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 8: speak very good English. 507 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: Marina. 508 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: Is your Mamatalian? Have you called before? Is your mum Italian? No? 509 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 8: No, Croatian? 510 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: Your Croatian? 511 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 8: All right, okay, so maybe just speak speak a little 512 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 8: bit slower for it. You can pick up some words 513 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 8: at least. 514 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: Okay. Can you throw your mom on the phone. Sorry, 515 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: what's her name, Marina? 516 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 8: Emma? 517 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 4: Her name is Emma? 518 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: Okay, Emma, yeah, but let me just explain to her 519 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 5: what's happening first. 520 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, how do mama. 521 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 7: Is? 522 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 8: Yes? No whatever? Yeah, okay, okay, Hello hi Emma? Yeah, yeah, 523 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 8: hello Ami? 524 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: Are you are you in the cow with your Who 525 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: are you in the. 526 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 8: Car with PFI Marina? Marina? 527 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm pretty sure, Marina. 528 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: It's just it's your same voice, but you're just speaking 529 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: in Croatian. 530 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: But good try. Let's go to Phoebe's are you thanks, Phoebe? 531 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 4: Who are you in the car with? 532 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: Phoebe? 533 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 8: I'm in the car with my girlfriend, Britt. 534 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: Your girlfriend, Britt? Okay? Can you throw Britt on the phone? 535 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 8: Yep? 536 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 4: Hello, Jesus Christ, how do you know? Fhabe? Britt? 537 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 5: My girlfriend? 538 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 4: But how'd your mate? 539 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 8: Tinder? 540 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: Of course you met on Tinder? 541 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: Nice? Nice? 542 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 8: Oh yeah? 543 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: What's your favorite thing about Phoebe? Sorry? 544 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: You guys romantically connected or just friends? 545 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 8: Oh? 546 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 9: Ye? 547 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 2: Around therein bro I think they're romantically can I think 548 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: you can on Tinder you can say you're searching for 549 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: SI friends. I did that, sort of a loser, I did? Sorry? 550 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: Can you put Phoebe back on the phone please, Britt 551 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: now worry? 552 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 8: Hello? 553 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 3: Oh wow, seems to be a similar sort of twang there, Phoebe. 554 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 3: What was it that attracted you about Britt? 555 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: Definitely again the double eyes. 556 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: I think pers same person, Phoebe. We think you're the 557 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: same person. What you're both there? 558 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 8: Yeah? 559 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: We're both here? 560 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 6: Wow? 561 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: Oh well, and. 562 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 3: Good stuff you too, hopefully It continues to soar after 563 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: the meeting on Tinder. Just love each other's eyes will 564 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: Let's go to Joe now, Huda que Well good, thanks mate. 565 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: Who are you in the car with, Joe? 566 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 11: I've just got my work mate, Josh, Yosh, Josh, Yeah, Josh. 567 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 4: Can you put Josh on the phone? 568 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: Hey always gee whiz wow? So this is Josh. We've 569 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 2: got Josh and Joe. Yeah right, Josh. What's your what's 570 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: your favorite I'm gonna go with the pokemon theory. What's 571 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: your favorite Pokemon? Josh? 572 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 9: I don't really for a pokemon much? 573 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 574 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 4: Okay, what do you guys do? What do you do? Josh? 575 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: What what's work? 576 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 8: I will go along mining and gardening business? 577 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 4: Okay, so what do you What do you do Josh? 578 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 4: For that business? 579 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 8: I just did laboring, cutting grass and what intreasy? 580 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: What does Joe do? 581 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 7: Yo? 582 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 8: He's the boss? Is a bit lazy? 583 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 4: Sound pretty good? 584 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 5: Joe? 585 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: Can you put Josh back on the phone, Josh. Could 586 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: you put Joe back on the phone. 587 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 9: Yeah? 588 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 8: Hello, Joe. 589 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 2: Oh, so you what do you think do you think 590 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: that one person? You think they're one person? 591 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: Joe? 592 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 5: Yes? 593 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 4: Is Josh got employee? 594 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 9: He he's not too bad other than what he just 595 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 9: said to me that I'm a blood yard. 596 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. He did have a whack there. Did 597 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: have a whack there. I mean, would an employee have 598 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 3: a whack at his boss? 599 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: Or is that if they're mates? If their mates? 600 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 4: Definitely? What do you think. 