1 00:00:09,685 --> 00:00:12,485 Speaker 1: iHeart podcasts. You can hear more Gold one I four 2 00:00:12,485 --> 00:00:15,965 Speaker 1: point three podcast playlist and listen live on the free 3 00:00:16,165 --> 00:00:19,044 Speaker 1: iHeart app Got anything good? 4 00:00:19,645 --> 00:00:21,165 Speaker 2: Hey, this is. 5 00:00:21,204 --> 00:00:28,885 Speaker 1: The Christian O'Connell show podcast this month obviously it's the 6 00:00:28,925 --> 00:00:32,485 Speaker 1: Australian Grand Prix in Melbourne and joining us now someone's 7 00:00:32,525 --> 00:00:35,565 Speaker 1: gonna be coming to Australia on a speaking tour. He 8 00:00:35,685 --> 00:00:40,085 Speaker 1: is a Formula one legend, Christian Horner. He transformed Team 9 00:00:40,205 --> 00:00:42,565 Speaker 1: Red Bull into one of the most successful teams on 10 00:00:42,604 --> 00:00:45,084 Speaker 1: the planet and was in charge of Ossie legends like 11 00:00:45,165 --> 00:00:49,284 Speaker 1: Daniel Ricardo and Mark Webber. Plus he also happens to 12 00:00:49,324 --> 00:00:52,725 Speaker 1: be married to a spice girl, not just any spice girl, 13 00:00:52,885 --> 00:00:56,765 Speaker 1: Ginger Spices. Jerry Halliwell. Christian Horner is joining the show 14 00:00:56,885 --> 00:00:59,764 Speaker 1: live now. Christian, thank you very much for joining us now. 15 00:00:59,805 --> 00:01:02,165 Speaker 1: One of the biggest documentaries in the world. You're a 16 00:01:02,205 --> 00:01:05,365 Speaker 1: big part of it. Drive to Survive about F one? 17 00:01:05,965 --> 00:01:08,645 Speaker 1: Is that a pain in the backside camera cruise following 18 00:01:08,685 --> 00:01:11,085 Speaker 1: you and Jerry Halliwell everywhere? 19 00:01:11,525 --> 00:01:14,645 Speaker 3: To be honest, you sort of there's so many cameras 20 00:01:14,645 --> 00:01:17,005 Speaker 3: around it for more and you forget who which one 21 00:01:17,085 --> 00:01:20,565 Speaker 3: is which, and these guys become embedded with the teams 22 00:01:20,685 --> 00:01:24,925 Speaker 3: or for a weekend and they just record hours and 23 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:27,765 Speaker 3: hours and hours of content and they're looking for all 24 00:01:27,805 --> 00:01:30,245 Speaker 3: the juicy bits and the dramatic bits. 25 00:01:30,285 --> 00:01:32,485 Speaker 1: And do you ever watch it back with Jerry when 26 00:01:32,525 --> 00:01:34,685 Speaker 1: you're like, my god, they've already cast you. Because sometimes 27 00:01:34,725 --> 00:01:36,965 Speaker 1: your cast is this kind of British kind of almost 28 00:01:36,965 --> 00:01:38,445 Speaker 1: like a James Bond baddie in it. 29 00:01:38,685 --> 00:01:40,965 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that sometimes you're the hero, sometimes you're 30 00:01:41,005 --> 00:01:43,205 Speaker 3: the villain. You know. Jerry often tells me, well, look, 31 00:01:43,205 --> 00:01:47,925 Speaker 3: it's like the Kardashians on wheels, so you know, they're 32 00:01:47,925 --> 00:01:50,965 Speaker 3: making a TV show and as I say, they love 33 00:01:51,485 --> 00:01:54,645 Speaker 3: any drama they can capture. 