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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This podcast is

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Speaker 1: for women who want to take ownership of their lives,

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Speaker 1: live unapologetically, and are ready to turn their biggest dreams

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Speaker 1: into their reality. If you're ready to be armed with

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Speaker 1: the tools that will inspire to take bold action, feel

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Speaker 1: confident within yourself, and conquer your goals, then you've come

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Speaker 1: to the right place. I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. I'm

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Speaker 1: a lawyer turned entrepreneur, co founder of Naked Harvest Supplements,

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Speaker 1: and social media personality with a community of over three

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand. I grew up believing I had to pursue

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Speaker 1: the safe option and fit into a mold others had

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Speaker 1: created for me. But then I entered my corporate law

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Speaker 1: job and I realized that settling for a reality that

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling you do too. Join me and

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Speaker 1: special guests weekly as we get down to the nitty

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Speaker 1: gritty on all things health, mastering your mindset, creating lasting habits,

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Speaker 1: thriving in your career and relationships, plus so much more,

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Speaker 1: and together we'll gain the knowledge and perspective to pursue

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Speaker 1: our wildest dreams and kick fear to the curb. Well

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Speaker 1: what are you waiting for? Let's Rise and Conquer. Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am so excited to bring you today's chat. It's a

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Speaker 1: big open conversation about breaking up with toxic diet culture

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Speaker 1: with than Madeleine Giajetta. I know I probably just butchered

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Speaker 1: her name and I'm so sorry Madeleine. If you are listening,

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Speaker 2: So if you.

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Speaker 1: Aren't familiar with Madeleine, she is a fitness influencer with

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Speaker 1: a following of over one million across her platforms. She's

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Speaker 1: work it with mg app. In our chat today, Madeleine

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Speaker 1: tells us how her fitness journey all began back in

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Speaker 1: Madeleine started to notice toxic messaging that was perpetuated throughout

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Speaker 1: diet culture and totally overhaul her message. This movie You've

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty thousand followers. What I amaya so

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Speaker 1: much about Madeline is her strength and how she dealt

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Speaker 1: and we share resources of how you can read between

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Speaker 1: the lines of beauty standards that run rampant on social media. Also,

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Speaker 1: at the start of the episode, Mattie tells us she

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Speaker 1: this is a goodie. Hey Madeline, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jordy, how's it going. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Very very excited to have you on. Finally, we've been

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, it's very exciting for me. Is

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Speaker 1: No, of course, So we've got heaps of juicy stuff

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Speaker 1: asked all my guests is what season they're currently in.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've recently been on the road traveling for the

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Speaker 3: past ten months and I'm back in Perth now, been

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Speaker 1: And so we were chatting off air, but you're currently

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Speaker 1: Amazing. That's I think that's such a cool season two

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Speaker 1: those who might not know you. I have obviously done

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no problems of course. So you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I have been following you for a very

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Speaker 3: I've started about four years ago. Actually, I was always

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Speaker 3: when I started doing I think, like everyone the BBG

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Speaker 3: It was my first time like hearing about like even

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Speaker 1: And so did you, like what was your basis of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I had been complaining for probably five years

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Speaker 1: And so you started building this following on Instagram and

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Speaker 3: And it was quite easy to grow your content. So

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I often get asked about like growing your audience,

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Speaker 3: Definitely. I'm naturally a really excitable, like enthusiastic person in

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Speaker 3: get so excited by this new idea. Whatever it could

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Speaker 1: So run us through. What did the overhaul? You did?

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Speaker 3: a friend, anybody not liking me absolutely kills me. You

437
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: have to like me. It's just necessary. And so you know,

438
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: when I found that people didn't like me, not only

439
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: didn't like me, but put time and effort into creating

440
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: posts about me. YouTube trol videos about me that have

441
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of view comments, people sending their fans

442
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: kind of to my page to sploit hate to me.

443
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: It was so overwhelmed, and my anxiety and stress was

444
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 3: just like sky high. Like I always say, like, you know, recommending,

445
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: you know, how does someone pivot a brand? What kind

446
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: of advice would you have? And it's so difficult to

447
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: do when you're in the public sphere because it can

448
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 3: just be so painful for your mental health, and to

449
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: go through that online. I think people forget, like, hey,

450
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: I'm a real person, Like I'm sure if we sat

451
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: down and we chatted, we both like each other and

452
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 3: we get on really well, and we'd be able to

453
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: have a conversation. But I think social media is a

454
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: lot about making yourself look good by making others look bad.

