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Speaker 1: Cliff Diving event this Saturday, October fifteen. It was a

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Speaker 1: Budgie Smuggler for hosting us to make it all possible. Hi, everyone, welcome.

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Speaker 1: It's very very cool to have you all hear this.

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Speaker 1: all the team for having us down here, and thank

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Speaker 1: the Female Athlete Project, it's all about sharing the stories

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Speaker 1: And I think it's really cool to sit down. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's an absolute pleasure and it's nice to finally meet you.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited to sit down and have a chat

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Speaker 1: with you. I've seen a lot of your Instagram reels

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was saying earlier it wasn't your average

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Speaker 1: So how do you overcome that fear? Because sometimes when

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Speaker 1: When you made the move to Sydney at fifteen, was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. There was definitely a change in lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: Like my dad, my dad picked up and we moved

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Speaker 4: from Lake McCrory to Sydney to I think eleven session

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Speaker 2: I remember that time that you came in like you

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I walked in.

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Speaker 5: But I like, I honestly do think it's the advice.

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Speaker 1: Six years? Yeah? Can you talk us through because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think hindsight is a beautiful thing looking back, and

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Speaker 4: I'm really grateful that I didn't give up. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: This is so humble.

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Speaker 4: No, I wanted to read this quote because you I

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Speaker 1: But I love this quote from Joey Zuba if I

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Speaker 1: He said, it's very rare that you see an athlete

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Speaker 4: like it is the best feeling in the world when

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00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 4: you overcome those fears, like on a daily basis, Like

447
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 4: for instance, the other day in the helicopter, as soon

448
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: as we took off, like I was silent, and I'm

449
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 4: thinking there's just so much going through your mind, and

450
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 4: then there's that moment of silence when you're sitting on

451
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 4: the end of the platform. When you hit the water,

452
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, okay, I just overcame that, and it's

453
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 4: kind of like chasing that feeling again. And I think

454
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 4: another thing also is like how much I've seen the

455
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: sport grow for the females in the last five years.

456
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 4: Like it's really really a cool feeling to be one

457
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 4: of the pioneers. And I think that's one of the

458
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 4: biggest things things that motivates me.

459
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: Do you have that level of fear every time you

460
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: get up to dive?

461
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 5: Yes?

462
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: How do you approach it and how has your approach

463
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: changed over the years.

464
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, like the fear is always there, Like it's

465
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 4: twenty two meters, it's high. I think we I think

466
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 4: it's smart to be aware of it, and I also

467
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 4: think it's very smart too to be scared, because that's

468
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 4: how you kind of mitigate the risks, I guess, And

469
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 4: like there was a moment I remember last year, I

470
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: was standing up on the on the twenty meter platform

471
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Speaker 4: and I'd been training a lot, and I said to

472
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Speaker 4: myself like, hang on, I'm not that nervous. Like, and

473
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 4: I actually walked down and I didn't dive because I

474
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 4: didn't feel nervous.

475
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, yeah, how often does that happen?

476
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: Ah?

477
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 5: Not so often?

478
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: Okay, but yeah, I think like it definitely just gets

479
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 4: easier to deal with the fear and I kind of

480
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 4: learned how to.

481
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 5: Embrace it and use it as a as a kind

482
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Speaker 5: of energy.

483
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 4: I know that sounds a little bit woo woo, but

484
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: it's totally true. And when I'm competing, especially, like I

485
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 4: have a small little routine there that I go through,

486
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 4: just you know, going through the motions and doing all

487
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: of the thinking and thinking about the dive, thinking about

488
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: what I have to do, how many twists, how many summersaults,

489
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 4: and kind of just I guess, putting myself in a

490
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 4: place that I'm going to know what to expect when

491
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 4: I step on the end, so that the fear is

492
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 4: not so overwhelming when you're actually staying there with your

493
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 4: toes perched over the edge of a twenty two meter platform.

494
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: Are we talking five stories?

495
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 7: Like?

496
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 5: What? Yeah?

497
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, five story building.

498
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 5: I think it's equivalent to.

499
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: It's quite quite high when your toes are over the edge.

500
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: What's going through your head?

501
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: Hopefully not too much?

502
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 4: Surprisingly, Like it's just a couple couple of things, like

503
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: a couple of things that I need to focus on

504
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 4: within the dive. And it also depends on the dive.

