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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. He's entered the room, Australia's biggest automotive

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Speaker 1: heart throb. Mom's a lot ready, Oh me, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about me? No, no, no, no, no, come on in trave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, one of those days.

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Speaker 1: Think it's been an interesting day. Just been in at

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Speaker 1: the beach today. As you can see, I'm a bit

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Speaker 1: sun kissed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sydney beaches are interesting, aren't they. They're like a

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Speaker 1: There was just a group of white women drinking rose

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Speaker 1: and it was like a Camilla Kaftan convention.

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Speaker 2: That is the definition of an Australian beach day. White

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Speaker 2: women drinking on the beach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or if you watch bond I rescue like Indian blokes

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Speaker 2: going swimming fully clothed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, needed to be rescued.

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Speaker 2: Hey, if you are Indian or Asian and listening to this,

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Speaker 2: can you tell us why this happens so often? I

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Speaker 2: think Native Australians tend to know the beach is a

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Speaker 2: to do. But a lot of tourists just do not

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Speaker 2: get it. And I'm keen to understand when Australia is

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Speaker 2: advertised overseas and people come here. Why is there a

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Speaker 2: disconnect between going swimming and drowning?

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Speaker 4: Like what is the let us know?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm pretty sure I can answer that question because

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Speaker 1: generally people will come here for asylum and they're living

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Speaker 1: in like pretty They're not living on lovely coastal metropolitan cities.

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Speaker 4: And so this is tourists that go to Bondai. You

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Speaker 4: don't come here to seek asylum and then go I'm

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Speaker 4: going to go to Bondai Beach.

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Speaker 1: Yes you do.

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Speaker 4: You've got other stuff to.

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Speaker 1: Do anyway, anyway you get today, What did you do today?

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Speaker 4: I went to visit family with my daughter in our tesla. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I did yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I took the key EV six to Lang Lang to

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Speaker 2: destroying tires with drift mode.

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Speaker 1: Then now you have you by the way, you didn't

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Speaker 1: just have the key at EV six. You had you

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Speaker 1: mine got traded in for a Stonitch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had to pass off the Stonitch just

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Speaker 2: it's a bit the whole day fanging it around and

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Speaker 2: having fun and going home. It's about one hundred and

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Speaker 2: mode and I was in for anyone that is from Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Just recently, the traffic is absolutely ft. I don't know why,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make it to frantically re route to

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Speaker 2: a charger. Made it to the charger with one percent

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Speaker 4: Just drove off. I'm like, yeah, right, oh jet, So yes,

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Speaker 2: The car is heaps of fun, by the way, and

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Speaker 2: I know that today is our youte special, but EB

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Speaker 2: six GT is heap of fun and drift mode is

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Speaker 2: So yeah, be careful if you are driving on because

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Speaker 1: When you get a car like that, especially an EV

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Speaker 2: It's it's there's no escaping its weight and it sits

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Speaker 2: the technicalities behind the brake pedal. In a typical car,

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Speaker 2: tech is really cool. It can do up to three

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Speaker 4: Zone, so it is yeah, it is really cool.

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Speaker 2: Beneath the skin how much work they've done to this,

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, when you put it in drift mode, I.

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Speaker 1: Jesus at a bit of reflex going on. Did you

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Speaker 2: So yeah, when you put it into drift mode, it

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Speaker 2: it lets you do big old drifts as well.

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Speaker 3: So it is.

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Speaker 4: It is a really fun car.

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Speaker 1: I've only had the Baby, I've only had the EV

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Speaker 1: six and you know on it, Yeah, you know how

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Speaker 1: much I love the EV six too, Like, that's just

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Speaker 2: Oh the seat is manually adjustable in the GT. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wonder why they did that, because I mean they've

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Speaker 4: We'll save thirty eight dollars and not make them electric.

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Speaker 1: Well that's exactly it, you know, Like I think someone

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Speaker 2: But in this day and age, it's not like it's

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Speaker 2: And I just find it so completely bizarre.

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Speaker 1: It's an odd choice. And everything else is pretty much

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Speaker 4: So we can't just se how that goes.

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Speaker 4: Reckon they might do that eventually.

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Speaker 2: The issue that they've got with then, especially in SUVs,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Coopers are kind of doing nice things, but nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: You know, they had to be mental.

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Speaker 2: Well it's like I actually found out the other day,

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Speaker 1: Oh why did they do that? Because that was that's right,

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Speaker 1: Oh they crushed that thing. Yeah. I was speaking to

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Speaker 1: fucking shame. I'm like, why why would you do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't give it to some couple of knobs at Sunshine

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Speaker 1: Tafe who will probably just take it out on the

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Speaker 1: weekend and smoke bongs in the back of it. Give

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Speaker 1: it to me, Give it to me. Actually, they do

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Speaker 1: that a lot with their hydrogen fleet as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just have to be careful with how you

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Speaker 4: crush that.

