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Speaker 1: Job mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: It's been an interesting journey for our next guest, Anthony Sharwoo.

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Speaker 2: He's a walk They Award winning journal who quit his

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Speaker 2: job as a successful sports reporter to go trekking through

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Speaker 2: the Australian Alps. Started in a blizzard, ended in a blaze.

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Speaker 2: He's written a book called From Snow to Ash and

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Speaker 2: he joins us, Now, Hey, Anthony, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Amanda? I'm so well. How are you Jonesy?

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Speaker 4: I'm very well, Thanks Anthony. I was reading your book

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Speaker 4: it's and I was as I started to read, I said,

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Speaker 4: what are you mental? Why would you do this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good question. Look, I love the Australian Outs

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's a great part of Australia to me,

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Speaker 3: it's as you know, sort of iconic as a great

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Speaker 3: barrier refall anywhere you want to name. And I didn't

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Speaker 3: just want to go there for a stay holiday or

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Speaker 3: for a weekend high visit the trial that goes more

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Speaker 3: or less from Melbourne to more or less to Canberra

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Speaker 3: call the Australian Oups walking Track, and I sort of

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Speaker 3: went Buggerant, I'm going did a whole tack all seven

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Speaker 3: hundred per se of it, and I should say I

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Speaker 3: earned some serious marital brownie points first before my wife

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Speaker 3: let me take off and leaves they were the kids.

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Speaker 2: How long did it take, Well, it would.

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Speaker 3: Have taken five or six weeks, but it only I

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Speaker 3: only got about four and a half five weeks done

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Speaker 3: because the fires came. And you know, the fires were

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Speaker 3: everywhere last summer, but they weren't in the app they

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Speaker 3: weren't around forred, but they weren't you in the high

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Speaker 3: country of Victoria until they were right at the end

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Speaker 3: of my hike. And you know, without giving too much away,

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Speaker 3: I was top it out. It's a pretty good story.

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Speaker 4: Actually, Well, then that part where you're talking about the

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Speaker 4: leaves falling from the sky and you're thinking, well are

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Speaker 4: they snow gum leaves or they are the leaves and

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Speaker 4: you're feeling and they well they're cold, and we're getting

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Speaker 4: this around my home. There were leaves falling out of

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Speaker 4: the sky, so you think he is the fire near me.

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Speaker 4: But you're in pretty much a forest more or less,

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Speaker 4: so not the ideal place to be, No I was.

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Speaker 3: I was in the snow gum country and well, you know,

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Speaker 3: one of the awesome things about the track that I

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Speaker 3: did was, you know, I, like you, like most people listening,

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Speaker 3: I'm on a vice twenty four to seven, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm totally digitally connected to the world

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Speaker 3: all the time for work, for leisure, and I pretty

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Speaker 3: much put everything down. And while I did have my

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Speaker 3: phone on the trip and I could get reception in

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Speaker 3: places and look at the fires, apps and look at

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Speaker 3: what's happening, you know, at times you just had to

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Speaker 3: read the world around you. And that was one really

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Speaker 3: good example. Like the leaves that were falling from the

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Speaker 3: sky were black and it was eerie, but there was

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Speaker 3: no fires near me, and they wanted snowgum leaves because

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Speaker 3: snowgum leaves have a special look. So you sort of

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Speaker 3: have to know the outdoors and use your gut and

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Speaker 3: use your knowledge rather than using your phone. And that

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Speaker 3: was pretty refreshing. And you know, bottom line though, is

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Speaker 3: that even though they were leads from a long way away,

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Speaker 3: that the fire from a long way away came to

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Speaker 3: where I was very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Brumbies. This is quite a controversial debate,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. About the Brumbies in Kausiosco National Park, the

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Speaker 2: damage they're doing and the fight to save them. What

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Speaker 2: did you see?

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Speaker 3: What I saw was quite a lot of landscape that

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Speaker 3: had been trampled by these and a lot of rears

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Speaker 3: and a lot of creeks that have been turned muddy.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I used to take my kids to

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Speaker 3: see the bumbies when I went to the mountain. Say,

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Speaker 3: come on, guys, going to see the bumbies. And there's

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Speaker 3: nothing more beautiful than wildhorses. And you know, you've probably

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Speaker 3: played twenty different songs on WSFM this week about wildforce

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Speaker 3: because there's a lot of them. But they're terrific. But

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Speaker 3: there's no doubt they're doing damage because of oscore. They're

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Speaker 3: really trampling a lot of a lot of wildlife, a

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Speaker 3: lot of habitats of wildlife made, and they're completely pooping

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Speaker 3: is fragile. It's delicate. To me, it's like it's like

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Speaker 3: a giant fish is eating all the coral on the receave.

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Speaker 3: We've got to cut down the numbers and sort of

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Speaker 3: keep some for people who love them, but we've got

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Speaker 3: to cut down the numbers. That's my view.

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Speaker 4: They say, they're in plague proportions. So what do they

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Speaker 4: do do They just shoot them and they've got to

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Speaker 4: get rid of them.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you do?

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Speaker 3: Well, you try to rehome them first. They're doing some

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Speaker 3: trapping at the moment, just in some fire affected areas.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if everyone out there on Facebook, Jonesy,

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Speaker 3: who professed to love brummies as much as I do,

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Speaker 3: just rehomed one or told someone who has a property

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Speaker 3: to rehome one, we solve this problem a lot quicker

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Speaker 3: because they're not being shot at the moment, and there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of resistance to that. But there are too many,

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Speaker 3: so something's got to give.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting you say that people from Australia travel to

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Speaker 2: America to the Appalachian Trail, to the Midford Track in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. No, people don't seem to know about this

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Speaker 2: in the Australian apps.

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Speaker 3: The Australias walking tracks are really hard track. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: go through any towns or any settlements. And I've written

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Speaker 3: about that in the book From so to Ash. I've

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Speaker 3: written about sort of how hard it is.

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Speaker 1: And you know, who just wanted to do one little

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Speaker 1: mini expedition in my life Amanda, I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: bite off more than I could see, just just to

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Speaker 1: try that feeling as a suburban dad to do what

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Speaker 1: these people in the news do, you know. And it

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Speaker 1: was a good feeling, and you know, I had some

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Speaker 1: successes and some failings. But yeah, until there are more

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Speaker 1: resources along the track, it'll ever be as well known

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Speaker 1: as some of the better ones, getter known ones.

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Speaker 4: So there's no toilet facilities, is what you're saying, No.

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Speaker 3: Cafes, toilets, and not even a track in many places

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Speaker 3: you just have to follow a mountain or a creek

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Speaker 3: or a valley. So there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny you say that. I've just got a

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Speaker 4: text from my wife. You're saying, anytime I want to go,

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Speaker 4: I can go. Ironically, i'd win Brandy points if I went.

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Speaker 4: But Anthony, it's a great story. It's from snow to ash.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Sharwood, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Anthony, with Jos and Amanda