Speaker 1: The Rise and Conquer Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of
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Speaker 1: Beah region. We further acknowledge country throughout Australia and their
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Speaker 1: to their elders past and present and extend that respect
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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This is
Speaker 1: the podcast for ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things.
Speaker 1: You have not been doing this for three years.
Speaker 2: You've only been dogging women for three years.
Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, let's just see what happens. Hello, and welcome
Speaker 1: back to the Rise and Conker Podcast. It is your
Speaker 1: host Georgie Stevenson and guys, you know Fridays are our
Speaker 1: fun EPs where you send in your life dilemmas and
Speaker 1: I provide my very unqualified two cents on this situation. So, guys,
Speaker 1: today's hotline is a little bit different because we have
Speaker 1: a very special guest, Cooper. Cooper's in the podcast studio,
Speaker 1: so we thought it would be cool to do some
Speaker 1: hotline cues and kind of get a guy's perspective I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, I don't agree with.
Speaker 2: It reminded me.
Speaker 1: While we don't interview met, it reminded it reminded us
Speaker 1: of why men are trash. But no, we love Cooper. No,
Speaker 1: it was like it was cool to have a different perspective.
Speaker 1: And sure we had some really good questions, like, you know,
Speaker 1: do guys really need guy time? We did not agree
Speaker 1: on that. Ah, Cooper's opinion on like mask and fem energy,
Speaker 1: why some men take longer to propose, and just a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of fun cu so we got serious, we
Speaker 1: had a laugh. I think you guys will enjoy this.
Speaker 1: Maybe you'll get a bit annoyed like I.
Speaker 2: Did, but still it's good to open your mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. It's good. But before we get into
Speaker 1: the episode, you guys know, we say this is the
Speaker 1: podcast for ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things,
Speaker 1: and every now and again we are going to shine
Speaker 1: a spotlight on someone doing an absolute extraordinary thing. So
Speaker 1: today I want to share a quick story about Ned Brockman.
Speaker 1: You may have heard about this person a tea. Have
Speaker 1: you heard of him?
Speaker 2: I have. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: So Jamie came in the other day and she was
Speaker 1: like guys Ned Brockman. He's a twenty three year old
Speaker 1: electrician who has just finished running from Perth to Bondai. Yes,
Speaker 1: you literally heard that right. That's across Australia. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this, but Australia is huge.
Speaker 1: It's three nine hundred and fifty three kilometers huge. I
Speaker 1: just I can't fathom it, No, neib can I. I
Speaker 1: try to think about it, and then I'm just gobsmacked
Speaker 1: because I just don't understand how anyone could do that.
Speaker 1: Like I try to run four k's and I'm exhausted.
Speaker 2: I try to run one hundred meters and I exhausted.
Speaker 1: And this guy is like, he's not a runner, No,
Speaker 1: he literally just wanted to make a huge impact. He
Speaker 1: so he has this is incredible. So he's raised over
Speaker 1: one point eight million dollars for homelessness and it's just incredible.
Speaker 1: And I thought, if we're going to shine a light
Speaker 1: on anyone, it's this bloke because I feel for his
Speaker 1: feet one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I saw somewhere that apparently he pretty much has no
Speaker 2: cartilage left in his knees. So he was running one
Speaker 2: hundred kilometers a day and with bone on bone in
Speaker 2: his knees.
Speaker 1: No, oh, he's incredible. So guys, use this as an expander.
Speaker 1: We're going to put the links in our socials because
Speaker 1: it's still open if you guys want to donate. Such
Speaker 1: an amazing cause and just such an amazing bloke, yeah,
Speaker 1: doing extraordinary things. So truly, we're going to bring you
Speaker 1: some more of these, you know, ordinary people doing extraordinary
Speaker 1: things segments. But what a great way to kick it
Speaker 1: off for Tia.
Speaker 2: I know, all right, let's do our recommendations for the week. Georgie,
Speaker 2: what is yours?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll go first. Okay, so it's not a TV show,
Speaker 1: so don't worry, Jamie. So on our backs about it,
Speaker 1: Jamie sitting across the US, just like I rolling because
Speaker 1: we're so annoying. Recommendation. So something that I have done
Speaker 1: it recently. I think I might do a full podcast
Speaker 1: on it because I really want to chat about it.