34 00:01:54,965 --> 00:01:57,685 Speaker 1: And what do you like on race day? Because having 35 00:01:57,725 --> 00:01:59,965 Speaker 1: interviewed lots of athletes over the years, a lot of 36 00:01:59,965 --> 00:02:03,165 Speaker 1: them are very very superstitious. You have certain things, you 37 00:02:03,165 --> 00:02:05,445 Speaker 1: always eat, the same thing, where the same thing. What 38 00:02:05,605 --> 00:02:06,165 Speaker 1: is it for you? 39 00:02:06,525 --> 00:02:10,405 Speaker 2: I suppose there weren't as much rituals as they were 40 00:02:10,445 --> 00:02:14,725 Speaker 2: superstitions that you know, I'd always you know, shake the 41 00:02:14,805 --> 00:02:17,765 Speaker 2: driver's hands before the start of the race from the 42 00:02:17,845 --> 00:02:18,965 Speaker 2: right hand side. 43 00:02:18,685 --> 00:02:21,845 Speaker 3: Of the car. You know, I had, you know, lucky clothing, 44 00:02:21,885 --> 00:02:24,765 Speaker 3: I had you know, lucky socks. I had, you know, 45 00:02:24,885 --> 00:02:27,645 Speaker 3: a lucky toilet at each Gorn Prix. I'd nominate one 46 00:02:27,725 --> 00:02:32,525 Speaker 3: loop that would be the loo for the weekend, you know, 47 00:02:32,525 --> 00:02:34,445 Speaker 3: which is kind of embarrassing if all the others are 48 00:02:34,485 --> 00:02:37,365 Speaker 3: free and you're standing in Brazil waiting for this one 49 00:02:37,405 --> 00:02:42,044 Speaker 3: particular toilet. So, yeah, you get these I think rituals 50 00:02:41,805 --> 00:02:43,925 Speaker 3: that where I stood in the garage to watch the 51 00:02:43,965 --> 00:02:46,325 Speaker 3: start of the race, you know, all those types of 52 00:02:46,365 --> 00:02:49,045 Speaker 3: things were they were just little rituals that helped you 53 00:02:49,085 --> 00:02:51,365 Speaker 3: get in the frame of mind and get in the 54 00:02:51,485 --> 00:02:52,205 Speaker 3: zone for the race. 55 00:02:52,685 --> 00:02:55,285 Speaker 1: That's incredible. I'm now worried about you know what happened 56 00:02:55,285 --> 00:02:57,885 Speaker 1: if suddenly the lucky socks had been washed, you know 57 00:02:58,045 --> 00:03:00,005 Speaker 1: they weren't there. That's the stuff that can ruin your 58 00:03:00,125 --> 00:03:01,885 Speaker 1: your preparation kind of you know what. 59 00:03:02,325 --> 00:03:07,725 Speaker 3: That was absolutely a no go. So, you know, the 60 00:03:07,805 --> 00:03:10,445 Speaker 3: lucky underwear I had to be packed and I got 61 00:03:10,525 --> 00:03:14,045 Speaker 3: qualifying underwear and race day underwear, and as they got 62 00:03:14,245 --> 00:03:16,965 Speaker 3: worn out, they sometimes you know, get patched up. 63 00:03:17,245 --> 00:03:19,405 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can't buy just brand new ones, they 64 00:03:19,445 --> 00:03:22,885 Speaker 1: won't have the same power. Absolutely with all the f 65 00:03:22,965 --> 00:03:27,565 Speaker 1: one merchandise. You should bring out your own range of underwear. 66 00:03:28,445 --> 00:03:32,445 Speaker 1: You know, qualifiers race day, you could make even more 67 00:03:32,485 --> 00:03:33,204 Speaker 1: money that way. 68 00:03:34,045 --> 00:03:35,725 Speaker 3: There you go, you're giving me ideas. 