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Speaker 1: The Jonesy demanded show as we know it started in

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Speaker 1: the aftermath of the two thousand and four tsunami in Pouquet.

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Speaker 2: An undersea earthquake sent enormous way. Since then, we've been here,

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Speaker 2: as you're constant, while the world changed social media time, it.

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Speaker 3: Changed three for brock Oil wedding, the iph matter for

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Speaker 3: act like a Sentinel.

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Speaker 1: We have watched over the world since two thousand and five,

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Speaker 1: and thanks.

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Speaker 2: To a detailed set of diaries that Jonesy has kept.

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Speaker 1: Well they're kind of detailed, but we do have a

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Speaker 1: time travelers podcast of a highly successful radio show. Highly

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Speaker 1: successful a podcast of a moderately successful radio show.

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Speaker 2: All right, well let's begin, shall we.

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Speaker 3: Going to the ship's log of two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people come up to me

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Speaker 1: and say, gee, how do you do such a successful

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Speaker 3: People run up to me in the streets.

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Speaker 2: I think you are.

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Speaker 3: People come up and they say, hey.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with those people? And who do they think

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Speaker 2: you are?

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Speaker 3: How do you do it? How do you do it?

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Speaker 3: Working with the handbreak every day?

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Speaker 2: Who says that?

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Speaker 3: People say?

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Speaker 2: Do they? I'm want to chuck and Margaret Patratche who

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Speaker 2: were those people. I'd like their.

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Speaker 1: Names, Barry mcgards, mcgargin, Fargler, I'd like his phone number,

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Speaker 3: But a lot of people did they do?

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Speaker 1: They say, you know, you've been doing this for a

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Speaker 1: long time, and as we have, and as has been

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Speaker 1: demonstrated in this podcast series in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 1: when you and I got together as a radio show,

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Speaker 1: I always knew that it would be successful. I always

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Speaker 1: knew in my harder hearts if I did a radio show.

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Speaker 3: With you, it would work and it would be great.

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Speaker 1: The problem was, in the early part of two thousand

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Speaker 1: and five it wasn't great. The show was great, but

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Speaker 1: the ratings didn't reflect the greatness.

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Speaker 2: Who were we up against? Who were we on against

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Speaker 2: when we started here? Let me see, we had Colin

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Speaker 2: Jackie Howard started today.

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Speaker 1: If they started a two day American rosso were the

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Speaker 1: They were the Kings, the big town over a two

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Speaker 3: You know it was just Mike Carlton by himself.

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Speaker 2: Uh two GB wasn't the big thing.

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Speaker 3: GB was massive, Alan.

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Speaker 1: Alan was big and who was it mix?

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Speaker 3: Sammy and Jason?

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Speaker 2: Sammy and Jason, they were for yeah, they we beating us.

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Speaker 1: Triple M had the cage right, and I can't think

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Speaker 3: Two k Y had Ron Casey. Reason.

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Speaker 1: I just made that up, but it probably did. As

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Speaker 1: far as I know, two KY has always had run Casey.

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Speaker 2: But this is what's great about You've kept all these

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Speaker 2: work diaries that have the newspaper clippings of the day,

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Speaker 2: and it's fascinating going back and looking at this historical tone.

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Speaker 1: What I noticed back in the day as well is

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Speaker 2: They used to have designated radio writers. As if someone

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Speaker 1: Well, we used to get a look at this. We'd

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Speaker 3: Just do you know what's happening?

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Speaker 1: You know Amanda Keller spotted looking confused buying fish fingers

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Speaker 2: Well that was big news, but not all of them were.

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Speaker 2: But do you remember years after that, we broke the

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then the following week it was broken by

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Speaker 3: Them, and that was like community radio in Glasgow.

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Speaker 2: How they got hospital radio?

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Speaker 3: How have they got the infrastructure to do that?

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Speaker 2: Because they think it seems more interesting a small radio

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and five. So about May of two

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Speaker 1: Was a newspaper double newspaper spread I've got it here

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Speaker 1: And people would come up to me and say, gee,

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Speaker 3: In fact, we were coming last weld. We yeah, we

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Speaker 1: We're sitting on a six out of so American rosso

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Speaker 3: us and Alan Joseph I mentioned, Jaye dropped. We just

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Speaker 2: Everyone else did well except for us, But the photo

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you say the figures in the most recent

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Speaker 1: I could be totally delusional, but I've never had a

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Speaker 3: Right thing, and I've never felt otherwise about that. I've

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Speaker 2: So that was halfway through the year.

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Speaker 2: Yay, ever, think a glass of champagne and people that

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Speaker 1: And that was in May of two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: And then there's another article here once says, oh, we've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your article on Sydney radio was interested me, particularly

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Speaker 1: It had moved from seven Hills to North Ride is

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Speaker 2: But you say that it was never to WS Western Sydney.

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Speaker 2: It was doubled you in you for UVULA, Yes, what

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Speaker 3: For the call sign? It was to u US.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what do you see? Say A for Apple?

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Speaker 1: Does have a small point In nineteen seventy eight or

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Speaker 3: Sydney was a different place.

