WEBVTT - The Types of People To Avoid & Pursue On Dating Apps 💕

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<v Speaker 1>On Flex and Frooms, Flex and froomes. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, sweety Pies, Goblins, gremlins, little freak sirens and objectively attractive, medium,

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<v Speaker 2>ugly or just hot people. Welcome. We've got a series

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Try something fresh and new, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>you might like it. Actually, Yeah, we were thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>how we want to wrap up some of these conversations

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<v Speaker 2>that feel like they go nowhere on the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>Wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Dating is one of them. Red flag, green flag, it's boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's come through with a bit of a decisive actionence.

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<v Speaker 2>What we did is we decided to think about the

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<v Speaker 2>types of people to avoid or pursue on dating apps,

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<v Speaker 2>and then created a pros and cons list for each

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<v Speaker 2>type of person. We've got the friend, We've got, the

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<v Speaker 2>funny guy. No, we've got the funny person, the freshly single,

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<v Speaker 2>the formal, the long service lever like they're always on

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<v Speaker 2>the apps, the on again, off again, the serial data.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's a type of data that exists, we dissected them.

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<v Speaker 3>Bloody oath, very exciting. Let's get to it. Your flex

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<v Speaker 3>and fromes.

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<v Speaker 2>Keita flex and fromes Flex and Firms by popular demand

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<v Speaker 3>Friends, foes, and our broader community and fans.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, here is a guy to the types

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<v Speaker 2>of people to avoid to pursue when dating the first

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<v Speaker 2>category and the first of many funny people.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we avoiding full stop?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's get into it's with the cons. Let's start

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<v Speaker 2>with the cons. A lot of virtual humor just does

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<v Speaker 2>not translate like it used to. The year is not

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<v Speaker 2>twenty ten, and we don't all follow the same meme formats.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't. I think alsoink humor's gotten like a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit better. And so what happens is if I'm interacting

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<v Speaker 2>with your virtual humor and I'm not getting it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>putting me off you as a whole person when it shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like whenever I post this particular person's tiktoks, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like this guy pretending to be a cringe like Fodoro

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<v Speaker 3>wearing guy that turns into a wolf. I'll lose like

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred followers.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is. It's the price of fame. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>give you a con.

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<v Speaker 3>A con is they could be someone who just jokes

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<v Speaker 3>about everything, so they struggle to like connect properly and

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<v Speaker 3>then everything is a punchline. Yeah, dating a comedian, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get into that banter whirlpool where it's like it's propelling you,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting momentum. It's sick, it's fun, and then you're drowning. Serious,

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<v Speaker 2>Please save me with something that's not a bit and

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<v Speaker 2>is like you know what they say about wetness or

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<v Speaker 2>something dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>It's too much, okay, prose, Prose is laughing obviously, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there is nothing better in this light. Please then laughing

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<v Speaker 3>with someone that you think is hot. There is really

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<v Speaker 3>nothing better that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Why does you sound like you have a gun to

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<v Speaker 2>your head right now? There is really nothing better than

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<v Speaker 2>laughing with someone.

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<v Speaker 3>You think it's hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Even yeah, I say a similar thing that it makes

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<v Speaker 2>an otherwise awkward and maybe exhausting situation like a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit lighter, which is chill, and you might make a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>but we do want to avoid consolation prize friends. I've

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<v Speaker 2>scooped a few of them up over the years, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just can't get rid of them. You can't because

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<v Speaker 2>then you look like a bad person. It's not right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not right. But that is comprehensive Guide number one.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna want to date a funny person, I say,

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<v Speaker 2>buyer beware, for sure, buy beware. Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also mindful of that gag that like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of comedians like deeply depressed and so like they're masking

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<v Speaker 2>all like that inner turn oil with gags, and then

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<v Speaker 2>before you know, when you like find yourself attached and

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<v Speaker 2>in love, you're like, oh my goodness, you're like a

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<v Speaker 2>deeply troubled person and I can't deal with this. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you leave them, it like fulfills their deepest abandonment wound.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, this is a setup. This is a setup,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched enough Simpsons from Krusty and definitely, so I

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<v Speaker 3>show Bob, are you a funny online data? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>am I a comedians? Sometimes you're not showing the ship,

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<v Speaker 3>you're figuring it out between us.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in between.