Speaker 1: But for the first time this year, I've kind of
Speaker 1: had some breathing space because you know, we just wrapped
Speaker 1: up Candy Candyland, and then before that, I had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of projects that I was working on that
Speaker 1: really kind of consumed me and I realized that I
Speaker 1: was really stuck in the like day to day task
Speaker 1: of like just getting through life. That's how I would
Speaker 1: describe that feeling. And I realized that, and so I
Speaker 1: took like I was really conscious about my schedule, and
Speaker 1: I gave myself a couple of like weeks where I
Speaker 1: could just catch up on life, have some space, really
Speaker 1: be strict to my boundaries. Last week really took that space,
Speaker 1: and then this week I have spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time in the actual like planning and like visionary side
Speaker 1: of Naked Harvest and RNC, which I honestly have not
Speaker 1: done the whole year. I realized, and yeah, it just
Speaker 1: felt so good and a bit insane. I needed the
Speaker 1: space beforehand. And I think all of us like if
Speaker 1: maybe there's a decision to be made, or maybe there's
Speaker 1: something you know, coming up where you feel this like
Speaker 1: immense like pressure, and my recommendation is like actual, carve
Speaker 1: out some just space where you're not doing things. And
Speaker 1: I just found that that gave me so much more
Speaker 1: creativity to then look at things from like almost like
Speaker 1: a bird eye view, whereas I couldn't do that before
Speaker 1: when I was like stuck in the day to day.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of random, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, would you space?
Speaker 1: Should we do like a whole podcast on that idea
Speaker 1: and almost like how to plan out your whole year?
Speaker 2: Oh? I like that.
Speaker 1: Look out for that.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: What's your recommendation?
Speaker 2: My recommendation is, if you weren't following Ned Brockman's journey,
Speaker 2: go to his Instagram and actually take the time to
Speaker 2: look through his reflection of each day he ran. So
Speaker 2: he spent forty six days running and he posted a
Speaker 2: carousel of images every day, and every day he put
Speaker 2: quote of the day, song of the day, and a
Speaker 2: little reflection and I know, yeah, oh love So I
Speaker 2: read them and they're actually really beautiful. And his last
Speaker 2: one was amazing, and I that was actually quite uplifting.
Speaker 1: So I thought, was this last one, let's read it out,
Speaker 1: let's uplift the audience, let's uplift you all. They go
Speaker 1: into this absolute trash episode.
Speaker 2: So his last caption was three nine hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: three kilometers, forty six days and twelve hours. I might
Speaker 2: reflect and do a post at some point outlining the
Speaker 2: last forty seven days, but now is the sign off
Speaker 2: of what has truly been a life changing experience. So
Speaker 2: Australia ran it one point eight two million dollars so far,
Speaker 2: raised it, body, cooked it, eleven kilos, lost it, Nation,
Speaker 2: inspired it, mind, lost it, sleep earned it. Thank you
Speaker 2: all you bloody beautiful Remember get comfortable being uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: He's so Australian, he's so busy. I love so much.
Speaker 2: And his reflections each day were just like just so
Speaker 2: short and sweet. But I loved the quotes that he picked.
Speaker 2: And sometimes it was a random quote that someone obviously
Speaker 2: said that day, but sometimes it was like a bit
Speaker 2: more deep.
Speaker 1: This is so off key, but like, I absolutely love
Speaker 1: how some Australian men write. It's a good copy, is it,
Speaker 1: don't think? Yeah, I can to the point. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like really random cop.
Speaker 3: On that note.
Speaker 1: On that note, let's get into the episode.
Speaker 2: Is it important to give your partner guy time with
Speaker 2: their mates.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's very important for a guy to
Speaker 3: have some alone.
Speaker 1: Time because tell us tell us why.
Speaker 3: Well, for me in my situation that during the week
Speaker 3: is I have to go to work, I have to
Speaker 3: come home and give my time to my kids and
Speaker 3: my wife. But it depends, Like when I was plumbing
Speaker 3: It was very difficult because the stress. It depends on
Speaker 3: the stress you're under. And yeah, like it depends what
Speaker 3: you're doing in your life, if you're hustling or whatever.
Speaker 3: And would it.
Speaker 1: Also depend on like the type of person you are,
Speaker 1: So if you're an introvert or an extrovert, and if
Speaker 1: you need that solo time with your friends to fill
Speaker 1: up your cup. Like I have a girlfriend who is
Speaker 1: quite extroverted, and like she needs girl time to like
Speaker 1: feel herself. Where's me, who's a total introvert. I just
Speaker 1: like need my alone, my own time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Like I've got mates that don't need to
Speaker 3: do that as much, and then they can. But then
Speaker 3: so it depends on what your life.
