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Speaker 1: Now, if you're listening to the show on Friday, you

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Speaker 1: the moment. It's something that we've discussed on numerous occasions

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Speaker 1: with the general manager of Tourism top End, Glenn Hingley,

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Speaker 1: and he joins me on the line right now. Good

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Speaker 1: morning to you, Glenn.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now Glenn All, like I mentioned on Friday, we caught

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Speaker 1: up with a wonderful territory in Rob who really spoke

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Speaker 1: good news. A bit further detail has rolled out this

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Speaker 1: morning about the next round of tourism vouchers. October four

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Speaker 1: is the date, by the look of it.

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Speaker 2: October before is the date, and this is to support

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Speaker 2: businesses like Rob Woods, like Ethical Adventures. Businesses are epitomize

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Speaker 2: that top end experience, give people these insights that you

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Speaker 2: get to understand the cultural and also the conservational aspects

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Speaker 2: of our great region. And so vouchers coming back online

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Speaker 2: give Territorians that opportunity. I know the tourism industry have.

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Speaker 2: There's been a collective sigh of relief to hear this

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Speaker 2: because the lockdown and Sydney Melbourne has been a lockdown

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Speaker 2: so many are worrying about what do they do with

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Speaker 2: own fixed expenses every month? Many local territori and businesses

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Speaker 2: have their homes mortgage to their businesses, and so having

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Speaker 2: the opportunity for and some incentive for Territorians to get

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Speaker 1: And so round four is going to be five million

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Speaker 1: an additional two hundred Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So that's the same program rules that applied in

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Speaker 2: round two and three, which I mean. The great thing

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Speaker 2: I know that they've got some delightful not just an accommodation,

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Speaker 2: You know, there is a there's of course Kakadu, like

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Speaker 2: thing about this five million dollars, Katie, is from a

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Speaker 2: the government matches that, so it's a four hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: this is a great day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Glenn, some out there listening we'll be thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: I've no doubt that there's plenty in the tourism sector

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are, They're so incredibly popular. I mean, Glenn,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I spoke to Rob again on Saturday, as I've

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Speaker 1: I am going to have to wrap up, but can

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Speaker 2: So I'm confused, I'm frustrated by it, and I hope

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Speaker 1: Glenn Henley, thank you so very much for your time

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Speaker 1: this morning as always, and and we'll all be keeping

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, Thanks listeners, keep an oye for the vouchers.

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