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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised you haven't said anything about the new piece

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<v Speaker 1>of equipment behind me.

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<v Speaker 2>The green bin. Have another look, you're an electric mower.

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<v Speaker 2>I even see it. Yeah, let me stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's eighteen vaults of pure power right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>You like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. You're so progressive. I've noticed as well that

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<v Speaker 2>the grass is not mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to episode two two Doting Dads. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Matty Jay. I'm ass we've come back for round two.

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<v Speaker 2>We're umming and ring about it, and then we knew

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<v Speaker 2>will come back. In the last episode you said, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if there by the end of the episode

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<v Speaker 2>you'd committed as doing this every week. Just like that,

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<v Speaker 2>we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Have like a few week plan in place. There's always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be around two. But you know, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to just have an air of mystery. You've got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep people wanting more. And if we said, hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be eight episodes, people be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then we'd count down the eight episodes. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I've got like six more to do after

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<v Speaker 2>this one.

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<v Speaker 1>It is nice to see, though, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>wives I'm assuming, Oh, girlfriends who are tagging their partners

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<v Speaker 1>or tagging the husband's saying you might like this one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're doing that to be like, you might

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<v Speaker 2>get some advice on how to parent. No, you will not,

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<v Speaker 2>you will not. You might find a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>relatability in it and be like, oh fuck, I got

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<v Speaker 2>shot on this week too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think if there is a dad right now listening, going,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't read the books, I don't know what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not invested any energy whatsoever into like learning how

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<v Speaker 1>to be your dad, and they've come here.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck, God help you, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>God help you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing like the reality just set in that there's

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<v Speaker 2>no actual advice in this conversation. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>where my kids are right now. They've been safely looked

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<v Speaker 2>after by a professional. That's a lie where they get fed,

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<v Speaker 2>probably a love I get the thing on the story

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<v Speaker 2>app what they've eaten, and it's like, okay, so they

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<v Speaker 2>have chicken and rice for lunch ate all. First of all, bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the biggest load of shit ever. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>way my kid's eating a full meal. I suppose they're

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<v Speaker 2>starving them up to that point. At my house, they

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<v Speaker 2>know with the snacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what they always say, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>questioned it. I've come in and I'm like, hey, I've

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<v Speaker 1>just Marley's a really bad eater. Did she actually eat

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<v Speaker 1>all her food?

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<v Speaker 2>And they go, oh yeah, They're like, what did the

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<v Speaker 2>app say?

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<v Speaker 1>Ate at all? And then they always say when they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the environment where all the kids are eating, they

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<v Speaker 1>like to follow each other, and we find that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are a lot more engaged in like the

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<v Speaker 1>food as opposed to when they're at home by themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching TV in front of a tvat that.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes a lot of sense, it does, but I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>calling bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bullshit. There's no way my kids eating chicken and

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<v Speaker 2>rice and all his vegetables just because the other kids

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<v Speaker 2>are doing it. And the good thing about it is,

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<v Speaker 2>though we look at it and go, okay, ate all

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, I had a good nutritious meal today. What's

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<v Speaker 2>for dinner? Toast? If we get like, oh, like they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't they ate some of or they grazed at it

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, which is really the case, Like I got

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<v Speaker 2>to cook him something tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>We started off with like jam on toast.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually got here and there was a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>jam toast on the back. I considered eating it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to offer it to how desperate I

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<v Speaker 2>am for leftovers.

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<v Speaker 1>But now she's just gone like, that's Lola's Lola's jam

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<v Speaker 1>on toast. Marley's just like a thick layer of butter

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<v Speaker 1>on the toast, nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>M buttery goodness. Yeah, it's not bad. She's really lining

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<v Speaker 2>those arteries. Are you on full butter or margarine?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the full butter.

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<v Speaker 2>We're on the nutles. Okay. Look, there's a reason why

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<v Speaker 2>when Oscar was breastfeeding, April couldn't eat Deiry because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>through the breast milk, yes, he would be very uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had to get rid of all the dairy

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<v Speaker 2>in the house and just never went back on that

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<v Speaker 2>one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy, lactose and tolerate.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's fine. Now, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You've just stayed on the nutlegs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. We just never went back. We

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<v Speaker 2>have milk, regular milk in the house. No one really

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<v Speaker 2>drinks except for Macy like Oscoar have a bit here

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<v Speaker 2>on the air. But like with the nutlegs, we just

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<v Speaker 2>never went back. I don't know. It was kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're so loyal. They don't sponsor the show. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>will yet, just straight nutlegs next to fake a buttery goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>but you look at nutritional value on it and it's

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<v Speaker 2>no better than butter.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it have like a health star rating?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't be high, it must be can't be high one?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I reckon it's probably I'll give benefit of

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<v Speaker 2>the doubt, give it two and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what surprised me about honey star rating?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think it is?