505
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: It depends on the location as to what I'm thinking about.

506
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, usually it's nothing except you know, swing your

507
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 4: arms fast, keep your head still, just focusing on those

508
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 4: kind of two or three technical points just to make

509
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: sure that it all goes smoothly. And yeah, usually the

510
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 4: takeoff of the dive, like the first initial part is

511
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 4: what's in my mind.

512
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: And then when you're in the air for about is

513
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: it about three to four seconds that you're in the

514
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: air falling.

515
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: For yeah, roughly roughly three seconds. This is a strange one,

516
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 4: like sometimes you can sometimes I can remember what I

517
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 4: think during the dive and others I can't, and what

518
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 4: you I think.

519
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: The thing that I remember most is like what.

520
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: I visually see during the dive. But yeah, there's not

521
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: much going on. It's just like, Okay, that's one summersault,

522
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 4: that's two summersaults. Okay, there's the water, Okay, stay tight.

523
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: It's kind of just like a really fast thought.

524
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: Process and then as you hit the water, well you

525
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: either go, oh that hurt or you either.

526
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: Go like, oh that was perfect, I messed it up.

527
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: How often does it hurt?

528
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite quite often.

529
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 4: I mean we hit the water at like eighty five

530
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 4: kilometers an hour. But you know, like the more you

531
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: do it, the more you train, the easier the impact becomes.

532
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 4: Like you'll notice if you haven't dived that from that

533
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: high in a couple of weeks, that it'll hurt a

534
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: lot more than you know that if you put in.

535
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 5: The training, so kind of like anything though.

536
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, now tell me if I'm wrong. But because of

537
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: that impact, you don't actually practice the competition dives until

538
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: you're doing them on the day. So do you break

539
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: down the dive and do it from a lower height

540
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: to prepare for competition?

541
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Speaker 4: I mean it depends in the summer, in the between

542
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 4: the the series events. I'm based in Austria. We have

543
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: a there is a twenty meter platform there, but I

544
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 4: mean it's very rare that I do more than one

545
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 4: or two repetitions of the dives to practice, just because

546
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: the impacts strong.

547
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 5: And yeah, that's correct.

548
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: We spent most of the time training on three meter,

549
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: five meter, ten meter, seven meter kind of you know,

550
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: training the rotations, training the takeoffs, and then the entries,

551
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: and then.

552
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 5: When we get to the top we put it all together.

553
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a muscle memory though, like it

554
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: kind of all just flows. If you've done the if

555
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: you've done the dives down down the bottom, it kind

556
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: of all just comes together naturally when you get.

557
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: Up the top.

558
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 4: And I think one of the biggest pieces of pieces

559
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: of advice that I was given last year also is

560
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: that none of the corrections should be should be made

561
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: at the top. They should be made in the training

562
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 4: down on the lower heights, and then it should just

563
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: come naturally when you get up there.

564
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 5: If that makes sense.

565
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: How do you carry yourself now as a six time champ?

566
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: Do you ever say what yourself? You're like, I'm a

567
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: six time champ verse they.

568
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 4: Go, Now, it's just gonna say I can I can

569
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 4: say that in Sydney after this.

570
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: Sorry in Sydney it's confirmed officially yet, but.

571
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 4: I mean locked it in, yeah, but I can't wait

572
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 4: to say that.

573
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm getting a bit excited. Technically five times, but you've

574
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: locked in the series and Sydney is now a really

575
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: cool optionity. We're going to chat about Sidney, but it's

576
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: a really cool opportunity where you actually get to compete

577
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: at home and celebrate that victory as well. Yeah, the

578
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: like looking back to when you were you had your

579
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: first competition and you felt embarrassed about your dive, and

580
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: now you turn up to the events and you're the

581
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: person that everyone wants to beat.

582
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not always that nice having the target on

583
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: your back.

584
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean I always just try and.

585
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: Carry myself the same, and I think, yeah, I don't

586
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: want to I don't want winning to to I don't

587
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: want to depend on winning to to make me happy

588
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 4: in sport. And it is like it's a hard thing

589
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: to kind of learn, But yeah, I try and carry

590
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: myself the same, and I always find it important to

591
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: try and have as much fun at the event. Still,

592
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 4: even if everybody you're there, everybody wants to win, but

593
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: I still want to enjoy myself. I don't want to

594
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 4: get five years down the track and be like, oh,

595
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: I didn't even enjoy all those years trying to trying

596
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: to fight for the titles.