Speaker 1: This is probably like in a relationship where the girl
Speaker 1: is like, why don't you want to spend time with me?
Speaker 1: You're always hanging around with your mates?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you a problem? It's the girl because
Speaker 3: she's neat, But if she was there to be supportive,
Speaker 3: then it would counteract.
Speaker 2: I have a random question off that when you first
Speaker 2: obviously you've predominantly been working, not ash. Yeah, like most
Speaker 2: of your relationship, did you ever have like this period
Speaker 2: where you wanted time with your guy friends, and you
Speaker 2: had to sort of navigate explaining that to her because
Speaker 2: you're away from her and your kids the whole day.
Speaker 2: And then it's sort of just a bit of like
Speaker 2: why don't you want to be with us at all?
Speaker 2: Kind of thing? How did you explain that? Because I
Speaker 2: feel like this might be.
Speaker 3: Similar, well, like it was their stress. Like I keep
Speaker 3: coming back to, it's just depending on the stress levels
Speaker 3: that you're on and because that for a guy, is
Speaker 3: an escape and you need to so it's to zone out.
Speaker 3: So I always like, so all my sports that I
Speaker 3: do is to zone out right, not in like a
Speaker 3: yeah like ridway, but it's like you're just like you
Speaker 3: don't think of anything else, You're just thinking about that
Speaker 3: one thing. So it depends on So you need to
Speaker 3: navigate your stress levels and what you're doing and how
Speaker 3: to eliminate some of the stress. Because if you are
Speaker 3: wanting to go to see your guy mates and have
Speaker 3: that guy time, it's because you're not balancing your life.
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Just went off tangent there.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So but then it yeah, for the female or the
Speaker 3: other partner, it's you need to give more support and
Speaker 3: if that's what they need, then that's what they should get.
Speaker 3: Because if you say no, why don't you want to
Speaker 3: spend time with me? And that makes the other person
Speaker 3: want to do it more like it's it's you need
Speaker 3: to take a different approach and you need to say,
Speaker 3: like why do you want to do that? How can
Speaker 3: I help? Or like is there something I can do
Speaker 3: in the relationship to ease the stress or something?
Speaker 1: And then what about if they're just like, for example,
Speaker 1: I know in me and Tim's relationship, Tim isn't like
Speaker 1: a guy's guy. Like Tim loves his golf and he
Speaker 1: loves straight away no, but it's not like he's obsessed
Speaker 1: with his friends, like you know, like footy friends where
Speaker 1: they like it's like a footy boy thing and they
Speaker 1: all hang around each other and it's like that almost
Speaker 1: like that locker room sort of vibe.
Speaker 3: I feel like I do he's not now he was
Speaker 3: back when you didn't have ivy or anythink he was
Speaker 3: that guy.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he was. He was because he
Speaker 1: has told me he's like the opposite. Yeah, but also
Speaker 1: I never felt like to hear no, but I never
Speaker 1: felt like he spent too much time with his friends.
Speaker 2: But is that because you were enjoy being by yourself
Speaker 2: when he was with his friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I'm I go go have fun.
Speaker 3: I need some time alone, But he's not now because
Speaker 3: he has not much stress and he's content with his
Speaker 3: life and it's it's all good. He doesn't need that
Speaker 3: guy fix and that stress relief because he's got it all.
Speaker 2: Do you think you need it anyway though, Like even
Speaker 2: if you're like super happy and relaxed all the time.
Speaker 3: Well, he does do it. He goes to golf. Yeah,
Speaker 3: twice or three times a week. So everyone needs it,
Speaker 3: but it's not like this need and you have to
Speaker 3: do it. It's you're content with everything and there's balance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your opinion on masculine and feminine energy?
Speaker 1: So when we're talking masculine enemy energy, we're not talking
Speaker 1: like female male, we're talking yin and yang. So yin
Speaker 1: is that like being stillness, like really sitting in the
Speaker 1: feeling and like letting things come to you. It's like flow,
Speaker 1: where's yang energy is like doing its structure. It's like
Speaker 1: I would say I'm a very masculine energy person. Ashley
Speaker 1: is very yin energy. It's like that sort of vibe.
Speaker 2: Do you make an effort to get into your feminine energy?
Speaker 3: Ah, I think it probably comes in natural.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would say Cooper is.
Speaker 3: More for hardcore.
Speaker 1: Yin than Yang.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Really well, like I feel like you're a natural,
Speaker 1: Like Keep is like a very natural manifesto, Like once
Speaker 1: he's in the zone and he can flow and things.