69 00:03:35,805 --> 00:03:37,925 Speaker 1: Hey, when you come back to the sport, have you 70 00:03:38,005 --> 00:03:40,845 Speaker 1: a range of underwear? Tell me have you done much? 71 00:03:41,045 --> 00:03:42,885 Speaker 1: I know you've obviously been a keynote speaking before, but 72 00:03:42,925 --> 00:03:45,405 Speaker 1: actually going around the world people paying to come and 73 00:03:45,485 --> 00:03:48,965 Speaker 1: see you. Are you excited about are you nervous by it? Yeah? 74 00:03:49,005 --> 00:03:51,085 Speaker 3: I could have everything. To be honest with you, I mean, 75 00:03:51,125 --> 00:03:53,285 Speaker 3: I think it's a great moment for me to reflect on, 76 00:03:53,765 --> 00:03:57,365 Speaker 3: you know, my time informal one that's covered such a 77 00:03:57,485 --> 00:03:59,325 Speaker 3: vast period of time when I came into the sport 78 00:03:59,365 --> 00:04:03,045 Speaker 3: with some of the trials and tribulations, the pressures, you know, 79 00:04:03,165 --> 00:04:06,485 Speaker 3: and really lifting the lid on some of you know, 80 00:04:06,805 --> 00:04:09,245 Speaker 3: those key moments during the last twenty one years and 81 00:04:09,725 --> 00:04:12,925 Speaker 3: coming to Australia, I've only ever had a very short 82 00:04:12,925 --> 00:04:15,245 Speaker 3: period of time there literally in and out for the 83 00:04:15,285 --> 00:04:18,965 Speaker 3: Grand Prix. So to have a little more time without 84 00:04:19,005 --> 00:04:22,364 Speaker 3: the pressure of a Grand Prix weekend, they've been the 85 00:04:22,404 --> 00:04:26,485 Speaker 3: most amazing fans. Australian fans are truly truly different. They're 86 00:04:26,525 --> 00:04:30,204 Speaker 3: so knowledgeable, they're so passionate and of course, being fortunate 87 00:04:30,245 --> 00:04:32,884 Speaker 3: to have had a couple of Australian drivers over the 88 00:04:33,125 --> 00:04:36,044 Speaker 3: over the years, in Mark Weber and Daniel Ricardo. You know, 89 00:04:36,085 --> 00:04:39,085 Speaker 3: it's been great to support that we had, you know, 90 00:04:39,245 --> 00:04:40,565 Speaker 3: received over those years. 91 00:04:40,804 --> 00:04:43,205 Speaker 1: And then tell us about in this country. Obviously there's 92 00:04:43,205 --> 00:04:45,924 Speaker 1: so much love for Daniel Ricardo and you had a 93 00:04:46,085 --> 00:04:49,245 Speaker 1: very you had a very unique relationship with him. Tell 94 00:04:49,284 --> 00:04:50,725 Speaker 1: us about that. 95 00:04:50,844 --> 00:04:52,925 Speaker 3: Daniel's just a great guy. He you know, he lights 96 00:04:53,005 --> 00:04:55,444 Speaker 3: up a room when he walks in it. He's a 97 00:04:55,565 --> 00:04:59,805 Speaker 3: big personality, He's got a big heart, very sensitive guy. 98 00:05:00,245 --> 00:05:03,444 Speaker 3: I just clicked with him, and you know, he was 99 00:05:03,885 --> 00:05:07,964 Speaker 3: a wonderful driver and unfortunately the car at the time 100 00:05:08,005 --> 00:05:10,325 Speaker 3: where he was at his peak, we didn't have the 101 00:05:10,325 --> 00:05:13,645 Speaker 3: most competitive car on the grid and I think if 102 00:05:13,645 --> 00:05:15,444 Speaker 3: we had, he could have been a world champion. But 103 00:05:16,525 --> 00:05:20,085 Speaker 3: a great guy, and yeah, I think the sport missus Daniel. 104 00:05:20,284 --> 00:05:22,284 Speaker 3: You know, he was such a you know that smile. 105 00:05:22,604 --> 00:05:24,804 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a great singer as well. You know, 106 00:05:24,885 --> 00:05:28,285 Speaker 3: I'd always have a party after the Silverstone Race and 107 00:05:29,604 --> 00:05:35,044 Speaker 3: his rendition of wagon will was was legendary. So in 108 00:05:35,085 --> 00:05:37,325 Speaker 3: fact I made him sing it that a Christmas party wants, 109 00:05:37,964 --> 00:05:40,805 Speaker 3: which he never forgave me for but yeah, just a 110 00:05:40,844 --> 00:05:42,725 Speaker 3: big personality, a lot of charisma. 