1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Great per flick with Benosh. Good morning, Ben, good morning. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Brought us today Pedro Pascal. Yeah, yeah, I'm just that's it, 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: that's undone. Yeah, the Internet's boyfriend, Pedro Pascal is so 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: hot right now. Everyone loves Pedro and so he is 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: one of a love triangle basically with Chris Evans and 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Dakota Johnson in this new film Materialists. Now, before I 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: get into this film, it's normally maybe I wouldn't go 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: into the director straight away, but I think it's important 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: because the director of this film is Selene's song Who. 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: For people who are not familiar with her, she is 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: the Korean Canadian slash American director behind Past Lives, a 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: film from a couple of years ago that was also 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: a love triangle based on her real life story of 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: growing up in Soul, having a childhood sweetheart, moving to America, 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: marrying an American, and then her childhood sweetheart rocks up 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: and it's kind of a you know, awkward kind of 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: situation like did she make did she make the right decision? Well, 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a sliding doors thinks about what 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: might have been. And so that film was incredible, emotionally devastating. 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: It was nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. She 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: was also nominated for Best Original Screenplay, So two time 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Oscar nominee for her first film. So Selene's Song hit 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: the ground running as a filmmaker, and so there was 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of attention around what she 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: did next. And so people might look at materialists and 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: certainly at the trailer and go okay, So the director 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: of this Best Picture nominee has done a generic rom com. 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: It does kind of feel like a commercial sellout. But 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: the problem is it's not, and it's kind of it's 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: not art house either. It's in between. She wrote the 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: film not as you know, an attempt to do something 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: more mainstream. She actually wrote it while she was waiting 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: for Past Lives to hit the cinema, so she didn't 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: even know Past Lives was going to be successful when 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: she wrote this movie. It was also based on something 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: in her real life. She worked as a match maker 37 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: in New York for six months and in this film, 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Dakota Johnson plays a matchmaker in New York. And you 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: look at the trailer and you go, this is a 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: classic rom com, but that there's not much calm, and 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: there's also not a lot of rom it's really a movie. 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: It's really a movie more about maths. It's mathematics. Oh yes, maths. No, 43 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: sounds weird, and it certainly doesn't sound very sexy when 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: you look at the poster and you've got Chris Evans 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: and Pedro Pascal and Dakota Johnson. Maths no, not that sexy. 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: But so basically, as a match maker, it really is 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: about a mathematical equation. You've got a weigh up variables 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: such as height, weight, age, income and determine a person's 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: worth and whether or not that's compatible with somebody else's age, weight, 50 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. That's not terribly romantic, 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: but that's the business of matchmakers because people come to 52 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: them and they say, look, I want to find my 53 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: significant other. And the matchmaker says, okay, what are you 54 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: looking for? And they're like, I'm looking, I'm looking. I'm 55 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: looking for a guy that's six foot tall. He's got 56 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: to make more than two hundred grand a year. He's 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: got to be, you know, under thirty five, but over thirty. 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of numbers get thrown out there and 59 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: then they start talking about, oh, well, you know, like 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: I want someone who's got a good sense of humor 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: and so on. But in this movie, it explores the 62 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: fact that, you know, people say, you know, I want 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: someone with a great personality that I can you know, 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: go to the movies with. But in reality, you know, 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: sometimes that's not actually what they're looking for, and people 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: are quite superficial and it's like, oh, that person's maybe 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: carrying a few extra pounds and that's that's a deal breaker. 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: And so this film is very unflinching and when it 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: examines those types of things. Dakota Johnson's the matchmaker, so 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: she's you know, very brutal in her calculations as she's 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: setting up these people and in her own love life. 