Speaker 1: It's just like how we have the joke here how
Speaker 1: he just like like waltz is in and waltzes out
Speaker 1: and like does random things and has all these like
Speaker 1: random hobbies and like me and Aterior like sitting here
Speaker 1: fucking distress, he was like, bab bitches, and we have
Speaker 1: that joke. It's because he finds it so easy to
Speaker 1: be in his yin energy and he's like he's like
Speaker 1: it's all good, Like I know it's going to work out.
Speaker 2: Like all your hobbies, like you try mountain biking and
Speaker 2: kite surfing and all that sort of stuff is like
Speaker 2: your yin energy, which I could never I'd get over
Speaker 2: trying too many.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you find it quite easy to
Speaker 1: like surrender and be, but then you also know how
Speaker 1: to get into your masculine energy when a project needs
Speaker 1: to be done.
Speaker 3: Thank you for answering that question. Yeah, I guess I've
Speaker 3: never really thought about it.
Speaker 1: Good tonight approach question.
Speaker 3: For would like to think of myself for both.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was going to say, do you think
Speaker 1: you need both energies?
Speaker 3: Definitely? Like I like that state, but I also like
Speaker 3: to get in there and hustle and when I want something,
Speaker 3: I go for it, like it is. I am the
Speaker 3: driver a fair bit in the company when we first started. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I've got that as well. But I think that's
Speaker 3: because I'm I would consider myself as a kind person,
Speaker 3: So I like to always be kind in certain things.
Speaker 3: And how do you like, so that's my feminine energy,
Speaker 3: isn't it?
Speaker 1: I guess so not?
Speaker 2: How do you like step out of that? Doing stuff
Speaker 2: all the time though?
Speaker 3: Step out of it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like if you have if you have a goal,
Speaker 2: how do you still prioritize like going for golf or
Speaker 2: like doing the other things that fill up your cup
Speaker 2: outside of.
Speaker 1: See I what's the goal I had? He doesn't have
Speaker 1: that problem. You just do it.
Speaker 3: I just do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not. Like it's very different.
Speaker 3: Energy the way I like to look at it is,
Speaker 3: which I've got helped help with this is I have
Speaker 3: I think about seven metaphorically buckets in my life, and
Speaker 3: I prioritize what I have in my life and then
Speaker 3: so it's like kids, wife, business, adventures, holidays and those
Speaker 3: sorts of things. So I like to when I don't
Speaker 3: feel in flow, I like to have a look at
Speaker 3: my buckets and see what's empty, and then I like
Speaker 3: to work on them.
Speaker 1: Give them love. That that's really cool. I need to
Speaker 1: work out my bucket we need? Do you have to
Speaker 1: have seven? How many buckets do you have something?
Speaker 3: However? You have in your life?
Speaker 1: So you just have to decided, Hey, but if I
Speaker 1: have to, should I have more buckets?
Speaker 3: Not Tim?
Speaker 1: I should we give Tim a bucket. That's so interesting.
Speaker 1: So when things aren't feeling in flow, you kind of
Speaker 1: look at your buckets of like, yeah, I've been putting
Speaker 1: my energy, and then you put energy in a different bucket.
Speaker 2: So it's maybe like you haven't gone on a holiday
Speaker 2: in a while, or you haven't done something adventurous, and
Speaker 2: then you schedule that in.
Speaker 3: And then you prioritize until that bucket is nurtured, and
Speaker 3: then then you're in flow again, and then you keep
Speaker 3: going and it's all about balance, and that's what I've
Speaker 3: been working at the moment.
Speaker 2: And how did you figure out whether something was worth
Speaker 2: being a bucket or not?
Speaker 3: Well, that's just when you're filling it out your buckets.
Speaker 3: You work all that out and what's important?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's a priority?
Speaker 3: I guess Yeah, get a pen and paper and go
Speaker 3: to town. Get a good list. I love a good list.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Next question, why is it that my husband always gets
Speaker 2: the shits when I don't feel like having sex? She
Speaker 2: did add She's like, it's not like abusive or anything.
Speaker 2: It's just like he has a bit of a hissy
Speaker 2: fit and doesn't tell her like, oh, it's so fine
Speaker 2: that you don't feel like it.
Speaker 3: Well, this would be on the mail if anything, is
Speaker 3: not the female so because I was there when I
Speaker 3: was with my wife at the start. But it depends
Speaker 3: on where you are in your life, and if you're
Speaker 3: younger or first starting out in a relationship, your testosterone
Speaker 3: is very high. So I've slowly gotten to the lower.