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<v Speaker 2>It's low? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sugar, but it's natural

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<v Speaker 2>sugar allegedly, like how many bees are fucking together? How

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<v Speaker 2>they do it? They fucking get honey or not? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. They polling out, they rub their hands together

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<v Speaker 2>and they get honey.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think honey is the byproduct of bees having sex.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was like beechis. So they call the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with your kid the birds and the bees. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's got to be some sort of truth behind what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Look, sex is pretty sweet anyways, though we

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<v Speaker 2>went real off on honey there, but yeah, Look, when

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<v Speaker 2>I go for a run, I squirt a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>honey in my mouth and go for a run. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like giving me. Yeah, just like a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of energy. Kick a bit of bee semen,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're good to get a bee seeming I can

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<v Speaker 2>run all day.

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<v Speaker 1>Question for you, Ashton, Question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>U's my full name? Okay, mum, this is getting serious.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times do you think I was at the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital the emergency room over the weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>Once is more than a half. You're there more than once.

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<v Speaker 2>More than once I noticed that your kids are here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no sign of children. What happened? I was there

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<v Speaker 2>twice twice in one weekend, in a forty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Hour two separate incidents, two separate hospitals, the same hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>two separate kids. The weekend just gone. Was probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the hardest.

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<v Speaker 2>That we've had just as a parent in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just you know, sometimes you're winning, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you're losing. You know, sometimes you're swimming up the stream.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's downstream.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mainly upstream though.

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<v Speaker 1>This was all upstream into the rapids. So Friday, Friday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>my did a WII and as she was doing a

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<v Speaker 1>wee she was like, oh, to Laura's like, it really stings.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, that's not good. And Laura said,

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<v Speaker 1>could be a uti and I was like uti, like

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<v Speaker 1>where's she been? Four? And sometimes I don't know. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes kids just when they do something, they're like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>that really hurt or like oh, my stomach aches, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a new feeling to them because they don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely going to drop her at daycare and just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like wait to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two hours later, dayk calls me up and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Marley's got a really big fee, but it's now like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to now pick her up because it's meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be thirty seven, right, so anything over that, you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>but then thirty nine and that's a decent jump.

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<v Speaker 1>So they said we'll give some panodole. But then at

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<v Speaker 1>this point you have to come collect, which is devastating

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<v Speaker 1>because if anyone who doesn't have kids is listening, you

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<v Speaker 1>still pay the full fee, paying the full whack for

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<v Speaker 1>a day of daycare, even though she's been there for

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<v Speaker 1>two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>You're paying someone else and you've got to do the

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<v Speaker 2>parenting from here on out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's heartbreaking, especially when you're looking at like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the day child free. I plan to do so

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<v Speaker 1>much work.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter that they're sick and there in pain

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. Male he's like, help, and I'm like, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a uti.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, picked her up, go home, gave her some damadole?

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<v Speaker 1>Worked well? Wake up? Some what some damadol?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you'd be on the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the good stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it just panadole?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that better? Is dambodol? Am? I?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know? Is that like just it just sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like something you from the sheep? They were there, like

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<v Speaker 2>do you want the generic brand? You're like, give us that.

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<v Speaker 1>I though damadol was like the top or maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I could be so who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I get my wife on the blow. She wouldn't know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the exact milliage? What's her weight?

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<v Speaker 1>What does she wait, she's taken five mil?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's four.

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<v Speaker 1>I I know that much. Now that much. But the

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<v Speaker 1>issue is you can only give it to them four

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<v Speaker 1>times in twenty four hours, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the bottle says. We maperiment a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fine, Yeah, yeah, wake up. On Saturday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>temperature was peaking. Still what height did it get to?

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<v Speaker 1>So in the afternoon on Saturday, we're sitting at forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, I know she's sick man. Yeah, okay, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So at this point we're like, we can't give it

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<v Speaker 1>any more, damadol.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your choice of thermometer? Rectal? Don't tell me is rectal?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually? Do you know what we used to give though

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<v Speaker 1>when they were newborns. Instead of giving them the liquid,

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<v Speaker 1>we would give them some positories up the bum and

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<v Speaker 1>hear me out. You know, it's so hard to give

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<v Speaker 1>a newborn Oh it's like this, yeah, and to get

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<v Speaker 1>them to swallow it, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because youve got to, like you do a little

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<v Speaker 2>blowing on the face.

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<v Speaker 1>Just suppository. Suppository is weird obviously because you're like putting

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<v Speaker 1>a pill up the back.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like a special insert? Yeah, I'm learning so

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<v Speaker 2>much today, like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little rapper that you like peel up.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's got like, this is fucking wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Someone said to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how, we said that this is not educational.