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Speaker 2: I guess Imagine that the suburb of Sydney has now

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Speaker 2: been has disappeared after a hydrogen bomb explosion.

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Speaker 1: The suburb of EMU Planes is now non existent, is

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Speaker 1: now just planes? Then Usually it just gets up and

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Speaker 1: in planes. You've never been there, have you?

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Speaker 4: It sounds fun.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a bit like Lang Lang, but just

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Speaker 1: less rights tracks, more bogans.

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Speaker 4: Hello to our listeners from EMEU Planes as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to you guys. What else is going on?

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Speaker 5: You don't need a driver's license to play four US.

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Speaker 4: That is so interesting. Me go, so is File Sandalands

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Speaker 1: We're out already. That can go through this entire podcast

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Speaker 4: But at the time they're all pretty not very good,

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Speaker 4: Very perplexed at why it's so Secretly me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this thing looks unreal, so how it Yeah, my

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised people found it underwhelming, but I mean, I

442
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,719
Speaker 1: guess they were expecting something as surprising as much as

443
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: the exterior and performance of the car was.

444
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think it's I

445
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 4: don't know.

446
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 3: Ferrari.

447
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 4: It's an interesting brand. It's actually a bit like Rolls.

448
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: You can't buy a limited or new Ferrari unless you've

449
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 2: owned other shitter Ferraris, so like for you to get

450
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: I've already lost track of which ones they sell, but

451
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: whatever the four eight eight replacement is, you need to

452
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: kind of have a history with them. And for a

453
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: vehicle like this, where it's so limited, they will be

454
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: going to people that have already had an extensive history

455
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: of Ferraris, and for you to actually get a limited

456
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 2: edition Ferrari, there is like an unspoken rule about what

457
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: you need to have owned previously. Lamba, on the other hand,

458
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 2: is more a case of just you know, who's got

459
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 2: cash on the day can come and get a Ferrari drama.

460
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: You're some sort of an influencer, or wrap up by

461
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: a Lamborghini. What about you pricing this ad?

462
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 2: Some?

463
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: Is it?

464
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 4: Did I hear?

465
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 3: Right?

466
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: Somewhere around a million dollars?

467
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 5: Like?

468
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 1: Is it really up there?

469
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 4: Let me have a look. I actually don't know.

470
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: I think Australia was Yeah, there we go seven hundred

471
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: and twenty eight thousand.

472
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: And yet sold out for four years?

473
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Speaker 4: Did you say, yeah? Just insane to think that someone

474
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 4: just seven hundred thousand.

475
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think you'll be buying one anytime soon.

476
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: If you're a little if your little locker behind your

477
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: stolen from Sunshine Tafe is anything to go by with

478
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: my Wooly's bag. Wuld you call that the billy?

479
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: But billy, that's it, the Billy.

480
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: We're not really going to do a car review this week.

481
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: I mean I haven't really driven anything that set the

482
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: world on fire.

483
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: Oh.

484
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: I did have the G eight EV, which was like, yeah,

485
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it. It's complicated,

486
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: it looks nice. It was that fetching green with the

487
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: sort of chestnut leather interior.

488
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's still looks nice, but.

489
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 1: Yeah it's nice. It's still looking at about god, how

490
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: much was that? I think it was north of one

491
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: forty Yeah.

492
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is compromised because all of the battery equipment

493
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: they've put in. It raises the height of the floor

494
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: and it's impossible to sit in the back with your toes,

495
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 2: and then in the front you sit really high as well.

496
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: It's just a really awkward car to sit in.

497
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: I love smooth Carter, heavy and smooth, Like wow.

498
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: I did like that they fit the solar panels to

499
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 4: the roof. I thought that was pretty cool.

500
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was a gimmicky. I would much rather

501
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: a sun roof.

502
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 4: Please, well, like, what's it.

503
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: Going to do? Like, honestly, you would get in that lifetime,

504
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: you'd get half Like if you banked all that up,

505
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: you'd get maybe a what a full charge in eleven years.

506
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more to condition the car and run the

507
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: cooling systems and stuff like that. But it sounds like

508
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: it's not good enough for.

509
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: Some not good enough for me. No, no, no, give

510
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: me mych donic. Please give me mystnic. By the way,

511
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: we found the best ute of the year. Jayes, you

512
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: wasted a lot of time. I could have told you

513
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: this before you started it.