Speaker 3: So what happens is when you when you get married
Speaker 3: or each step, like if you get engaged and then
Speaker 3: you get married, and then your test oserone goes lower
Speaker 3: and lower.
Speaker 1: Like this is actually biologically Yeah, I looked up.
Speaker 3: And then you have kids and it gets even more
Speaker 3: and then you get to this point where you're both
Speaker 3: good and yet your level it levels out with the
Speaker 3: female and the male and yeah, you're like in a good,
Speaker 3: good spot.
Speaker 1: I would say, like, maybe these people like aren't on
Speaker 1: the same page, don't you recond?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they probably need to communicate a bit more.
Speaker 1: But a bit like for example, there's like a lot
Speaker 1: of factors of maybe the husband feels like insecure of
Speaker 1: like why don't you want to have sex with me?
Speaker 1: Do not find me attractive or you know something like that,
Speaker 1: or is it a fact of like she consistently turns
Speaker 1: him down and he's like well, or he's like I
Speaker 1: want that connection with you, and that's how he creates
Speaker 1: that connection, you know, Like I feel like she.
Speaker 3: Could probably do a bit of work into trying to
Speaker 3: find herself to be more sexually active for have that.
Speaker 1: Same connection or connect on the same way.
Speaker 3: When you're both in flow together, yeah, that's when it's
Speaker 3: like the sparks go really good and the relationship works
Speaker 3: so well because if there's friction in that area, like
Speaker 3: that's a key to a good relationship, so she might
Speaker 3: need to do a bit of work on it and
Speaker 3: find out.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they both for sure, and it like for.
Speaker 3: Him as well, he probably needs.
Speaker 1: The because also if like he should be maybe asking
Speaker 1: like why doesn't she want to? Because maybe for her
Speaker 1: it's like is there any Because I heard this really
Speaker 1: good quote the other day on a podcast I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember. I think it was the Yay podcast where
Speaker 1: Fine your Yay Wow the Yay podcast. We all know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, and she was saying, like men
Speaker 1: and women in regards to foreplay is so different. So
Speaker 1: like men most of the time, like they're pretty easy
Speaker 1: to get into it of like what it takes all,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm inside there, whereas with females, like she
Speaker 1: was saying, it can start from like when they wake up,
Speaker 1: of how you treat them or when they wake up
Speaker 1: and then like if you asked about their day for example,
Speaker 1: me a little TMI. I love like I need that
Speaker 1: connection with the tim in him being like interested in
Speaker 1: like I'm a huge like communicator, so it's like I
Speaker 1: need conversation and almost like that's almost like four play
Speaker 1: for me of having that connection in our you talk
Speaker 1: about your day and he's interested in how you feel,
Speaker 1: and he's you know, blah blah blah. And then I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: well it's like he like love languages. Well, it's like
Speaker 1: he's probably just speaking a different language when you're talking
Speaker 1: about sex. For the female, she's probably like, well for
Speaker 1: me to be in the mood, I need this, this,
Speaker 1: and this, And he's like, well, for me to be
Speaker 1: in the mood, I need this, I need nothing. I
Speaker 1: need nothing. But like with guys like it could it's
Speaker 1: not like I wouldn't put everyone in the basket of
Speaker 1: their just keen all the time. Yeah, So it's I
Speaker 1: think it's about communicating being like what's missing here in
Speaker 1: our you know, I think they're just on different languages
Speaker 1: so on.
Speaker 3: That that's I've yeah, I've done that too. So what
Speaker 3: it is is communication. You need to sit down together
Speaker 3: and tell each other what you want. Because I remember
Speaker 3: I didn't get to do that with Ash, but I
Speaker 3: remember I started to do the washing and she was.
Speaker 1: Like the fuck yeah, she loved it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just well I needed it done and I
Speaker 3: was sick a harassing her. And as soon as I
Speaker 3: was like but I worked out that it was my problem.
Speaker 3: So but that's another thing. So yeah, like communication, like
Speaker 3: sit down and have a talk what you do, like
Speaker 3: and go with what you just said George of like
Speaker 3: this is how I feel connected and if you can
Speaker 3: do that then we might get to that point or
Speaker 3: like and he'll do it. He'll work as hard as
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 1: I could make it happen and wants it's even like
Speaker 1: on the podcast, I remember her saying, like, for example,
Speaker 1: when guys are stressed, they usually like they want to
Speaker 1: have sex to release stress, whereas when women are stressed,
Speaker 1: it's we don't want to have sexis like, yah, the
Speaker 1: last thing on my mind right now, I'm you know, stressed,
Speaker 1: whereas like you know, there's certain things. So we're literally different.