601 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: I reckon Joe's ops one person. I know I'm a 602 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: little bit hasty with the one person swipes, but I 603 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: reckon Joe. 604 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 4: We think it's one person in there. 605 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 11: Yeah, you're right. Yeah. 606 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: Wow. Hey, good voice though, Joe, good voice, good backstory. 607 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: Better luck next year, Joe. 608 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 4: The big celebrity everyone who is returning to Instagram today 609 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: is you. Will McMahon. 610 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: Is wild and again, will you are you're going to 611 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: be posting within the nest? 612 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: Can we just just put the brakes on, just let's 613 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: just let's just put the brakes on. 614 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 4: Well this, I'm sorry, this is a very He's not 615 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 4: a big deal. It's got a big deal. 616 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: If I didn't have said this conversationally to one of 617 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: the producers who's absolutely turned coded me here, I would 618 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: have comfortably posted in quiet and we wouldn't have made 619 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: a big deal of it. And you know, I would 620 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: prefer that. 621 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: Well, here we are in the huha will and it's 622 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 4: going to be great for your big return because again 623 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: you famously got off. 624 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: Famously, I didn't famously get off. 625 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: We're in wa. It made the Wa Times. 626 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: We Wa Times. 627 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 4: Isn't even a paper, isn't it? I call the wrong paper? 628 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 7: Then? 629 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: No, no know, but three and a half years you didn't 630 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: get off. Now, before I do go on, you are 631 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: you are going to be revealing why I don't want 632 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: to do this. Well, now we're doing that, you're going 633 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: to be revealing what post you're making to make you big. 634 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: Follows me so it doesn't matter, and I don't know. 635 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: They'll start following you now, my friend. But I think 636 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: it's actually interesting before we get into that stuff. Why 637 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: did you get off social media? 638 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone cares about this? No, because this 639 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: is actually people don't even know who I am. 640 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 4: Take you out of it. 641 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 3: I mean, you are the most influential bald man in 642 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 3: Australian media and you know that. But put that to 643 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 3: one side. I think people might be interested to hear yeah, 644 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: you know, because a lot of people are on the 645 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: fence with social media, so it can be great to 646 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: keep it in touch with people. You can reach out, 647 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 3: you can see what your friends are up to. But 648 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: on the other side, there's a very toxic reality of 649 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: comparing yourself to people with social media. Yes, why did 650 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: you get off four years ago? 651 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: What did you get off social media? Why did you 652 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: get off social media? What was your main reason? 653 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: We've all heard about what's wrong with social media and 654 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: nauseum like it's it's really it was really bad for 655 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: my mental health. And as somebody who I really struggle 656 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: with liking myself, I really struggle struggle with loving myself, 657 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: and it's totally re navigated my values for like how 658 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: I rated myself was based on what other people thought 659 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: about me, based on what I thought about myself and stuff. 660 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm a good person because lots of people followed lots 661 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: of people like me, and then I got and then 662 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: obviously you and I started doing this job, and then 663 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: you know, we've got a We've got a social media boy, 664 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: now a little video boy. He's a man, he's a man, 665 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: he's coming coming into manhood, and so he looks after 666 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 2: the Will and Woody page, which is where people can 667 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: follow us. So I mean, and I'm not I don't 668 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: even have that. I don't know, I don't have the apps, 669 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: I don't have any of that stuff. I try and 670 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: stay away from it best I can, And to be 671 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: perfectly honest with you, I feel a lot better for it. 672 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 4: Interesting you're making your return then. 673 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: For a reason? 674 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 4: Was there a breaking point? 675 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 11: Though? 676 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 7: So? 677 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: Was there? Sorry? Just about on? 678 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: Like for you like everything you're saying, they're comparing yourself, sorry, 679 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: like not loving yourself, not liking yourself, you know, using 680 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: likes to decide if you're you know you are, if. 681 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: I'm worth it? Yeah, but what was the point where you. 682 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: Actually went like, no, I'm going to put it away 683 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: because I think everyone agrees with that. I think everyone 684 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: struggles with that, but a lot of people have still 685 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: got Instagram. 