111 00:05:43,005 --> 00:05:45,964 Speaker 1: Now tell me this. Watching the Netflix documentary, I said 112 00:05:45,964 --> 00:05:48,164 Speaker 1: in wifeh my god, what a job Christian's got. You know, 113 00:05:48,205 --> 00:05:51,885 Speaker 1: You've got all that power, all that control, all those decisions. 114 00:05:52,404 --> 00:05:55,604 Speaker 1: And then Jerry comes on screen and my wife goes yeah. 115 00:05:55,685 --> 00:05:58,885 Speaker 1: And then when he gets home, she's the boss. And 116 00:05:59,325 --> 00:06:02,724 Speaker 1: any married guy that says otherwise, I think is a lie? 117 00:06:02,844 --> 00:06:05,645 Speaker 1: Is it at home? Everything that you have, all that 118 00:06:05,724 --> 00:06:09,125 Speaker 1: power control that's out in the other world, At home, 119 00:06:09,964 --> 00:06:11,364 Speaker 1: you're you're just Christian. 120 00:06:11,604 --> 00:06:12,604 Speaker 3: No, that's exactly it. 121 00:06:12,724 --> 00:06:14,605 Speaker 2: You know, at home, I'm just Christian. 122 00:06:14,685 --> 00:06:17,804 Speaker 3: She's just Jerry, and you know her husband and wife 123 00:06:17,885 --> 00:06:22,525 Speaker 3: and of course you know she's always right. We have 124 00:06:22,645 --> 00:06:26,205 Speaker 3: a great relationship. She's been my biggest supporter. But she'll 125 00:06:26,245 --> 00:06:29,324 Speaker 3: also call you out if she thinks, you know, something's 126 00:06:29,645 --> 00:06:32,164 Speaker 3: not right. And you know, she's the first to tell me, look, 127 00:06:32,525 --> 00:06:34,525 Speaker 3: a pad on the back is six inches from a 128 00:06:34,604 --> 00:06:39,365 Speaker 3: kick up the ass. So yeah, you know, she's been 129 00:06:39,404 --> 00:06:43,445 Speaker 3: phenomenal and at home, yeah, you know, she's definitely the boss. 130 00:06:43,685 --> 00:06:45,925 Speaker 1: And tell me that she must talk about work at home. 131 00:06:46,044 --> 00:06:47,684 Speaker 1: Over the years, she must be that's no, no, you 132 00:06:47,724 --> 00:06:49,525 Speaker 1: can't be doing that. You want to hire them or 133 00:06:49,724 --> 00:06:51,004 Speaker 1: watch out for that person. 134 00:06:51,565 --> 00:06:55,604 Speaker 3: Look, she's fantastic in respect because the person that you 135 00:06:55,604 --> 00:06:57,844 Speaker 3: share the most with is your partner. What you take home, 136 00:06:58,364 --> 00:07:01,484 Speaker 3: you know, you share. And I remember during some of 137 00:07:01,525 --> 00:07:04,964 Speaker 3: the COVID period, I was interviewing people for the new 138 00:07:05,005 --> 00:07:08,845 Speaker 3: engine project that's running in the back of the the 139 00:07:08,885 --> 00:07:12,765 Speaker 3: red Bull car you know, debuted last week, and there 140 00:07:12,804 --> 00:07:14,925 Speaker 3: was one guy that I really wanted to get. Anyway, 141 00:07:14,965 --> 00:07:16,605 Speaker 3: she brought in a cup of coffee and I could 142 00:07:16,645 --> 00:07:18,885 Speaker 3: see that he was kind of, you know, surprised that 143 00:07:19,445 --> 00:07:23,845 Speaker 3: he was Ginger spy springing in coffee for us. Anyway, 144 00:07:23,845 --> 00:07:25,804 Speaker 3: he said, oh, I'm a musician. She said, oh, what 145 00:07:25,804 --> 00:07:27,725 Speaker 3: are you