WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Hall Passes & Pretending Cheating Never Happened 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:12.680 This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land. Hi guys, and 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.920 welcome back to another episode of Life on Cut. I'm Laura, I'm. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.520 Brittany, and you are pretty in pink today. Britt Oh, 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:18.960 thank you? 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:20.840 I am. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:21.919 I love it. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:23.960 How you pretend like we've not spoken about this? 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:25.240 Thank you? 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.440 Why I am head to toe in a pink knit? 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.920 You're dressed in something that I would wear, which is 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.040 why when I saw you, I was like, WHOA weird 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:34.000 for you but cool for me. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:35.360 I'll have that when you get over it. 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.080 It's not necessarily it's not necessarily weird for me, but 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.360 I am trying to be more vibrant. So I am 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.760 literally head to toe in like a very bright pink knit, 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:50.520 long pants, high neck whatever. It's a nit stye great. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:52.560 Ben said to me, wow, babe. I was like, do 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.000 you like my out? He goes, yeah, Wow, you look 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.040 like Stiffler's mom. And I was like, what's I got 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:57.560 it going on? 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.960 Yeah, that's Stacy's mom, Stiffles's mom. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.280 God, And I was like Stiffler's mom as in from 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.720 American Pie? Can I confirm? And he was like, yes, 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:09.280 she was hot? 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:09.880 That's fine? 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.199 Was that Jennifer COOLi Yes, it was White Lotus. Yes, 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.040 it was absolutely Jennifer COOLi. He's like, well, not obviously, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.440 He's like doubling down. He's like, obviously, like your face 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:19.800 doesn't look like her. But and I was like, just 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:21.959 stop it. I was like, I was vibing this and 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:23.600 I wasn't going for Stiffleer's mom. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:25.720 But it doesn't matter if you're going for it. She 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.240 would wear that. But you look good at it. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.440 Hey, speaking of white Lotus, now. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.319 Is that all we do? Now we're a White Lotus podcast? 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:32.399 No? 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.280 I want to tell you something because I am really 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.440 into white Lotus like the rest of the world. But 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:41.000 I found this so interesting. So my algorithm now on 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.520 Instagram has started to feed me white Loadus stuff. I 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.600 guess because we've been looking up a lot of stuff 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.120 for things to discuss on the podcast. But I want 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.360 to tell you what I discovered. So, do you know 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:57.720 in White Lotus, the beautiful, quiet, young Ti girl that 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.600 is falling in love with the other Thai worker that 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.080 works in the heart the security guard. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.400 I think I'm about to say, yeah. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.760 So she's great, but she's not, Like do you really 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.079 overly notice her? Is she a main character? All this stuff. No, Well, 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.800 it turns out not only is she like one of 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.799 the most famous people to ever have Grace's screens of 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.880 White Loader, she's one of the most famous people in 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.480 the world. She's like a K pop star, isn't she 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.240 in the world? She's got one hundred and six million 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.760 Instagram followers. Her name is Lala Lisa Mannible Manobile. I 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.399 don't know if I've pronounced in her last name, mononymously 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:37.800 known as just Lisa, and she is like uber uber famous. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.120 They almost couldn't cast her because the security that she 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.280 needs personally to even go and film on set was astronomical, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:44.720 and I. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.240 Was so fascinated by that. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.600 It also just shows that we live in one paradigm 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.600 of the world, you know, like our Western pop culture 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.520 version of what life is like. That is just one 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.640 version of what exists, and there are so many other 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.880 celebrities and celebrity drama and gossip and everything else that's 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.280 happening in a whole other side of the world that 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:06.120 we're not tapped into. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.360 I even think it's like more on a micro level 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.360 than that, Like when you go to awards and that 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:11.880 kind of thing, and you can be sitting next to 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.480 your best friend, and you're like, like, fame is so subjective, 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.359 you know, like you can look at someone and be like, oh, 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.840 my god, that's that person. And this happened for me 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.359 when I went to the TikTok Awards and my friend 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.320 Chantel was like, Oh, that's that creator or that's that person. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.600 I was like, I've never seen or heard of them, 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.760 but I was really excited that doctor Carl was there. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.359 Kisha and I were Kish and I on the weekend 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.880 were literally at dinner with at the f one and 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:35.760 these two, like I guess there were influences, but we 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.440 didn't really know. They seemed really nice, but they have 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.920 like ten million followers each. At the end of the night, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.520 we were like, oh, we just I'm just not in that world. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.800 We don't know who you are. But what is even 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.800 more interesting is Lisa this actress. You know what the 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.040 Oscars like two weeks ago, where Margaret Qualley did that 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.240 amazing dance to James Bond. Did you guys see that? 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.000 Oh you're missing out? It was incredible. She'd a whole 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:01.240 incredible performance. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:02.440 But Lisa this. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.720 Actress was like the main singer in that dance at 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.520 the Oscars two weeks ago, and I think there's a 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.880 lot of people that are connecting the dots now, like 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.720 myself being like, oh my god, that's wild. But yeah, 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.720 uber famous in the K pop world, So. 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.920 There you go. That's what really niche thank you. I 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:17.599 enjoyed it. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.960 It's actually not. It's like trending online at the moment. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.400 And if I am gobsmacked by that, I think a 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:22.960 lot of other people. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.520 I'm trying to find out how I knew that. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.320 I think I heard it only last week, and I'm 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.240 wondering if it's the same way that you found out. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:29.880 I think it might have been great to the radio 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.040 producer told. 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.320 Me, no, I saw it online. I'm just getting fed 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:34.000 this stuff now. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.440 I just want to say one thing before we get 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.159 into answering your questions. I would like to say thank 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:43.040 you to every single person who validated my conversation from 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.320 last week about exhaust fans and how much they triggered 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.440 me and how much distress they caused me, because I mean, 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:50.320 I'm not surprised. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:51.720 I knew that there was going. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.840 To be allies out there who also feel the same, 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.960 who feel personally victimized by exhaust fans, but I wasn't 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.360 expecting it to be quite as much. And every single 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.360 day I get s reels by people who have made 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.280 funny videos about how exhaust fans are triggering, and I'm 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.960 here for it. So thank you, thank you, thank you, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.880 thank you, thank you for validating Laura, because Brittany didn't agree, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.000 and I just want to. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.080 Say, no, I did agree, but my I don't have 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.599 an exhaust fan related I was like, do I like 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.719 the sound? No, but it doesn't grind my gears enough 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.320 to the fact that I would have to like leave 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:20.919 the room. 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.479 Yeah, I can't even think about it. It causes mistress. 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.360 I also hate it equally as much as you. I 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.800 so so feel this. But we did get one message 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.920 that was saying, guys, it's not an exhaust fan. This 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:30.800 is a range hood. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:32.480 Yeah, what's the difference? 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:34.240 You know what I mean? 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:35.880 Isn't that an exhaust fan? 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.920 It is. It's just called arrange wood. They've been they're 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:38.880 splitting straws there. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:40.080 I think it's splitting hairs. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:43.480 Can't you split a straw? 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.680 Why would you? I'm pretty sure you slit straw. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.720 I'm googling let's do our vibes for the week. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:52.200 I have a podcast. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.480 I've started listening to, which I actually am so fascinated by. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.920 It is a little bit dark, so I do I 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.000 mean it actually, I take that back. Like all my podcast, 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:01.400 it's not a little bit dark. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.120 It's very dark. But it's called Lucky Boy. Have either 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:04.640 of you seen it. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:05.760 I've listened to the whole thing. 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:06.960 It's fascinating. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.960 So I'm only up to episode three at the moment, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.080 but it follows a man whose story he was deeply 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.560 affected by child sexual assault from his teacher. So he 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.800 was fourteen years old and he got into a relationship 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.520 with his then twenty seven year old teacher, and it's 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.760 this very fascinating discussion around who is allowed to be 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.560 a victim and who is a perpetrator. The teacher in 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.720 question never faced any repercussions for what she did, and 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.880 there's so many discussions around whether he was the only child, 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.800 whether there were more boys that she took advantage of, 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:44.520 And it really shows how the system deeply fails boys 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.040 because it is this expectation that because they're boys, that 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:52.279 they can't possibly be victims of female perpetrators. I mean, 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.599 as much as it is incredibly dark, like I'm enjoying 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.520 the storytelling of it and the way that the podcast 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:57.400 has been constructed. