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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. Hello,

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Speaker 1: it's Lola Berry here. I am so excited for you

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Speaker 1: to meet this next guest. Her name is Steph Prem.

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Speaker 1: She is an icon in the health and wellness space.

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Speaker 1: She's got an amazing pilates and wellness hub called Studio

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Speaker 1: pp here in Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: But before all of that, she.

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Speaker 1: Was an Olympic snow border and she was really on

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Speaker 1: her way to the top when she broke her back.

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Speaker 1: And she has been such an awesome guest because she

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Speaker 1: shared really openly the failure of that and the both

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Speaker 1: physical and the mental struggles of coming through that. And

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Speaker 1: the thing that I think I love most about Steph

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Speaker 1: is that she's so comfortable sitting in the failure. Steph

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Speaker 1: Prem blew me away, and I hope she does the

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Speaker 1: same for you to enjoy. Okay, Hello, I am effing

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Speaker 1: we actually we can say the effort on here, but

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Speaker 1: I am so scared to have you sitting in my

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Speaker 1: chair for people listening. So for people listening, this is

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Speaker 1: Steph Prem. So Steph Prem is a mate of mine

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, sick, she's going to be

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Speaker 1: a first person that's going to be epic on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome by the way, sorry I have you're sitting there

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Speaker 1: and I speaking about you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: My god, what an intro. Well, this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: Until I booked you for this, right, I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be really chill, this is going

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Speaker 1: to be really easy because we're mates already. I thought

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Speaker 1: that's what we were doing. Well, then I stalked you.

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Speaker 1: This is what I love. It gives you permission to

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Speaker 1: stalk anyone wants a podcast that's true, And I was like,

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Speaker 1: holy fuck, this girl has done so much not to

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Speaker 1: mention the trials and tribulations that you've had, like as well,

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Speaker 1: and just to preface, this podcast is a podcast that

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Speaker 1: explores failure. I think that Instagram, I think that social

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Speaker 1: media is a highlight reel and that's all good and

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Speaker 1: wonderful and very positive. But I think it's actually the

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Speaker 1: failures are the things that make us. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to give a quick little taste of what I've learned

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Speaker 1: about you in my stalking and.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm nervous.

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Speaker 1: That's making me a lot better. So first of all,

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Speaker 1: you're you were, sorry, a winter Olympian, Is that correct? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Five time Australian champ.

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Speaker 2: Once upon a time. Yes, I feel like I've done

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Speaker 1: Obviously, you're a speaker, You're like a wellness ambassador. You

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Speaker 1: are the owner, founder director of studio PP. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a wellness hub. Yes, I would

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Speaker 1: say an all inclusive wellness space.

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Speaker 2: The verb and wellness space.

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Speaker 1: And I was doing my research in more than fifty

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Speaker 1: classes a week. Correct. Where when and where? Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you sleep here, but we're in Steph's apartment. Where

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie sleep when I'm dead. So here's the thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're mates. We've done a few talks together. I met

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Speaker 1: it's got to be seven eight years ago easily. So

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was like a pop up because

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Speaker 1: that's when we would have first crossed us. Oh, oh

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Speaker 1: We had this kind of like dinner thing the night

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Speaker 2: Oh, this chick's a bloody legend. I can't neither we

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Speaker 1: Totally. So basically the reason why I'm quite nervous about this,

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Speaker 1: Teach for you yoga and studio at the moment, it's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Our clients adore you. Oh but also Friday, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: I come to your pilates, you do exchanging and it

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Speaker 1: But this is where the nerves have come from for me.

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Speaker 1: I did some googling and I see like Halle boarding.

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Speaker 1: though amazed not. It's so if you actually scial snowboard,

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Speaker 1: You get dropped on a cliff and you get you

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a very like advantageous thing to do. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So when I found out that this about you, because

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Speaker 1: and then my mum was a mad skier, my dad

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Speaker 1: I didn't think big picture until I went to university.

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Speaker 1: that cusp, and it's really it was really hard to

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Speaker 1: break into the top twenty in the world. It was

433
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Speaker 1: really hard to break the top fifteen. So for me,

434
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Speaker 1: that next kind of like it sounds like realistic, chunk

435
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: sized bites of goals as well. Yeah, and I think,

436
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: like anything in life, a short term goals, long term goals,

437
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, realistically I went there, but long and

438
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: involved story show. I pulled out of the gate.

439
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: At the top of the course, I have these.

440
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Speaker 1: Huge screens where you can watch everyone in front of

441
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: you going down, and some people obviously choose to watch,

442
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: some people don't. It's great to watch the split seconds.

443
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: It's good to see what lines people are taking because

444
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: it's just a qualifying run. You've got a qualified there's

445
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: a line. Sorry. What they're doing is they're running, doing

446
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: the run the course for example. Yeah. So border Cross,

447
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: which was my event, is kind of like a giant

448
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: obstacle course. Yes, you know on just rail turns, sperms. Okay,

449
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 1: no rails, some call it rail like those big turns,

450
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: but technically no, like metal rails. It's all built out

451
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: of snow. It's essentially like a motocross course. Yeah, yeah, motocross,

452
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, motocross on snow. Six people at once, but

453
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: you have to do an individual qualifier. You have to

454
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Speaker 1: do two runs. So first run, I just had to

455
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Speaker 1: put a time down because I needed to qualify to

456
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: get through to the next round, and you had to

457
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: be qualified top twenty two in the world just to

458
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Speaker 1: make it to the Olympics, and then they only take

459
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Speaker 1: the next sixteen and then they cut from there. So

460
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: my goal I just had to be sitting in that,

461
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, that top sixteen, and then I really wanted

462
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Speaker 1: to break the top ten. First run, i'd watched my

463
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: three favorite, you know, most admired riders in front of

464
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: me go down and kill themselves in the qualifying run

465
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Speaker 1: like one bluer hip, one bluer elbow.

466
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: And one was just taken off in a in a stretcher.

467
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: And these girls are best in the world, like these

468
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: are the Canadians, the Austrians, the Swiss like I. So

469
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Speaker 1: I was that hence why I'd been to the toilet.

470
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: I was shitting bricks at this point. I was like,

471
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: just put a good run down. My coach was like,

472
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: just put a good run down. Anyway. First run, I

473
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Speaker 1: got through, It's very safe. But I finished in eleventh

474
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I can almost

475
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: taste it, like I'm so close to that top ten

476
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: and I got to the top of My coach was mortified.

477
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: He was like, it was slow, it wasn't good enough,

478
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: Like it was safe, but you've got to pull it

479
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Speaker 1: through on this next run. And you know, when you

480
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: read I read biographies. I love a good bio biography,

481
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: like an autobiography. Sorry, And when I was going through

482
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: because I was reading all these athletes autobiographies just for

483
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: the mindset, I'm just like everyone watches sport. I love sport,

484
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: but I watched the backstories. Yeah, the athletes I love,

485
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, so I got in the gate and

486
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: I had that moment that you read about in all

487
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: those books where they're like, it just goes quiet, It

488
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: just goes quiet, and all of a sudden, it's just

489
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: you and it's the course and you just you're in

490
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: the zone and you just pull out and it's just

491
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: tunnel vision like you were saying, and you're doing it.