686 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: I think there was a point. Well, what I did, 687 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: and I reckon everyone should give this a go because 688 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: it was really fascinating for me. Was just I just 689 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: I think I heard a podcast about well and actually 690 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: I didn't even hear this on a podcast. I started 691 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: tallying up, and I'm a bit of a nerd. I 692 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: started tallying up how much time I was spending on 693 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 2: my phone per day. I went into that you know, 694 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: your time, yourself time and stuff. Yeah, fifteen minutes a 695 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: day on Instagram whatever, it's half now a day. And 696 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: what I like doing is just thinking about my life 697 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: as a whole. So I extrapolated that and it turned 698 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: out that I was spending like years on my phone. 699 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: Oh that's scary, and I was like. 700 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: Nah, I don't want to do that. So I got 701 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: rid of it. And then the really scary part was 702 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: when after I'd got rid of both Instagram and Facebook, 703 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: the app sometimes, well, what would happen is for the 704 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: first month at least I would unlock my phone and 705 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: find myself looking for something without realizing that I was 706 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: looking for Instagram and Facebook. And then I'd be halfway 707 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: through the look and I'd be like, oh my god, 708 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: what am I doing? 709 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: You do go into a bit of a for. 710 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: Me to get rid of the apps and cleanse myself completely. 711 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: Those are all great reasons and not be on social 712 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: media kids. 713 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 4: But it's coming back still, coming back to smite all 714 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: those great reasons. 715 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: Now we're going to go to a song everyone, but 716 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 3: right up next we are revealing what your return post 717 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: is going to be, and then everyone can go and 718 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: see it's going to be wild stuff. 719 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 4: Guys. I'm sure it's going to be a great, very 720 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 4: persona four years. 721 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: Coming back because it's very personal making a public. Sorry 722 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: if you've just tuned in right now. 723 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: No apology required, Will, because you are returning to Instagram. 724 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: That's right, everyone, the bald one is returning to Instagram. 725 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: The most famous bald head in all of Australia is 726 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: going to. 727 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: Just there's just so many people who I would be 728 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: the twenty first Mate. David Kosh has got me on toast. 729 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, gosh, she's got you your top five though. 730 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: Tom Gleeson he's still top five body sheer Gold. 731 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: Let's not name other radio hosts, Mate from Non Different Now, 732 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: well again you're naming other radio hosts. 733 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: They're all more ways yeah, Michael clim Actually the producers 734 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: are say. 735 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: Too much. 736 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm happy with twenty seconds, but let's not prove them 737 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: in the thirty. 738 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 8: But you are. 739 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 4: Look, you're returning to Instagram. 740 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 7: Will. 741 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: It's very excited. 742 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: Now. 743 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 4: I don't know what your return post is going to be, 744 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 4: but obviously, I mean, you've been thinking about this for 745 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: four years and whatever this post is must have. It's 746 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: dragged you out of there, which I just think is 747 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: so excited because I can't wait to hear the creativity 748 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 4: and whatever you've got there to post about all the news, 749 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: the news from your life. Man, I just don't know. 750 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 5: No, you don't. 751 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 4: You don't know it's going. 752 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: Because it was meant to be a private post. I 753 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: told one of the producers, I've been routed out and 754 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: here we are. 755 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: Here we are now if you want to go and 756 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: follow Will he is Will p Mac. He doesn't have 757 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 3: a blue tick everyone he's fighting for that. I don't 758 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: have a blue ticket. I don't know what we bloody 759 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 3: have to do to get a blue tick. I think 760 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: we have to get over ten followers at least. 761 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: I would say we're trying. 762 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm not drying. 763 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 8: I mean drying. 