1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Kate Torba and coming up on today's show, Sophi Keasha 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: puts her makeup business on the market. Kaarina Irby is 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: kicked out of a cafe mid photo shoot, and would 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: you give up your wedding venue for David Beckham? But first, 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers has split her audience down the middle when 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: she asks them to help her settle a debate, so 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: she put up a pole asking whether peanut butter is 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: sweet or savory. The pole proved not to help all, 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: with the votes being split fifty to fifty. So I 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: want to know what do you guys think? Is it 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: sweet or savory? I'd say it's savory. I always have 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: peanut butter on toast. 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: To me that savory. 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: I think when you look at your toppings you kind 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: of group together peanut butter and veggiemite. Those two are savory, 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: while your jams and your honeys those are your sweet options. 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: It is interesting, though, because peanut butter is an ingredient 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: in a lot of healthy desserts and also in smoothie bowls, 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: which would be considered sweet, but I look at it 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: as a that kind of clash between sweet and savory. 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, if you have a pizza with the tailer 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: and add some salt. I think it's one of those 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: flavor combinations. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but peanut butter. 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't have sugar in it, so to me, it's savory. 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean nuts are a savory snack. So 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: that's why I think as a standalone, peanut butter is 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent a savory item. 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: What did Olivia think? 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: She didn't actually say what she thought, but I feel 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: like she was trying to sway her audience because she 34 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: shared a photo of squirty peanut butter on top of 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: a smoothie bowel. I think she's actually just only discovered 36 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: squirty peanut butter. I discovered it over a year ago, 37 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed. 38 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: To ye squirty veggimi as well. Does it come into squirt? Yeah? 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think squirt veggiemite would be good 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: because the saying squirt. I think the squirty vegimi would 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: be good because veggimite you have to apply like a 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: tiny bit, You've got to scrape off. I think the 43 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: use of control of it would not be great. Squirting 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: aitella'd be dangerous. That'd be dangerous in my household. For 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: my first Valentine's Day with my partner, he bought me 46 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: a five kilogram tub of Natella, and I thought it'd 47 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: be great because I always get the shit paid out 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: of me for eating a tella with a spoon, Like 49 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: I'd go and get a little snack of Natella. 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: But this thing, because of so much of it. 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: It went moldy so quickly, and all the oil would 52 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: form like around it, and anyway, it was an absolute nightmare. 53 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: How's this for a change of events. 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: We just got kicked out of a local cafe. 55 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Influencer and bikini mogul Karina Irby was recently kicked out 56 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: of a cafe for using the venue as a backdrop 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: for her brand's latest active wear shoot. When I heard 58 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Karina say that she was taking some photos for Instagram, 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: it gave me the impression that maybe one of her 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: friends was snapping some casual. 61 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: Shots of her on her phone. 62 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: However, this was a full blown shoot for her active 63 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: wear brand, which is called Moana Smile Club, so Karina 64 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: had two other models posing alongside, and she had employed 65 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: a professional photographer for the campaign. Now. After Karina got 66 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: asked to leave the cafe, she and her team proceeded 67 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: to take photos on the street in front of some 68 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: very esthetically pleasing houses when a neighbor across the road 69 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: offered them to use their courtyard and pull as a set. 70 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Karina said she was shocked by the active kindness, particularly 71 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: after they were kicked out of the cafe. 72 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: Here's what she said. 73 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: I just think it's so crazy how kindness is just 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: so shocking. 75 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: People that are kind truly just shocked me. But when 76 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: people are nasty olig just want things from you and 77 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: stuff like that, you're like, you're not shocked. But then 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: when people are kind, you're like Now. The kind acts 79 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: continued when an ice cream van spotted the girl's shooting 80 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: and stopped to give them free ice creams, and as 81 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: a thank you and a subtle dig at the cafe, 82 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: Karina and the models posed in front of the ice 83 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: cream van, and Karina even gave them a shout out 84 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: to her one point one million followers. So she tagged 85 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: the ice cream van socials and wrote, we capture this 86 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: because of your kindness and generosity. Thank you for spotting 87 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: us and letting us strike a pose with your business. 88 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: The ice cream and chocolates were so delicious. They then 89 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: wrapped up the sheet with some final snaps at a 90 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: cafe who allowed them to be there with the drink 91 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: of the moment, which is, of course a strawberry matcher. 