514
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

515
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: So let me preface this by saying this is Australia's

516
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: and perhaps even the world's most comprehensive ute test and

517
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: it was quite satisfying when we we published the winner

518
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 2: of our ute test and another website, Please.

519
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: Do not men, no, do not get us in any

520
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: more trouble. I run out of money for the month

521
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: and I cannot pay another fucking lawyer. Okay.

522
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: On the website also ran a ute test that was

523
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: significantly undercooked in comparison, and in the comments section.

524
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: Of the video, Let's said that they leave the ute

525
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 4: testing to correct but I'm well, hey, it's obviously wasn't.

526
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: Who was a knob from last week Dave melb forty six, Yeah,

527
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: who called us morons?

528
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 4: And you an idiot or something only I disagree with

529
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 4: at least.

530
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: Where's the lie.

531
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: On the back?

532
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: Dave Melbourne original.

533
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: Day, Dave, you're a massive dickhead, but no offense. Thanks

534
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: for pointing out the obvious shit.

535
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 4: Ed But anyway, so yeah, we went into our ute test.

536
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: We did this late last year and it was an

537
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: eight day ute test, so it took a lot of work.

538
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: Thirteen people involved. We had one guy who won a

539
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: competition on our website, James young bloke, and then we

540
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: had three other blow ins who also helped out. They

541
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: got to stay at incredible accommodation. You should see the

542
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: caravan park and anglesy that we used.

543
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: It was it was.

544
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: I was just about to say that, knowing you, you

545
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: would have put these guys up in some spider filled

546
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: bloody caravan park with old Donna Theres with a just

547
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,239
Speaker 1: really old flappy friggin polo shirt. Not a polo more

548
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: of a more of a like a really sort of

549
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: best and lass Pavlai Come under me Moomir.

550
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: She did try and chuck a leg over one of

551
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: the guys, but we sort of put an end to

552
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: that pretty quickly. But this you test, So we did

553
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: half of it at lang Lang and then the other

554
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: half at another proving ground and Anglesey and we really

555
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: put them through the ring of Anglesy was all about

556
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: off road driving where we had three main tests. One

557
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: was a roller test where we test attraction controls. We

558
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: had an offset mogul as well, which was there to

559
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: test four will drive systems. And then there's forty five

560
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: forty five percent grade that was bloody steep and uneven

561
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: that was testing low range and also differential locks. Then

562
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: at lang Lang we did a range of testing. We

563
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: did drag race. We also did a towing test where

564
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: we actually use some pretty awesome equipment from Holden's old

565
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: development days. So we used a trailer Dyne, which is

566
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: basically a sixteen hundred kilo trailer, and inside the trailer

567
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: it actually has the rear DIF assembly of an old commodore,

568
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: but that DIF assembly is attached to a retarda that

569
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: can add up to ten killing mutants of load to

570
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: the trailer, so it simulates the vehicle driving up a

571
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: very steep hill with a fully loaded trailer, and using

572
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: that we're able to benchmark the cars against each other

573
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: with a trailer dine setting at three killing Newtonts. We

574
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: also used a hill road with a b get a

575
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: sort of caravan style trailer to test what they were like.

576
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: The hill road was interesting because there was a grade there.

577
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: I think it was a fifteen percent grade. This thing

578
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: was bloody steep and with a twenty five hundred kilo trailer,

579
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: it was flat to the board in some of these

580
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: utes and they were only just gaining speed And I

581
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: find that slightly alarming because some of the utes are

582
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: rated up to thirty five hundred kilos. We were a

583
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: ton short of that, and you know, you just think

584
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: to yourself, some of these utes you just wouldn't dream

585
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: of toweling three and a half tons, And that was

586
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: with one person in the car. Imagine loading the family

587
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: in and getting it up to payload and GVM. So yeah,

588
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty pretty interesting. And the final test that

589
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: we did was a dino test to see how efficient

590
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: these drive lines were. So yeah, before we get to

591
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: the main winner, our off road test, who do you

592
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: think won.

593
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: That ooh off road and I haven't seen these results.

594
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 4: By the way, thank you for supporting us.

595
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

596
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: I don't listen to your radio show either.

597
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you listen to me? What did your podcast

598
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: once in a while?

599
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: An idiot?

600
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. The Izuzu.

601
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: No, my actually did quite poorly because of the traction

602
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: control being shit house. It was actually the Jeep Gladiator. Yeah,

603
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: rear dif flock, front diff lock, disconnecting sway bars, like

604
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: it is a proper, proper off road vehicle, and that

605
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: it looks.

606
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: Cool too, just honestly looks like a fucking gi joker, Like, yeah, exactly, like.