764 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: You've been for the last. 765 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: Emailing Instagram going what do I have to do? 766 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 3: Oh anyway, So look mate, you're about to review to 767 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: everyone what your return post is going to be. But 768 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: before that, Will I just thought it was worth maybe 769 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, this is a huge comeback at the end 770 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: of the day, so I just thought we'd build a 771 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: little bit of theater around it. There have been some 772 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: incredible comebacks in our time. There was Robert Downey Junior's 773 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: return to the screen after time in jail, the amazing 774 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: comeback of John Farner, followed by this comeback from John Farner, 775 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: and did this comeback from John Farner? And who could 776 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: forget the return of the Spice Girls. But none of 777 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: them compare to a return to social media from the 778 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: most influential bald man in Australian media. Ladies and gentlemen, 779 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 3: Today marks the day that Will McMahon returns to Instagram 780 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: with thistamp post. 781 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: Wow, amazing intro. Well done to our audio. Sorry sorry, sorry, 782 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: all right, So okay, so I'm just sharing it now, 783 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: sharing so you can follow me on will P mack 784 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: that's my handle. 785 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 4: He's looking at himself, promoting herself. He's an influencer all 786 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: of a sudden, isn't he. 787 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: So the only reason I posted this is because I 788 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: didn't want to post stuff about photos of me anymore. 789 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: I was looking for other people's validation. The reason I 790 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: posted this is because I started writing poetry. 791 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 4: Oh dear God, you did not run this past your 792 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 4: pr You just posted a poem. 793 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: I started writing poetry. 794 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: Hang on, there's no foot, there's just a photo of 795 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 4: a poem. 796 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I started writing poetry, and I realized it was 797 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: just sort of sitting there wasting on my notebook. So 798 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: I was like, well, where am I going to put 799 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: it out? I don't I don't care if people like it, 800 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: and it's just a chance for me to share it 801 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: with the world to see if they get something out 802 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: of it. 803 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 4: It's not the point of Instagram shooting. 804 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 2: That's what I didn't like about Instagram, so I tried 805 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: to change the way I approached it. So do you 806 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: want to hear the poem? 807 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, mate, Okay? Is it is a quick palm 808 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 4: or as long as it's. 809 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: Relatively It's called the Space between Us? Okay, And it's 810 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 2: for anyone who's ever felt distant from a loved one. Okay, 811 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: you've created these platform. 812 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be a cute photo 813 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: of you and your dog. Is a photo of you 814 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: on holiday saying take me back. That's sort of an Instagram. 815 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: Take me back. I'm going to start posting poultry on 816 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: my Instagram. Here he goes called the space between us. 817 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: There's a space between us, but I'm not sure how big. 818 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: I can't seem to find the edges. Sound travels through, 819 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: but it blocks you from view like a giant mazes 820 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: green hedges. It's managed to intrude into our house like 821 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: a stranger we invited in, But it hasn't just come 822 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: to check the pipes or even ask for a donation. 823 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: It's come to crucify our love. Our hearts are screaming 824 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: for salvation. There's a chasm between us, and it's both 825 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: elusive and scary, like bigfoot or wear wolves, but it's 826 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: only less hairy. Its invisible mass is smothering our fight 827 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 2: as the ocean fills a sinking ship, or a gravestone 828 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: silence as the light. There's a void between us that 829 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 2: holds us in its stare, but it's eerily calm, like 830 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: the eye of the storm or deep in a villain's lair. 831 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: It follows me, it follows you, but it's went together 832 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: that it's vastest, as if you were lowest land, my love. 833 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: But I can't spin it back around, not even at 834 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 2: my fastest. There's a gulf between us and this the 835 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: scary bit. I still love you, but with this bastard 836 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: in the way, you can't see me show it. You're 837 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: out of sight and I'm out of mind. We can't 838 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: find a connection where a hook without bait, a watch 839 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 2: without hands, a question mark without inflection. It's bubbling, decrepit, 840 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 2: toxic air constantly undermines us, but in a cruel twist 841 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 2: of duality, I feel like it defines us. Definitely. 842 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 4: Wasn't expecting that. Wow, very good. It's obviously about me. 843 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 4: Thank you. Let's go to the traffic. 844 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody podcast. 845 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: Would the Queen QI two finally delivered a statement on 846 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan's interview with Oprah. 847 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 4: Kept it brief. 848 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: The Queen kept it brief, sixty one words to be 849 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 2: exactly my friend's tiged. 850 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: It's almost a tweet, sixty one words. 