492
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: And I could feel it and I felt it under

493
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Speaker 1: my feet. I felt it in you know, in my waters.

494
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the run. And it was

495
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: smoother and it was better than any of my training runs.

496
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Speaker 1: And I was definitely carrying more speed because I was

497
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: clearing the jumps a lot easier, and I could just

498
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Speaker 1: feel I was I had better rhythm, and I was like,

499
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: come on, it meant so much, you know, to me

500
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: at that point, because it doesn't matter how many people

501
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: you have around you when to get to the Olympics,

502
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: you're on your own totally. You are on your own.

503
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Speaker 1: So you've got this, you know, internal dialogue that's talking

504
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: to you the whole way down the course. You have

505
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: to coach yourself essentially down the course. You've got this

506
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: next turn, this bank looks like this, it feels like

507
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: that stay on your feet, you know everything. And I

508
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: came round there was this one little double feature and

509
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: by double end, and you had to there's two little

510
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: jumps and you have to double them go over them

511
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: at the same time. And I came up just this

512
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: wee bit short on this double and I was like, oh,

513
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: save your feet, like I got it. But then the

514
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: next one, it means I came up short again. So

515
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: the third one, I came up way short, and then

516
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: over the next jump, I just like, absolutely eight shit

517
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: and literally just I must have I just knocked out

518
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: for a second or two. And it turns out I

519
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: blew a few ribs, like I winded myself completely, just

520
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: blew out. I went down to the bottom of the course.

521
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: Obviously they help you off the course. I wasn't allowed

522
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: to finish the course because I'd missed a gate at

523
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: this point, so you're done. You just it's a DQ.

524
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: So what's a dequalification. Disqualification so that means they have

525
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: to take your first run that took out from your

526
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: first run, and I was still sitting in eleventh, so

527
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I just need to hold onto that.

528
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: And then I went down the bottom and so from

529
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: my second run. I was now sitting in thirteenth and

530
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm still in the mix, still

531
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: in the minutes, I have to finish top sixteen, and

532
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: you've done Ribs. At this stage of the game, I've reken,

533
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: but I'm not focused on that. At this stage, I

534
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm racing, Like, just keep me in.

535
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: And you get to the bottom and there's obviously there's

536
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: those huge screens there names on it, and then you

537
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: watch and you count down and there was literally only

538
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: four or five riders to go for the day for qualifying,

539
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: and I just watched myself go from thirteenth, fourteenth, fifteenth, sixteenth,

540
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: seventeenth because the course was just running so much better

541
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: the second run.

542
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: I felt it, everyone felt it.

543
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: Everyone put in a better run because everyone had been

544
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: so safe, and I missed qualifying by literally one person.

545
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: It was heartbreaking. Oh dude, so how oh fuck? Yeah?

546
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, I've spent a lot of money

547
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: on time on therapy. Now, yeah, I've read it now,

548
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: but at the time it was At the time, it

549
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: was horrendous. You sharing that story actually reminds me of

550
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: that first talk I was at that you in Sydney

551
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: that you came to and you said, when you're standing

552
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: at the gates, that you have this moment and you're like,

553
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: have I done everything? And I remember you saying like

554
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: you just want to know that you've done everything that

555
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: I can. And I took that away as like just

556
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: I think as anyone whether you want to be an

557
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: Olympian or not, or whether you want to write a

558
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: book or whether you want to you know, open an

559
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: amazing health space. You know. I think that feeling of

560
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: going you know what, I've given this my heart. I've

561
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: given this everything physically, mentally, emotionally, I've given it everything.

562
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: Is that I remember that moment, that penny drop moment.

563
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: It's like that is like a gem, Like if you

564
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: can live with that, Like obviously, sure in the moment,

565
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: you would have felt horrible and you would have just

566
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: watched yourself and would have been like, someone's just stab

567
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: you in the heart. Every time you're seeing your name drop,

568
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: I can imagine so my.

569
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: Neck, but you can't control.

570
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: I did do everything in that moment that I could

571
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: of and you know, things happened for a reason. But

572
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very very at peace with it these days,

573
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: and still very proud of where I finished and made

574
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: I achieved. Most people don't even get to the gate.

575
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: It's true. It's a nice way to look at it.

576
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: So seriously, you are like, this is one thing, like

577
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: take a moment like like and that's when why coming

578
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: in here to interview, I got quite nervous because I

579
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: was like, shit, this girl's done heaps and not just

580
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: like heaps of living. Like we're the exact same age.

581
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: We're literally just two months apart pretty much, and shout

582
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: out to just birthday when it was last week, Happy birthday,

583
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: can Syrian Cancerrien. But you and I get along because

584
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: I think we feel like old souls an a young

585
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: body we deal with lived a life.

586
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: We've lived a life.

587
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: But so my next question is how soon was Vancouver

588
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: to Italy because that was World Cup? Right, Yes, So

589
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: I think people don't know the Olympics sit in the

590
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: middle of the season, so people think it's like the

591
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: finale and it's not. It's it's one of the events

592
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: that counts towards your world ranking and it sits in

593
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: the middle of the season. So coming off the back

594
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: of the Olympics, you can imagine I was a little disheartened.

595
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: That's under an understatement at the time, and I was

596
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: very injured. I'd broken a few ribs and I just

597
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: wasn't in a great place. And about six weeks later

598
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: was World Cup Finals, and I was determined to go

599
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: to World Cup Finals. I wanted to finish the season off.

600
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: It'd been the biggest four years of my life getting.

601
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: To that point.

602
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: So I missed one of the events, but I really

603
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: wanted to go to finals, and I just I felt

604
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: I had something to prove. And look, this is a

605
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: big lesson I've learned later in life. But you know,

606
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: and this is where I had my injury, and this

607
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: is where it all ended for me. But I stopped

608
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: racing for myself that day. It became about what I

609
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: was trying to prove. And I was so upset about

610
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: what I didn't get to achieve at the Olympics that

611
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: it became about showing trying to prove what kind of

612
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: snowbody was and that the athlete that I could be,

613
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: and which is also understandable totally, I guess, a very

614
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: understandable mindset. But I you know, and I learned even

615
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: these days, we all do it to ourselves where we

616
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, there's no point you know, trying to prove

617
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: something to others. Know, you've got to walk the walk,

618
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: talk to talk yourself. And I just I lost that

619
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: for a moment and the passion went out of it.

620
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: It was all about finishing that season and getting through

621
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: that last race and proving something. And unfortunately, I truly

622
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: believe that's why I hurt myself that day, because I

623
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: just wasn't in my normal state. I wasn't riding with authenticity.

624
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't riding with purpose. Like you said earlier, it's

625
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: it became mechanical, it became a rape, heart became it

626
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: was gone. And when I read this, I lost my shit.