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: It's a disaster really, she's kind of so's she sees 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: these people try and fail to find love and it's 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: put her right off. The whole concept can't take exactly 75 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: Council Eliza, and so then she meets then she meets 76 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Pedro Pascal, a rich hedge fund type, like multi multi millionaire, 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: amazing apartment, and he's also and so the surprise surprise, 78 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: she goes, Oh, you know what I'm gonna I'm going 79 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: to get into the game. Here my mathematical matchmaking brain says, 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: you're a good one. You're a good match. I could, 81 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: I could farm you out to some of my clients, 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: but no, no, I'm going to keep you. Yes, so 83 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: she starts. She starts dating Pedro Pascal wife and everything. 84 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: Do you think, okay, Like, why is this movie? This 85 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: is the first twenty five minutes. Why do we need 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: to even continue anymore? This movie is over? Yeah, this 87 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: romance is done. But then of course Chris Evans, who 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: is her old boyfriend, struggling actor, a bit of a 89 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: no hoper, comes onto the scene, and then she's faced 90 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: with this choice. You know, Chris Evans might be the 91 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: love of my life even though he's got not a 92 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: cent to his name, and if I end up with him, 93 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: life is going to be difficult. Or do I use 94 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: my head and go and you know, use my brain 95 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: and on paper Pedro Pascal, who's perfect. The problem with 96 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: this film is it attempts to make super rich Pedro 97 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: Pascal the worst option, which makes zero sense. Like anybody 98 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: watching this movie is going like what the heck? Like 99 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: like go with Pedro exactly, And I think that is 100 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: part of the problem. Like Pedro, he's too perfect, and 101 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: their attempts to try and make him less than perfect 102 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: just just don't make sense. Find and and the and 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: part of that is, I guess you know, Celene script 104 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: gravitates so much towards Pedro Pascal unintentionally and intentionally that 105 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: when when Chris Evans starts to play more of a role, 106 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: it just doesn't make sense. Like you're just going like, 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: why would you? Because and it kind of you know, 108 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Chris Evans's character this, you know, he's a waiter at 109 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: a catering company and acts in these little players and 110 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: there's nothing about him and lives in a sharehouse that's filthy. 111 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: There's nothing about it that is actually appealing. And he 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: and if you talk about, oh, he's the love of 113 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: my life, like you just don't even buy that. Yeah, 114 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: And then you've got the Dakotah Johnson of it all. 115 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: Who you know, she was in one of the worst 116 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: movies of all time in Madam Webb and obviously the 117 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: Fifty Shades series, And so the jury is out on 118 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: whether Dakotah Johnson is even much of a box office 119 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: draw card in the first place. I think she's okay. 120 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: This is probably the best performance of her career. The 121 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: good thing about this film Sillin Song's direction is incredible, 122 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: like the way the camera lingers on little details to 123 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: add intimacy to a scene. It's beautiful in many many ways. 124 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: It's more art house than rom com, but it's not 125 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: art house enough to appeal to the fans of Past Lives, 126 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: and it's certainly not rom common enough to appeal to 127 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: fans of those Matthew McConnaughey rom coms like. I've had 128 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: people message me who have seen this film and have 129 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: gone rom com fans, going, oh, you know, I just 130 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: didn't like it at all. And I totally expect that, 131 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: because you know, the trailer sells it as this lighthearted, 132 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: funny rom com romp. That's not what it is. Chris 133 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: comes in. I just wanted to get your vibe. Does 134 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: it start feeling a bit past lives at all? When 135 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: the past love comes in? My Past Lives is just 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: so much better. And there will be people who you'll 137 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: you'll know, people who watch this film and they will 138 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: try and convince you that it's amazing. They'll be trying 139 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: to convince themselves it's amazing because they're hoping it would be, 140 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: and they hope. It's more wishful thinking than anything else. 141 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: And you know, go watch Past Lives, all right. It's 142 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: like I tried to convince myself that The Mountain One 143 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: with interested it was good because it was terrible. Okay, 144 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: so how many know exactly Sophie's choices? Are you giving 145 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: its three? Three? It's not bad, It's like, it's not 146 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: a terrible film. Still, go and watch it, but just 147 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: don't expect it. Yeah, mid middling, so her next movie 148 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: will be critical. But definitely go watch Past Lives though, 149 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: because that is incredible. All right, thank you, thanks for 150 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: your honesty. There's always