92 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't understand the shade that Karina is throwing to 93 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 1: this cafe, because firstly, it's not just a casual Instagram shoot, 94 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: as you said, Sophie, this was for her active wear 95 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: campaign where she is profiting from. Surely the most respectful 96 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: thing to do is to ring the cafe beforehand and 97 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: ask if it's okay to take photos, because normally a 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: venue would charge for this type of activity. Normally you 99 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: have to rent out a studio or maybe a house. 100 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm in two minds though, because I can see we 101 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: are coming from Kate, but also, on the other hand, 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I think that this is a missed opportunity for promotion 103 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: because she does have one point one million followers, So 104 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: if the cafe owners had been kind and accommodating to 105 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: her like the ice cream van was, she could have 106 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: given them a shout out. Yeah, but just because you 107 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: have one point one million followers, doesn't mean you can 108 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: just walk into small cafe with a photographer and flash 109 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: and interrupt all of the other people dining. 110 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. 111 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: If she'd actually approach the cafe ahead of time or 112 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: the photographer had, they could have said, okay, we'll work 113 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: out a time when we're a little bit quieter so 114 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: we can accommodate what you need and charged her potentially. Also, 115 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: that is just the way that the influencer world works. 116 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: She may have a million followers, but not everyone is 117 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: going to know who she is, particularly if she hasn't 118 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: communicated what's going on. Also, I think she only gave 119 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: the ice cream van a shout out as a bit 120 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: of a. 121 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: Spiteful move towards the cafe. 122 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: I can see how this would be really disruptive for 123 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: the cafe because if you're already a diner there and 124 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: you see this shoot unfolding, you're probably gonna want to 125 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: wrap up your conversation with a friend and go somewhere else. 126 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: And also, if I'm walking along selecting a cafe to 127 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: go to, I would be very put off because I 128 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be in the background of this. I 129 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: just want to sit down and enjoy myself with people 130 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: watching though well, yeah, maybe just sit at the other 131 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: cafe across from them so you don't have to hear it. 132 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: Also, what's the protocol for Caarina in terms of ordering food? 133 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: Like, was she just nursing a coffee and then thinking 134 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: that she could do this whole photo shoot or was 135 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: the food a part of. 136 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: The photo shoot? Is this giving me flashbacks to your 137 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: baby sprinkle Cake? 138 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Because I brought my camera along to take some photos 139 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: and it was quite a dark venue and I did 140 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: have the flash on it. 141 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: I felt a little bit judged by the people sitting here. 142 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a difference between taking some social photos 143 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: and taking some pictures for a full blown campaign where 144 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: you're selling an active wear brand. 145 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: I do like the fact that she didn't actually name. 146 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: The cafe though, because you know, we touched on last 147 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: week how it can be very detrimental for a small 148 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: business to be named in shame like this. I'm just 149 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: having secondhand embarrassment at the thought of the cafe, you know, 150 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: waitress coming up and being like, I'm sorry, you actually 151 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: can't take these photos. It does remind me of the 152 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: Calisle hotels stance on influences because they do have a 153 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: contract that all guests have to sign saying that they're 154 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: not allowed to use the very esthetically pleasing hotel as 155 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: a backdrop for any paid promotions or product shoots. I 156 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: think it's fair enough considering our conversation earlier in the 157 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: week about that cafe that charged a dollar to heat 158 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: up a muffin, and we did have some cafe owners 159 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: come out on social media and explain that they are 160 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: really feeling the pressure of the cost of living crisis 161 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: just like everyone else is. And I do think it's 162 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: unfair to expect this cafe to provide a free background 163 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: for your photo shoot. Surely Careina would have had some 164 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: money in the budget to actually pay them. 165 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: Azuru announcement. Like I said, we have taken the Instagram 166 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: and the website down. 167 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Currently, Sophie Keisha has revealed she's selling her gender neutral 168 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: makeap brand Atzuru. Speculation was rife that the business was 169 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: under liquidation after its website and Instagram account vanished in 170 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: recent months. The brand has also been putting bundled products 171 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: on sale now. In an interview with The Herald Son, 172 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: Sophie confirmed the news saying myself and my business partners 173 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: simply cannot give it the love it deserves, as we 174 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: both own other companies occupy most of our time, so 175 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: we wanted to go to someone who can help it thrive. 176 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: Really did use this interview as an opportunity to try 177 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: and spook the business, saying it was a brilliant ready 178 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: to go start up with stock, direct manufacturing, relationships, operations, 179 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: and equipment. 180 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: However, she said that. 181 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: They'll be selective of who they sell it to as 182 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: it's one of her babies. 