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<v Speaker 2>We lied, We fucking lie. We've wrote you in. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna hear us preach about suppositories.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell anyone who listens suppositories until they're like

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<v Speaker 1>one or one and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>But now the moment wise, it's just under the arm. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah ideal. So Anymi is peaking and we're like, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just peaking. I love that big night out. She's

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<v Speaker 2>paking on the cat Fred again on just.

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<v Speaker 1>Go Jeller and you're like, do I go to hospital?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the fucking worst too? They're like, she just want

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<v Speaker 2>to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest question is you don't want to rock up

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<v Speaker 1>and then they look at you and go, fucking really,

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<v Speaker 1>we're here to save the lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Of kids just because you're a useless parent.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't want to have that guilt. But the

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<v Speaker 1>best advice that we got from a nurse was we

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<v Speaker 1>would rather have you come and then just tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that it's nothing, don't worry about it, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>you coming and them saying we wish you were here.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, one hundred percent. Like I think if anyone's

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<v Speaker 2>listening and it's like the option to take your kid

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<v Speaker 2>to a hospital or not, yeah take it, just go,

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<v Speaker 2>just go. If you're unsure. Then the answer is yes,

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<v Speaker 2>first hold me to that, though, just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 2>don't hold me to that.

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<v Speaker 1>But because she was at forty, which is very hard,

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<v Speaker 1>we thought, hey, we'll give it one more little dose

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<v Speaker 1>of damadol. And then as we're driving to the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>Marley's like, dude, do like, hey, dad, put on some

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<v Speaker 1>of like that Disney song and just like, where are

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<v Speaker 1>we off to you guys? And she's kind of turned

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<v Speaker 1>a corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking dare she My adult's kicking in.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm not going to ignore the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she's had a temperature for the last yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. Laura and I are like who has

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<v Speaker 1>to go in? Who's going to drive home with Lola?

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<v Speaker 1>And who's going to take Marley? And Laura drew the

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<v Speaker 1>short straw, so she's gone into hospital and Marley's just

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<v Speaker 1>like running on the chairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Like having a good old.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, and Laura's like, she is so unwell, like she's

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<v Speaker 1>been so sick. And they look behind Laura and Marley's

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<v Speaker 1>ed just like running around doing cartwheels. In the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>ended up seeing a MUTI give us an antibiotics and

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<v Speaker 1>she's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's the first trip to the hospital. That's number one,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty smooth. How long was she at the hospital for.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good five hours still lot. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>Laura got home at like, fuck, that's a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>nine point thirty maybe nine o'clock. Because it's not life threatening,

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<v Speaker 1>you go wait, you turn the next morning. After spending

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<v Speaker 1>all those Saturday locked indoors, wake up on Sunday morning

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<v Speaker 1>and we thought, it's a beautiful day, go to the park.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll like enjoy the outdoors. I hear this scream come

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<v Speaker 1>from the living room and Marley has these microphones here. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the desk. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>put the mic there or maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Laura put did you play the blame game?

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<v Speaker 1>It was me And Marley has pulled the cord and

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<v Speaker 1>these way like fire.

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<v Speaker 2>I picked it up before heavy. It's a dumbell.

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<v Speaker 1>So she pulled it and pulled it onto herself and

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<v Speaker 1>it's come down and smashed her right on the tip

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<v Speaker 1>of the toe. Run in there and I look at

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<v Speaker 1>her foot and she's taken all the skin off her toes.

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<v Speaker 2>And taking any nails off, not yet, not that nail.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing with the nail, It comes off down

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<v Speaker 2>the track, so it's like it hurts now, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the nail comes off down and it hurts again. It's relentless.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the worst. It's the worst. And I look down

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks mangled. And then if a kid looks

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<v Speaker 1>at the cart nessye blood, they sup freaking out. And

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<v Speaker 1>my initial reaction was like, why did you do that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then at the same time that I'm and then

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<v Speaker 1>she's just in agony.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been so much pain. Get yourself to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's your bag. And then Laura's like, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to go back to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Packed the bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily it was still pretty much had everything in it

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<v Speaker 1>from when.

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<v Speaker 2>We got back from the hospital. Yeah, she's in the

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<v Speaker 2>Wars this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So like we drive there literally they're like, hey, You're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's and I was positive it was going to be broken.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't break it. But also being a Sunday footy's back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the place Laura said it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just heaving broken bone full of kids.