607
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: You could flee an impending apocalypse in that thing, and

608
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: I actually loved a Few years ago, I went to

609
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: Seema and they had one that had had an Hellcat

610
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 2: engine swap, so they took out the sort of asthmatic,

611
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: naturally aspirated V six petrol engine and just dropped in

612
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: a supercharged V eight, And I'm like, that would be

613
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: extremely dangerous to drive.

614
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 4: But I love it.

615
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: I've got a whole bunch of utes coming up that

616
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: we're going to be reviewing. I'm going to make sure

617
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: that's at the top of the least, I want to

618
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: like get that earlier, get that on the show earlier

619
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: than we had planned, because yeah, I saw that. I

620
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: it on Friday again and I was like, fuck, it's

621
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: a long car, like it's a bit huge long car,

622
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: and you know, just just weird things I sort of noticed.

623
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: And maybe this is because you know, having trade like

624
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: my dad being a trading and stuff. You look at

625
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: a ude and one of the first things I think

626
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: about is, you know how you're going to lock the

627
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: back up and stuff. That thing just has like a

628
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: canvas kind of cloth rolled up.

629
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: Well it's even Betty. You can take the roof, the

630
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: doors and the windscreen off. Yeah, so you can actually

631
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: drive this thing around with no roof and doors and

632
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: the windscreen folded down. It is like it's a pretty

633
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: unreal package. Like this is unlike anything else out there.

634
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 4: I think. I think it is a really cool setup.

635
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: By the way, that's not on the road, by the way,

636
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: that's off froud. You can do that, right, you can't, sure,

637
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: you can't legal you.

638
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: You just throw shit at people next to year fucker

639
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: that wouldn't throw a banana at them, And then over

640
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: on on our towing test RAM fifteen.

641
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: It took that out.

642
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: That thing is unreal, like it was towing without even

643
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: recognizing there was a load on the rear that naturally aspirated.

644
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: V eight is a beast.

645
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: It's got a hybrid system in it as well, so

646
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: it's not overly inefficient. One of the tests we actually

647
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: did with the trailer, Dine was trying to break through

648
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: one hundred k's an hour with it, because it got

649
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: progressively harder as the car picked up speed. This thing

650
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: just ripped through it like it wasn't even attached to

651
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: the back of it. And compare that to the Nevara.

652
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: The Navara took twenty nine seconds to get to ninety

653
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: k's an hour and couldn't get to one hundred. The

654
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: Ram got to one hundred in like six seconds or

655
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: seven seconds, like.

656
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: It was so so fast.

657
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: Actually, you love this. I nearly I should have taken

658
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: a photo of it. I saw Zuzuki jimney. Maybe this

659
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: isn't mind blowing to you. It was to me, But

660
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: I saw a Zuzuki jimney towing a caravan.

661
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 4: Oh that's dumb and dangerous.

662
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: It was quite a small sort of a caravan, but

663
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: I was still and you know, it was a new

664
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: modern fiberglass looking thing.

665
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: I was like, God, I wouldn't tell anything with the jymney, stupid.

666
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

667
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: I was like, hang on is that because it was

668
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: sort of parked and I thought, is that attached to

669
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: the to the jymney? Generally when you park, you know,

670
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: you hoisted up on the on the wheel and stuff

671
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: like that. Holy shit, it's still there, like it's still on.

672
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: You should have got a photo because unless it's turbocharged

673
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: or something, maybe it's modified in some way, who knows,

674
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: But that's not a great idea.

675
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a weirdesting idea.

676
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: We actually broke a raptor. So this is the very

677
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: frustrating thing. This happened in end of November last year.

678
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: They had to swap out the Raptor because it started

679
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: developing a drive line wine and I've been chasing them

680
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: for an explanation on why it's happened, and they're.

681
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: Being a little bit cagu with it.

682
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: So I'm going to push them a little harder because

683
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: at this stage it's starting to irritate me and I

684
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: think we're going to end up doing a separate story

685
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: on that, because yeah, we did a lot of dynamic

686
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: testing with the Raptor, and then after the towing test,

687
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: it started making some funny noises from the differential and

688
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: we called them up and said, hey, there's like a

689
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: wine and a rattle coming from the div can you

690
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: come and replace this thing? So they replaced it before

691
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: we were finished doing the toe testing. So yeah, maybe

692
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: in a future episode I'll update everyone on what happened

693
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: with that, because not good.

694
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a lot.

695
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: I had.

696
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: There were a few problems with the Raptor. Yours is

697
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: going fine, though, I mean you you just drive it

698
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: to the milk bar, show off, show off a little

699
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: PAVL and get back in.

700
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm just going to just very quickly jump to one

701
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: side here and just talk about this. I'm going to

702
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: call him a fuck knuckle who ran into the back

703
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: of my Okay, I'm going to call him a fucker.