627
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: Was it a sixty foot jump when you did? Yes?

628
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: Holy fuck, Yes, it was a very large kicker that

629
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: I came off. Jump that I came off. It's and

630
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: look to be. And like you said, it is an

631
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: it's an action sport. But when we when we it's

632
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: in that sport, we're hitting those kind of jumps there,

633
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: it's calculated to a point because we have hit them before.

634
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: It's not like you just have the right speed. I

635
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: read done done your research, which such a rest you

636
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: wax your board and you get it running to match

637
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: the temperature of the snow, and that's how you get

638
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: your speed, and so you do all of that, and

639
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many factors that go into getting

640
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: it right on the day, and essentially it comes down

641
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: to having, like in a lot of sports, I believe

642
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: in having a lot of self belief and a huge

643
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: set of balls, because on the day you just have

644
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: to turn up and do the best you can and

645
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: you're only as good as your last race. So and

646
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: you know that goes so much for business now, like

647
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff we do, you know, you

648
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: still have to turn up and you still have to perform,

649
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: and you still have to do a good job.

650
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: And stay true to yourself.

651
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: So I just anyway, I'd been writing the course all morning.

652
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: It was a very challenging course by no means to set,

653
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, but just to paint you a picture. A

654
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: lot of the athletes were injuring themselves, male and female.

655
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: So the girls race on the same course as the male,

656
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: soays always so when the boys in training the same

657
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: amount of prize money there actually is more amazing, which

658
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: is cool. There's not a lot of it in general, okay,

659
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: but it matches. Yeah, you know, we killed ourselves like

660
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: these these guys like.

661
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: You know, even the top five in the world.

662
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: You know, you still only win ten fifteen grand Well, wow,

663
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: there's no money in it. It's passion, it's sport, it's hard,

664
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: it's love, you know. But you know, action sports heroes

665
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: make their money out of sponsorships, not necessarily out of

666
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: the game and the race itself. But anyway, I came

667
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: around the last turn'd race. I'd run the course a

668
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: few times. The top of the course felt great, the

669
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: bottom of the course was sketchy. A lot of the

670
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: boys were saying, the run the last jump before the

671
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: finish line doesn't feel great, and they weren't making it.

672
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: So if the boys they have more weight, they have

673
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: more speed than us and they're not making it, you know,

674
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: it's it puts a shady little image in your head

675
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: as a female, because we just know we're not carrying

676
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: the same speed. So we often would chase the boys

677
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: down to get an idea of speed, and a lot

678
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: of the girls were pulling off the course because this

679
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: jump was so treacherous. So my coach had said, only

680
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: hit the jump if you know you have the speed.

681
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: Do not go near it otherwise, and so all morning

682
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: I'd avoid the jump, avoided the jump, and in my

683
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: last training run Murphy's Law, last training run of the day,

684
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: last race of the season, last jump before the finish line,

685
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: last feature out, everything right, I came around the turn.

686
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: It was a big so carrying a lot of speed.

687
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: You're carrying up to sixty you know, sixty k an

688
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: hour coming around the last turn, and I felt it

689
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, I've definitely got the speed.

690
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: I feel good. I haven't felt like this in the

691
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: other training runs. And I saw the jump, but what

692
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: I hadn't accounted for was the fact that a lot

693
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: of us were been pulling off all morning, so it

694
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: had left a big dint in the course where everyone

695
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: was pulling off the course. So just didn't allow for it.

696
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: But in my head, I'd committed to hitting the jump,

697
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: which you have to do when you're going to hit

698
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: a sixty foot jump. Yeah, I have to be committed.

699
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: But then under my feet I felt the from the

700
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: from where we'd all been cutting off, and I should

701
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: have known. I was one of the people cutting off

702
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: the course and morning, and I just lost a lot

703
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: of speed when I hit the bump, and but in

704
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: my head I was already like, no, no, I've got this.

705
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to hit it, but I've lost a lot

706
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: of speed. Anyway, I came off the jump and in

707
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: the air, literally in the air, I was like, oh,

708
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm fucked, and that's never happened to me before. Like

709
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: I said, it's normally really calculated. You just know, you

710
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: feel the speed under your feet, you feel pretty good,

711
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: you go for it.

712
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: In the air. It's literally like I came up.

713
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: My visio explains it like coming out of the first

714
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: floor building to concrete. I just came up and stopped,

715
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: and I missed the landing and I came up short.

716
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: I came up like meats and meter short of the landing,

717
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: so I had no transition, no roll out, nothing. I

718
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: hit flat and my left hand side of my body

719
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: took the fort took the hit, and I you know,

720
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: I fractured my lower spine. I did severe damage to

721
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: my pelvis, I dislocated my hip. I broke five ribs,

722
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: I tore my hamstring. I did like a severe spinal

723
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: whiplash and upper survival damage. Like it. It was essentially

724
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: like a car accident like just the whiplash with you

725
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: blackout as it happened, Yes, yeah, when as I hit

726
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: the ground, yes, yeah, I kode. Yeah, but I remember

727
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: it like when I came to I was in a

728
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: lot of pain, so I remember the accident itself. But yeah,

729
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I was definitely out for a moment because I hit

730
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: the deck pretty hard. I saw a photo of you

731
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: and your whole back is just brewed like blood bruises.

732
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Yeah. I wasn't allowed to fly because I

733
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: was in Europe. I wasn't allowed to fly home for

734
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: two months because of the hematomas. Yeah, that you can't

735
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: fly with blood clots of course. Holy it is the

736
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: beginning of the beginning of an end or the end

737
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: of a new beginning essentially. Well, not to be a

738
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: Debbie downer here, but because this is themed around failing,

739
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: I imagine, yeah, well I imagine that would have felt.

740
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: Like a huge failure at the time.

741
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: How do you start to because you would have been

742
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: what twenty four, twenty four? Yeah, twenty four, so that's

743
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: pretty a young that's a young age to lose everything

744
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: you've worked like that would have been your life. Like

745
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: I think for me, definitely, it was harder mentally than

746
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: it was physically, even though the injury itself was quite

747
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: debilitating and horrendous and still gives me troubles to this day,

748
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: Like eight years later, I still have severe back pain,

749
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: but just mentally what it did to me, it shook

750
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: me to my core because I just wasn't ready to

751
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: walk away from sport. I hadn't made that decision on

752
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: my own, so that for me, I think, was the

753
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: hardest part, coming to the realization that I wouldn't compete again,

754
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: not something I was ready for. And it didn't matter

755
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: who told me or what specialists I went to or

756
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: how many opinions I seek. Everyone was like, we just

757
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: don't think you should race again. And I just couldn't

758
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: hear that from someone else, So it took me. You know,

759
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: I was off my snowball for two years, which nearly

760
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: killed me because I just couldn't and the injury took

761
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: a lot longer than I thought. Like ironically, I now

762
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: teach pilarates, but I back in the day, I could

763
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: not even get through a twenty minute Palartes session without

764
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: being in horrendous amounts of pain. You know, the shock,

765
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: the anxiety, the stress of it all is pretty overbearing.