Speaker 1: Biology is very different. So maybe it's about understanding where
Speaker 1: each other is at and having that insight. Guys, So
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Speaker 2: Do you think men who cheat will always cheat? Can
Speaker 2: they genuinely change?
Speaker 3: I reckon, yes, they can change.
Speaker 2: Do you think that comes with age or.
Speaker 1: Or just like a development Wise, I think it would
Speaker 1: be wrong to say, like you can't change, Like if
Speaker 1: you think about the Rise and Coner podcast, we're about evolution,
Speaker 1: we're about change. You can completely change who you are
Speaker 1: and how you show up in the world. So I
Speaker 1: think it would be very limiting to put that just
Speaker 1: because we're talking about cheating obviously.
Speaker 3: Is a really bad thing, but it like if it
Speaker 3: was a once off thing or something like comes down
Speaker 3: the communication again or something went wrong or like, but
Speaker 3: if they did it like multiple times, then yeah, he's
Speaker 3: going to do it again because.
Speaker 1: For me once, what sort of thing. Yeah, shame on.
Speaker 2: Shame on you for me twice, shame on me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So but if you do it once or
Speaker 3: it just happens or something, yeah, you can definitely change.
Speaker 3: But he's going to happen, but he's probably yeah, at
Speaker 3: a low point or something's gone wrong in that relationship
Speaker 3: and there's like it takes two to tango.
Speaker 1: So my view one cheating too is if you are
Speaker 1: going to I guess make it work and try to
Speaker 1: come back from it, I think you almost need to
Speaker 1: clean slate it and go all right, we're starting basically
Speaker 1: again from this time and clean slate it and not
Speaker 1: go back to that issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you can't be in a fight and be like,
Speaker 2: well you cheated on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And but it's up to you for a sample,
Speaker 1: if you feel like you can go there and almost
Speaker 1: like forgive them computer Yeah, because me personally, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I would always bring I'd always
Speaker 1: bring it up. Yeah, So it depends, like if you
Speaker 1: want to move forward and they you feel like they
Speaker 1: are going to change and you believe them, you almost
Speaker 1: need to come to the table. Well from this point,
Speaker 1: you know, we're moving forward with a clean slight but.
Speaker 3: It's hard, like we obviously haven't been in that situation.
Speaker 3: So to give advice to something like that, like, it's
Speaker 3: really hard, but like overall you can.
Speaker 1: But I would like to believe people change like that.
Speaker 3: Trust it would be that would be like the hardest
Speaker 3: thing to get over, harder. I don't know if I
Speaker 3: could do it. Trust thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, next question, what do you do if friends and
Speaker 2: family ask for a free product or discount on your business?
Speaker 2: It's not relationships, but I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 3: It depends who they are, depends if I like them
Speaker 3: pretty much.
Speaker 1: No, So I have an opinion on this, and then
Speaker 1: you can go cooper. So I have an opinion that,
Speaker 1: for example, I feel like we are very generous with
Speaker 1: our family and friends. But I also have opinion of
Speaker 1: a true always been like that generous?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like would you give free product when you first started? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I but I am I'm of the view
Speaker 1: that your friends should never expect and they should always
Speaker 1: want to support you, especially when you're starting out, especially
Speaker 1: when you're a small business. Well I think at any
Speaker 1: time really, and they should never I don't know because
Speaker 1: for example, if someone came to me a friend and
Speaker 1: was like, oh I want this, this, this for free.
Speaker 1: I would almost turn around and like.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't be your friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be like no, just for the point of
Speaker 1: like a true friend wouldn't do that. Yeah, Like they
Speaker 1: would not expect that. And I think that's like a
Speaker 1: really gross assumption to have because it's like they should
Speaker 1: want to support you on your endeavors, and I feel
Speaker 1: like that should need to be like shown.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Would it be different if they like ask for a
Speaker 2: discount code, Like if they were like, hey, I really
Speaker 2: want to order a few things. Did you have a
Speaker 2: small little friends and family discount code? If not, totally fine,
Speaker 2: how would you take something like that?
Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's so fine. I would like love
Speaker 1: for people to you know.
Speaker 3: After that, that's still support.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so supportive because they're like, I want to
Speaker 1: help you out, but also give me a dissy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a welcome dizzy, which is I think. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's so fine, and that's even like a like normal
Speaker 1: thing to do.