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<v Speaker 1>In like rugby jerseys and dislocated arms and broken legs

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like a war zone in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh bet that sucks. How long were you there for

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<v Speaker 2>all this? Time, Well, Laura, you just sucking sent her again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know hand on Hart. I'm yet to do

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital trip myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's brutal, man, I've only ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Just dropped off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's brew like we've been, not with Macy other

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<v Speaker 2>than when she's born, obviously, but Oscar twice, both fire ambulance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>holy shit, not that the ambulance was required. So the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, yes, So first time, he was about five

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<v Speaker 2>months old. He stopped breathing in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>night and he had like silent reflux. So he's I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at one end of the house over to the other

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<v Speaker 2>end of the house. The scream was very different. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>half cut, like six beers deep watching the footing, and

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<v Speaker 2>we both ran up to the bedroom and like he

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<v Speaker 2>was noticeably choking, and I've whipped the light on, got

0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 2>him out, and it's mentally scarred in my mind of

0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.400
<v Speaker 2>this child, purple eyes bulging out of his head. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think I was gonna tell this story today, but

0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna. And I'm like, holy shit, like and April's

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone, dribble zero and I'm ripping him out

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<v Speaker 2>of his sleep suit and they're like don't hit him

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<v Speaker 2>on the back. I'm like, too fucking late, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>worried that the adrenaline pumping through you, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>knock the shit out of him. The ambulance was literally

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<v Speaker 2>out the front in two minutes. They were going down

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<v Speaker 2>the street and they've come up and he's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like still struggling a little bit to breathe, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was breathing and he was returning to color by the

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<v Speaker 2>time we got him into the ambulance and I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on my lap. You now ambulance lights alike, it's so bright.

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<v Speaker 2>He was completely fine. He was like, this is sick, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is amazing, and to the hospital. I'm up there

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<v Speaker 2>for six hours. So what's happened is he's had some

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<v Speaker 2>reflux in Mila night and it's hurt him. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>got he's gone back down his windpipe and got start.

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<v Speaker 1>So was it pat on the back that kicked him

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<v Speaker 1>into breathing again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, essentially. By the time I got to him and

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<v Speaker 2>got him up and got him, he was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>I think getting him at an upright position was better

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<v Speaker 2>than him laying down anyway. So I had to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital spent like six hours in the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>with him. He was perfectly fine. So that was one time.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, at the time, it was really traumatic. I

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<v Speaker 2>look back on it now and it's like four, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine how many people go through a similar thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but also like fuck just to hug him afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that he's fine like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it was huge. And the second time was

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<v Speaker 2>he had this cough and anyone who's listening to their

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<v Speaker 2>kids had creep. It's a very unique cough. We didn't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't. We've never had that problem before.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you want to give us a little taste

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<v Speaker 1>to what that's a seal?

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<v Speaker 2>It's got a seal in the other room, and like

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<v Speaker 2>it progressively got worse and worse, and then like I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, fuck, it's like eleven o'clock at night, and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I walked in there and he couldn't breathe

0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.080
<v Speaker 2>because what it does it swells the airway. That's why

0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.280
<v Speaker 2>they say, like a steaming hot shower can like open

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<v Speaker 2>up your sinuses, open up your airway. But yeah, he

0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.840
<v Speaker 2>physically was like struggling to breathe in and it was

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<v Speaker 2>freaked out on the phone of the ambulance as you

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<v Speaker 2>would be. They were there in like four or five minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>two ambulances. The whole buildings lit up like you got

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<v Speaker 2>the double, got the double, and look it was scary again.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would they send two just like who's got it

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<v Speaker 1>than one? Or was one? Like? Did one to have more?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't know. I can't real yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think they wanted to get the first one there

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what's going on. And once they got

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<v Speaker 2>there and realized that this is croup, this is what happens,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like you could fucking die, Like it closed

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<v Speaker 2>his airway to a point where he was like like

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, holy shit. So here's the thing, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we get out to the ambulance and he's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>come to a little bit seen all the flashy lights

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<v Speaker 2>and that's amazing. They give him a steroid injection essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they get it too, because you can't take

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<v Speaker 2>medication or anything like, it just doesn't work. You had

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<v Speaker 2>to wait like four hours for him to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to entertain this kid in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the night. I was in the hospital about four am.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the week after he was like just crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>like crazy. And I ran into friends of ours who

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<v Speaker 2>their kids have suffered a group a lot, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>did you get the steroid stuff? I'm like yeah, It's

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<v Speaker 2>like is he crazy? She's just roid raging for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's roid raging through the house. Like I was like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the hell is wrong with his shaving? He's like

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<v Speaker 2>Stewie Griffin when he starts lifting, like yeah, yeah, get

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<v Speaker 2>us a bit of milk. It's pretty much what he

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<v Speaker 2>was like. But he was mental for like two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Get him on the footy field and I get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of there straight. I've got one of those big chin's already.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like he's had it since, but we've been

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<v Speaker 2>able to like manage it because we know what to expect.

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<v Speaker 2>So there would be heaps of parents now listening being like,

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<v Speaker 2>my kid's never had croup ononder, what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, that is like the scariest part of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear these horror stories of like, hey, you know, child

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't too bad, put him down to sleep, and then

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<v Speaker 1>something happened. And so when when Marley had her fever,

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<v Speaker 1>we put her into bed with us because we were

0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.960
<v Speaker 1>just like she's you know, thirty nine. If something happens,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd rather her like be run. Yeah, and I sleep

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<v Speaker 1>pretty heavily. Pin drops.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that like?