766
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: But at the time I was just in it. I

767
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: was just writing it, so I probably didn't understand the

768
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: severity of it. The fact that I wanted to go

769
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: back to snowboarding got me through it, I think, because

770
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: there was light at the end of the tunnel. So

771
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: my question is, like, for me, most of my history

772
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: is eating disorder and bingeating and what not. So if

773
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: something was not right in my life, I try to

774
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: self medicate. Yes to this day, like, I have a

775
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: therapist to help me through that. So I like shit

776
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: day and I can push, really push the envelope back

777
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: in the past, I could really go to town on

778
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: really abusing my body. How did you, I imagine you

779
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: may not have had a therapist at that stage of

780
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: your life. It's funny because I never had a sports

781
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: psychologist for sport, but I got a sports psychologist when

782
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: I broke my back, when I had my own injury,

783
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: and not by my own choice. I was. I was

784
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: at the Victorian Institute of Sport at the time and

785
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: they were amazing to me, helping me through my recovery.

786
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: But I speaking of self medicating, I was I had

787
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: a massive like and this is no secret painkiller addiction

788
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: for years because and I didn't even realize I had one.

789
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: I was just that's what in it the doctors were

790
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: giving me, and I was in so much pain that

791
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: I just kept taking the medication.

792
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: So I didn't realize that at twenty.

793
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: Four you shouldn't be taking oxycodon to operate by day

794
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: in valium to go to sleep at night. And you know,

795
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: two years into that journey, I had to come to

796
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: a very you know, realization myself that I don't want

797
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: to I don't want to be twenty five twenty you know, however,

798
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: old I was not being able to function like a

799
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: regular human. I used to dance and I used to surf,

800
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: and I used to be this action sports you know, junkie,

801
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: and I couldn't do any of it. I just couldn't

802
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: do any of it. So you're medicated every day for

803
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: how many years? Almost two years? And it was actually

804
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: an incredible coach of mine shout out to Crooksy at

805
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: the time that kind of pulled me up on it,

806
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: and he was like, I just I don't think you

807
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: should keep coming to the gym and training until we

808
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: get your head and your body in a better space.

809
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: And he referred me to an unreal sports psychologist who

810
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: I'd had bad history with sports psychologists just because I'm

811
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: such an atype personality. I'd always had these psychologists that

812
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: wanted me to calm down, you know, be a little calmer.

813
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: And maybe you shouldn't listen to Britney Spears and Ministry

814
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: of Sound before you compete. Maybe that's revving you up.

815
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: To me, have you thought about listening to some you know?

816
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, and you know you should take up meditation,

817
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: you know. And at seventeen that wasn't working for me,

818
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: and I didn't understand. You know, I'm a very different

819
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 1: person today and I'm you know, I mean, I'm into

820
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: everything today. I've gone the completely other direction. But at

821
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: the time I couldn't hear any of that. And then

822
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: I was introduced to this sports like who literally helped

823
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: me turn my life back around and reframe failure. And

824
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, failure is inevitable anyway, So I'm

825
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: all about failure. I don't think people think it's such

826
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: a negative word. It's so not so when you were like,

827
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing a podcast about failure, I was like, yes.

828
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: They do, you know?

829
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: Gary Ve says the most successful people, they chase failure

830
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: like they look forward to fucking up. Basically, one thing

831
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: you just touched on that I just quickly want to

832
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: dissect it took your right to find the right fit

833
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: with a psychologist. So I think if people listening are like,

834
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of getting a therapist or seeing someone like

835
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: it's taken. It took me to find a good one

836
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: a few years of like trying like try them on,

837
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: give them a few sessions, because it does take a bit,

838
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: especially with a type personalities. I know you're one, I

839
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: know I'm one. It takes a bit to find that

840
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: kind of because it becomes a relationship. It's a relationship.

841
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: You need to find someone that understands, you know, your

842
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: way of living, like Mike Guy trains trained Sam Solomon,

843
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: like fire fighters, like people that are like hey type.

844
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, there's nothing wrong with celebrating being

845
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: an a type. I think any if you try to

846
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: like be like, well, you just need.

847
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: To meditate more. I feel like punching someone in the space.

848
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: My boyfriend of Lile's meditating is like, can you meditate

849
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: with me?

850
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh shit, I should have walked, but

851
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: I do it.

852
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: I do it and I struggle with it. It's so challenging.

853
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: Oh so is real.

854
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: This brings me to like the net that I guess,

855
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: the stuff that I got to know, and this is

856
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: like the wellness step. It's like, you know, you're a mogul,

857
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: you know you're You've got uh this incredible space. You know,

858
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: it's such a dream. Like I've talked quite a few

859
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: different places, it's such a dream to teach at PP,

860
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: not just because it's like a sick cool studio, but because.

861
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: You've built a community that give a ship. That's such

862
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: a nice way of putting it. You know. We do

863
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: often say it's a fuck with free zone. Yes very much.

864
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: So if I'm allowed to say that, can we have

865
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: that for all areas of life? I'm yeah. Oh look,

866
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of Student OPP. It's been a hard slog.

867
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: It's not been easy, and it was it became my attention,

868
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: my focus, my everything when I left sport because I

869
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: needed somewhere to put and I quote my sports psychologist,

870
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: we need to put all this energy somewhere else of

871
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: house DOOPP was That's how it was born, and it

872
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: honestly was born out of women's boot camps. I just

873
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: started doing ladies boot camps at the Tan here in Melbourne.

874
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: And I remember when I first told my mom. I

875
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: was like, I think I'm going to do this thing.

876
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: She was like, right, this is great, this is awesome.

877
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: And you know, to be fair, my parents had probably

878
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: seen me not in my best space for those few years,

879
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: so they were like probably looking for that. They were

880
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: waiting for that get up and go to come back.

881
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: And you know a few of my probably inner circle

882
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: type people saw it again, so they're like, yeah, yeah, fitness,

883
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: bloody's cool. Yeah, let's do it. So Mum was like,

884
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, I know women and women know women's amazing

885
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: will come.

886
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: We'll come and we will come number one. You know,

887
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: build it and they will come.

888
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: So I went from doing you know, two mums groups

889
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: a week at the Tan to having twenty five women's

890
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: groups and I was like, shit, there's really something to this.

891
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: And I was recovering myself, Like I couldn't do half

892
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: the moves I was teaching. I was so injured myself.

893
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: But what I realized, and I guess what I worked

894
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: out through this whole process, is that I'm I was

895
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: still a good coach, and I didn't have to be

896
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: able to do everything inable to help other inspire other

897
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: people to be able to find it and do it

898
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: in themselves. And that's and through my whole training experience.

899
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean when I was professional athor, I killed myself

900
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: like physically, mentally, emotionally, financially, kind of like running a business.

901
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: I took it to the nth degree, and the sport

902
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: ended up killing me. It really did. Like I just

903
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: I wasn't built for sport. I mentally had it in me.