183 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: She also revealed that she'll be sending the. 184 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: Brand off in style with a sale, which seems to 185 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: contradict how she's trying to say this is such an 186 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: wonderful opportunity for someone. If anything, it sounds like you're 187 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of old stock because no one 188 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: wants it. And also to say that you're going to 189 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: be selective of who you sell it to, I think 190 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: you'd be lucky for anyone to buy it, so maybe 191 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: that's just an excuse if. 192 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: No one actually does end up buying it. 193 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: It is interesting that Sophie didn't refer to her business 194 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: partner by name, so Sophie originally launched a Zuru over 195 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: two years ago with controversial influencer and Slick Hair founder 196 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: Mia Plasic, and things turned south very quickly in August 197 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two when it became obvious that the pair 198 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: were so. It all started when Sophie announced Azuru was 199 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: a one woman show after Miya Plastic received backlash for 200 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: publicly equating vaccine mandate. 201 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: Laws to abortion laws. 202 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: Now, at this point, it was believed that Miya was 203 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: no longer involved with the beauty brand, so she removed 204 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: a Zuru from her Instagram bio and also unfollowed the 205 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: Instagram account. Someone also ended up leaking a DM where 206 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: they asked the brand if Miya was still involved, and 207 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: the account replied confirming that Mia was no longer connected 208 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: to a Zuru. She did contradict these claims, though, because 209 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: she released a statement to The Daily Mail Australia saying 210 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: she was still a director of the company and an 211 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: equal shareholder to Sophie. 212 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: So she said, I just took a step. 213 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Back as Slick Hair company is going through huge international 214 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: growth and I need to focus on the brand that 215 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: is growing. 216 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: A bit of a humble brag there, but it's. 217 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Also putting down a zuru because it's implying that that's 218 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: not grow exactly, I mean the downfall of this business. 219 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: It it doesn't really come as a big surprise because 220 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: two years ago it did launch under controversial circumstances. So 221 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: firstly there was the issue of a video of Sophie 222 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: wiping her nose whilst handling the products that did go viral. 223 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 3: It also ended up in a bit. 224 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: Of a stoush between ourselves and Sophie Keisha, which was 225 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: quite a memorable time for the podcast. I feel like 226 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: we've been with this business from the start, so it 227 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: is ironic that we are talking about its closure now. 228 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: It does appear that Meha must still be a part 229 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: owner of this business, because Sophie did reference that both 230 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: of the owners were focusing on their own businesses. Sophie 231 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: did want to make it quite clear also that her 232 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: pajama brand, Kasha, was going from strength to strength, and 233 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: it's also just celebrated its seventh birthday this weekend. However, 234 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: in bad timing, on Tuesday, she took to her Instagram 235 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: story to complain about interest rates. So she revealed that 236 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: she was on the phone to her bank and had 237 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: spoken to two people who couldn't help her. She wrote, 238 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of myself being a single mamma with 239 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: a one salary more which, but holy fuck, these interest 240 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: rates are starting to take a toll. She then went 241 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: on to ask her followers if they had switched from 242 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: her bank and who they went to. Now this is 243 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: off the back of a couple of weeks ago, Sophie 244 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: also sharing that she had done this bulk meat order 245 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: and was cooking up a whole bunch of food to 246 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: try and minimize costs. Now, obviously there's absolutely nothing wrong 247 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: with that, because I think we've got this image of 248 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: influencers not having to struggle, and they don't. They're not 249 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: having to be in the real world like the rest 250 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: of us and compete with interest rates. I think what 251 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: happens is a lot of them do start these businesses 252 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: where there's products involved, and they quickly realize that a 253 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: lot of the money they make from the product then 254 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: goes back into. 255 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: Buying more of it to sell. 256 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: Because we've heard Lily Brown talk about the struggles of 257 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: her pajama business as well, having to keep up with 258 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: demand and also having to reinvest the money back into style, well, 259 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: I think it's just showing that the cost of living 260 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: is taking a toll on everyone, because we do have 261 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: to remember, as Sophie pointed out, she is a single 262 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: mother with two children, and you know, owning your own 263 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: business it does go on ebbs and flows. So when 264 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: Sophie purchased or built her new house, she had a 265 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: partner at the time in Maddie, so they had a 266 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: dual income that was paying that mortgage. And now that 267 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: Sophie finds herself on her own, she might be at 268 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: a different point in her business. She's finding it very difficult, 269 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: I assume being on a variable rate, and I actually 270 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: think it's