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Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily

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Speaker 1: ohs oh, now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Daily OS. It's Saturday, the third of May.

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Speaker 1: I'm Billy fitz.

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Speaker 2: Simon's and I'm George Finlassen.

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Speaker 1: George, Happy Election Day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Happy Election Day to you. I'll be treating myself

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Speaker 2: to a Democracy.

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Speaker 1: Socage amazing with extra onion. I hope.

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Speaker 3: I love the onion on election.

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Speaker 2: Day mustered tomato sauce.

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Speaker 3: So good.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you were tuning into this podcast and expecting

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Speaker 1: a last minute election podcast, this is not that. As

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Speaker 1: you would have seen from the title of this episode,

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Speaker 1: we thought would give you something a little bit different today.

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Speaker 1: As you may know, every Saturday we do do a

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Speaker 1: good news podcast and today we have an extra special

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Speaker 1: good news episode for you. This week, British woman Fran

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Speaker 1: Herndle began her quest to become it's the fastest ever

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Speaker 1: person to run across Australia. Fran is setting out to

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Speaker 1: run three eight hundred kilometers from Codslow Beach in Perth

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Speaker 1: to Bondai Beach in Sydney in just thirty four days.

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Speaker 1: For Fran it's not only an attempt to set a

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Speaker 1: new world record, but also an opportunity to start a

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Speaker 1: conversation about domestic violence, as you're here in our interview.

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Speaker 3: With her today.

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Speaker 1: Now, George, you interviewed Fran and before we listen to

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Speaker 1: that interview, I want to talk about how over the

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Speaker 1: past couple of years, if not longer than that, we

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Speaker 1: really have seen definitely a rise in run clubs but

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Speaker 1: also ultra marathons, people just running crazy distances.

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Speaker 3: Have you noticed that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely been a rise in run clubs and

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Speaker 2: I've definitely seen it amongst my friends and I've certainly

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Speaker 2: As for ultra running, there's also been an uptick in participation.

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Speaker 2: A twenty twenty study from run Repeat found that ultra

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Speaker 2: I think that's the reason that we're seeing more and

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Speaker 1: And we saw in twenty twenty two. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people listening. I'm sure we'll remember Ned Brockman.

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Speaker 2: Of course Ned Brockman. You can't forget the mallet and

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Speaker 1: Yes, So in twenty twenty two he attempted to run

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Speaker 1: at the time. He only just missed that. He did

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Speaker 1: it in forty four days. But even since then the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the record has changed and it kind of went

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Speaker 2: Yeah, precise, very precise. And there's also another guy, British

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Speaker 1: So he's doing that right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Fran's about fifteen days behind William and she's

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Speaker 2: Okay, Fran, thanks so much for joining the Daily Hours

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Speaker 2: So just to start, do you want to give us

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Speaker 4: Yes, on the first of May this year, I'll be

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Speaker 4: which is which is really exciting too. So the first

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Speaker 2: We'll get on to the charity stuff a bit later,

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Speaker 2: but many of us remember when Ned Brockman did his

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Speaker 4: So that was the one thing that sort of drew

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Speaker 4: So that's the most important thing for me, is getting help.

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Speaker 2: In terms of the physical preparation, you're three weeks out.

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Speaker 4: It's just going to be a completely different ballgame when

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Speaker 4: But I've always said that I'm really confident in my

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Speaker 2: What do you expect a day on the road to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so obviously I've got a team of four people

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Speaker 4: probably looking at at least all up with breaks around

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Speaker 3: I don't think I really know what's coming.

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Speaker 2: Do you have like a mantra or a set of

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Speaker 3: So just sort of take my mind.

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty four I found out my sister had

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Speaker 2: Amazing. And let's end on a bit of a quick

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Speaker 3: I do love noodles, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It's quite a pump up song. I do love to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Daily I was team. We're signing up

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Speaker 2: Great. Well, thanks fran it's been a pleasure having you on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me we will be keeping a

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Speaker 1: That's all we have today. I hope you enjoy voting

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Speaker 1: the next time you hear from us, we will know

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Speaker 1: the result of today's election and we'll be breaking it

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Speaker 4: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda

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Speaker 4: Bunjelung Kalkutin woman from Gadighl Country. The Daily oz acknowledges

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