704
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: No, I think you got it at fuck knuckle. That's fine.

705
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: By the way, we've stopped censoring the show by my request.

706
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: So Dave Melb Yeah, so yeah, he I'm waiting at

707
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: this intersection and he just I could see he was

708
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: about to hit me, and he just ran into the

709
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: back of me and shunted my car forward, and I'm like,

710
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 2: fuck is this guy doing?

711
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 4: And I look up in my mirror and him and

712
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: his dipshit friend were in there going, oh you know

713
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: what happened?

714
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: Anyway, I pulled out from this intersection. I turned left

715
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: and stop, and he turns right and leaves, and I'm like,

716
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: no fucking way, you're getting away from me. So I

717
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: fortunately there was this giant curve with like a median

718
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: strip on it. I drove straight over that and followed him.

719
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: I knew the area well, so I went down a

720
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: side street and he popped out in front of me,

721
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: and I chased him at the speed limit and caught

722
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: up to him. And he got out of the carr

723
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: and shit himself because he thought he got away from me.

724
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: And I said, well, I was a little bit upset,

725
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: but I said, you just no, no, no.

726
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: No, no no no.

727
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: You got out of that car and you chase this

728
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: guy down in hot pursuit, Paul. We need some like

729
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: hot pursuit music. There's Paul. He's going on hot Pursuit.

730
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: Jumps out of the car and you said, and.

731
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: I said, you just hit my car or something to

732
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: that effect, and he goes on anti climax.

733
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: No you didn't, you swore at him.

734
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: Tell me what you really said. I don't want to

735
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: say that. Anyway, He goes, I didn't know I hit you.

736
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you you shunted.

737
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: My car forward.

738
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: Your car's ab would have been going off because it

739
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: was a new car as well. And I took a

740
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: photo of the front of his car back of mine.

741
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: He gets his license out, and he tried to cover up,

742
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: like with his finger when I took a photo, and

743
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: thankfully my phone took a live photo, so I got

744
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: the shot with his name and stuff just before he

745
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: covered it up.

746
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, this guy is so frigging dodgy.

747
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: So anyway, thankfully I got insurance to get it all

748
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: fixed and he's up for the cost and yeah, but anyway,

749
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: so back to our ut test.

750
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, but doesn't that irritate you, because really

751
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: it's just it pisces.

752
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: Me off to knowing because it's a brand new car

753
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: and this idiot just isn't watching and then runs into

754
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: the back of it, and I totally get accidents happened,

755
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: even if I thought I may have hit them.

756
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 4: And the thing is he was driving a six five

757
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 4: and where he hit me, you would see your bonnet

758
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 4: is under my car, like it went under the bumper bar,

759
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 4: so you wouldn't You would know that you hit it,

760
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: even if you thought you may not have, and you

761
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: saw that I pulled over, surely you would pull over

762
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: as well. I'm sorry, you know, you know I thought

763
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 4: I made whatever, but then to try and get away

764
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 4: from me, and clearly try and get away from me

765
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 4: to then have me catch up to you. And I

766
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 4: could see when I when I caught up to him

767
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 4: that it was a bit shock that I was there. Yeah,

768
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 4: I did just really shit me up the wall.

769
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: So and also, is it weird driving around in your

770
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: brand new raptor just knowing that it's just kind of

771
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: been a bit dicked around.

772
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: With Jerry has been popped. Yes, I'm going to all

773
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: that forever.

774
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

775
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: Test and then drag race. We ended up drag racing

776
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: all the cars head to head, wrapped to one that.

777
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: But then we pulled out a TRX RAM fifteen hundred

778
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: TIERERX and did that drag race rappor just loss to that.

779
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: On our Dino test, Toytter Highlucks had the most efficient engine,

780
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: so we basically measured flywheel versus power at the wheels

781
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: so Highlucks won that by only something like eighteen percent

782
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: drivetrain loss between the flywheel and the wheels, which is excellent.

783
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 2: Some of the utes with the bigger tires had something

784
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: like thirty or forty percent drive line loss, which is enormous,

785
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: but that comes down two big tires sort of being inefficient.

786
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: That gets us to our overall winner.

787
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: Yes, and if you do want to check out some

788
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: of these tests, head to car expert dot com today.

789
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 2: You have got stacks of video content there as well.

790
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: Our overall winner, unsurprisingly is the Ford Ranger and that

791
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: is just both all variants four cylinder V six Rapptor.

792
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, so congratulations to Ford for taking that test out.

793
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: I love that. I said to you, of fair, I

794
00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: said which particular Ford Ranger in the portfolio one, and

795
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: you just went all of them, all of them won.