I take my hat off to her for 271 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: actually speaking about it, because it's a situation that so 272 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: many Australians will be finding themselves in at the moment. Yeah, 273 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: I think it's very relatable that Sophie is opening up 274 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: about this on her Instagram. I do wonder if she 275 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: was a little bit annoyed that the Herald Son ran 276 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: with that story. She obviously provided a comment, but I 277 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: think that they were going to run with it anyway, 278 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: so she felt like she had to say something about 279 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: Azuru going on sale. It's not really the best look, 280 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: because I think she's trying really hard to promote it 281 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: as this decision that was forced upon them because her business, 282 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: Casha and also meoplastics business Slick Hair Company, is doing 283 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: so well that they just don't have time. 284 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: Well, particularly because you're trying to sell this business. 285 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: You're trying to make this business look profitable that someone 286 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: actually wants to purchase it from you. 287 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: But I don't think that's actually the reality. I just't. 288 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it's been successful from the get go. 289 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: It's weird, like some wedding invitation. 290 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: Oh well, congratulations, thank you, Yeah, thank you. 291 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: When's the wedding June? 292 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: It appears it's all steam ahead for Tammy Hembro and 293 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: Matt Zakowski's wedding. Tammy reshared a friend's Instagram story revealing 294 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: Tammy had sent her what appeared to be a wedding invite. Now, 295 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: the envelope looked elegant with a black boat tied on 296 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: the back, and this ties into the theme that I 297 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: have been suspecting for quite a while. Now. I think 298 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: the whole thing will be a black and white affair. 299 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: It's very heels because when Tammy went to try on 300 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: wedding dresses. Her bride'smaids were in black, and she also 301 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: they were in little black little robes, which I think 302 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: that they'll be wearing black bride'smaid dresses, and I think 303 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: that all of the flowers be white and will be 304 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: that contrast. I was just surprised to see that the 305 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: wedding invite were out, particularly after all the shit that's 306 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: gone down recently. 307 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: I thought they might have put the brakes. 308 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: On it a little bit away because they want to 309 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: prove to everyone just how solid they are. And they 310 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: have also previously said on Matt's podcast that the wedding 311 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: will be happening this year, so I mean we are 312 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: six months into this year already, so we'll be seeing. 313 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: This wedding very soon. 314 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: And it was now that Anna's wedding is over, I 315 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: feel like that's given them the green light to actually 316 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: start inviting people. Surely this wedding must be soon, because 317 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: normally you get your wedding invites out. I think it's 318 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: like four months before the big date. I mean, these 319 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: possibly could be a save the date if it is 320 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: a destination wedding. I said mine out six months in advance, 321 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: and I think it was almost too early because I 322 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: had to follow up a few people being like are 323 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: you coming? But ours was a long weekend, so I 324 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: was very paranoid that people would make plans. Yeah. Well, 325 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: on the topic of Tammy, it was really great to 326 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: see her attend the Gold Coast Sons MND Big Freeze event. 327 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: So she was a really good sport and allowed herself 328 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: to be dunked in to the ice bath and she 329 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: actually shared that a close friend's step dad sadly passed 330 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: away from MND. And my favorite part of this event 331 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: was seeing Tammy kick a football, so she was actually 332 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: quite good, but then she absolutely sprayed one and it 333 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: went into the crowd. Even though Tammy is really athletic, 334 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that she's not great at kicking a 335 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: football because she said that the game on the weekend 336 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: was the first football game she's ever been to because 337 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: the Gold Coast Sons versus Matt's team, which is Essendon, 338 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: and it was. 339 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: Really cute because Wolf looked like he had the best time. 340 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: So Tammy put up a photo and said he actually 341 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: asked me to take this photo of him, and look 342 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: how happy he is, so I think he's enjoying having 343 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: that male father figure in his life to take him. 344 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: Talking about Wolf, Tammy actually shared this TikTok video the 345 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: other day where he featured in it, and she was 346 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: saying for all of the kids and her to say 347 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: something that was true about themselves. However, she kept saying 348 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: things that weren't true that she knew the kids would 349 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: react to. Anyway, everyone picked up on the fact that 350 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Wolf has a very English accent. 351 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: Have you guys noticed it? 352 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: He does? 353 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: I have noticed it. 354 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: He talks very proper. Yeah, Everyone's like, where has his 355 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: accent come from? Because he doesn't sound like any member 356 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: of the family. Hasn't Everyone been saying that in the 357 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: US and in the UK that all the kids are 358 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: getting Ossie accents because of Bluey. Is it? Maybe? Isn't 359 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: Isn't it the reverse with Pepper Pig where some of 360 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: the Ossie kids are getting UK accents. 