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<v Speaker 1>I was there anything? So the kids will have to

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<v Speaker 1>cry for a while before I'm up. But Laura, if

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<v Speaker 1>anything happens, she's up.

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<v Speaker 2>She is very much mum instinct too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well apparently apparently. I wonder if I should google this

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<v Speaker 1>Google after women give birth they release.

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<v Speaker 2>This already thinking that they release a baby. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they do when they give birth.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say a toxin, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, I think you should start.

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<v Speaker 1>They're actually half spider. Yeah, yeah, no, they release a

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<v Speaker 1>chemical which let me, oh god, hang on, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't find it. I can't. I've had a quick google,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is literally I remember watching it on this documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be true that when women give birth they

0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.879
<v Speaker 1>release this chemical, which means they do not enter the

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<v Speaker 1>same level of deep sleep that they will get into

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<v Speaker 1>pre kids.

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<v Speaker 2>For how long?

0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Forever?

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<v Speaker 2>Forever, forever, so they're constantly on alert.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah anyway, but yeah, back to Marley's foot, wasn't broken.

0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even think about that. I just thought about

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 2>the skin coming up. Yeah, I know, nothing broke, bruised, bruised.

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 1>She got it bandaged up. But then the annoying thing

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.280
<v Speaker 1>is for the rest of the day she was like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't because she's quite traumatized and she saw she

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<v Speaker 1>saw how cut it was. She was like, I can't walk,

0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, no, you can. You can walk,

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<v Speaker 1>just like put some weight on it.

0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:30.280
<v Speaker 2>At this rate you're walking home.

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<v Speaker 1>And she wouldn't, like, wouldn't even stand on it the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the Sunday on the couch to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom because I was like, I'm not going to

0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:45.479
<v Speaker 1>carry you like you can walk. She dragged herself like

0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 1>literally like you've been shot, Like she yet, like she

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.119
<v Speaker 1>no longer had any movement in her limbs, dragged herself

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom. And I was like, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to help you. I know what you're doing. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I was going when he gets like the

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<v Speaker 2>smallest booboos, I can't do that, and you're like do that, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You're fine. But also you're like, did they miss it

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<v Speaker 1>on the X ray? Maybe it is broken, And she's

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<v Speaker 1>just like and I'm like, you will walk on it,

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<v Speaker 1>And she's got like a bone sticking out, please listen

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<v Speaker 1>to me down Monday, dropped her a daycare and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, look, she's got one shoe on because she

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<v Speaker 1>had an.

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<v Speaker 2>Accident and we're away from the other kids.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, god, she's been in the walls. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, she will walk. She's fine. But I

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<v Speaker 1>picked her up on Monday and I said, did she

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<v Speaker 1>walk on it? And they're like, she literally dragged herself.

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<v Speaker 1>We would help her. Still wasn't walking on it. Only now,

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<v Speaker 1>like days later. I think Laura had to bribe her

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<v Speaker 1>with chocolate to make her stand. Like all good parents,

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:45.920
<v Speaker 1>we bribed our child with treats.

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Briberry is like the best parenting methods by threatening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the benchmark to how my parent. And she's only

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<v Speaker 1>now starting to walk on it.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's on the end.

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<v Speaker 1>We've come out the other end. Foot's not broken.

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<v Speaker 2>She's on the end of beautiful. Top weekend. Really, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like that's what you're saying, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the worst weekend, like has it like mentally trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get through all.

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<v Speaker 1>That last week. We said that we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>put it out there, and people did have questions. We

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 1>were going to be in a position to answer them.

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<v Speaker 1>Not in a serious way, definitely not offering any serious

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<v Speaker 1>advice here, but just if we can share any of

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<v Speaker 1>our wisdom of being parents. I've been a dad now

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<v Speaker 1>for almost four years. May a peppering of advice that

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<v Speaker 1>I can offer people. But we're going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>quick look at some of the questions that people have submitted,

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<v Speaker 1>So we put the call out there. Lots of good questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We only have time for three questions today. I believe, Ash,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you for time? I'm good for three, I've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through. These are other ones that I think are

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the best questions. We appreciate all the questions, always appreciate

0:22:58.040 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>all the questions. We're a couple of crap ones.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's a couple of abusive ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can you guys shut the fuck up? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like no. Question number one, Ash, how did you manage

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<v Speaker 1>sleep in the first few months? Did you follow a program?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question? So two kids. One kid was a terrible

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<v Speaker 2>sleep and one was much better. The first kid brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>I found like managing it you have to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always this thought in the back of your head

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a kid that you need to get

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<v Speaker 2>up when your wife gets up in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the night as well, and it's like, you don't because

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 2>then two of you are tired. Someone needs to be rested.