597
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: So, yeah, what is your biggest goal?

598
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 5: I guess goal I can't let you in the script

599
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 5: to my next project.

600
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: I really like to know.

601
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 4: Now my biggest goal now, I guess, like you know,

602
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: after after the last six years, like out, I think

603
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: at the end of this season, like I really am

604
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: going to step back and reassess my goals. Like I

605
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: think now I'm just going to start playing with different

606
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: dive ideas, like trying to build a degree of difficulty

607
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: and just kind of show what's possible for the women

608
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 4: and the female divers within the sport. I think that's

609
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: that's definitely my biggest goal after you know, the last

610
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: six years, it's now to put.

611
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: The goal elsewhere in it in a different direction.

612
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: How do you balance that between wanting to kind of

613
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: challenge the limits first, assessing the risk and what's involved

614
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: in that process. I imagine that's a big process with

615
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: your team to kind of work out what that looks

616
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: like if it's a new dive.

617
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the new dives, they always start as an

618
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: idea and like there's been a few already that I've

619
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: planted the seed and you kind of start working on

620
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: them slowly. But yeah, when you say that, like taking

621
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: risks kids, it's dangerous and also if you're competing and

622
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: you want that title. Then it's like, okay, trying to

623
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: figure out the right moment in time to try something new, and.

624
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, figure out I guess the risk first reward.

625
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's you know, you spend probably six to

626
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 4: eight months kind of building building on the new dives,

627
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: like practicing the lead ups before you put it all together.

628
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: Is there a dive that hasn't been done by a

629
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: woman yet that you've got in your side or is

630
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: that also a secret?

631
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: There's a few.

632
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: There's one dive that one of the one of the

633
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: og Girls, Brazilian diver.

634
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: I've been diving with her a few years.

635
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: She did it once last year and.

636
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: Actually she did it. She did the dive that inspired

637
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: me previously, which is my most difficult dive now, and

638
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: she showed me that's possible. So I think, I think

639
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: this is the first one. I want to try this one,

640
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: and then yeah, there is another huge one, but I

641
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: don't know how possible it is, but I'm going to

642
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 4: I'm going to try and go for it.

643
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Can you talk us through what it might involve.

644
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 5: Flipping backwards four times in a pike positions?

645
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I don't I don't want to I don't.

646
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: Want to make myself commit to it right now because.

647
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: This is just casually that's hectic.

648
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: It is, it is hectic, but I mean you put

649
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: in the work, it's possible.

650
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: Yeah cool. I like that. Talk talk to us about

651
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: this Sydney event. First time read Bookliff, having has ever

652
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: been in Australia. What is it like to be able

653
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: to compete? And you talked about that moment of being

654
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: able to sit back and kind of reflect. But what

655
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: does it mean for you and for the sport?

656
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, it's it's super cool for me.

657
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: I think like.

658
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: The moment I realized it was that last dive in

659
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: the last competition in Italy where I stealed the deal

660
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: with the six world title. I think it was like

661
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: the feeling that I felt at that moment was that

662
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: five seasons of diving came down to that that moment,

663
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: and I kind of went like, Okay, this this is

664
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: a big piece of my puzzle competing in front of

665
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: a home crowd. So I'm trying not to trying not

666
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: to really think about how it all feel because I

667
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: just want to live in that moment and it'll be

668
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: super cool to stand up there and rev up the

669
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Speaker 4: crowd in Sydney Harbor.

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Speaker 5: It'll be cool.

671
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Speaker 1: Do you ever do like a slow clap before you die?

672
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Speaker 1: Can I start one? What will the Sydney event involve

673
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Speaker 1: for people who might want to come and watch.

674
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Speaker 4: So, yeah, it'll be the grand finale of the of

675
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Speaker 4: the Red Book cliff Diving World Series. It'll be held

676
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Speaker 4: in Farm Cove writing in front of Missus mccruori's chair.

677
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: And yeah, they'll be.

678
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: People throwing themselves, flipping, twisting, turning from twenty seven meters

679
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: and twenty meters and yeah, putting on a good show.

680
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: And also in the men's category as well, there's there's

681
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Speaker 4: going to be a.

682
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Speaker 1: Fight for the title.

683
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: So this will be exciting.