361 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't put him down as a Pepper Pig fan, 362 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: to be honest. 363 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: Does anyone use this kitchen? It looks like the Weben 364 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: news I was cooking here last night. Dude. It's like, 365 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: I know it's pretty clean because I clean it so well. 366 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: Would you guys give up your wedding venue for David 367 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: Beckham because this is one dilemma a couple in the 368 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: UK is facing. So David is set to celebrate his 369 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: fiftieth birthday next year and he has fallen in love 370 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: with iconic Scottish venue, Glen Eagles. The snag is a 371 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: couple have their dream wedding booked in for that day. 372 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: He has a thing about castles, doesn't he, Because he 373 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: and Victoria Beckham got married in a castle. Is he 374 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: trying to recreate that because that was a very iconic celebration. 375 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: Surely there's lots of castles available in the UK that 376 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: he could be using. What's so special about this one? 377 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: I think it has something to do with the venue 378 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: being a golfing destination. So it has won various awards 379 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: including Ultra Travel Magazine's Best Golf Resort in the World, 380 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: and David Beckham loves playing golf, It's a hobby of his. Well. 381 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: The rumor is that he. 382 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: Has made a huge offer to this couple. So one 383 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: of the couple's friends took to Twitter and said a 384 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: friend of a friend is getting married at Glen Eagles 385 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: next year, but David Beckham wants the date for his 386 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: fiftieth so to get the friend to move it so 387 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: he can have the hotel. Glen Eagles are paying for 388 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: their new wedding date, honeymoon and paying off the mortgage 389 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: the power of beck So a lot of people have 390 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: come to the assumption that it's not actually Glenn Eagles 391 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: that are paying off this couple's mortgage and for their honeymoon, 392 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: it's David Beckham. So, Sophie, if you were a year 393 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: out from your wedding and David Beckham wanted to steal 394 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: the venue from you, what would you do. 395 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: I think it would really depend on the next available date. 396 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: So if your date has been put out by a 397 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, yeah, of course, of course you would 398 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: take up this opportunity. Whereas if this meant that your 399 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: wedding wasn't going to be for another year or two years, 400 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: I think that that would then become more of an issue. 401 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: Do you know what's really important to me having my 402 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: mortgage paid off and having financial freedom. So I'd be 403 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: happy to downsize my wedding in order to have my 404 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: mortgage and also my wedding and honeymoon paid for. 405 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: No, I mean I would probably take this opportunity. 406 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: But I'm saying for some people, if they've got a 407 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: special association with the venue, or if there's other reasons 408 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: for them wanting to get married straight away, it might 409 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: be an issue. 410 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: But there's so many other wedding venues around. 411 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: The place, like, yeah, but it's hard to get into them. 412 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: There's not just dates available. Look, I would make it work. 413 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the couple who were a week 414 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: before or a week after, because I wonder if they're like, 415 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: for fuck's sake, we would have given it up. I'd 416 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: be reaching out to Becks and being like, look, I 417 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: know it's not the exact date that you want, but 418 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: it's pretty close. I wonder how this couple have responded, 419 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: because he could find himself in a situation where there's 420 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: an absolute bride zilla who was not willing to budge 421 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: for anyone like that is a genuine possibility, And I 422 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: wonder if they have just asked them nicely, hey, do 423 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: you mind changing because we've got this big event coming 424 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: up and they are playing hard ball and they've heard 425 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: that David Beckham is involved and they're trying to take 426 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: him for all his worth. 427 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, what else could they get out of old becks. 428 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: I think I would play Yeah, I think I'd be like, 429 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: what else? 430 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: What else can I have? 431 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: The mortgage is pretty good. I mean if you look 432 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: at it from a pr perspective. For David Beckham, this 433 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: story could have gone one or two ways. He had 434 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: to offer them a lot in order to get this 435 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: because if he had just said, oh, look, I'll cover 436 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: the cost of your wedding and that's it, people would 437 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: have been like, how dare this big celebrity come in 438 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: and ruin this couple's wedding day. But because he's also 439 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: saying pay for your honeymoon, I'll pay for your mortgage. 440 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: I'll basically set you up for life, Everyone's like, wow, 441 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: look at this robin hood who's stealing the venue. 