904
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: I really think mentally I was born to be an athlete,

905
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: but physically, like I kind of just got like no

906
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: offense moment, but like got the genetics of like a potato.

907
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: So I just didn't really have like a lot to

908
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: work with. And even now, like modern day coaching sports coaching,

909
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: they wouldn't scout me because I'm you know, I'm just

910
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm hyper mobile and my body doesn't have good range

911
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: in certain areas. But I was. I was just a

912
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: fucking good snowboarder and passion. You're a passionate allah, And

913
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: it's the same in my business, Like like a lot

914
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: of entrepreneurs, a lot of probably a lot of business people.

915
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't know what the fuck you're doing, but

916
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: you're having more of a crack than the average person

917
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: and that will get you further every time. So that's that,

918
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, PEP literally just came out of that alone.

919
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: So with the rise of PP, I feel like you're

920
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: you've also you might hate this word, you'll tell me

921
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: if you do, but you've become like this wellness celebrity.

922
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: You've become this, you know, an ambassador of health and wellness,

923
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: like you're an ambassador for awesome brands and you, you know,

924
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: we were just talking about stuff you're doing soon for

925
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: like companies before this even started. And I think you

926
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: even yourself, Like I was watching the logis and you

927
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: put up on your instant like all the people at

928
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: the logis that you train, and I'm like, holy shit,

929
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: this girl is like is it weird? Is it weird

930
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: to like be part of that? So you've got this

931
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: kind of like wellness situation. But then you've kind of

932
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: got this, like you've got this profile, and how do

933
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: you cope with that? Does it feel weird? Like? I

934
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: mean not really, I've never really thought about it like that,

935
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: but it just feels right, like I don't know what

936
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: the right answer is, but I think it's like you

937
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: and I we get along so well because we are

938
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: so similar and we believe how values are so aligned.

939
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: So I think that's the same I guess in any

940
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: kind of business. And it just seems funny because I,

941
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, essentially train certain people or I'm personal trainer

942
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: or polities in struct word. But I think it's like

943
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: in any business. You know, you attract what you put

944
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: out there, you get back. And I'm very open and

945
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: honest about our method and we you know, we openly

946
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: promote its studio PP long term personal engagement, not short

947
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: term you know, superficial bullsheet. Essentially like we're not a

948
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: quick fix, We're not a twenty eight day challenge. We're

949
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: not about you know, Instagram and all of that. It's

950
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: obviously we use all of that as a business tool,

951
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: but essentially, like at the heart and the root and

952
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: the core of the business is about it's called PP.

953
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: So PP stands for Premium performance. It's about being the

954
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: most premium version of yourself performing at your best, whatever

955
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: that may look like or feel like to you personally.

956
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: It's like personal power, personal performance, premium performance. I just

957
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: I love that idea of that little element of premium.

958
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: It's like premium economy. It's just like a slight upgrade

959
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: on yourself. Yeah, which we all want. Everyone wants an upgrade.

960
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: Everyone wants an upgrade. And that's and that's I think

961
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: that's a big part of what we do. And I

962
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: like to say to people like I don't like you know,

963
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: everyone goes, oh, your personal trainer, you do exercise, and

964
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I exercise mind, body, and spirit.

965
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: Yes.

966
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: I read that on your website in the about section. Yeah,

967
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: So I just like, I think we exercise people a

968
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: lot in a lot of different facets of their life.

969
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: And that's why I think maybe a lot of those

970
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: high achieving, high profile people are attracted to our method

971
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: and what we do because we can relate on those levels.

972
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: And a lot of my trainers have come from sport

973
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: and they've come from you know, performance backgrounds. They get it.

974
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: I also think pilates is friggin hard, and.

975
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: So you've got to have a little bit of that,

976
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: like a TYPEINU. And one thing true, I'm loving my

977
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: nine point thirty class with you on Fridays.

978
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: But you check in.

979
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: It loves you with everyone though, you'll check in and

980
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: be like, hey, you feeling, tell me about your body quickly,

981
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: you'll make time for every single person. That's an experience

982
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: that I haven't experienced in other spaces before. And I

983
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: know even it ta yoga and you don't either, like,

984
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: yeahy guys, we're going to do yoga today. This is

985
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: the theme. That's all. We're going to work towards this

986
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: peak post. And I'll be like at the start when

987
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm checking in, I'm like, we're working with any injuries.

988
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: But like you get in there, get in the space,

989
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: make eye contact, make and being a new person to

990
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: polaty it's like make people feel comfortable in your space.

991
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: It's very safe, it's very healing.

992
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: It's meant to be non intimidating.

993
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: I think there's so much intimidation around health and fitness

994
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: and I oh, I mean I went from being a

995
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: professional athlete to having to start again, like my body,

996
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: I had to start from square zero, and I learned

997
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: what it felt like to start again, and it was

998
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 1: an intimidating, overwhelming, horrendous experience. And I think so many

999
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: people can relate to that because whether they've you know,

1000
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: put on weight or they've let themselves go. They've had trauma,

1001
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: or they've had something happened to them, or they've had

1002
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: an injury, or they're coming back, you know, they've finally

1003
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: got their kids out of the house, their empty nest,

1004
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, and they're coming back to themselves,

1005
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: not just physically, but mentally, emotionally, spiritually, whatever that may be.

1006
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: Like, I think we're really good.

1007
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: At that starting point, whatever that may be for people.

1008
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to talk about what's new for POP?

1009
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: Sure?

1010
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: I mean to a point ye.

1011
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Yes, we are expanding, yeah, and we're opening yes, So

1012
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm insane. So people that live into state or potentially

1013
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: oversea's listening to this. PP is in Southierra currently, so

1014
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: that's a cool part of Melbourne. What's next? What's next?

1015
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: So we are expanding, We're I mean, you can train

1016
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: if you can't come to the studo, you can train

1017
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: with myself online. We have an online training program. But

1018
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: if you're in Melbourne, I you'll be very happy to

1019
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: know that we are opening a second location in about

1020
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: three four months time. So it's very exciting.

1021
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: And like you're talking about sleep, I've had none.

1022
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: I do. I don't know how you do it okay. So,

1023
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: like you said, we were talking before about being a

1024
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: little bit like those a type as that we're a

1025
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: little bit addicted to the Oh it's like a dr

1026
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: The hardship, yeah, I just you know, that is all

1027
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: part of it. So we pull each other up on

1028
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: that a lot, which I love because we tend to

1029
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: hit ourselves pretty hard, totally. And that's my whole philosophy

1030
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: around wellness is I thank you, you just call me whatever,

1031
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: You just call me a wellness something, but I wellness

1032
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: gets thrown around too easily. But I love like all

1033
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: encompassing wellness is what I live for, I stand for,

1034
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. But I'm the first person to

1035
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: put my hand up and say that I am not perfect,

1036
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: and I fuck up as well, and I'm learning as

1037
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: much as everyone else is. And I just share my

1038
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: knowledge and I share what I know and what I

1039
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: love and what resonates. But it doesn't necessarily mean that

1040
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: I am, you know, living but no one need is.