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<v Speaker 2>You can do the stuff during the day or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>when so she can rest. Also, some solid advice from

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<v Speaker 2>me is, if you do get up in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the night with each other, don't say a fucking word.

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<v Speaker 2>If she asks you to get water, don't even say yes,

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<v Speaker 2>just go and get it, because it's an instant argument.

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 2>That was one thing someone said to me, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, just don't talk.

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<v Speaker 1>There is nothing more testing in those periods where you're

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>both so sleep deprived. Oh and it doesn't matter who

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 1>said what or in what tone, You're just gonna there's

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be an argument. Yeah, it's just gonna happen. It

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter how much you love each other. Yeah, and

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter who's right who's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>At that time of night, No one's right, no one's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like yeah, So like, yeah, I always say

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<v Speaker 2>to my friends are having kids, I'm like, just don't

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<v Speaker 2>say anything. You know, you could be so in love

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 2>and you could be too nice as people on earth,

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<v Speaker 2>but at that time of night. One slight tone change

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<v Speaker 2>can do anything. So it's just not it's not worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>So why wasn't I stro a good sleeper?

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<v Speaker 2>He was just always like a cranky baby, silent reflux.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like his father.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a yeah, I am a cranky as hell,

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 2>so cranky others all right, right now, I'm cranky. But yeah,

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 2>he was like just uncomfortable. He slept forty minutes around

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 2>the clock for the first like six months. It was brutal.

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>And then Macy.

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<v Speaker 2>Macy was a dream so I think we a lot,

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:02.880
<v Speaker 2>as you do, you learn a lot from the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was noticeably better. Is better in all like,

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<v Speaker 2>he still wakes us.

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 1>We had it the other way around where Mary dream child.

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<v Speaker 1>She breastfed well, she slept well. Laura and I would

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>look at each other and be.

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Like, ahre we you amazing at this?

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<v Speaker 1>What are parents complaining about?

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes, is the breed You're going to trigger some

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>people just saying oh I look.

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Back, and I'm like, you were so naive and had

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<v Speaker 1>literally no idea. You just you get lucky and you

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<v Speaker 1>get a good child.

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<v Speaker 2>I always say, you get a sleeper or you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Because then Lola was the same as Oscar in

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>that like, I think I look back and I've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of eraised it from my memory. Like it's funny how

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<v Speaker 1>all of those terrible times, like the lowest of the low,

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you just put that area. Yeah, you buried it into

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a deep dark section of your brain where you never

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 1>revisit it until Laura will say, hey, do you remember

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>that time when this happened? And I'm like, oh, yeah,

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that sucks. You always forget about the bad parts, otherwise

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 1>you'd never have another kid. Laura would only sleep on

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Laura's chest and would only see maybe like forty minutes,

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 1>same as Oscar at a time. I remember there were

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.479
<v Speaker 1>times when I was just like holding Lola at like

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:13.360
<v Speaker 1>three in the morning. She'd been fed, she'd been burbed,

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and she was just screaming, scream screaming.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just existing, You're.

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Just in a place of such like frustration.

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's not you, it's not your real you.

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll talk about this with my therapist a lot. Yeah,

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.919
<v Speaker 2>it's not the real your. It's more like the situation

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>and the days and days of lack of They used

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to use it as torture, right, keep people away. So

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. I get it, and like those feelings

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<v Speaker 2>they're not abnormal.

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>But the good thing is it gets better.

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 2>It does allegedly it does get better. And like, yeah,

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 2>look the program thing we did get into. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 2>the fact. That's another thing too. And every parent does this,

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>so your kid has a good night's sleep. So what

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>you do the next day is you try and mimic

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 2>exactly what you did leading up to that good sleep.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Everybody that and I just thought it's worth noting that

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't work.

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't pay any attention to actual like sleep program.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 2>And we paid someone to come in.

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>What do they teach you?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it's more of the support, I would say. They

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of give you a rough idea of what to

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>look out for, what to be doing, when to do it,

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 2>What do you look out for, just like tired signs early,

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff, because you want to get rubbing

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 2>the eyes or you want to get onto their routine

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 2>before they're overtired, and you don't want to start the

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 2>routine when they're already tired and by the time you

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.479
<v Speaker 2>finish it they're overtired. You don't want to do that.

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 2>But also like I feel like and I have this

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>conversation with a lot of people about I'm not sleep

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 2>exper I'm just put that in there that they try

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 2>to put their kids into a routine too early. They're like,

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 2>and look, it's it's crazy because the world has like

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>and like social media has sort of made a lot

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>of people think that, Okay, well what am I doing

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 2>wrong because I can't get my kid into a routine.

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like your kids three months, chill out, yeah, just

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 2>go with the flow. I think that's a difference between

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Oscar and Macy's where we went more with the flow

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>with Macy where it's like if she falls asleep on

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 2>me right now at three months, who gives a shit?

