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Speaker 1: Now, I love hearing about territorians that are doing great things.

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Speaker 2: Anybody that listens to the show knows that.

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Speaker 1: But I particularly love hearing about people running, playing different sports,

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Speaker 1: all sorts.

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Speaker 2: Of stuff, no matter what it is.

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Speaker 1: If you know somebody that's doing something incredible, please do

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Speaker 1: make sure that you make me aware of it.

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Speaker 2: And well.

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Speaker 1: Right now joining me in the studio is a woman

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Speaker 1: who is set to become the first Aboriginal woman to

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Speaker 1: complete all six major marathons. So I'm talking Boston, New York, Chicago, Berlin,

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Speaker 1: Tokyo and London, and she is a local girl.

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Speaker 2: Her name is Aleira Jennings. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming in and having a

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Speaker 1: chat with me this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Now, I love a run, but I've never run a

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Speaker 1: marathon and I'm very keen to try and do one

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Speaker 1: I thought I need to find out more about this.

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Speaker 3: Where definitely a rare breed runner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's like breaking through this pain barrier. I

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Speaker 4: You know what my trick is, Katie, I just keep

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Speaker 1: You know. I was talking to a friend of mine

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Speaker 3: That's very true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Alia, tell me, how did you start running?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't always a runner.

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Speaker 4: I had a little bit of a kick in the guts.

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Speaker 4: Ten years ago I lost my grandma to diabetes. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: there when she begged and bartered for her life, And

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Speaker 4: And I had to have a good look at myself,

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Speaker 4: And running just came naturally yeah, I kind of fell

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely incredible to go from that point, you know,

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Speaker 4: I could literally only shuffle how don't use the word

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Speaker 4: I lived out in Catherine at the time, and there's

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Speaker 4: But from there I just kept on going, kept on training,

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Speaker 1: And then when did you decide, Okay, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: This also had and by accident, I was up visiting

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Speaker 4: And then I realized that I hadn't told anyone where

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Speaker 4: So I ended up driving the distance and it turned

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Speaker 3: Me, where did you just go?

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Speaker 3: And I was so out of breath.

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Speaker 4: And then I said at that moment, I said how

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Speaker 4: Love, And I guess just from there, I knew if

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Speaker 1: I just think it's wonderful that you had the mental

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Speaker 1: I've got to make some life changes here, and not

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Speaker 2: You know, you've got four kids.

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Speaker 1: They must look at you and think, well, look at

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're at that stage yet.

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Speaker 4: Kids always think that their parents embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: I've got to know, I know what they're like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think it came down to doing I

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Speaker 4: don't like doing things for myself. I like doing things

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Speaker 4: for my family, for my family, name for you know,

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Speaker 3: So since her passing, so all in her honor.

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Speaker 1: So tell me as well, you know what has it

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Speaker 4: I I have pairing my training in with the kids

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Speaker 4: I have the support and love of my husband's family

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Speaker 4: I have unfortunately missed birthdays being away, missing my kid's birthdays,

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Speaker 1: I just reckon, it's wonderful. Tell me which marathon has

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Speaker 4: The hardest was definitely Chicago. I was quite sick in

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Speaker 4: It was cold, it was windy, I was really undertrained,

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Speaker 2: Now tell me as well.

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Speaker 1: I know, like I know that there must be some

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Speaker 1: be some crazy stuff really that you see when you're

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: I have been overtaken while running by people with prosthetic legs.

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Speaker 4: And I actually I've seen this guy running a few times.

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Speaker 4: He's an American lad and he is blind, so he's

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Speaker 4: And I've seen him a few marathons.

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Speaker 3: Now I think he's collecting his six stuffs. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But it's just amazing because I think if all of

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Speaker 4: Imagine having to imagine being blind and having to rely

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Speaker 1: To guide your spot on absolutely spot on. Now tell

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Speaker 1: your six stars. There's only one hundred and three people

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Speaker 3: In Australia, Australian women, and you will.

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Speaker 1: Be the first Aboriginal woman, Yes, to do this. How

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Speaker 4: Very proud, very proud. Shout out to my Kumarican and

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Speaker 1: I reckon, it's awesome. I just think it's an incredible

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: So Charlie Maher is the first Indigenous Australian male who

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Speaker 1: Now for you, you know, it is such a proud moment,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I know that you also want to

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, my granddad. My granddad's Vick Ludwig. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: I'm wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he and what do you reckon? What's he

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Speaker 4: Oh? I have breakfast with him on Tuesday mornings and

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Speaker 4: loves hearing of where I'm going next. And yeah, he says,

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Speaker 4: my my grandma had I've got my running genes from

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Speaker 4: think it's a good mix, A good mix.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Alira, It's so wonderful to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: I think it's such a wonderful thing that you're doing,

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Speaker 1: and you should be so proud of yourself, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the way that really you've been able to do this

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Speaker 1: over the last ten years is incredible stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you coming into the studio and

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Speaker 2: having a chat with us this morning. Please let us

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Speaker 2: know how it goes.

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Speaker 3: Definitely well.

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Speaker 2: We're very keen to see some photos and hear some more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm more on Instagram if anyone wants

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Speaker 4: to follow, it's Aleira Underscore runs Ironic.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll check it out. It is great to speak

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Speaker 2: to you this morning. Thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 2: into the studio for a chat.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie, thank you