Speaker 2: I guess next question, why do some men take longer
Speaker 2: to propose than others.
Speaker 3: They probably need more time to think about the next step.
Speaker 1: And Cooper can't relate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was pretty soon. Well, I when I got
Speaker 3: to marry me, I thought we'd have a long engagement
Speaker 3: and we didn't, so I wanted more time. But I
Speaker 3: didn't really mind that much. But I couldn't really mind.
Speaker 3: But yeah, well, they're probably not sure on something.
Speaker 2: So talk to them about it.
Speaker 3: Communication again.
Speaker 1: I think also like for most guys, it's not I
Speaker 1: feel like our family's different, Cooper, because all like all
Speaker 1: the brothers have proposed at very young ages, very quite soon,
Speaker 1: whereas I know a lot of people where it can
Speaker 1: take ten years. And I think it's like the priority.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like a lot of men that like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not it's not like they dream about
Speaker 1: their winning and they're thinking of the colors and you know,
Speaker 1: what they want to wear, et cetera. It's just not
Speaker 1: a priority and they're probably thinking, oh, we most all
Speaker 1: put this money into our house or that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: and it's almost like a backburner thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a lot of it's definitely one,
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of things where they're not ready,
Speaker 3: Like that's probably a big one. They're not ready to
Speaker 3: take that commitment and go to that next step and
Speaker 3: because they know after that it might be kids, or
Speaker 3: they might want to still party or like doing stuff
Speaker 3: or yeah, like there's a lot of factors.
Speaker 2: So next question, when you're in a relationship and have
Speaker 2: a fight, do you overthink similar to women? Like do
Speaker 2: I like, do men overthink like women.
Speaker 3: Overthinkh Probably not. I would say men don't overthink. They
Speaker 3: would just leave it, But it depends.
Speaker 1: That's putting like men and women in such a box though,
Speaker 1: it is because you'd have some guys who completely overthink,
Speaker 1: overthink and some women who's like.
Speaker 3: Overthink a bit more and ask doesn't but then our
Speaker 3: other brother, he wouldn't give a ship and then yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Wife depends on the person.
Speaker 3: You do you overthink? You wouldn't, So it depends on
Speaker 3: the person.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The main thing is to probably have a breather
Speaker 3: and step away from that situation and however long that
Speaker 3: is hopefully not too long, and then come back and
Speaker 3: communicate when you're not angry. If you got anger, you
Speaker 3: just let loose whoever is the more angry person. Envy
Speaker 3: like we want to fight, like we want to talk
Speaker 3: this a fight, nothing comes good of.
Speaker 2: It because I feel like often guys will be like,
Speaker 2: I'm angry, I need to walk away, and girls are like, no,
Speaker 2: let's fix it now before you walk away. It needs
Speaker 2: to be fixed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to keep talking about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you found that it's easier for people to
Speaker 2: like take a breather.
Speaker 3: And then come back after Yeah, it doesn't matter who's
Speaker 3: who's angry one, but yeah, just have a breather, step away,
Speaker 3: go for a walk, and come back and then communicate
Speaker 3: and figure it out.
Speaker 2: More of a longer question one was posted in our
Speaker 2: Facebook group. I've been with my partner for about two
Speaker 2: years now, and I truly love him and we are
Speaker 2: so obsessed with each other. He recently quit his job
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago to start a business, but
Speaker 2: at the moment, I feel like it's less starting a
Speaker 2: business and more just hanging around at home. He doesn't
Speaker 2: ever get up before midday and seems to mainly just
Speaker 2: watch TV shows. Do you have any advice for me?
Speaker 3: Crap? I wonder if he stays up as.
Speaker 1: Much to say, getting up at midday, Jesus.
Speaker 2: How would you approach that as someone who started a business, Like,
Speaker 2: what was it like when you guys started n h
Speaker 2: was working.
Speaker 3: Like four or something because I couldn't sleep about anything.
Speaker 3: I think everything.
Speaker 1: I think he's taking the piers.
Speaker 3: Definitely, don't you reckon? Yeah, you need to pull him
Speaker 3: in and say what the hell are you doing? Like communicate?
Speaker 1: Well, he also couperzends everything.
Speaker 3: Communicate its key.
Speaker 1: I'd also loved to know like is he did he
Speaker 1: quit his job, but now you're providing for him and
Speaker 1: then he's just mucking around or you know, like what's
Speaker 1: happening here? Why should she be worried?