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>But with the first one, because you're like, there's so

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.479
<v Speaker 2>much pressure on a your mum, which sucks and new

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 2>parents in general, that you've got to be getting into

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 2>a routine so quickly, Like my kids are what four

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>and nearly two. Macy's got a slight routine. Oscar was

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 2>really routine from two onwards and finally he sleeps now

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>so it'll work. Early on it was pretty much pointless

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.959
<v Speaker 2>because you're like, oh, we've got this routine and then

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>they regress.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Because then if you try and adhere to that routine.

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:36.199
<v Speaker 1>You will never leave the house.

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 2>No, And there was a time there we didn't where

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh fuck, like we can't leave the

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>house because we've got to do an hour.

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>It's spirals and spirals. Yeah, that's when it gets high.

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 2>The worst is when you go you do so many

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>weeks and it's like starting to pay off, like great,

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 2>and then they regress and they hit the worst word

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>in the English dictionary, which is a leap. I hit

0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 2>a leap and.

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<v Speaker 1>Going my spine.

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad I don't really have to hear that

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>word anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number two ash thoughts on plac center encapsulation. Would

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you take the capsules yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck does any of that mean?

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>We I'm glad you asked. I've googled this, I've googled.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally don't know what any of those words were

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 2>that you just gave to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus center encapsulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to guess what I think it means?

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<v Speaker 1>Go on?

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have a try something to do with trapping

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the placenta.

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well pretty much pretty much. But when you say trap,

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it means like you're like setting like a bear traff

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>at nighttime. It comes, and then you come back the

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>next day and you're like, well, we've got boys, and

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, we've got this is a good size.

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like it it's funny that like every

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.479
<v Speaker 2>time you know, you're talking with your other parent friends,

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>there's always someone who's got a story about something to

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 2>do with the placenta.

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 1>There's always someone out there who's a little bit.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 2>And I saw like someone baked bread with it.

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you can drive it out and well, this

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>is kind of just kind of what this is. So

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>let me read you to your description. Okay. In the

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>placenta encapsulation process, the placenta is steamed, dehydrated, ground into

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a powder, and then sealed envitamin sized capsules. What why

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>There are companies out there that will do it for you,

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>And if you work with your duela, she might offer

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>that service as well. And if you're wondering why, it

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>says here keyword is possible. The possible benefits of placenta

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>encapsulation include a decrease in postparter mood disorders good thing, possible,

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>increased production of oxytocin possibility, decrease in stress hormones another possibility,

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and restoration of iron levels following bleeding after birth, and

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>an increase of milk.

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Supply or from It's like a mirror. I'm pretty sure

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>there's a multivitamin out there that does all of that, surely,

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 2>But it's not made out of a human organ. Is

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>it an organ I don't even know. Yeah, i'd say

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 2>it's helped create life, of course, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just taking a capsule. But even the thought

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how it's said there, if you can't do it.

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Yourself, organizations out there?

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Who on earth is doing that themselves? How many ways

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>you need to cook that thing? You dried it, you

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 2>steamed it, you grilled it, your air fryer marinated, you

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<v Speaker 2>marinated it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Grounded it into a fine powder, there'd be nothing left.

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<v Speaker 2>It just be like eating a capsule full of sand.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always think I've tried to take fish capsules

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<v Speaker 1>like fish oil, and I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then burbie fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, burb and you can taste the fish.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how they also on that fish oil thing,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, yeah, no, like it's got no aftertaste. Bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>It absolutely does. Imagine the aftertaste of placenta.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the foretaste of placenta would be, and.

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<v Speaker 1>For no guarantee of the benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like just possible.

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<v Speaker 1>It might help or it may not do anything at.

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<v Speaker 2>All, all right, So the question was would I tell yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so why would I need to take it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take a guess, or like your wife

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<v Speaker 1>or your partner is going through it, then I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it may be nice to also join her along that journey.

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<v Speaker 2>A look, if April was like, this is what we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do, well I'm going to do I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do that. I'll support you and what you do. One,

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<v Speaker 2>You're not doing it in the house. Don't bring that

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<v Speaker 2>thing back here too, It's not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So can I take a guess and say that during childbirth,

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<v Speaker 1>did they ask you the question of like do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to like they have this thing in a tub,

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<v Speaker 1>like do you want to keep it? Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah? Nah? Like first one was ended up being an

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<v Speaker 2>emergency C section, so.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no like discussion of well, then we're about

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<v Speaker 1>number two today it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a plan C section. There's no discussion of that either.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've missed out on two plent they're missing. If

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<v Speaker 2>anyone sees two placentas, they're my wife's, she definitely doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm trying to, like calf my memory back

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<v Speaker 1>to childbirth, and I'm pretty sure it's and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you faint?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no fainting.