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<v Speaker 3>We're definitely like in the times I've had dating apps,

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<v Speaker 3>I always put the photo of crack Fop on it

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a really good summation of me as a person.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit grotty, yeah, but also very refined. What

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<v Speaker 3>about you?

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<v Speaker 2>You're with flexing.

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<v Speaker 4>Frooms, You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kata.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is a guide to the people you need to

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<v Speaker 2>either avoid or pursue on dating apps. It's comprehensive. We've

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<v Speaker 2>already gone through the funny archetype. Now we're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the formal archetype.

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<v Speaker 3>Lilian, Hello, So I prose for dating people who are

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<v Speaker 3>for including the fact that they are organized dates right,

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<v Speaker 3>which I personally think is quite a difficult thing to

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<v Speaker 3>come by. In twenty twenty three, there's been a malaise

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<v Speaker 3>that has how do you say.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a blight on the world. It's the real epidemic

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<v Speaker 2>or pandemic. What's a pro a pro to dating formal

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<v Speaker 2>person I think it's that they understand there's a structure

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<v Speaker 2>that needs to be followed and almost like a sequence

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<v Speaker 2>of events that makes sense. So you know, you match,

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<v Speaker 2>You get to know each other, you share information that

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<v Speaker 2>matters vital stats, right, and then if the vibe is correct,

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<v Speaker 2>you escalate. You add layer of intimacy, a layer of intensity.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we go and meet, should we do a phone call?

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<v Speaker 2>Should we do a FaceTime? It might not have the

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<v Speaker 2>pizazz and the passion of someone who's like it was,

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<v Speaker 2>I youre so high, but you're like, Okay, it's moving

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<v Speaker 2>at a pace that I can mightna be my favorite,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can appreciate that, like it's going in a

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<v Speaker 2>direction that's up.

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<v Speaker 3>Con oh, a con. It can be a bit formulaic.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it can give you the impression that they

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<v Speaker 3>do this a lot, which I don't want to leave

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<v Speaker 3>Dolly in the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>But like just coming from inside the house, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>are you here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for a verge. You just feel a bit

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<v Speaker 3>like you're a little too good at this, like when

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<v Speaker 3>someone's gonna moves a little too good. I'm feeling I'm

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<v Speaker 3>feeling like a puppet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bit suspicious. You can't win, can you can't win?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say a con is that sometimes you miss

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<v Speaker 2>out on both assessing chemistry and compatibility. When someone is

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<v Speaker 2>so like buy the book says the thing adds the

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<v Speaker 2>full stop. There's no room for that kind of flow

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<v Speaker 2>that's required to catch a vibe. And now you found

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<v Speaker 2>yourself in almost like a role we're both playing. I'm interviewer,

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<v Speaker 2>you're interviewee. I don't answer a question unless you ask

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<v Speaker 2>a question. I don't add any emojis, I don't say

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<v Speaker 2>anything in jest. We're just like doing back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>round two interview process. I'll tell my people to call

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<v Speaker 2>your people tap vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when I know something's like going wrong, when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not acting to my personal beliefs. Is when you

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<v Speaker 3>don't send emojis, when you're a big emoji sender, like

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<v Speaker 3>if you ever text someone that doesn't use you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, am I a child? Am I immature? Or when

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't like joke in the way that you would.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, they're not going to read this properly. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if I was like, it's the loafer for me, they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, do you own these loafers as well? And

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<v Speaker 2>now I can't. I can't even bit myself. It's giving

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<v Speaker 2>any more pros or cons. No, do you like formal datas?

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<v Speaker 2>That's my time, So I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna need you to text me within twenty four hours and.