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:58.840 What was your thoughts of it? 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:00.680 Well, the only thing I'll say is, because I've finished 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.080 it and you haven't yet, is that the only thing 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:03.960 that you said was incorrect because you haven't got there yet. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.080 Is she is held accountable. But it takes far longer 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:08.799 and it's more of a roundabout way. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.760 Legally though was there prison time or anything, Because. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.920 I won't give it away, but there are repercussions, not 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:15.920 to the level that there should be one hundred percent 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.240 will say that. I think it was also a bit 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.720 of a product of the time because this man now 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.520 is in his maybe his forties, and it's nearly forty yer. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.000 It's taken him a long time to realize what happened 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.280 to him was in fact assault, whereas at the time 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.760 it's called lucky boy because everyone was like, Wow, you're 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.040 so lucky, You're banging the teacher kind of thing. But 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.000 it took him a long time. And then when he 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.120 starts to realize that maybe there were other people and 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.760 it really affected who he was, he decides to go 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.640 and advocate for himself. But it was like, oh, let's 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.880 just get rid of this teacher and sweep it under 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.440 the carpet, but it's fascinating. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.040 So she went on to work at so many other schools. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.280 I think it was like seventeen schools. It establishes that 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:56.040 she moves throughout her career, and it's insinuated at the 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.120 point that I am at that she continued this molestation 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.760 throughout her career, and there was so many other boys 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.520 who are affected by this. I also think it's very 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.560 interesting because Gareth is now a forty year old man, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.440 but he has dealt with mental health struggles throughout his 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.200 entire life, and he has dealt with trying to make 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:13.960 sense of what happened to him when he was a 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.280 really little kid, and he asked the questions like would 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.200 I be this person had that not happened to me? 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.760 And he never has has received that sort of validation. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:27.000 It is definitely fascinating, very dark, but I really think 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.440 it's an important listen because it rewires exactly that that 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.280 question about who is a victim and who is a perpetrator, 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.400 and why do we see boys and young girls who 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.920 are the same age differently, and why do we see 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.200 female and male perpetrators differently? So it's called lucky Boy 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.599 it's being created by Tortoise Media and it is a 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:46.680 four part podcast. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:47.520 It's fantastic. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.199 Yeah, can definitely recommend that. My recommendation this week is 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.400 something that is I mean everyone is talking about it online. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.199 It is one of the best TV shows that has 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.840 come out of Britain or anywhere in a decade. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:01.800 It is so good. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.400 It's called Adolescence. It's a four part series. The reason 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.720 it has been so highly spoken about is not only 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.400 the themes it explores, but the brilliance in the acting, 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.199 the writing, the plot, the meaning and the way it 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.600 was filmed. So each episode is shot in one shot, 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.640 one continuous shot, and it's quite incredible to go on 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.959 the journey. So when they start to the end, so 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.960 an hour worth of shooting, which is probably like half 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.800 a day really, it is one shot on every single character. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.160 The people that needed to work on it, so like 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.360 other assistant producers, cameraman are dressed up so that when 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.400 the cameras go past them it looks like they're also 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.559 in the scene even though they're doing their job. And 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.679 it centers around this thirteen year old British boy who 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.960 murders a female classmate. It's co written and he also 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.760 acts in it and produces it. By a man called 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.000 Stephen Graham and his purpose of it. He was sitting 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.120 at home one day and he opened up the newspaper 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.720 and he saw this young British teenage boy had murdered 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.200 a girl. He'd stabbed her. Turned on the TV another 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.680 part of the country, a young teenage boy had stabbed 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.839 and murdered a girl. This had happened multiple times, and 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.839 there's a real problem in Britain at the moment with 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.679 male violence, Like we know it's everywhere, but seventeen percent 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.920 of male violence last year in Britain had happened between 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.880 ten and seventeen year olds. And he is decided, He's like, 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.160 