684
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: And I think another really exciting thing that I forgot

685
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: to mention is that the females are actually diving after

686
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Speaker 4: the males, just the first time that this is happening, so.

687
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 5: Will be the big finisher.

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Speaker 1: I love that, which is nice. Yeah, very cool. I

689
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: have to do a shout out Missus mcrow's chair. That's

690
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: where Dad proposed to Mum. They're here in the live audience.

691
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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you because I feel like a

692
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Speaker 1: lot of the time when things are written about you,

693
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Speaker 1: and when there's interviews, it's almost this thing of like

694
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Speaker 1: the girl who stands on the edge of the cliff

695
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: and confronts fear in the face, and that's kind of

696
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: you become known as something. But I wanted to ask

697
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Speaker 1: what do you want to be remembered for? What do

698
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: you want you legacy to be as an athlete?

699
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 4: I guess as somebody that pushed the boundaries and as

700
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: I said, like, you know, found a different path from

701
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: from the sport that I was once involved in, you know,

702
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 4: diving around the world and just showing people that other

703
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: opportunities are possible.

704
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool. What of what's been the favorite

705
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: moment of your career so far?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to tell you that one in like

707
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Speaker 4: two weeks time. Okay, okay, no, the favorite moment in

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Speaker 4: my career.

709
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: Look, there's been so many.

710
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: There's been so many, it's really hard to choose a

711
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 4: favorite moment.

712
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: But I think I think this one.

713
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Speaker 4: The Sydney event coming and it being the final and

714
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: to dive in front of my family is going to

715
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Speaker 4: be pretty amazing.

716
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's going to be my favorite.

717
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: It's not even happened yet, And it's my favorite that.

718
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: We might open up to a couple of questions from

719
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Speaker 1: the floor. I know Chris had a question if you're

720
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: happy to come up and ask, So if you want

721
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: to come up, we'll do it in this because this

722
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: is also recording for the podcast. Obviously you could just

723
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: say it from your chair, but just come up here

724
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: so we can hear it for the podcast.

725
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Speaker 8: I agree.

726
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Speaker 9: My question is is cliff diving a sport you'd like

727
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 9: to see more women get involved in?

728
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 5: And if so, how do you think you go about

729
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 5: doing that?

730
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Speaker 8: Like it's such a cool sport.

731
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: And it seems really inaccessible to normal people who are

732
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: not cool like you.

733
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question, absolutely, Like it's already growing

734
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 7: and this year it's kind of been unofficially announced that.

735
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: There is like an umbrella off diving Australia called hardh

736
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: Diving Australia. And yes, it's been pushed at the moment

737
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: within the junior diving community as well. So I think

738
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Speaker 4: that'll be the way forward, is just to get people

739
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: started and for the sport to be recognized within the

740
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: boots of sport and things like that. So yeah, I really,

741
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: really hope that we're looking at Olympic Games one day

742
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 4: as well, because we're already competing in the Female World

743
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: Championships and the World Cups and things like that. So yeah,

744
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: it's definitely going into that direction and the community is

745
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: talking about hopefully making an Olympic debut soon.

746
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: I want to follow up on that, and if there's

747
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: anyone who does want to come and ask a question,

748
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: you can come hang out up here. But what has

749
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: your experience been like throughout the series competing as a

750
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: female athlete at their similarities in terms of resources and

751
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: treatment and prize money.

752
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 4: Yes, when I first began, it was there was a

753
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: bit of separation with the women weren't.

754
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 5: At every tour stop.

755
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: But as of twenty nineteen, they introduced equal prize money,

756
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: equal format, equal amount of divers and yeah.

757
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: Thing totally equal. So that was a really special moment.

758
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 4: Unfortunately we had to wait a year because of twenty twenty,

759
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: but yeah, it was. It was really cool to stand

760
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: up there with all the ladies in twenty twenty one

761
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 4: and know that we were going to every single tour

762
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 4: stop and yeah, it was equal prize money and equal,

763
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 4: equal opportunities, equal everything.

764
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.

765
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: And what is it like having brands like red Bull

766
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: and Budgy Smuggler supporting you so you can go and

767
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: live your dreams?

768
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, yeah, it's it's great working working with teams

769
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 4: like red Bull and Budgy. I think my favorite thing

770
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 4: is that no idea seems ridiculous and yeah it's it's

771
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: super cool and I'm super lucky to have people backing

772
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: me like that and backing my crazy ideas.