Speaker 2: Or is he well he said he's quit his job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he might financially have iby fed. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then like maybe he just needs some like breather time
Speaker 1: or what not.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So like if if she's providing, then it's a
Speaker 2: point of concern. But if he's still like paying his
Speaker 2: half and lumbing around, she doesn't. She shouldn't stress.
Speaker 3: Well, it depends what you want to be with You
Speaker 3: you want to be with someone like that, and that's
Speaker 3: doesn't matter about financial if you want to it's who
Speaker 3: you hang out with. Like, if you're hanging out with
Speaker 3: someone like that, it's going to rub on you. And
Speaker 3: if you if you're not going in that direction, you
Speaker 3: need to buy it in the barm and have a
Speaker 3: talk with him and say I don't like the way
Speaker 3: you're doing this, or and say this isn't where I
Speaker 3: want to progress.
Speaker 1: To and just say, well, check in with him, being
Speaker 1: like what's happening here? Yeah, like why are you sleeping
Speaker 1: until midday?
Speaker 3: And like a sla his mental health?
Speaker 1: What's he doing at night?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Normal? But if he's working at night, then that's it.
Speaker 3: But if he's not, something like yeah, you need to
Speaker 3: communicate a bit more and suss it out. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: if that's what you want or don't want, then go
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 2: Lucky. Last question, my boyfriend and I have been together
Speaker 2: for over two and a half years. We love each
Speaker 2: other to death, but notice that we're both really burnt
Speaker 2: out in general. We're currently looking to move in together
Speaker 2: towards the end of the year and I don't want
Speaker 2: to feel like this when we move into our new
Speaker 2: environment together. What's your best advice on not feeling burnt out?
Speaker 3: Probably need to assess what's going on in your life
Speaker 3: to try and substitute where you're getting burnt out. Like
Speaker 3: if it's your work, then maybe not work as much
Speaker 3: or I don't know if you're doing too many sports
Speaker 3: in the afternoon or somewhere where you can eliminate a
Speaker 3: bit of the stress or something.
Speaker 1: I feel like when you're burnt out, you're not in alignment,
Speaker 1: like something in life is you're doing something you don't
Speaker 1: like or yeah, you're almost like not happy in a way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like something needs to shift, whether it's your routine,
Speaker 1: your work, your hobbies to get into a new energy.
Speaker 1: But in saying that, I think even moving in together
Speaker 1: would be a huge shift that may help if it's
Speaker 1: not something that you know.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought too, because like maybe the
Speaker 2: bonout is coming from trying to manage too much moving around.
Speaker 2: Because I know one of my friends and her partner
Speaker 2: jump between her house and his house because they're saving
Speaker 2: up to get their own, So that would be the
Speaker 2: cause of their boneout. Yeah, so have a look at
Speaker 2: what it's actually causing it, because moving in together might
Speaker 2: solve the burnout.
Speaker 1: And also if they're currently living in separate households, like
Speaker 1: maybe with parents, maybe with roommates, I think having your
Speaker 1: own environment where it's just you two is so refreshing
Speaker 1: and so nice. Like I think your living environment. Environment
Speaker 1: is so huge to how you show up in life.
Speaker 1: Like I've even noticed with our move just how I'm
Speaker 1: in a new environment and just how different I kind
Speaker 1: of amah, And that's like shifted a lot of like
Speaker 1: stagnant energy. So I feel like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: this could be it's almost have a look what you're
Speaker 1: doing right now, But this could be like a very
Speaker 1: exciting step.
Speaker 3: I remember when I moved out with Ash for the
Speaker 3: first time. We were nineteen and it was the best
Speaker 3: one year of my life. It can only last maybe
Speaker 3: last year and a half, and then we moved back
Speaker 3: to the parents to save up, but it was the
Speaker 3: best thing that we ever did. The freedom that you
Speaker 3: get from it, it opens up, Yeah, so many doors.
Speaker 3: You mature U so much.
Speaker 1: You have to grow up so much.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: I moved out when I was nineteen two, and I
Speaker 1: remember it was the best. I was like, holy fuck.
Speaker 3: So good. So yeah, when something scary, it's usually really
Speaker 3: exciting to turn out really good.
Speaker 1: That's where they're and that could be where the burnout is.
Speaker 1: Like it's just like you're in the same routine, You're
Speaker 1: in the same energy. You need a change you need.
Speaker 1: Saying fresh to change the environment really exciting.
Speaker 2: Do it.
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