796
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: Its just easier, No, it's just easier to say to someone, Look,

797
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: if you're going to buy you in the segment, the

798
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Ranger is the one you want to get.

799
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 4: My pick would probably be the V six diesel.

800
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: Because that did really well for towing, for the drag race,

801
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: for engine efficiency, like it was a really good all rounder. Ye,

802
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: but if you did have to settle for a four

803
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: cylinder that was fine and did just as good, you know,

804
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: with just slightly less punch than the V six.

805
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: When I got to drive the wild Track, I fell

806
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: in love with that car instantly. I thought it was

807
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: and you know, I tried to put an order in

808
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: and just like I was hoping the would kind of

809
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: have no idea who you were. Yeah, No, it wasn't

810
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 1: even that. It was more just like, mate, do everything legit.

811
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: But I was kind of in my heart of hearts

812
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: thinking they'd speed things up a little bit. After a

813
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: little bit, it was like it's going to be in October,

814
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: and I just went I pulled out. But it's such

815
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: as it's yeah, I know, the story of my life.

816
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: It's an exceptional car. Like it's just it's the absolute

817
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: sweet spot in that whole range. Like the Sport's pretty

818
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: good to me is fucking on steroids and pointless and

819
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, unless you want to try and compensate for

820
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: little Pavlois. But yeah, the wild Track is a car

821
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: you can just jump in and you just automatically feel

822
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: like you could go from one end of Australia to

823
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: the other comfortably the tech and it's great.

824
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: I got to tell you as well. I was shocked

825
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: at how bad the Raptor wasn't stopping from one hundred.

826
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: We measured it for each of the utes and the

827
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: best was I think either the Ram or the Highlux.

828
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 2: The Raptor took almost ten meters longer to stop because

829
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: of the tires, is a huge, huge amount of extra

830
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: stopping distance.

831
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: So that wasn't fantastic.

832
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: Where did the RAM lose out? Because I feel like

833
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: that ticked a lot of boxes.

834
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: Look, the RAM lost out during towing. It was a

835
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: little inefficient, it was off road. A lot of the

836
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: stuff was optional, so you had to option limited slip, differential,

837
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: rear diff lock.

838
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 4: There was no hill descend control.

839
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's just a lot of the stuff really

840
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: should have been standard was optional, so it just lost

841
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: out a little bit here and there. But yeah, the

842
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: Ram is really a really fine dual cab and you

843
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: can see why they're so popular in the States and

844
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: as much as people want to hate them here in Australia,

845
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: you know they really are just an all round it.

846
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: What do you make it?

847
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: The everest, because you'd think it's going to be a

848
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: similar car. Like by similar standards, you'd go, well, you know,

849
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: as an SUV goes, surely that would live up to

850
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: the performance of say a Ranger. But it really to

851
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: me there's something missing about it.

852
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: Look, I like the Everest in V six trim. I

853
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: would like to see them do a Raptor version of it.

854
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, look, I like the Everest. I think it's

855
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: a good good SUV, especially if you do want to

856
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: go off road. If you don't want to go off road,

857
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: I just wouldn't be buying any of that stuff unless

858
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: you're towing and going off road because it is a

859
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: big SUV that is unnecessarily big if you're not using

860
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: it for any of those tools.

861
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not great. Really like it myself,

862
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: but by comparison, if you kind of go the Rangers,

863
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: like the best UT in Australia, this is similar in

864
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Would this be the best SUV?

865
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 3: No?

866
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it won't be the best SUV simply

867
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: because they're all different. But it's the best SUV and

868
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: it's segment, and if you look at it segment, there's

869
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: not really a great deal of inspiring things happening there.

870
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: But that'll all change when Prato gets a new engine.

871
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: I suspect they'll drop a V six in Prato and

872
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: just give it a bit of love and that'll really

873
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: shake things up a little bit for that segment.

874
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 4: So congratulations to.

875
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: Ford, Congratulations to Forward. Didn't you pick well? Yeah, yep, yep,

876
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: I picked really well, didn't you What a coincidence?

877
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: No, it's actually funny.

878
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: A lot of people did ask us if it was

879
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: sponsored by Ford and all that sort of stuff. But

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Speaker 2: the perfect irony is that, I think I've said this

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Speaker 2: before that when it comes to advertising clients with our website,

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Speaker 2: I've actually spent more money with four than they've spent

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Speaker 2: with me with us, which is quite funny.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that that theory goes straight out the window.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to be finally in the same studio

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Speaker 1: next next episode, so please look out for that. I

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Speaker 1: have a little surprise browing away for you. By the way,

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Speaker 1: watch out, yesout. I have a great little surprise, very

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Speaker 1: tru hoping I can pull a few things together, few strings,

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Speaker 1: make a few calls, and looks like it's well on

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Speaker 1: its a way.