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<v Speaker 2>You get that with a formal data? You really do

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<v Speaker 2>you of these like these yahoos who keep playing around

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<v Speaker 2>with like let's just see how we go. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I need intention of marriage within the first five to

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<v Speaker 2>seven days.

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<v Speaker 3>Respectfully, flex and firmes flex and fromes cater never miss

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<v Speaker 3>a beat. Welcome to our series the people to avoid

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<v Speaker 3>or go near when dating.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's called pursue?

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<v Speaker 3>But like word to words, Yeah, this is about people

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<v Speaker 3>who are freshly single.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we've already done formal people.

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<v Speaker 3>Formal people and people were funny. Yes, freshly single a pro.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not speaking from experience because I don't talk

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<v Speaker 3>about my dating life on air on cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm single and loving it. I'm freshly fingle. Please can

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<v Speaker 2>we do that, do not go back into archives.

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<v Speaker 3>A pro would be horny part of my French. They're horny,

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<v Speaker 3>they're freshly single. They're ready to try new experiences if

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<v Speaker 3>that means going out with the quirky girl quirky girls

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere to win for.

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<v Speaker 2>Us, you identify as a quirky girl now because okay,

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<v Speaker 2>saying for the other one quirky derogatory, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>a pro, it's always nice getting a good one back

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<v Speaker 2>on the market. You know, some of the good ones

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<v Speaker 2>are out for two long, four or five year relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, bring some of the six for five kings

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<v Speaker 2>back to the dating pool. I will say.

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<v Speaker 3>Another pro is they usually want something casual, which can

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<v Speaker 3>really work for you if you're a busy, working woman again.

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<v Speaker 2>Not me. Let's do some cons.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the biggest con for me is the emotional labor,

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<v Speaker 3>the toiling that must occur as they talk about their X,

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<v Speaker 3>because as you know they're going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna come up, it's going to punctuate a sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many ways to avoid mentioning an X,

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<v Speaker 2>and these ones just they dodge every time they want

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<v Speaker 2>on a trip with their ex, did a little euro

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<v Speaker 2>trip instead of saying I went with a friend, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>me and my ex?

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<v Speaker 1>Why why shut up?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they put you in a weird category. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to pretend to be like extra cool about this. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>what's her name?

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<v Speaker 3>We're not getting to the age of this, but because

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking, yeah, if we weren't twenty four, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like some people get into the age where the people

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<v Speaker 3>they're dating have kids and they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be like, oh, what's their name?

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<v Speaker 3>It's really hitting different the fine out two cons. Another

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<v Speaker 3>con are they're fatigued and they're also unavailable. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking for something a little bit more serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say there's like a broad emotional unavailability.

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<v Speaker 2>But also just like you don't know the curriculum of

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<v Speaker 2>dating anymore, Like you don't know how things work. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're coming in with Norvis energy, but you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that because the way that we herald relationships is like

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<v Speaker 2>you're an expert. You know people, you know compatibility, you

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<v Speaker 2>know union, and you come out and it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>whole different playing field and you're using twenty and fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>games in the twenty twenty three landscape and I have

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<v Speaker 2>to teach you had it's not like, it's just confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also I think another con is that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the Freshly singles don't allow themselves the time

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<v Speaker 2>to not be on the apps, and so it's like

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<v Speaker 2>there is a small period of time where you're just

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<v Speaker 2>auditioning for rebound and you might not think you are,

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<v Speaker 2>but you are. You're just like keeping the seat warm

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<v Speaker 2>so them and the X can work it out. We're

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<v Speaker 2>just sweet, love you guys as a couple. She seems

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<v Speaker 2>really nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, yeah, what's her handle?

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<v Speaker 2>She's in arees.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't go into diary.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it anyway. So you're into Freshly singles, Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>you seem like it. Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Once a rebound? Never got a rebound?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I will say I'll do a freshly single if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's a good one, because you know, good

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<v Speaker 2>ones hard to come by. You can't let one go.