1041
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: This is the thing that everyone thinks because and we

1042
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: often do talk about this. There are so many especially

1043
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: in the health and wellness world. I call them dingoes.

1044
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: You probably call them fuck withs I'm not sure, but

1045
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: there are so many people that aren't the real deal,

1046
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: and they are pretty fake and more interested in like

1047
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: sponsored posts. And we do do that for work, that's

1048
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: part of what we do. But like, absolutely, there are

1049
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: so many people that are fake. And I'm like, mate,

1050
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: just be real and have a real conversation. If you're

1051
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna tell me you love me every time you see me,

1052
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: then why don't you actually up and want to ever

1053
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: see me one on one when there's no cameras around,

1054
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, like or like were it?

1055
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I saw it in sport as well.

1056
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: It's everywhere I get. Absolutely it exists, you know, across

1057
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: the border, and I'm sure in a lot of industries.

1058
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: But I mean my like, one of my mottos that

1059
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: I just live by is like, and this is so

1060
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: from sport, but like stay in your own lane. Yeah,

1061
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: just stay in your own lane. Just be good at

1062
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing and do it well, and especially

1063
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: like and again, it's it's so transferable, not just at

1064
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: that elite level of sport, but anything like if you

1065
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: worry about what your competitors are doing, you're fucked. Yeah, totally.

1066
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: You know, I've raced in an event where I had

1067
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: five other competitors in the so our start gate was

1068
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: like the horse racing gate at the at the Melbourne Cup.

1069
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: You know, like we all come out of to each

1070
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: other and you're next to each other and you all

1071
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: pull out of the gate at the exact same time.

1072
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: If I'm looking at what like Lawla's doing next to me,

1073
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: I can't focus on my own line and possibly get

1074
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: to the finish line first. Obviously I have to use like,

1075
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of intuition and you know

1076
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of side eye, and I need to

1077
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: understand what's going on around me. But if I focus

1078
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: on it, no chance am I going to have my

1079
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: best race. So I just try to, you know, not

1080
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: get caught up in there is a very much a

1081
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: wellness world scene. Oh mate, it's a joke. It's a joke.

1082
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: It's a joke. It's so fully But I think that's

1083
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: why you and I have become magnets because I was.

1084
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: I remember I said to you, oh fuck, I just

1085
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: feel sick I do these offens, and you were like, mate,

1086
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: it was just this why you don't see me at

1087
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: a lot of it. In fact, we went as a

1088
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: date to it one together. I loved that. Actually that

1089
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: was fun. I'm actually you know, and I do. I

1090
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: really just enjoy it for what it is now. And

1091
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: I've you know, you and I probably both have our

1092
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: businesses to a place where it's really comfortable to be

1093
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: able to step outside of business and go to those

1094
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: kind of things and really enjoy yourself. And it's all

1095
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: part of what we do. But yeah, I mean essentially,

1096
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: I just you know, you know, I have feed be like, oh,

1097
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know girls that work for me or

1098
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: I have worked for me, Like oh yeah, yeah, she's

1099
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, runs a pretty tight ship, which I'm flattered.

1100
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, God that makes me happy. Like

1101
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: I like to learn boundaries, you know. I struggle, like

1102
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: the rest of us with boundaries, So I try to

1103
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: live that way. I really try to stay in my

1104
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: own lane and just focus on what we're doing. And

1105
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: I believe in our craft and what we do. And yeah,

1106
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: your message is solid, and it's almost like you've done

1107
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: in a full circle and come back to this. You've

1108
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: found dharma again, You've found purpose again, Like what was

1109
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: this the snowboarding? Well said before I have one question

1110
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: about dancing, but before that and I am keeping an

1111
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: eye on at the time. I know I've got you

1112
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: for a certain amount of time. I Is there any

1113
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: this is like just me opening up the table. This

1114
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: is about failing. Is there anything like another thing that

1115
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: I think you and I have bonded over is we're

1116
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: just so fucking vulnerable with each other and there's no bullshit,

1117
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: which I love. Is there any like moment or speed

1118
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: harm or anything like I know we've talked deeply about,

1119
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: like the snowboarding and stuff. Is there anything where you're

1120
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: just like, what the fuck? Have I just what's happened

1121
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: right now? And have you when you've been in it

1122
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: been like have I fucked up? And kind of is

1123
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: basically what I'm asking is is there anything else that

1124
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: you've felt like while.

1125
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: You've been in it that is a failure?

1126
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm yeah. I mean, like I said, I, failure is horrendous.

1127
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us put this a negative

1128
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: connotation on failure. The best things in my life have

1129
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: come out of failure. If I didn't break my back,

1130
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have left sport. If I didn't leave sport,

1131
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have found it Studio PP and I wouldn't

1132
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: have found it, So there's there's always a silver lining.

1133
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: There always is. I think everyone has failure and hardship

1134
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: in their life. But it's how you how you attack it,

1135
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: what you do with it. So when I'm in it

1136
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: and it happens a lot, like in business, it's hard.

1137
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: Like I often say, business is harder than sport. I

1138
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: just like I killed myself in sport, but it was

1139
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: more physical. You know, business throws more elements at you.

1140
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: You know, You've you've got staff members, You've got other

1141
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: people to think about it. You've got a budget, you've

1142
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: got a bottom line, you've got mouths to feed.

1143
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: You've got to keep yourself alive.

1144
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: You've I mean, for me, every time I make so

1145
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: many mistakes in my business, you know, like I fuck

1146
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: up a lot, and it's you get really hard on yourself.

1147
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: Like when I first opened the business, I was like,

1148
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: what am I done? Like what what if I I've done?

1149
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Like take me back to the tan, Take me back

1150
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: to the park where life was simple and I got

1151
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: paid in coffees and you know these beautiful women that

1152
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: we'd hang out. You know, it's so different when there's

1153
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: responsibilities and overheads and whatever, but without all of that

1154
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: you you know, there's no challenge, and you don't learn,

1155
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: and it's not you know, and you don't read the

1156
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: rewards either, because when you have a good day, fuck,

1157
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: it's so rewarding and the failure goes away, you know, quickly.

1158
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: But when you're in it, like I've had to learn,

1159
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, to really have a toolkit of things to

1160
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: refer to, because I think with failure or thoughts of failure,

1161
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: let's say, because failure looks different to fucking everyone, right,

1162
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: So what I might think see is a failure, you

1163
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: might see is something awesome. But when you're in it,

1164
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: like you have to know you're in it and understand

1165
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: that you're in it and know that you're working through it,

1166
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: because you can't come out of it quickly and you

1167
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: actually can't get past it. You have to actually genuinely

1168
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: do the work to get through it and understand what

1169
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: am I being? What am I learning? What am I

1170
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: What is the lesson here? What can I what can

1171
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: I what can come out of this? Which is a

1172
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: really hard question to ask yourself, and I've found myself

1173
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 1: asking myself that so often even recently, Like I'm going

1174
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: into it another business, you know, I've I've had a

1175
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: lot of personal challenges recently, like I just and it's

1176
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: just it challenges you. But I try not to frame

1177
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: things as failure. I think you just have to everyone's

1178
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: going through their own shit. You just have to cup up,

1179
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: mentalize totally. But you're much stronger than you give yourself

1180
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: credit for. And that's I don't know where, like.