773
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: Anyone want to come up and ask a question?

774
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: Two questions One what's the towel?

775
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 5: Why I was especially in the Olympics, but what's the

776
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 5: town about.

777
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: The towel is like, well, well, is to dry yourself?

778
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, like it's it's to dry yourself

779
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: and actually to wet yourself as well, because it's it's a.

780
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 2: Bizarre thing like it holds water.

781
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: It's it's similar to like akshammy, but when you're flipping,

782
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: when you're rotating and you want to be grabbing into

783
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 4: the type positions, then it helps you to be like

784
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 4: dry and not slip. And then I always call it

785
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: my comfort blanket as well, like.

786
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Speaker 9: Right, questionably, And then the other one on the tour stop,

787
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Speaker 9: which is your favorite dive minus Sydney, which hasn't happened.

788
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 5: That's a difficult question. Look, I always love Portugal.

789
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 4: Here's all the islands in Portugal, and actually probably the

790
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 4: coldest location we have dived at, which was down Patrick

791
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 4: Head in Islands. Like it was it was super beautiful,

792
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: something similar to home off the cliff.

793
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Speaker 10: So yeah, I always freeze when I die on family holidays,

794
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 10: I get to the edge. What's like a thing that

795
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 10: I can run through my mind before making it die

796
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 10: so that everyone does a look at me while I'm

797
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 10: sitting there with fear because I used to be like one,

798
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 10: two three and then just jump and I was a bomb.

799
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 10: I didn't do a flippery Is there something I can

800
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 10: say to myself that's going to get me off the edge?

801
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: I think I think you should say I shouldn't think

802
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: about this, I should just go.

803
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: Practice.

804
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: Is not thinking too much?

805
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 5: One? Two?

806
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: Is there a fear of sharks and other creatures in

807
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: the water?

808
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: I guess it's I guess it's similar to like if no,

809
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 4: not really no, I mean and sometimes like we're diving overseas,

810
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: like in the Mediterranean, it's way less likely than there's

811
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 4: sharks there.

812
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Speaker 1: But I mean no, I'm.

813
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: Also a surfer and I grew up around the beach,

814
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: so obviously, like sometimes i'm in the water that I'm

815
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: playing like Turnurn in my head. But no, not, not really.

816
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: Did you do an underground dive in Romania in a

817
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: cave or something ridiculous?

818
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 5: Yeah?

819
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: I did.

820
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: It was a It was a salt mine and it

821
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: was one hundred and fifty meters underground.

822
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: That was a couple of years ago. Yeah, this was

823
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 5: a crazy one. It was like we were perched off

824
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 5: the wall.

825
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: Like a meter out. But the water in the salt

826
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: mine was seventeen percent more dense than sea water, so

827
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 4: it was like when you went through the water, as

828
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: soon as you were like submerged, it popped you out

829
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 4: like a cork out of a champagne bottle. Like, yeah,

830
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: living in the water and like just floating because it

831
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Speaker 4: was that salty.

832
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: Did it hurt more to hit the water when it's

833
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: more dense.

834
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely. The impact felt harder.

835
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: Like I think I remember when I hit the water,

836
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't even know if my whole

837
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 4: body went under the water.

838
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: It's a weird feeling.

839
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a strange feeling. But it was a bit

840
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: harder it. I mean, I just dived a little.

841
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Lower somehow my head around some of these things. Do

842
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: you how do you end up in a situation where

843
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: you're in a salt mine diving underground?

844
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this was another another athlete project, just I

845
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: guess trying to trying to dive from allso places.

846
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 5: That was one that came about. So that's cruticoal.

847
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 9: I'd love to know what you do behind the scenes

848
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 9: for like gym work, recovery work. You talk about hitting

849
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 9: the water and I'm just wondering how you look after

850
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 9: your body and prepare it for the dives.

851
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think recovery is a is a big part

852
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: in what I do, especially after a competition weekend where

853
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: it's like three days straight of diving from that height.

854
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: Usually it takes around three days to recover. But yeah,

855
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: a lot of my preparation is also done in the gym,

856
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 4: and a lot of the focuses on areas that need

857
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: the work. They don't that I know I've been previously

858
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 4: injured or I know that I need to be really

859
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: strong in those in those areas.

860
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, I probably do like four gym.