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Speaker 2: Interesting interesting as always, if you are listening to this,

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Speaker 2: Atthedriversshow dot com today.

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Speaker 1: You it's two s's by the way, two S is

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Speaker 1: in that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, just again, earlier I mentioned the

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Speaker 2: other website that we did a better job at the

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Speaker 2: test on our YouTube channel is about to become Australia's

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Speaker 2: biggest automotive review channel.

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Speaker 1: The driver Show dot com dot you with one video No.

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Speaker 2: Car Expert is about to overtake a channel that has

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Speaker 2: a name talks about what you do in a car.

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Speaker 1: You pawn.

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Speaker 2: When you put it into what's it's park, reverse, Neutral,

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Speaker 2: what's the last one?

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Speaker 1: Cruise control?

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Speaker 2: No, it's that channel. We're about to overtake them. So

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Speaker 2: good job guys, but yeah, thanks for trying.

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Speaker 1: Just going through the d MS. Hey, big shout out too.

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Speaker 1: I don't I won't say her real name, but her

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Speaker 1: handle is big shout out to missus prestige cars. She said,

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Speaker 1: big fan of the show. Love this, she loved the

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Speaker 1: stoning chat and zippy economical ha ha ha. Can I

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Speaker 1: join the team? Sounds like you need a couple of girls,

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00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: too much testosterone, and I said, agreed, see what I

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Speaker 1: can do. Although Paul has a lovely sheeness.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm just concerned about a woman being near you,

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Speaker 4: like in a room.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I've cleared that with my parole office.

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Speaker 1: So we're good now. Someone said, as a text to

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Speaker 1: go trev Is on ACA, and I just wrote, is

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Speaker 1: he's stealing Telly's again?

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Speaker 4: Dealing Telly's again?

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Speaker 2: We've got to follow up from Michael, who contacted us

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Speaker 2: a while back. You remember with the dealer delivery feast.

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Speaker 1: Oh that guy?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, oh yeah, that guy.

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Speaker 4: So I'll just quickly read it out.

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Speaker 2: It's a longish email, he wrote, I picked up my

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Speaker 2: Genesis GV seventy Diesel Sport.

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Speaker 4: And Luxury pack plus Matt Paint.

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Speaker 1: Wait sorry, chat GPT, can you summarize Michael's long, pointless,

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Speaker 1: boring email into one sentence?

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Speaker 3: Still?

944
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Speaker 1: Can't do it?

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Speaker 2: So he said, I picked up my GV seventy Diesel

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Speaker 2: Sport luxury pack plus Matte paint Melbourne gray with red

947
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Speaker 2: Sevilla interior. Around three weeks ago, he said, I stand corrected.

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Speaker 2: The dealer delivery fee was three thousand dollars during the

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Speaker 2: eleven month waiting period. Wow, there was a rise of

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Speaker 2: around three grand annoying, but I wasn't prepared to join

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Speaker 2: another waiting list, so.

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Speaker 4: Stuck with it. It's a bit shit that they've passed

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Speaker 4: that on to him.

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Speaker 2: I don't love that, and I was only given a

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Speaker 2: verbal price after phoning up Genesis when I got wind

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Speaker 2: of it. I did not receive the new invoice till

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Speaker 2: a few days prior to picking it up, which showed

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Speaker 2: the breakdowns.

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Speaker 4: Disappointing.

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Speaker 2: So regarding my delivery experience for the three K, Genesis

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Speaker 2: was able to deliver my car anywhere as part of

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Speaker 2: the dealer delivery fee, but I chose to collect it

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Speaker 2: myself at Paramatta, only leave one and a half hours away,

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Speaker 2: and wanted the full customer experience. Also like to check

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Speaker 2: the defects before taking delivery.

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Speaker 4: Good idea, he wrote.

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Speaker 2: Upon entering the showroom there was a congratulations sign with

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Speaker 2: my name on it and the car concealed under a cover.

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Speaker 1: Nice yeah, three grand.

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Speaker 2: It was hard waiting for the big reveal as I'd

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Speaker 2: never seen a GV seventy in the flesh before, and

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Speaker 2: I chose to rely on reviews from experts such as yourself,

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Speaker 2: referring to Paul here Champ just what.

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Speaker 1: He said, Champ, No that was you're just chucking that

975
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Speaker 1: in okay, thanks, thanks Tiger.