1181
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: I am opening the space if you do want to

1182
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: share anything personal.

1183
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I've gone out of a relationship recently, and that's that's

1184
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: a long, long term, long term relationship. And I mean,

1185
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: I personally don't see it as failure because it was

1186
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: a wonderful relationship and like people grow apart and my

1187
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: partner and I literally just chose to call the shots

1188
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: on something where we've grown apart from each other and

1189
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: it's it's still sad and it's still hard, and other

1190
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: people frame it as a failure. This is what So

1191
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: you and I've shared a little bit of this. I

1192
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: feel like I have been with you for a little

1193
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: bit of this, and I remember you saying to me

1194
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: you told someone that, So just to put this into

1195
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: a perspective, we're talking in a living year marriage, eight

1196
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: year marriage, any relationship yeah, yeah, And I remember you

1197
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: said you told someone and they were like, why didn't

1198
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: you tell me sooner? And it quickly became about them, Yes,

1199
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: very much. So I'm like, holy shit, man, this girl.

1200
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: And I remember you went away on.

1201
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: A trip and I just remember writing to you.

1202
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: You've done the work, go and fucking enjoy yourself, and

1203
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: you have like you're such a cheerleader, but testament to you,

1204
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: Like I think, and when you mentioned that you were

1205
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 1: comfortable to potentially touch on this, I think other people

1206
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: aren't comfortable sitting in failure.

1207
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: That's a big one.

1208
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: So it's really hard when you get vulnerable enough to

1209
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: share what may be framed as a failure or something

1210
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: that's happened to you. It's it's it's that other people

1211
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: aren't very good at holding space when someone else is

1212
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: in failure or in a hardship, you know. I think

1213
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: that's what people really struggle with, and then how you

1214
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: frame it makes them uncomfortable totally. So I guess like

1215
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: when I fell over at the Olympics, Yeah, like the

1216
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, the backlash from that was hot. That was

1217
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: hard because people are like, oh, no, one focused on

1218
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: the fact that I'd qualify for the Olympics. All that

1219
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: could focus on was that I'd fallen over a the Olympics.

1220
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: This is where I think like almost ossies love like

1221
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: finding that because of the tall, poppy things, and they

1222
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: kind of into it, right. And I think the reason

1223
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: why I just wanted to touch on the heart stuff

1224
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: is because Lou was your coach for a while, right yeah, yeah,

1225
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: and so like you would have experienced all of that,

1226
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: those emotions of competing, and we went through so many

1227
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: milestones together.

1228
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: On top of the mountain, right yeah, and your gun boots.

1229
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: Yes, you're officially my hero. People have to ski and

1230
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: snow amazing. Your life is a movie.

1231
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: That is a movie hilarious. As I've said, there's no

1232
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: failure in all this.

1233
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: It's like this is and that was the most wonderful

1234
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: time of our lives. And we went through so many milestones,

1235
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: and you know, we probably just got to a point

1236
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: where there was not not as much excitement anymore in

1237
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: our life because we've been through so many things and

1238
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: we change, you know, and people do grow a pardon

1239
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: and people see that as a failure. It's like when

1240
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: people lose friends later in life. I feel a lot

1241
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: of people are talking to me about that recently, maybe

1242
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: because I've I've come out of a long term relationship

1243
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: and people want to talk to me about either their

1244
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: relationships or their friendships that they've fallen through and things

1245
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: like that. But it's things happen for real people, things

1246
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: do who live their course.

1247
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: Is that the right way of saying it?

1248
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: And there's a beautiful what you've said is beautiful because

1249
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: what you shared was epic, it was awesome. It made

1250
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: you who you are today, seriously, and I think people

1251
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: find it weird when I'm like, especially when I first

1252
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: start dating guy, I'm like, ah, like, I'm really rapped

1253
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: that I had these past experiences in these past because

1254
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: they've helped me become the person that you're meeting today. Friends,

1255
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: you learn the best lessons from the bad boyfriend and

1256
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: like beautiful ones and beautiful experiences. I was with someone

1257
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: I you know, we had engagement rings designed, you know,

1258
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: and it was that beautiful like, but there was a

1259
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: point where I was like wow, like and we both

1260
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: realized that our trajectories were very different. And I think

1261
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: that's what I like, that's where you blow me away.

1262
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: You can sit in the shit, you can feel shit

1263
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: and still hold love for somebody that you know the

1264
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: dynamic is going to change. And I mean it makes

1265
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: me bring up one of your heroes, which is Gwyneth Oh,

1266
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: and you know that conscious uncoupling kind of style. You

1267
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: can absolutely hold space to someone. I'm sure like you're

1268
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: always gonna be like fuck, I love lou But it's

1269
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: also like you love yourself enough to go hang on

1270
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: self preservation, you know. I just think it's a challenging one.

1271
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: I work on it with a lot of my clients.

1272
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: It's that whole you know, fit your mus before you

1273
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: fit others. It's if you can't live comfortably in your

1274
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: own space and give back to you, then you're not

1275
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: You're not serving anyone else. You're incredible, Like actually, like

1276
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: I know, I'm having a massive gash over you right now,

1277
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: feeling as mutual. The last thing I want to say

1278
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Speaker 1: is is it true that you studied musical theater and dance.

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Speaker 1: You've been down a Google rabbit, my friend.

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Speaker 2: There's no business like show business.

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Speaker 1: I did study musical theater, drama dances. Yeah, College of

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Speaker 1: the Arts and Deacon for a couple of years, and

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Speaker 1: then I so perform ons is my background. I loved it.

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Speaker 1: I studied dance for fifteen years, and I think you

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01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: know because some people are like, oh, snowboarding to polate

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: TV seems strange, like simple life but healthy style. Can

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Speaker 1: you like you do the cooking, I'll do the movement.

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Speaker 1: We'll meet in the middle, we'll meditate and work through.

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Speaker 1: We'll just work through our shit together so good. We

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Speaker 1: would be so entertaining. I can't thank you enough, like

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Speaker 1: I can't today has been. I was so nervous coming

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Speaker 1: into this. You're silly, You're ridiculous, not says nervous. I'm

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Speaker 1: so honored to be on your podcast, but I'm I'm

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01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: blown away that like shit hit the fan for you

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: at twenty four years old, like your dream was pretty

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Speaker 1: much shattered let's call the spaders. But sure you've come

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Speaker 1: around you and you've constantly I'm so grateful that you

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Speaker 1: shared about your relationship stuff because people think, oh, I'll

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Speaker 1: get through that hurdle and then my life's going to

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Speaker 1: be perfect forever. It's like, not always hurdles.