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll say that for another story. This thing's big, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a big, hunky like meaty. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just like a little dainty thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well people like eat it right, yeah, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks fucking awful and they say like, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do? You want to keep it? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>want us to do?

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>How do you want to cook? So we've got an

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<v Speaker 2>fer over here, a steamer over here with a smoker

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<v Speaker 2>on this side, or we could grill it.

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<v Speaker 1>Medium rarely pepercorn sauce, sureroom sauce. But if Laura wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, I'd be like, go knock yourself out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not jumping on.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 2>And don't kiss me after it.

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's center encapsulation, not for me, not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>If the fact is it's like us, think with these things,

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<v Speaker 2>how did we get there? How did the person who

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<v Speaker 2>came up with this get there.

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess maybe it's because animals in the wild

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>would eat the percenta.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I get that. But I mean, how do

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<v Speaker 2>who was thinking let's go through all these processes to

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 2>get it to a fine capsule. What was that person thinking?

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Were they like, what were they hoping to achieve? I

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 2>just don't know how we got it.

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 1>It does like it kind of appeals to me a

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit, and like the primal aspect, like truly in

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the animals in the wild, But I think animals in

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the wild eat the percenta to like, obviously you don't

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>want to have anything that's going to try.

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Animals in the world just kill each other for food. Matt.

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not basing my eating a placenta.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Of what it how it does in the wild of a.

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Prime just because of the primal aspect of it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>from me, from me.

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<v Speaker 1>We did have a third question I've looked at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Ash, We'll make it a quick one, Yeah, just make

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>it really que bang it out anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what is the most asshole thing your child has

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<v Speaker 1>said and done? Do you order someone else?

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Nothing for me comes to mind. I do have a

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 2>funny story about a friend so, as we all know,

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>as a kids get a little bit older, two three,

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 2>getting him into bigger car seats, it becomes a struggle.

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 2>So a friend of mine was at the park trying

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.240
<v Speaker 2>to leave the park, trying to put his kid into

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>the car seat, and she was obviously not obliging, so

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 2>she started to scream help. Just so we've got a

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 2>fully grown man trying to abduct a three year old

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>child and dreaming.

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<v Speaker 1>People come over.

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<v Speaker 2>Non he got really lucky that the people were at

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>the park also saw them, Like, yeah, it was definitely,

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 2>but like he was saying to me, it's happened more

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>than once, and it's aole. That's an asshole move, that's toxics.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's crazy. Like imagine like the embarrassment of

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>that of people thinking you're abducting this child.

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>And also you have to like go through and get

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>photos if someone goes to you abducting that child, to

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>then try and convince.

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>The last thing I want to do is steal my

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 2>own child. Okay, if someone else, so your mate, take

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 2>him with you. Thankfully it hasn't happened to me yet.

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>What about you? To me? Your kids aren't assholes?

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<v Speaker 1>I reck well, sometimes they have their moments, and I'm

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit of a sensitive soul.

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Lash I picked up on that I only cried before

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 2>when I was talking to you about my hospital.

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Was it the tears when you told me about your story?

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>The most asshole thing my kids have done is probably

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>when just like Miley will look at me and be

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>like I love you anymore.

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 2>It's brutal, isn't it. I don't want to play with you.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're not my best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah dagger, absolute dagger.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes you know, I take offense to that, and

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you can't.

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.919
<v Speaker 2>I just got it. You can't say that to me, especially.

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>In public, so that that hurts. Or sometimes if I

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>really try and do something nice, like you're going to

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 1>go to Kmart, maybe I'll give her a little treat,

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and she's just like, doesn't give me anything in return.

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>In return, she's like like a border a jumper once

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, I hate this jumper and it

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>was meant to be, like it's really sweet, Daddy daugh

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>at a moment where I was like, she's gonna love

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>this and like it's a cute little pink jumper, and

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>she's just like spitting.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 2>On it when you go and buy them something they

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 2>need and then they try and swap it out with

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 2>something they want on the way out. Yeah, it's like

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I want this instead. It's like a toylet.

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a loveless game we play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm sure that every parent at some stage their

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 2>kids gone, I don't love you anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I will this house right now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my world.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just living in ash Wicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is time. Time, it's time to wrap us up.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks again.

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<v Speaker 1>We will at some point, We're not sure when. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not next week, maybe not the week after that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we will do an interview with other parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we want to try and get some other dads on,

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 2>even moms. I mean I don't want to, like I

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>just sort of threw that because we had two. I

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>would honestly hate to be a woman sitting in this

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>room when what happens when the microphones were off the farting, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, Oh I like got backed up right now.

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 2>They've got that growling in my stomach anyway, But yeah,

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 2>we definitely want to try and get some other parents on.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there's any parents you want to have us interview,

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<v Speaker 1>we are absolutely open to any thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know them personally and it's probably best.

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<v Speaker 1>But until then, thank you very much. We see next week.

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