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Speaker 2: Consumer Reports and looking for potentially she's reported on car

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Speaker 2: owner forums. So the salesman spent well over an hour

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Speaker 2: talking him through the features. He got a gift of

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Speaker 2: a Genesis branded water bottle, traveling coffee container and key ring,

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Speaker 2: a gift basket of edible items. So he said he

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Speaker 2: was impressive the Deally delivery experience, but still can't see

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Speaker 2: why the dealer delivery fees so high even with stuff

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Speaker 2: happening in the back end. I don't see so yeah.

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Speaker 2: The email goes on to say he's happy with the car,

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Speaker 2: so yeah. And also he then mentioned right at the

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Speaker 2: end off topic. Now, but in your last podcast you

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Speaker 2: raised as to whether there is an issue in buying

988
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Speaker 2: Chinese cars. Google the Sky News article how Australian data

989
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: hovering cha hoovering. I think Chinese made cars should be

990
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Speaker 2: secretly sending their private data to the communist nation.

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Speaker 4: I think I actually helped them with that story.

992
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Speaker 2: Companies in China need to have a relationship with the

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Speaker 2: CCP and a whole bunch of stuff there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry, we're just getting a message come through

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Speaker 1: from Peter Jackson. He just wants to make that email

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Speaker 1: into a three part series. By the way, one of

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Speaker 1: the dms we got was from John He said we

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Speaker 1: didn't answer the second half of his question, which was

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00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: do you think whether we think ice cars will depreciate

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00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: quicker with the update of EV's and fans, etc.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe one day it will, but I actually

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00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: think the opposite because the issue they still have with

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Speaker 2: EV's and we're seeing this now on the secondhand Tesla market,

1004
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: they're depreciating very quickly now that there's a stack of

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00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: stock available. You don't want to be buying a secondhand

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00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: EV with the battery of unknown capacity left like it's

1007
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Speaker 2: especially if it's not completely discounted. And we spoke last

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Speaker 2: week about the depreciation of Polestar and other sort of

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Speaker 2: EV brands in terms of their guaranteed financial future plans

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Speaker 2: whatever they're called.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think that, yes, ice cars will continue depreciating obviously

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00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: once EV's sort of hit their stride, But I think

1014
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: that EV's have their own problems at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we're a long way off from

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00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: that too. Even the basic things like EV's are still

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00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: bloody expensive, especially in this country. The foundations aren't really

1018
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: up to scratch where they should be at this point

1019
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: stock wise as well. And also, actually, did you this

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Speaker 1: is an interesting one, did you say, Marcus Brownley Markez, Yeah, yeah,

1021
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Speaker 1: and he said that there was. Tesla had opened their

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Speaker 1: charging to pretty much everyone.

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Speaker 2: So they've opened part of their charging network as a

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Speaker 2: trial to any ev.

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Speaker 4: Look, it's great news for Eve owners because.

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Speaker 2: Typically Tesla's charging network is excellent and functional. The downside

1027
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Speaker 2: is that it means that if you do own a Tesla,

1028
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: that whole uniqueness of having access to a working charger

1029
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: will slowly evaporate when it is busy, and we've seen

1030
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: that over the holidays and stuff.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it look good for Tesla's shareholders, but I

1032
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Speaker 4: think it's a bad thing for Tesla's customers. Not a fan, No, well,

1033
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: why would you want it?

1034
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Speaker 2: Like it's great if you don't own a Tesla and

1035
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: it's great for those manufacturers because they can go develop

1036
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: an EV and just not bother with the charging network

1037
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Speaker 2: and just leave it all to Tesla.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting spot to be in when you are

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00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: kind of relying on Tesla to put in these superchargers

1040
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: in because they're what they're putting in is quality. It's excellent.

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Speaker 4: It works.

1042
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it works, and which is good. The text stuff is,

1043
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: like you've said before, if something sucks up on it,

1044
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: it's generally quickly fixed. Compared to say charge Fox that

1045
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: is just an absolute nightmare. Yeah, it's a spot to

1046
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: be and when you're kind of going, well, I'm going

1047
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: to get an EV, but I'll just have to rely

1048
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: on Tesla charging.

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00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know, we'll see Paul started crying.

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Speaker 1: Jesus by the way, Paul's this isn't this is just

1051
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: going to be an audio only episode unfortunately, because Paul

1052
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: doesn't even realize he's not even talking to a microphone.

1053
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Speaker 1: It's actually a big black dildo of some description microscope

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00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: that is not a microphone, mate, it's.

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Speaker 2: A Yetti USB blue blue YETI it's literally a prosthetic fixed.

1056
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Speaker 4: Well, thank you all for listening. Please leave us a rating.

1057
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think the campaign for getting Trevor to

1058
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Speaker 2: host is slightly building momentum.

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Speaker 1: Slowly, go fuck yourself,