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Speaker 2: There's always hurdles.

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Speaker 1: And I bet we're even just opening the next spa.

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01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure you've had to sit in like uncomfortable

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01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: meetings where people have got dollar signs on your head,

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, like.

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Speaker 2: It's hard, it's so challenging.

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01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, constantly being challenged, I've realized.

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Speaker 2: But clearly I was put on this planet to do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And like I said, I'm very addicted

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Speaker 1: to the I'm aware of it. The busy and the

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Speaker 1: doing and the and the giving. I love it. I

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Speaker 1: really really really enjoy it. So what's your what's your

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Speaker 1: one takeaway for someone listening going Okay, obviously can't be

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Speaker 1: an Olympic snowboard but no, and I know, sorry, and

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to refer to that so much. You're

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Speaker 1: not that's I force that I love. I don't even

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01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 1: like talking about it. But I'm so far removed from

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Speaker 1: that person that I used to. I'm so not an

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Speaker 1: athlete these days, you know, I'm so it's very much

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Speaker 1: about you know, and you and I have spoken about

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Speaker 1: this before. Like my favorite thing is is you know

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Speaker 1: the one percent? Is I always talk about the one percenters?

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Speaker 1: What one percent are you giving back to yourself daily,

1324
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: like either on the daily, monthly, weekly, on the hour,

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Speaker 1: what is it? Because you know, they're the things that

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: add up, and they're the things that count, and they're

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Speaker 1: not the things that should be overlooked. And it's the

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Speaker 1: things that we do consistently that make a difference in

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Speaker 1: our lives.

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Speaker 2: So I think without that that that can.

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Speaker 1: You share for of your one percent? Sure, Like, so

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Speaker 1: for me, a bit of routine is I can't manage

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Speaker 1: without it, you know, my one percentage of my non

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Speaker 1: negotiables are kind of the same thing, Like I talk

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Speaker 1: about them a lot in my speech, like when I

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Speaker 1: do speaking work or like coaching work. Is like, what

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Speaker 1: are your non negotiables? Because that will set everything else

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Speaker 1: up for you. So for me, for example, like a

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Speaker 1: non negotiable is my pilates, you know, my own practice

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Speaker 1: that I have to give back to myself. I have

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Speaker 1: to breath work is a big non negotiable for.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, like controlling control.

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01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: Breath know, we're for stress, for anxiety, for your nervous system,

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: for just unpacking. You know, everything definite non negotiable for

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01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: me and for a lot of my clients. Veno love

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: a veno. An expensive glass of pino veno is a

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01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: non negotiable. And so people ask me what you know,

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Speaker 1: I think people just think I'd drink green juice and

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01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: do pilates all day. You know, I work sixty hour weeks.

1350
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm lucky if I can get two hours of platies

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Speaker 1: in for myself a week. If if I'm lucky. So

1352
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: I call you the Aussie goop. Like and as I'm

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: sitting here, we're sitting in Stuff's beautiful apartment, I can

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01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: see Whinn's book behind your book, oh little sweetie as well.

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01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: Look I've got the twenty twenty cookbook. I'm obsessed with

1356
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: that cauliflower pizza. You are? Do you think that years? Yeah? Yeah,

1357
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: so you know not. I mean everyone has to work

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01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: out what that looks like to them. But I think

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Speaker 1: everyone should have three to five non negotiables that you know,

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Speaker 1: and boundaries. For me, so the power of like saying

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: no thank you big for me, Like that's like I

1362
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: just have to practice it and it does not come naturally,

1363
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: so you know, like little bits, little bits, little bits,

1364
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: little bits all the time, you just get better at it,

1365
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: like anything, It's like a skill you can hone it.

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Speaker 1: Positive positive psychology and mindset is like a non non

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Speaker 1: negotiable for me. I struggle with what are we talking about? Meditation?

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Speaker 1: Really struggle with it. But but affirmations and like positive

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Speaker 1: psychology like that kind of thing totally reps me up.

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Speaker 1: So I also notice you always will like take yourself

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Speaker 1: away for a few days, Like you'll go up to

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Speaker 1: the Sorrento and you're kind of like, I know you've

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Speaker 1: got how to pop up there over the summer, but

1374
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: you'll always kind of regrouping. Yeah. Yeah, and just like yeah,

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01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: you love your si E bowls and just like you

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Speaker 1: get to the beach, like I've seen you're quite.

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Speaker 2: Breaking on the mountain. LL take me to the water

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Speaker 2: and I can reset.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're quite good at that. You've not

1380
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Speaker 1: that switch. Yeah, And I was I you know, I

1381
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Speaker 1: was in a professional sport most of my professional career.

1382
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Speaker 1: I was married to my coach for a long time.

1383
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: You know, you have to have a good on and

1384
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: off switch. So it's like anyone I talked about work

1385
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: life balance, like you have to have a really good

1386
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: on and off switch and you need to know when

1387
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Speaker 1: to hit it. And I want to ask if that's

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Speaker 1: something you learned from me. I read a quote where

1389
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Speaker 1: you were like, he teaches me the handbrake.

1390
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Speaker 2: Oh he was my handbak. Yeah, I openly said that.

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have learnt to be a lot better at

1392
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: it myself these days. But you know, he absolutely was

1393
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: the in to my yang for a long time because

1394
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: I am so yang. But how cool that you've now

1395
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: learned that's I'm here and now? But how come you

1396
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: from one yang to another? Ironically, you teach in on

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01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: a Wednesday, and that's what I come to do. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's the hardest last as a yoga teacher to teach

1399
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Speaker 1: because I have the age as I would feel so

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Speaker 1: in Yin yoga, you don't speak much. You get people

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01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: into the pose, they hold it for anywhere between three

1402
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: and seven minutes, and then you shut up and let

1403
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: them chill and listen. Lucky. I used to be DJs.

1404
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Speaker 1: I love music, yes, and that's why. But that's why

1405
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: I struggled to ages with you, because you I'm used

1406
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: to filling space, but now because I am comfortable with

1407
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: like just holding space. That's one of my favorite obviously

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01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: going to a therapist so much. You are really good

1409
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: at holding it for others though. I love it now. Fuck,

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: I love you like I really am so glad you

1411
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: came on here. The feeling is so mutual and I

1412
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: am you know, I just I just hope that you

1413
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: are so proud of yourself because I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 2: So I really hope you take a moment every now nice.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and go shit. I've done so well and

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01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: I cannot. I feel so lucky that we've met at

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: these phases in our lives. I've been in and out

1418
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: of each other's life for a long time in SIDS

1419
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: when I first met, so I wasn't every Melbourne long

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Speaker 1: enough to kind of no, it's nice to be able

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01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: to share, but keep like, keep following this girl. She's

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: incredible and I think that Steph is one of this

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Speaker 1: health world.

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Speaker 2: She is the real McCoy.

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01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: So please please just find out more about Steph because

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan and I'm your number one fan.

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Speaker 2: And thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thanks lols.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, really really enjoyed that big love beauty,