861
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: Sessions a week on top of the diving, not only

862
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 4: not only for the strength and to speed up the

863
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: jump and the dive and everything, but.

864
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: To avoid injury.

865
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: The question was how do you condition your feet for

866
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: the impact?

867
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: I walk around bare feet.

868
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, it's.

869
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: Just yeah, I don't know.

870
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 4: I think it's just like the more you do it,

871
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: the more you get used to it.

872
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 5: They just become conditioned.

873
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes there's a real slap on feet, but yeah,

874
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: you get used to it.

875
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 8: So we were blessed to come watch you in Paris,

876
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 8: and one thing I thought was fascinating was the process

877
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 8: behind the scenes with registering what dives you are going

878
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 8: to do that day. But then can you also explain

879
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 8: the scoring system not only overall, but also each round

880
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 8: and also is it, you know, in strategy sort of things.

881
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 8: Is it better to go for a more difficult dive

882
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 8: and maybe not get a ten or is it better

883
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 8: to go for a less difficult dive and hit the ten.

884
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like that is that's the billion dollar question

885
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: right there, whether you go for the more difficult dives.

886
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: So I'll explain it a little bit first. So the

887
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: way that the diving is scored is similar to or

888
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: it's the same as ten meter diving. So there's five judges.

889
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 4: We have obviously five scores. You have a degree of difficulty,

890
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: which means how difficult the dive is. So say it's

891
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: four point three. You get an average score from the judges,

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Speaker 4: so that the highest score and the lowest score is

893
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Speaker 4: crossed off, and then the average score is times by

894
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: the degree of difficulty. So sometimes it's it's worth going

895
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Speaker 4: for the big dives, but if they're consistent enough. And yeah,

896
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Speaker 4: so the each each four rounds are all put together

897
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Speaker 4: and that's the final score.

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Speaker 1: Times come on out times.

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Speaker 11: It seems like a really calculated sport and yeah, impressive,

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Speaker 11: but I feel like it's super loose and you like

901
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 11: athletes in your like that you've met that are just

902
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 11: like nuts and would go for crazy stuff. And also

903
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Speaker 11: a tape question, have you ever had any like proper

904
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Speaker 11: like bad jumps where you've like smacked or like how

905
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Speaker 11: to shock it.

906
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where that's where the nickname coin slot came,

907
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: you know, the like all the athletes are super different,

908
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: like all the divers are different. Some people some people

909
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 4: throw gnarly dives and other like play it safe. But yeah,

910
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Speaker 4: there's I mean, you've got to you've got to be

911
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 4: a different character to dive from twenty seven meters. But yeah,

912
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Speaker 4: I mean in terms of in terms of bad dives,

913
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Speaker 4: I've had one or two.

914
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Speaker 5: Probably the worst one was I was over.

915
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Speaker 4: Rotating a little bit and I kind of was thinking

916
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Speaker 4: mid air, Okay, I'm over rotating, and I just kind

917
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: of forgot to stay super tense on the water and

918
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Speaker 4: I did both of my MCL strains and ruin strains

919
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Speaker 4: at the same time, so it was kind of like

920
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 4: both knee raced both legs at the same time. It

921
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Speaker 4: was not too pleasant, but I didn't do it again.

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Speaker 1: I only did that one.

923
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Speaker 10: This is more in visualization, so you must visualize the dive,

924
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 10: and then you can't with these cool concepts. Do you

925
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 10: think the fact that in the visualization of just a

926
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 10: normal dive that's now helping you almost visualize really cool concepts.

927
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Speaker 10: I'm in a creative industry where everything's about kind of

928
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 10: coming up with really cool stuff, and I see a

929
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Speaker 10: lot of what you probably have to do, and like

930
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Speaker 10: the helicopter was super inspiring because it's like you had

931
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 10: to visualize something that no one else would.

932
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Speaker 8: Go and do.

933
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Speaker 10: Do you think those things that you've learned in like

934
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Speaker 10: the real simple stuff have helped you like visualize really

935
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Speaker 10: cool feats.

936
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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, honestly, I do.

937
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Speaker 4: Like you never obviously, it's like a process that you

938
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 4: always start with easy. It's more simple dives and then

939
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 4: progress and the more the more you the more that

940
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: I come up with with ideas, the more hungry I

941
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: am to go for more, if that makes sense.

942
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Speaker 5: So yeah, definitely.