455
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: So calling people out makes you look like a hero

456
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 3: because you're that person who's you know, calling out the BF,

457
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: but you're kind of just being a bully.

458
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Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine how hard and difficult that is. I

459
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: actually remember a time chatting about it, and I just

460
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm the exact sam age. I'm such a people please us,

461
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: So I couldn't imagine caught that was for you and

462
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: do you think like kind of a part of it

463
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: was like not taking things as personal.

464
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 3: I'd like to say that I managed to do that,

465
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: but I struggling with that. What I found really helped

466
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 3: me cope with it was a mix of education, so

467
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: finding out, hey, why do people what you know, for instance,

468
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: cancer culture, like learning about that and listening to podcasts,

469
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: reading articles, understanding why people are the way that they are,

470
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: because otherwise you can just become like really hateful and

471
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: just think the worst of everybody. But there's reasons why

472
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 3: people do the things that they do and say what

473
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: they say, and it's not because they're all evil. There's

474
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: reasons behind it. And so for me, it was about

475
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: like being compassionate, understanding like why like people were treating

476
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: me like this and talking about me like this, And

477
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: then that helped me not take it personally because I

478
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: was able to see it's more about them than me,

479
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: and that helped a great deal.

480
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I love that. I've never thought about it

481
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: that sort of way. It does make sense.

482
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it was still difficult and I had to

483
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: and I still go into delopy for it, and because

484
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: it triggered a lot of anxiety within me. But it's

485
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: something that I'm still working on. But I do think

486
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: it's you know, the hardest things that you go through

487
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: in life are the things that we really do go

488
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: farm as lame as it sounds like, you learned so

489
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: much about yourself.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I'm a big believer in

491
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: you don't get anything that you can't handle.

492
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Speaker 3: I agree. And you know, when you go through these

493
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 3: things and you come out the other side, you're like, oh, Okay,

494
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 3: I did it.

495
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: You know, I like you did it.

496
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: I'm so I always found that yeah, yeah, like, okay,

497
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 3: that happened. Oh and with something else that happens, well

498
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 3: I did this. So this is a piece of cake.

499
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Speaker 3: You know.

500
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Speaker 1: I love that. And so before I want to chat

501
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 1: to you about the business side of things, but before

502
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: you do that, I would love if you can just

503
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: give some quick sort of steps for the audience if

504
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: they are currently realizing that they're super stuck and diet

505
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: culture and they want to break up with diet culture

506
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: and sort of you know, get out of that diet

507
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: cycle a bit more. Do you have any initial steps

508
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: that you recommend for someone like that.

509
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: I think there's a few things you can do. But

510
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think reading as many books as you

511
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: can about diet culture has helped me to most just

512
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: eat it, happy fat hunger. Reading about other people's experiences,

513
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: not just I think, like I love to just eat it,

514
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 3: but not just the kind of intuitive eating books. I

515
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: think really reading about that people's experience with diets. That

516
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: was a huge learning experience for me, and it made

517
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 3: me so much more compassionate and understanding than I used

518
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: to be. And I think most people they do have

519
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: this belief that you know, if you just eat less

520
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: and move more, you can move weight. And so I

521
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: really think not just reading books, but talking to other

522
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: people who are different from you. You learn so much

523
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: from their experiences and it just like it is really

524
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: like a heart opening experience. You have to open your

525
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: heart little by little to kind of take in so

526
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: much more. And it's so worth it because you will

527
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 3: be such a deeper, like more developed human like at

528
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: the end of it. But it is it is hard.

529
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: It is really hard because you know, you don't just

530
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: do it in your head and then that's it. You're

531
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: going to walk out on the streets. You know, you

532
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: deal with social media, you see people in real life,

533
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: their conversations you know, at work about diets, your friends

534
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: who talk about diets. Everyone talks about tired. So it's

535
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: very difficult to kind of like escape that. But I

536
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: do think with them, with the right resources and books

537
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: and community and a support of new family and partner

538
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: as well who understand like your boundaries and what you're

539
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: trying to do and how you're trying to do this,

540
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: you can get through. It just takes time.