oh my god, I am a father. I am going 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.800 to highlight the impact that people like Andrew Tate, that 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.320 things like social media and the external pressures and online 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.559 pressures are having on our teenagers. And it shows it 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.800 in every aspect. It shows it from the parents and 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.000 a really stable family home. So it's trying to intentionally 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.160 highlight that a lot of problems don't necessarily come from 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.040 unstable family homes, like they have a really loving mother 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.760 and father. It goes and highlights the school system, the 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.640 issues that are happening there, and in this particular show, 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.400 a lot of the issues have come and stemmed from 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:58.319 online social media exposure. It is brilliant and there. It 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.480 is one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Is not one 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.439 person that has written anything bad about it. It is 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.880 going to be the most award winning show of the year. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.160 I cannot recommend enough. The only thing I'll say is 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.760 you get a bit motion sickness when you're watching it 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.920 because the cameras continue a shot, they are running, they 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.680 are flying, following people. It's truly incredible in every single aspect. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.520 I haven't felt this strongly about something in a really 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:19.880 long time. 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:20.720 Where's it available. 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:24.079 It's Netflix. It's for four episodes. It would probably be 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:25.880 number one at the moment if you had a look. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:27.959 So it's a pretty easy watch in terms of its 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.600 bite size, quick four episodes. I watched it in one 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.199 night because I just became obsessed with it. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.000 My vibe for this week is one of the most 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.320 beautiful interviews I have listened to. I would say maybe ever, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.559 it's something that I know I'm going to think about 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.720 in the weeks to months to maybe even years to come, 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.680 and it was on Inherited Podcasts, which is by Shameless Media, 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.559 and it's the interview with Michelle Andrews. So Michelle being 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.120 one of the co founders of Shameless, she is also 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.800 a friend of all of ours, and it was such 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:01.040 a moving conversation. So it's Ruby who interviewed her, and 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.720 I know that you've been uninherited as well. In this episode, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.360 Michelle spoke so beautifully about this friendship that she had 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.400 with Zara, and to be honest at actually, there were 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.080 a lot of parallels that I could draw between your 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.400 friendship and my friendship with the two of you, because 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.640 it's quite a unique dynamic where you. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.559 You know, you guys started a business together. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.679 Obviously Michelle and Zara did as well, and they have 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:28.360 this really deep friendship where they are so supportive of 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.320 each other, plus being business partners, and so for us 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.240 it was like plus working together. And I loved the 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.520 way that she spoke about her friendship with Zara and 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.720 just how pure and how supportive of each other they are, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.480 and just how unique it is to find a friendship 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.480 that is that true. She also spoke about her and 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.679 Mitchard's that's her husband, are their fertility challenges and kind 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.320 of their road to pregnancy, and that obviously was something 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.480 that she spoke about a lot in their Glass podcast. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.559 But then the last part of the conversation, and the 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.320 part that I feel like I could even hear up 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.319 thinking about it, was her speaking about her mumd being 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.560 diagnosed with incurable brain cancer. And there was a particularly 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.400 you know, fascinating part to this story where she was 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.440 diagnosed with the type of cancer that Belle Gibson claimed 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.160 to have had, and it was kind of all at 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.480 the same time that apple side of Vinegar was thrust 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.240 into the spotlight, and her mom just sounds like the 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.679 most incredible person. She sounds like this person who has 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.760 had such a fulfilled life, and Michelle shares a lot 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.560 of what her mom has taught her in this episode. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.440 And that's why I think I'm gonna kind of think 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.679 about it. I feel so emotional thinking about it. Was 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.200 just such a beautiful conversation, the way that Michelle speaks 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.680 about her mom and the impact that her mum has had, 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.280 especially at a time where you know, she's pregnant and 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.960 it just seems as though these very cruel situation has 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.120 happened at also one of the most beautiful times in 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.400 her life and how that's going to kind of impact her. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.360 Yeah, I feel silly for getting emotional. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:53.280 It was, Michelle. 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:54.559 I hope that you hear this. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.280 It was one of the most beautiful conversations I have 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:58.079 ever listened to. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.520 I agree, and I think I'm doing a lot of 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.400 self reflection even just listening to those conversations. And something 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.920 that she said the other day, she said she asked 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.599 her mum to put a bucket list, like, write a 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.000 bucket list down. Now, I'm gonna get emotion, you know, 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.560 tell me what you want to do in this life 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.840 and I'll make it happen. And the whole bucket list 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.360 was the most mundane. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:19.080 Everyday things. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:20.240 I just want to go to the park with the 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.040 dogs and my grandkids, things that she can do every day. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.880 And then Michelle was like, Wow, you are the definition 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.400 of success because your bucket list is already the life 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.360 you live. Yeah, And I was like, that's what that's 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.760 what people strive for. Yeah, So I agree. Beautiful conversation 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.040 and if Michelle does listen to this, You've got all 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:39.760 of our love here. 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:40.240 Yeah. 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:44.080 Yeah. So that's inherited podcast. The episode most recent one 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:45.680 with Michelle Andrews. 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.040 Question number one. I'm venturing back into dating as a 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.760 single girl in her early thirties after a very toxic 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.080 relationship ending a few months ago. I also found out 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.000 last year that I am unable to have my own 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.760 children due to some very bad healthy sh shoes. This 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.800 was devastating, as I always saw myself being a mum 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.080 one day. My question is at what stage do I 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.480 disclose this to potential partners A couple of dates in 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.520 it just feels really heavy, and most people I meet 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.160 seem to want kids, so I'm mindful of wasting their time, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.040 but I'm unsure how to approach this. 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.480 This is so I mean, we talked about this just beforehand, 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.840 and this is such a hard one to answer because 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.080 I understand on one hand, like, firstly, I'm so sorry 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.640 that you're going through this, Like it's an incredibly hard 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.920 thing that you're having to process for yourself and. 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.640 That you never expect when you grow up. You never 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:35.760 think that that's going to be you. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.640 Yeah, But then also being in this state where you're like, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.160 am I stopping someone from having something that they want 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.720 in their life? And then when do I need to 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.480 tell them about my health? Or medical or whatever it 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.880 is issues that I'm having. I don't think it's a 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.960 couple of dates in I don't think that you owe 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.320 it to someone straight away that you need to tell 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:57.960 them that you're not able to have kids. And I 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.680 say this because yes, you may not be able to 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.560 carry children, but it doesn't mean that you don't want 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.400 to have children, and it doesn't mean that you don't 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.840 want to have kids. It would be a different conversation 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.600 if you'd said, I found out that I'm not able 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.480 to carry children and I don't want to have them 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.960 at all because of that reason. Then I think it's 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.960 okay to speak about it to people and find someone 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.720 who's aligned in not wanting to have children. It just 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.760 means your journey towards becoming a mother is going to 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.320 be harder and more intentional than what other people's might 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.280 have to be. So I would say it's definitely a 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.640 conversation that needs to be had, but I don't think 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.479 you need to have it until you're invested in that relationship, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.600 Like until you're sure that there's something worth putting your time, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.880 your energy, and your focus into and they've shown you 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.720 that they're also equally as interested in you, and yes, 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.160 maybe they might want children, but they also want you 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.640 and to be with you and to have, you know, 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.080 some sort of relationship with you. Then I think I 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.720 would be approaching it, but I don't think I would 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.000 be offering it up as a conversation on the third day. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.000 I feel a little bit differently, Laura. I think that 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.119 you don't. I wouldn't be waiting until I'm invested and 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.840 they're invested. I don't think it's a conversation that you 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:12.000 have to voluntarily offer that information up before it's a conversation. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.920 But if it does come up, which it often does 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.080 early in dating, if it does come up and there 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:18.600 is a question that is posed to you, Hey, how 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:19.360 do you feel about kids? 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:20.080 Do you want kids? 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.399 I think that that is when the conversation does have 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.239