442 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: But then he's giving back to the poor. 443 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure of his brotherhood. Let's get into our 444 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: highs and lows of the week. I will kick us 445 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: off first. I'll start with my low. 446 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: Last week. 447 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't on the podcast, and that was because I 448 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: was intending to record with you guys. But I had 449 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: a bit of a scare at my midwife appointment. So 450 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: everything is all good, but essentially I had my midwife appointment, 451 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: and every appointment they take your blood pressure, and they 452 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: flagged that mine was a little bit high. So they 453 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: checked it a couple more times and we're like, hang on, no, 454 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, You're going to have to go up to 455 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: the observation ward. They ended up doing a urine test 456 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: and also a blood test, and they flagged with me 457 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: that the protein in my urine was really high and 458 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: that is a sign of pre clamps here. So I 459 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: was absolutely freaking out. I'm sitting on a hospital bed, 460 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: clipped up to this machine that's checking the baby's heart, 461 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: and I was trying not to freak out, but I 462 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: am the biggest hypochondriac. 463 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm very health anxious. 464 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: My partner was sitting next to me, cool as a cucumber, 465 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: and I've just convinced my that I've got preclamps here. 466 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: I've called you guys, you're all freaking out. And also, 467 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: because I at the time was thirty six and a 468 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: half weeks, I thought that they might make me deliver 469 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: the baby that day if I did have. 470 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: It, yeah, okay. 471 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: And in the meantime, Sophie was freaking out because, as 472 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: some of the listeners might have seen, we held a 473 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: surprise baby sprinkle for Cain. 474 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: I'm hoping that day. 475 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that this is Kate's high that she's about 476 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: to lead into. Because I was distraught, I had everything 477 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: ready to pick up. On the Friday, I was at 478 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: the shop getting a balloon blown up for you, and 479 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: I thought, well, if the party doesn't go ahead, you'll 480 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: still need this balloon, which I literally got ship thing 481 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: because I couldn't get this Poohbair balloon anywhere. I had 482 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: to get it online and I was like, well, I 483 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: can bring it down to the hospital. We could bring 484 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: the cake down to the hospital as more of a 485 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: celebration of the baby being here. 486 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 487 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: So fortunately, after waiting three hours, I got the news 488 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: that in fact I did not have preclamps here, which 489 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: I am so thankful for. It turned out that the 490 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: dipstick that they put in my urine, I don't know 491 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: I had flagged it incorrectly. Anyway, So as you already 492 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: touched on my high for the week, was the surprise 493 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: baby sprinkle that you help me? Now. We did have 494 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: a few people asked because I posted a reel of 495 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: this event and someone's like, what is a baby sprinkle? 496 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: So it's a celebration that's not as big as a shower, 497 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: because I did have my own shower. Well, I thought 498 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: sprinkle differentiated it between the event that you already had 499 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: to say I was surprised, as a complete understatement, because 500 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: you guys got rees involved. 501 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: I think it was a week ago. 502 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: He said to me, Oh, I'd really like to take 503 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: you out Saturday night, so the least I can do 504 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: for the nine months that you've been through. 505 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: And I was like, that is so sweet, and he 506 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: really played the part. 507 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: He was putting on alf the shaves, holding my hand 508 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: in the car like being a romantic. So I get 509 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: to the restaurant and I walked up to the counter. 510 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: And it's funny because he said that the restaurant was 511 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: a surprise, and when we pulled up, it was a 512 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: restaurant soview that you really liked, called Whole And I go, oh, 513 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: this is funny. This is the place so Fhew loves. 514 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: She's going to be jealous that we're here. Anyway, I 515 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: walked in, I completely didn't see you guys sitting in 516 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: the corner with big poob air balloon, all of these 517 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: beautiful decorations. We'd gone to the effort of even parking 518 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: our cars around the corner, because we thought if you 519 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: pull up and you see our cars out the front, 520 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty obvious what's going on. I 521 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: was just in absolute shock, like I don't think it's 522 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: sunk in the whole night, and you guys did such 523 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: a good job. It just looked so beautiful. The cake 524 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: was gorgeous, the cookies were gorgeous. I was like, this 525 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: is better than my own baby shower. My favorite thing 526 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: also was that Amy. Then we all went back to 527 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: her house and you'd thought of everything. You even got 528 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: me a tracksuit. So you got me men's medium pants 529 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: and this oversized hoodie and I've been living in it 530 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: ever since. I've actually been sleeping in those pants. You 531 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: can't pry them from my body. Good old Kama men's hoodies. 532 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: So officially, thank you so much for holding that for me. 533 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: That is where ever going to leave things today. If 534 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: you do enjoy the podcast, we do drop a bonus 535 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: episode every Thursday just for subscribers. If you're not yet 536 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: an Outspoken Plus subscriber. 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