541
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: I love that and I definitely agree. A big thing

542
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: for me was reading and also reading like research that

543
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: proved a lot of things like don't you feel like

544
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: there's so many beliefs we have around weight around health

545
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: that we think are like fact, and reading and studies

546
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: that completely disproved that was really eye opening to me

547
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: because it really I struggled where I was like, this

548
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: can't be true, how can they be you know, how

549
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: can we be taught this one thing universally and then

550
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: that supports something else, Like it was really eye opening

551
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: for me to look at that research and be like, oh, hey,

552
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: we're fed a lot of bs in the main social

553
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: media and media and just one hundred percent what you said,

554
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: like just being more eye opening. And I love what

555
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: you said about hearing other people's experiences that are different

556
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: to yours, and I like, I was exact same, Like

557
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: I am a young, blonde female who genetically is in

558
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: quite a small body, and so it was very eye

559
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: opening to me to read other experiences and also follow

560
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: people with.

561
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: Other guests and yes, exactly what I do.

562
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: On Instagram and just like open up your eyes that

563
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: it's actually you know, it's like not everyone is super

564
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: thin and super tall and blonde and skinny. It's just

565
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: so like just opening up what you consume. It was

566
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: a big thing for me.

567
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: It's a huge thing because I think we're kind of

568
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: you know, there are beauty standards and we say this

569
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: is attractive, this isn't attractive. And for a long time,

570
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: you know, I fake tan, And I said to my

571
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: boyfriend the other day, you know, am I more attractive

572
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: when I'm fake tan? Like, I'm not sure I am.

573
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: I I think I am that he's at the beauty

574
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: standard because I feel like I look better when I'm brown.

575
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: And the more I've been following like other women on

576
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: the media who are very pale, and I think they

577
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: look so beautiful, the more I conceive the beauty in

578
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: being pale, and I think it's just what you're being fed.

579
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: And so if you're surrounding yourself with women that all

580
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: look a certain way and that follow that beauty down,

581
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: and then that's what you're going to think is beautiful

582
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: and attractive. So it's so important to diversify your feed

583
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: and to get rid of, you know, stop following people

584
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: that make you feel bad about yourself as well.

585
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, And it was interesting. I was

586
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: actually having conversation with someone and they were explaining that,

587
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: isn't it funny? Kind of like in Western culture it's

588
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: all about being really tanned, like that is the beauty

589
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: stand It's very tent and then in a lot of

590
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: Asian cultures it's actually the opposite, where the beauty standard

591
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: is the more pale, the more for sure.

592
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 2: But that's kind of what I was told.

593
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, all their products contain widening agents. You know,

594
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: pinness is beauty, So it's not what is beautiful, it's

595
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: just what beautiful according to the culture. So you can

596
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: create your own standards of beauty and it doesn't have

597
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: any Anyone can be beautiful. It's just you know, pick

598
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: some people make them up into products that we can

599
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: buy and package, and it's how plants make money, you know.

600
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: And I think once you really understand that and get

601
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: your head around that, and you're like, oh, okay, I'm

602
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: being really sucked in here.

603
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you read the Beauty Myth?

604
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: Yes, that's my name is Wolf.

605
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.

606
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Wolf, Yeah that changed a lot to me, Like,

607
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: oh my.

608
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: God, I lie my whole life.

609
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm really angry then, yeah, no.

610
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: One hundred per I love that. And guys, make sure

611
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: you check out that book. I think in the show notes,

612
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: I'll actually chuck in a lot of books that we've

613
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: mentioned throughout this whole episode.

614
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: If that's all right.

615
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great idea.

616
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, all right, Well, thank you so much for that.

617
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: And I love that. And guys, make sure you go

618
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: and follow Mads if you aren't already, because she really

619
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: disrupts diet culture like your typical social media diet culture

620
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: and has some really cool posts. And I love like

621
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: that popping up on may feed like that was. I

622
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: think that's why I loved you transforming and doing it

623
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: so fast, because it was interrupting my feed and I

624
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I love this, so keep doing what

625
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: you're doing.

626
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's real. That's really nice to hear, because I

627
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: know a lot of other people have unfollowed me, which

628
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: is fine, but I know them unfollowing me because they

629
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: don't like their feed being interrupted. And it's too kind

630
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: of painful to hear an opinion of somebody that doesn't

631
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: align with your own. It is difficult, but it is

632
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: important to listen to opinions that aren't the same as

633
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: your own as well. And I think that's how you

634
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: learn and grow. You don't have to agree with everything

635
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: the person says, but to follow people that don't have

636
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: the same opinion of view, that's how you learn and grow.