doing? He said, I play the guitar. So 146 00:07:27,765 --> 00:07:31,204 Speaker 3: she turned up five minutes later with a guitar and said, 147 00:07:31,804 --> 00:07:34,165 Speaker 3: play to me. So this guy has come for a 148 00:07:34,245 --> 00:07:38,205 Speaker 3: job interview ended up singing Iranian love songs. You know, 149 00:07:38,325 --> 00:07:41,845 Speaker 3: Jerry is listening to him sing, and sure enough, he 150 00:07:42,005 --> 00:07:43,845 Speaker 3: signed from Mercedes the next day. 151 00:07:45,525 --> 00:07:48,004 Speaker 1: Now, obviously you're going to come back someone like you. 152 00:07:48,405 --> 00:07:50,765 Speaker 1: There's no way you just walk away from the sport. 153 00:07:50,804 --> 00:07:52,965 Speaker 1: I get the fin in this unfinished business. And when 154 00:07:53,005 --> 00:07:54,804 Speaker 1: you come on you're speaking tour, I think the biggest 155 00:07:54,845 --> 00:07:56,965 Speaker 1: question you're going to get asked everywhere is that are 156 00:07:57,005 --> 00:08:00,445 Speaker 1: you coming back? What can you say at the moment, Christian, Well, look, 157 00:08:01,005 --> 00:08:01,605 Speaker 1: I can't. 158 00:08:01,364 --> 00:08:04,725 Speaker 3: Do anything before you know later in the spring. If 159 00:08:04,725 --> 00:08:07,485 Speaker 3: I were to comeback, it would have to be for 160 00:08:08,085 --> 00:08:11,285 Speaker 3: something that was with a like minded group of people. 161 00:08:11,885 --> 00:08:13,845 Speaker 3: I wouldn't come back just to take part. I'd want 162 00:08:13,845 --> 00:08:16,845 Speaker 3: to win. I wouldn't want to do it just as 163 00:08:16,845 --> 00:08:20,725 Speaker 3: an employee anymore. So I'm not in any rush. I'm 164 00:08:20,725 --> 00:08:23,564 Speaker 3: going to take this time to reflect on my career 165 00:08:23,885 --> 00:08:26,645 Speaker 3: and spend time with my family and think about what 166 00:08:26,685 --> 00:08:27,285 Speaker 3: comes next. 167 00:08:27,645 --> 00:08:29,285 Speaker 1: Brilliant, Well, I'm looking forward to seeing you when you 168 00:08:29,325 --> 00:08:32,565 Speaker 1: come to Melbourne on the speaking tour. I think you'll 169 00:08:32,645 --> 00:08:34,725 Speaker 1: enjoy it a lot. I think you're a fantastic time 170 00:08:34,885 --> 00:08:37,325 Speaker 1: in the country as well, and Christian, well done and 171 00:08:37,365 --> 00:08:39,845 Speaker 1: all your very well deserved success as well. I think 172 00:08:39,885 --> 00:08:42,125 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't get quite the credit you deserve, but 173 00:08:42,564 --> 00:08:45,844 Speaker 1: it's an extraordinary achievement that will be around for a 174 00:08:45,925 --> 00:08:46,565 Speaker 1: very long time. 175 00:08:46,645 --> 00:08:49,845 Speaker 3: Well done, that's very kind and yeah, I'm looking forward 176 00:08:49,925 --> 00:08:53,925 Speaker 3: to coming down to Melbourne. Sydney in Perth. It's a 177 00:08:53,925 --> 00:08:56,525 Speaker 3: great country, great people, and yeah, I'm looking. 178 00:08:56,365 --> 00:08:58,204 Speaker 1: Forward to it all right, thanks for talking to us, Christian. 179 00:08:58,204 --> 00:08:58,804 Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. 180 00:08:58,885 --> 00:09:02,484 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much. Indeed, The Christian O'Connell 181 00:09:02,525 --> 00:09:03,684 Speaker 3: Show podcast