851 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: It might have been a tweet. Actually, I don't know. 852 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. She's done bloody well though, and once 853 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: again proved that she is the ultimate fence sitter. I mean, 854 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know this, but the 855 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: Queen's offers she cannot make political statements about a lot 856 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: of things, so sometimes she'll wear a piece of clothing 857 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: to indicate what side. I mean, she's subtle, She's a 858 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: fence set She's the ultimate diplomat. She has been for 859 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: what jesus sixty years or something. So, I mean, have 860 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: a listened to her statement if you haven't heard it, 861 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean she just yea, she plays it brilliantly, she says, 862 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: and I quote. The whole family is saddened to learn 863 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: the full extent of how challenging the last few year 864 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: have been for Harry and Meghan. The issues raised, particularly 865 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, 866 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 2: they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by 867 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: the private family. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be 868 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 2: much loved members of the family. 869 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 4: That line in the middle there some recollections may vary. 870 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: They are taken, but they are taken very seriously. 871 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 4: As a fence sitter, that is that is I mean, 872 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 4: I that line. 873 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought this up, mate, because you are 874 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 2: a bloody good fence sitter. I mean, just yesterday on 875 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: the show, what was this about again? What was your 876 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 2: fen thinking about again? Joel? 877 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 4: It was about the Italian vaccine. 878 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 2: Oh, listen to this. 879 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 4: Italy was supposed to be sending two hundred and fifty 880 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 4: thousand units of the COVID vaccine astrazenica. Oh yeah, yeah, 881 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 4: they've held onto it. It's there it's their vaccine, so 882 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 4: they can do what they want. But you know, having 883 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 4: said that, you know gentlemen's agreement, you said you were 884 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 4: going to send them. I think the flip was quickly 885 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 4: at the end of the general's agreement. 886 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: You're a great what are you? A great fen sitter? 887 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: So fancy inside? 888 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 6: Makeup your Mind's time to decide. 889 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: Your super fancy mate, you are super fency and right 890 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: up next, I'm gonna put that to the tests, ultimate 891 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: test to see which side of the fence you can 892 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: sit on. I've got a bit of a warm up 893 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: for you. Yeah, I'll do it for you on the 894 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: other side. Okay, what do I think you are? The 895 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 2: ultimate fence sitter? 896 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: What fancy inside? 897 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 4: Make up your mind? 898 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: It's time to decide. 899 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: It's funny frustrating stuff, and being honest. 900 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 4: You're frustrating for you. Maybe do you think it makes 901 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 4: me a good person or a bad person? 902 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 2: I think it just makes you soft because you never 903 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 2: choose a side. It's Bundy annoying for me. And we're 904 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 2: putting that to the test rack now. I want to 905 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: see if you can sit on the fence as a 906 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 2: bit of a warm up and just to show you guys, 907 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: how soft and how much offense city you actually are? 908 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: Can you fences? To try and sit on the fence 909 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 2: about fences? 910 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: Sit on the fence about fences? 911 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: Okay, well, look, I don't believe in trying to divide 912 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 3: land up, you know, between two backyards. I wanted to 913 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 3: share a huge space together. But at the end of 914 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: the day, a fence is a great way to say, hey, 915 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 3: that's your land, that's my land. 916 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 4: Is going to make it very clear. 917 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: Isn't it. That was a joke. That was a joke. 918 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 2: How do you sit on the fence about fences? 919 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 4: Ridiculous? 920 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 2: Just did It's a super power. 921 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 4: Almost. I almost went into a trance there. I'm not 922 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 4: even sure if I was here. 923 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: Fences fences. I mean at the end of the day, 924 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 2: I mean I'm not I'm not going to say you 925 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 2: need to divide your land up. 926 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: That was I like the idea of sharing that honestly 927 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 3: do Like, you know, you can go my backyard, I 928 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 3: come in you're backyard. 929 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 4: At the end of the day. Sometimes you do things 930 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 4: in private, you know, so stop it. 931 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 2: You've done it, You've done You've already done it. All right, 932 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 2: these are going to get you really get carried away 933 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 2: with yourself. 