637
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: I think the fitness industry is such a bubble and

638
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: they all say the same things and the same posts

639
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: and everything that we go urgitated, and everyone says yes, yes, yes, yes.

640
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent.

641
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: There's no one being like, oh, well, actually there's no

642
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 3: study that proves diets work for longer than five years,

643
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: good majority of participants, and everyone's like, hey, you in

644
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: the back, shut up.

645
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: You kill.

646
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: No. I love that, and I one hundred percent agree.

647
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: I think we should we should be following stuff that

648
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: makes us a little bit uncomfortable, makes us double if

649
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: you go through your feed and it's, you know, one

650
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: hundred percent like all the same messages, everyone's saying the

651
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: same thing. Like maybe text can be like all right,

652
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: where can I sort of broaden my horizons because I

653
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: think I'm in a bubble.

654
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Okay, perfect.

655
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Speaker 1: So moving on from that sort of side of things,

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Speaker 1: I want to chat to you about the business side

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Speaker 1: of things. Like you said, you are an entrepreneur at heart,

658
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Speaker 1: and you have lots going on. You have your work

659
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Speaker 1: with mg app, your clothing brand, your swimwear, and your

660
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Speaker 1: resistance bands. How do you balance it all with all your

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Speaker 1: business ventures.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not an organized person, Like I literally just

663
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Speaker 3: thought a diary like the other day in February. I

664
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Speaker 3: know because I know I keep my notes on my phone,

665
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Speaker 3: like I am terrible. I stay organized and I manage

666
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Speaker 3: everything because I have an amazing older sister who's my manager,

667
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Speaker 3: who organizes everything for me. So I would say delegation.

668
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Speaker 3: If you know that you're not good at something, it's

669
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Speaker 3: not your strength, it's you know, you've got your weak points,

670
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Speaker 3: You've got your strengths. Focused on what you're good at

671
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Speaker 3: and get someone who can feel in the weaknesses that

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Speaker 3: you don't have. I think that's how I do it.

673
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Speaker 3: And then making sure that my mental health is in check,

674
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Speaker 3: because if my mental health isn't in check, then and

675
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Speaker 3: being on top of everything will be very difficult and

676
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 3: stressful overwhelming, is I'm sure you know. So making sure

677
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Speaker 3: that you know, you do whatever you can to make

678
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Speaker 3: sure that you're feeling good inside. And that might be

679
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Speaker 3: therapy or medication, or it could be you know, stained

680
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Speaker 3: grounded with medication or oil, or even just spending time

681
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Speaker 3: with your family. Just kind of figuring out what makes

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Speaker 3: you feel good and relaxed inside so you can get

683
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Speaker 3: on top of everything else that can cause stress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And so do you have like

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Speaker 1: a morning routine or any like helpful habits that you

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Speaker 1: do daily so your mental health is in check and

687
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Speaker 1: you're kind of in a place where you can delegate

688
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Speaker 1: and you can deal with stressful situations.

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Speaker 3: I would love to give here my simple five day

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Speaker 3: morning routine, but I do not have. I feel like

691
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Speaker 3: I should, like you know, as a business woman, I

692
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: would have this a really great morning routine, but I

693
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: don't I do have a really good skin routine that

694
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Speaker 3: makes me feel really grounded and amazing in the morning.

695
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Speaker 2: I love that you're kind of winging it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. For me, it's about when, you know, when

697
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: I wake up in the morning, you know, I don't know,

698
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: like having my coffee, checking my emails, doing a bit

699
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: of meditation if I need it, But it's really just

700
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Speaker 3: checking in with myself each day and how I feel,

701
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Speaker 3: because every day I do feel different. And that's where

702
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Speaker 3: like therapy has really been a big help for me.

703
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Speaker 3: I know it's something that a lot of people and

704
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: myself include was really ashamed about that I needed therapy,

705
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Speaker 3: but that's been really helpful. And every time I go

706
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Speaker 3: see my therapist, you know, she gives me kids to

707
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Speaker 3: help me deal with my anxiety and kind of flow

708
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Speaker 3: down a little bit as well when I'm at work

709
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Speaker 3: and you know, thinking of kind of what to do

710
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Speaker 3: next and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: I love that and thank you for touching on that.