943
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Speaker 6: Firstly, Firstly, one little one you mentioned during at some

944
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Speaker 6: point about if you don't dive for a couple of weeks,

945
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Speaker 6: then it's going to hurt. I'm guessing it's similar. You know,

946
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 6: like a runner has to run to get the callouses

947
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 6: in their feet. Is that kind of like you basically

948
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 6: just need a full body bruise.

949
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little wake up call. Yeah, it's it's it's similar.

950
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Speaker 4: You know, if you weren't to be on the field

951
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks, you'd get back on and

952
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: the next day you go, oh on that I feel

953
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: muscles that I never knew that I had, you know.

954
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's the same thing. You just have to recondition,

955
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: I guess.

956
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Speaker 6: And the other one I'd love to for you to

957
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 6: kind of take us behind the scenes. If you think

958
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 6: of a really cool idea like let's jump out of

959
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 6: a helicopter, what happens from that idea point because obviously

960
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 6: Red Bull are super supportive with these massive stunts and everything.

961
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 6: Is there some new call and then all of a

962
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 6: sudden it turns into some like meeting and like can

963
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 6: you talk us through that process?

964
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the way that it goes. There's a

965
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 4: lot of work done behind the scenes. For instance, like

966
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 4: the hot air balloon or the idea came from one

967
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 4: day I was like sitting on my phone during COVID and.

968
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: I saw a picture of a hot air balloon.

969
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: I went and then I sent to WhatsApp message to

970
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Speaker 4: one of the team at Red Bull Australia and yeah,

971
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: from there, six months later, like all the work was done,

972
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Speaker 4: everything was organized and we were we were going.

973
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Speaker 5: For the project.

974
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 4: So yeah, there's there's a lot of planning and things

975
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 4: that go on behind the scenes. And we work together

976
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: obviously me on the on the diving side and the

977
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Speaker 4: team one, you know, getting permits and then all of

978
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: those sort of things, and it's always obviously you know,

979
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: we we get the opinions from the balloom pilot or

980
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 4: the helly pilots, and kind of local knowledge.

981
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: In a in a unique location as well. So yeah,

982
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: there's a whole group of people that make the magic

983
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Speaker 5: come to life.

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Speaker 1: MILLI is back.

985
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Speaker 3: What's your next object for jumping out?

986
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Speaker 12: I actually haven't decided this yet.

987
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 5: Actually, the next one that I was thinking, I would

988
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Speaker 5: love to dive under the northern light.

989
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 4: Oh like this isn't this is this would be a

990
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 4: really generally cold But yeah, that's that's one that I

991
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 4: that I have in my mind.

992
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Speaker 3: There's a couple of places in Tasmania, the Kimberalese.

993
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Speaker 1: Yeah, once your mindset, and how do you come back

994
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: after a shocker?

995
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Speaker 5: I got that right, that's yeah.

996
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: Look, it's it's always tough coming back from an injury

997
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: or a step back or a bad competition.

998
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Speaker 5: But I think it's just like the way that you

999
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 5: look at it.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, if something like that happens, I

1001
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: always tell myself like, all right, I've got to come

1002
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 4: back better, better than before.

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Speaker 5: And I guess it's kind.

1004
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Speaker 2: Of like a.

1005
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: Moment of redemption. Like sometimes I turn up if I

1006
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 4: have a bad competition. The next time I'm like, all right,

1007
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm going to score more than that, or

1008
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do that again. So I think

1009
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Speaker 4: it's Yeah, it's definitely just turning up and wanting to

1010
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Speaker 4: do it better than last time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time tonight has sitting down,

1012
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Speaker 1: it's been an incredible experience. I've had a huge amount

1013
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Speaker 1: of fun chatting with you, and it's been really cool.

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Speaker 1: I think hearing all about your journey, but the level

1015
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: of humility that you still carry even after so much

1016
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: success is almost frustrating because you wouldn't answer some questions.

1017
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Speaker 1: But I think it's really incredible the way that you're

1018
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: continuing to push the boundaries and use that creative side

1019
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: of your brain to do really different things. It's absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to watch you in Sydney and

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Speaker 1: get to watch you celebrate, so it would be really

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Speaker 1: really cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 4: It's honestly, it's been super fun chatting and yeah, thanks

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Speaker 4: for having me and it's a pleasure to chat it.

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