934 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 4: We get fired off about the fence. I love a 935 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 4: fence between my legs. 936 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 2: Here we go, all right, these are going to get 937 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 2: increasingly difficult for you to sit on the fence off, 938 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: all right. First one, forks in Chinese restaurants. 939 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 3: Forks in Chinese restaurant. Look, if you don't know how 940 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 3: to use chopsticks, then it makes a whole lot of 941 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 3: sense that you use a fork. Then the day you're 942 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 3: just trying to get the food in your mouth. But 943 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 3: a little bit culturally insensitive to go. If you're gonna 944 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 3: go to a Chinese restaurant, learn how to use bloody chopsticks. 945 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 3: All right, it's offensive. 946 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: It's offensive. I also like how aggressive you get on 947 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 2: either side. When you say the first side, I'm like, wow, 948 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: I'm really brought into this. And then you flip and 949 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: you're equally as aggressive on the other side. Like the 950 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: weighted aggression is perfect. 951 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 4: I flip myself. No one can listen to me and 952 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 4: think that I was one way or the other. 953 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 3: All right. 954 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: Next one, refusing to get the fires of vaccine. 955 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: Well, I believe in freedom of speech, freedom of Well, 956 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 3: we can't force anyone to do anything, but come on, guys, like, 957 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: there is a COVID thing there and the only way 958 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: to beat is to take that jab so bloody take it, 959 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 3: done it again again? 960 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 2: Is Math's good tele vision? 961 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: Well yeah, if you lose the definition of good jelevision 962 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: if you look at the definition, if you look at 963 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: the definition of good television, it's getting people watching it, 964 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 3: so it's successful. 965 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 4: It is an outrageously successful show. On the other hand, 966 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 4: it is a disgusting TV show. It's a real shame 967 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 4: that it shows off the worst about humans and people 968 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 4: celebrate the worst of humans and brings more hate in 969 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 4: the world. It should be off TV. It's a shocking 970 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 4: TV show. 971 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: Jesus, pretty good, not bad, sat on the fence three times, 972 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: pretty well. 973 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 4: Not bad, give me a hard one. 974 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 2: Arranged marriage. 975 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 4: I actually had an amazing conversation with we know he's 976 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 4: going to. 977 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: Be saved by his backup. 978 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 3: It's the true story. I listen to a podcast with 979 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 3: a woman called Tara Barak. If you haven't heard of her, 980 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 3: go and look her up. She had an arranged marriage 981 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 3: and she was well on the fence about it a 982 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 3: little bit. Actually, she talked about how good is because 983 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of work goes into finding the 984 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 3: right partner for you. Actually, you work through marital problems 985 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 3: with your whole family. It's great communication there. But on 986 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 3: the other hand, I mean true love. You know, true 987 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 3: love is finding someone seeing at first, not having it arranged. 988 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: It's leaving it to fate. Isn't that exciting? Isn't that 989 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 3: the thing of love? You know, bumping into someone and 990 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 3: saying I might spend the rest of my. 991 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 4: Life with you. 992 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that ding there, that's a premature ding. 993 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 4: Which side of my mine? 994 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think you're bostly more pro arranged marriages makes sense. 995 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 3: Actually, my cab driver actually about it. He'd been married 996 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 3: for twenty years and he said I was done. It 997 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 3: was an arranged marriage. And I said to him, I 998 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 3: just heard a podcast on arranged marriage. He opened my 999 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 3: eyes to this new perspective, which is you're not forced 1000 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 3: to marry someone. It's a conversation with your family where 1001 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 3: they say, hey, we do you think this person's going 1002 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 3: to be great for you? Then you all agree as 1003 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 3: a family before you go here. 1004 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: Doesn't you're pro arranged marriages right now, You're not sitting 1005 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: on the fence. 1006 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 3: But I think fate needs to be a play with love, 1007 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 3: and I love meeting someone in a bar and the 1008 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 3: excitement my family doesn't know about it. And sometimes when 1009 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 3: the family doesn't know about a bit of forbidden love, 1010 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 3: isn't that exciting? 1011 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: You know? 1012 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 4: Arrange marriage does take away. 1013 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 3: That excitement of finding a stranger in the street and 1014 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 3: who knows what's going to happen. I mean, let's pop 1015 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 3: a bottle of champagne and see what happens. 1016 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 2: Wow, that was a lot to take on, but I 1017 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 2: do think you got to the fence. 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