712
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Speaker 1: That's something I chat about a lot in my podcast

713
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Speaker 1: because I started seeing a psychologist probably mid of last

714
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Speaker 1: because I was just having such bad at anxiety and

715
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Speaker 1: I do try and kind of talk about it and

716
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Speaker 1: let people know, because I myself had so much huma

717
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Speaker 1: around it. I grew up in a family where you

718
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: didn't do that sort of thing and it was not

719
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: frowned upon, but it just like no one did it,

720
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Speaker 1: and so I did have a bit of shame. But

721
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Speaker 1: then now I've been going, yeah since mid last year,

722
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Speaker 1: and it has literally been life changing just in regards

723
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Speaker 1: to me handling my stress and anxiety and one hundred percent,

724
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Speaker 1: Like every day is so different, Like I have this

725
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Speaker 1: somewhat of a routine, but I love what you said

726
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Speaker 1: about kind of each day comes and you kind of

727
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Speaker 1: taking it like that, yes.

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Speaker 3: Seeking at what you need for that morning. I especially

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Speaker 3: do that with exercise, you know, like wouldn't make me

730
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Speaker 3: feel better to go for a walk today? World to

731
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Speaker 3: make me feel better to you know, go for one

732
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Speaker 3: or lift weight, like figuring out like how you feel

733
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Speaker 3: in that day and kind of adjusting your life around

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Speaker 3: that feeling.

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Speaker 1: back into the episode, and so let's chat about the

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Speaker 1: business side of things. We've kind of been chatting about that,

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Speaker 1: but has there been any big challenges come up, whether

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Speaker 1: it's with your app or or something like that, and

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Speaker 1: how have you sort of overcome and got through a

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Speaker 1: hard time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, I mean developing the app was

771
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Speaker 3: way more complicated than I have imagined. I knew it

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Speaker 3: would be difficult, but I definitely didn't how impot to

773
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Speaker 3: be as expensive and time consuming as it was. I

774
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Speaker 3: think if you get maybe like a cookie cutter app,

775
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Speaker 3: or you get like another company to do it for you.

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Speaker 3: I know there's lots of companies that you know, sell

777
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: them to as they are or that manage everything for you,

778
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Speaker 3: then that would have been easier. But I always wanted

779
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Speaker 3: something on my own terms and to build something that

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Speaker 3: I could, you know, have as part of my legacy

781
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: and as part of who I am, and make sure

782
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Speaker 3: that I could have this and if I wanted to

783
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: change my messaging or do anything. I could add it

784
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Speaker 3: to that and not be stuck in this kind of

785
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Speaker 3: cookie cutter like a layout. So that was definitely more

786
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Speaker 3: surprising knowing how much it was going to cost as

787
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Speaker 3: time went by. Because the Apple only takes doesn't cost

788
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Speaker 3: that huge amount to build, but the maintenance and updates,

789
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Speaker 3: and especially if you're changing your whole blanding message after

790
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Speaker 3: you've paid for everything, that costs quite a lot.

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Speaker 1: And so do you have someone working full time for

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Speaker 1: you with the app?

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Speaker 3: So I have a company in Melbourne that manages everything

794
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Speaker 3: for me. They don't work for me full time. They

795
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Speaker 3: just do work when it needs to get done and

796
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Speaker 3: they kind of post everything on their server. But my

797
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Speaker 3: older sister is the one that helps me with everything

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Speaker 3: in terms of she like, she's one laises with the

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Speaker 3: app developers and makes changes. You know, you never think

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Speaker 3: that something as simple as it could just be adding

801
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: a recipe would be so complicated. There's or you know,

802
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Speaker 3: the test that they have to send through the Apple

803
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: and then it comes back, or just these little things

804
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: that can cost thousands of dollars that you just don't

805
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Speaker 3: account for. So I think that's something to be aware

806
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Speaker 3: of if you're looking at, you know, building, building an

807
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Speaker 3: app and having one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I wanted to ask you. You said

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Speaker 1: you I remember reading a post and you kind of said,

810
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Speaker 1: you have been an entrepreneur for most of your life,

811
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Speaker 1: and what do you think makes you an entrepreneur?

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Speaker 3: I think, I think because I've never imagined working for

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Speaker 3: anyone else. Never, even when I was you know, I

814
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: used to just work part time at a cafe and

815
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Speaker 3: I was fashion signs about ten years go, and everyone

816
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: was asking, you know, what are you going to do

817
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 3: when you finish? Who are you going to work for?