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Speaker 1: Back then, you didn't have the infrastructure that connected it

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Speaker 3: Send up a local radio station.

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Speaker 1: We have lots lost pets and we can do the

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Speaker 1: So you know, but when I grew up in Cronulla,

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Speaker 2: Or you'd have done that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have worked and I wouldn't have to

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Speaker 3: But you know, I guess in a way it was

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Speaker 2: The range of very livable urban lives, it's no longer

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Speaker 1: But I've never felt that. I've never felt that Sydney's

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Speaker 3: But for nine years I was living in different parts.

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Speaker 2: Well, when I went to Carlo High and grew up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But my Marching Orders, when I came to.

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Speaker 2: Join Marching Orders, means you've been marched down now.

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Speaker 1: Marching orders actually means in marching orders, when this is

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Speaker 2: Other i'll give you your marching orders means you're leaving

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Speaker 2: my instruction. We sacked long ago when you instructions.

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Speaker 1: When I came here was that they wanted to make

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Speaker 1: WS a like an A list station. They didn't want

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Speaker 1: They didn't want that. They wanted to be a contender

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Speaker 3: That was the last time Ray Hadley got beaten, by

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Speaker 3: Sparks, you know the sparks. He came over here to WS.

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Speaker 1: He was the first? Not know who was the first

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Speaker 1: I was like Charlton Heston, so he was the first guy.

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Speaker 1: Then I was the child and Heston character that came around.

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Speaker 1: And today I remember, well, these apes to it?

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Speaker 3: And who did you?

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Speaker 2: Didn't that last one kissed an ape?

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Speaker 3: Your marching orders had to shut up? No, I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: Was the one? But your diary is full of stuff?

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Speaker 2: What's that old envelope? Do you know? In my actual

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Speaker 2: And my friend's mum had been to New York and

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Speaker 2: Manilow might have looked at that tree. What's in this envelope?

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Speaker 3: This is a letter from I don't know what it's from.

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Speaker 3: It's from Gordon Wheat.

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Speaker 2: Oh have you still got that?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you don't you remember when we

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Speaker 2: I do you've spoken it? You spoke about it when

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Speaker 3: You read out Gordon Wheat's letter.

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Speaker 2: Then this is from Gordon Wheat, West Pennant Hills WSFM.

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Speaker 2: Dear sir Madam, I'm forty five years old and I

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Speaker 2: And we were thinking as if, how, how, where, why

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Speaker 2: How many years ago is this?

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Speaker 2: So if he was forty five, then sixteen years ago

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Speaker 3: Two sixty three or sixty four.

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Speaker 2: And I look, if I was going to go to

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Speaker 1: I was we were talking to Missy Higgins about that

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope.

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Speaker 3: Well they would be great because it's all women lineup.

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Speaker 2: Women still go to the toilet. Ye, women take longer

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I guess Porter Loos is the great equalizer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but portal is as well. Dreadful. Of course, they're dreadful.

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Speaker 2: Because of men. So what you're saying, Look.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in this day and age. I point the

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Speaker 2: Point Percy at the finger.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, let's get around, let's get back to ratings.

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Speaker 2: Year turned around.

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Speaker 3: The year did turn around, and on November two thousand

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Speaker 2: On November two thousand and.

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Speaker 1: One, remember one two thousand and five, Breakfast Novices feast

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Speaker 2: See so middle of the year, tank Rama coming last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the radio industry was taken by surprise. It's an

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Speaker 1: On Monday, when Breakfast Underdogs Come on, Amanda Keller and

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Speaker 1: Brendan Jones took the number one spot on the FM

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Speaker 1: FM leaders American Rosso on Nova and Today FM's fiercely

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Speaker 3: What's this? How they went on to win one listener.

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Speaker 3: Driving through the pouring.

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Speaker 1: Rain with their producer Peter Clay on Tuesday, Keller spotted

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Speaker 1: The woman returned the umbrella on Friday, vowing to listen

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Speaker 2: You want to do a whelly and just splash up.

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Speaker 3: I remember that you gave her and it was a

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Speaker 2: That's why she had to give it back. Look at

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Speaker 3: We look like muppet babies.

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Speaker 2: We do look like muppet babies.

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Speaker 1: Lose your face here, it's what what's your hand doing

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Speaker 2: Come on, it's what it's fatterer face? What are you

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Speaker 3: What do you call that when you face it?

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Speaker 2: What do you call it? You have the words, you

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Speaker 3: Your face is? It's what? It's a bit more.

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Speaker 3: Not at all, not at all.

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Speaker 1: This has been a great podcast, has it. Let's close

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Speaker 1: the book on two thousand and five, shall we?

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Speaker 2: Well we ended at number one, so yeah, no, I

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Speaker 1: No one told us we had to do it again.

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Speaker 1: We would go number one. We would go number one

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Speaker 1: many many times in the future. But next time on

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and six was very.

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Speaker 2: Still fat in the face brings It's.

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Speaker 3: A very interesting time for us. Until next time, see

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Speaker 3: them goodbye for more Jonesy and Amanda podcast.

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