818
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Speaker 3: And I was like, I'll do something on my own,

819
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Speaker 3: And then what are you going to do? I'm like, oh,

820
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I just something on my own. Like

821
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Speaker 3: I just, I never thought about working for somebody else.

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Speaker 3: You know. I've had my own social media business. I've

823
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Speaker 3: had a vintage online store, I've had a fashion label.

824
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Speaker 3: I've done so much before I even started fitness that

825
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Speaker 3: I don't know, It's never been something I've considered he's

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Speaker 3: getting a job for somebody else. I just I've always

827
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Speaker 3: been like, oh, I can do it myself, or that's

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Speaker 3: what excites me, that gets me up in the morning,

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Speaker 3: and that I often think like I love talking to

830
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Speaker 3: people that are working like a nine to five job

831
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Speaker 3: that they want to get out of and they have

832
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Speaker 3: a passion for something else. Like I love talking to

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Speaker 3: them and being like, Okay, this is how we could

834
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Speaker 3: do it. And my boys when always says mean, Patty,

835
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Speaker 3: you not everyone wants to make money from their hobbies,

836
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, why not? We could do them pacaste

837
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Speaker 3: and I can do popating this And I get so

838
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Speaker 3: excited and he's like, calm.

839
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Speaker 2: Down, so funny. I love that your brains kicking.

840
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Speaker 3: Is. I'm just starting with the skin care, Paige, because

841
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: I'm so obversus skin care and I'm like taking all

842
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: these pitches for and getting so excited and buying all

843
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: these like stupid vin page plates and he's like, oh

844
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Speaker 3: my god, you're at it again. I'm like skin with MG,

845
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Speaker 3: it's a it's a new business.

846
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Speaker 2: I love that.

847
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Speaker 1: And is your partner super supportive of all your ventures?

848
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Speaker 3: He is. He's very like he's way more risk averse,

849
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Speaker 3: very safe, very stable. He's like what I need, like

850
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Speaker 3: the stability in my life because I'm just such an

851
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: up and down person. I'm very even talking to you

852
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Speaker 3: now I'm like, I'm not God, I'm so excited, like

853
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: and I really need that stability from him, and or

854
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Speaker 3: He's always been the constant in my ear that tells me, Okay,

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Speaker 3: is this a good idea, Let's talk this through, let's

856
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: consider it. Whereas I'm just like, no, it sounds fout

857
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Speaker 3: might still it.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: He's like your gang.

860
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Speaker 3: He is he is, and I think it's important to

861
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: have a mix of that. I don't think. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I would never be where I am today if I

863
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: wasn't that kind of person that as soon as I

864
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Speaker 3: get an idea, I do it straight away. Like what

865
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Speaker 3: you said before, messy action. I like that. Give it

866
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 3: is a nice name that makes me sound organized. It's

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Speaker 3: messy action, guys, I look it up. I love it

868
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Speaker 3: because yeah, you have. It's just to have me how

869
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Speaker 3: I like to do things. And I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of people often ask me, and they probably ask you

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Speaker 3: as well, you know, how did you start? How did

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Speaker 3: you do this? Because you get so overwhelmed by just

873
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Speaker 3: the idea of starting that people just don't do anything.

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Speaker 3: But that's what you just have to do, right, You

875
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: just have to start, and you just have to just

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Speaker 3: get going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that it's because I don't see. I

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00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: love that word because that's something that I've used previously,

879
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Speaker 1: is like you just need to take messy action and

880
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Speaker 1: just kind of figure it out as you go. Like

881
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: when I look for my journey from quitting my life

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Speaker 1: law job to where I am now, like I no

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Speaker 1: way could have even envisioned it, Like it almost just

884
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Speaker 1: like I put one foot in front of the other,

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Speaker 1: and it was just like messy action, let's just do it,

886
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: let's get it done, and it all kind of led

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Speaker 1: this where I am now, where I'm like really not

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Speaker 1: comfortable but really like happy where I am. I really

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Speaker 1: can see, but I just had to start because back

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Speaker 1: then I just you never you just don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: not clear.

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Speaker 3: Because I think a lot of people there like to

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Speaker 3: start with perfection, you know, because they have reasons behind it.

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Speaker 3: But I think a lot of that is based on fear.

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Speaker 3: You know, as long as they know if it's perfect,

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Speaker 3: it might be a delay or they can get it started,

897
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Speaker 3: or they'll have you know, reasons. I think I get

898
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Speaker 3: it perfect that way, it won't fail. But otherwise you

899
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: need to you need to just put it out there

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Speaker 3: and then you can change if you go, And that's

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00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: always my approach to your business.

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Speaker 1: I love There's a quote and it's something like, if

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00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: you put some think out like the first time, and

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Speaker 1: you don't want to change it, it means you left

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00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: it too late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that. I'm going to say that to

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Speaker 3: see it next time.

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Speaker 1: I love my love.

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Speaker 2: We're just like throwing out quotes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, my wall.

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Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent. I love what you said stepping

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Speaker 1: into the fear taking messy action. I very much resonate

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Speaker 1: with that. So thank you for sharing. And so before

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Speaker 1: you go, one last question that I like to ask

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Speaker 1: all my listeners is when you are not feeling yourself,

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Speaker 1: you're feeling a bit bla, you're not into whatever you

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00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: need to do, how do you sort of like motivate

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00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: and inspire yourself to get into it? Because that word

919
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: can be exercised, it can be anything. How do you

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00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: find motivation?

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Speaker 3: I find focusing on the way I know that it

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00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: makes me feel. So I might not be looking forward

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Speaker 3: to whatever that might be. It could be paying a bill,

924
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: it could be working out. But if I think about, okay, well,

925
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Speaker 3: I'm going to feel really organized on top of things,

926
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Speaker 3: or I'm going to feel really strong and powerful after

927
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Speaker 3: always remembering that I feel better when kind of the

928
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: job is done, like motivating myself with them with the afterthought.

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Speaker 3: But you know, because it's not all things that are

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Speaker 3: fun in terms of motivation to get things done, because

931
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Speaker 3: otherwise and I am that person like that that I

932
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Speaker 3: do like to do the fun things. First, I think

933
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: your motivation is really difficult because you're not going to

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Speaker 3: be motivated every day. Some days you're going to be

935
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Speaker 3: and some days you're not. And that's when people talk

936
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Speaker 3: about discipline, and that's like discipline is important. But I

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00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: do think that finding some sense of enjoyment from what

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Speaker 3: you're doing will help you and you won't need as

939
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: much motivation. You know, when I was away for ten months,

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00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: I didn't have to be motivated to go to the

941
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Speaker 3: gym every country I went to, which was difficult to

942
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Speaker 3: find and to get to I have to ride my bike,

943
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: and you know, it wasn't a simple process, but I

944
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: made I made the effort because I wanted to, because

945
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Speaker 3: I liked it. Like you made the effort to go

946
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: and buy iceola because you like it. Yeah, it was

947
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: the same thing for me. With the gym. I was like,

948
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: I want to do this. So I think that just

949
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: makes starts a difference. You don't even need the motivation

950
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: if you're if you want to do something and so

951
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 3: you just have to find a way to make that

952
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: process enjoyable. So it might be a different type of exercise.

953
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: It might be you know, maybe paying your bills at

954
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Speaker 3: your mum's house so you can have a TV with

955
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: so while you do it. Like finding a way to

956
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: make the process something that you can look forward to

957
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 3: because then you won't delay it.

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00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I love that amazing.

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00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: Make everything fun?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Auto of the podcast, Well, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for taking the time. I mean, you're a busy woman

962
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Speaker 1: packing and what not, but can you let the audience

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00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: know where they can find you and all that good stuff?

964
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure. So I'm on Instagram at Madlin Georgetta and

965
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Speaker 3: on Instagram with working with MG, and I'm going to

966
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Speaker 3: also tell you that I'm on Instagram at give Me

967
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Speaker 3: MG because you know, working on that too, and I'm

968
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Speaker 3: on YouTube at Madlin Georgetta as well, and I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be posting lots of workout videos like follow on

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Speaker 3: workout videos and YouTube at the moment, so come do

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Speaker 3: a work out with me.

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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Maddie.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. This was so

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Speaker 3: much fun.

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Speaker 1: And that's a wrap on another episode of the Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast. I hope you got something valuable from it,

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Speaker 1: tuning in. I really really do appreciate it. If you're

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Speaker 2: Jay Jay