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<v Speaker 2>You just might have to play the rebound game for

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<v Speaker 2>a bit, you know what I mean, do your time

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<v Speaker 2>if the prize is worth it, ETCETERA.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting flex and FROMES. You're listening to Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>What the frick? Welcome back to Flex and FROMES exclusive series.

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<v Speaker 3>The people to avoid and the people to go near

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<v Speaker 3>when dating online, go near people to.

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<v Speaker 2>I never So far we have done funny people, formal people,

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<v Speaker 2>freshly single people.

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<v Speaker 3>And now the social media jumpers. It's a big title.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the first one that we have done without an

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<v Speaker 3>F in the name, which is very upsetting.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you define it?

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<v Speaker 3>They are people who go from the dating app straight

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<v Speaker 3>to your socials.

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<v Speaker 2>Rush to find you in a different DM rabbit.

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<v Speaker 3>These are the same people that have at mikey three

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<v Speaker 3>one four as their little thing like get to know

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<v Speaker 3>me mikey three one four and then the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the answers on here You're just like a dot because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to answer them.

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<v Speaker 1>The pro of.

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<v Speaker 3>People like this is that you get to SUSSI vive

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<v Speaker 3>very quickly correct. What's one for you?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say you get to see the gaps in

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<v Speaker 2>between someone's curation. We can argue that all social media

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<v Speaker 2>is curated to a point, but the options you get

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<v Speaker 2>to fill in on a dating app don't really do

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<v Speaker 2>someone justice. I think they hide a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>bad things. So, like, I want to go in and

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<v Speaker 2>be able to see if you, if you choose to share,

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<v Speaker 2>be able to see like, Okay, what are your posts

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<v Speaker 2>looking like? What are your highlights looking like? What is

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<v Speaker 2>your tone? What are the saning like? Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>like one too many people in your DM fighting for

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<v Speaker 2>your attention? These are the things that paint a far

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<v Speaker 2>clear picture and also might be a bit unorthodox to say,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to see what your friends look like.

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<v Speaker 2>I always find that sometimes you can't catch a vibe

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<v Speaker 2>for someone. You see why or two friends like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I get what's happening here?

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<v Speaker 3>I get a big con and I have unfortunately see

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<v Speaker 3>this play out irl in real time. Yeah, you never

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<v Speaker 3>meet them. The dates go nowhere? What have I got?

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<v Speaker 3>A random polluting my following list? As my time has

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<v Speaker 3>gone on, the following list has gotten a bit messy.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not gonna lie, I need to go through into

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<v Speaker 3>a sweep.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't know it mattered at one point, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know all we know. I cannot coast time this person

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<v Speaker 2>that I follow, yeah, because they become a demon ghost

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<v Speaker 2>in your dms and it's like, why do you still

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<v Speaker 2>go here? What is your intention to live in my dms?

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<v Speaker 2>Eat up the resources to take up the spaces, clog

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<v Speaker 2>it up with the heart eyes and the fire react.

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<v Speaker 2>It's annoying. The issue with jumping to the social media

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<v Speaker 2>app is that it communicates a level intimacy that's not

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<v Speaker 2>there because suddenly, like the barrier was like, we're on

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<v Speaker 2>this app. You know these apps are for dot dot dot,

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<v Speaker 2>but now you're just in my day to day. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got it all, You've got access to everything, so now

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<v Speaker 2>you feel really close. And again it's like you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the dopamine here. It's like I've gotten to know her,

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<v Speaker 2>like we've achieved I don't need to do anything else

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<v Speaker 2>about that. And I also feel like what happens and

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<v Speaker 2>it's the worst con of them all. You end up

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<v Speaker 2>with that consolation prize relationship where it's like, didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>go anywhere, and now I'm kind of stuck having to

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<v Speaker 2>like slowly nurture it because it's weird if I just

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<v Speaker 2>drop off and block you, because that's just a bit forward.

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<v Speaker 2>But then also it's like, why have we now found

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves in this predictament when we're intertwined what we're you meshed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be messed with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I personally condone the drop off and the block because

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<v Speaker 3>if they say why, you just say because you didn't,

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't pull through, yes, And unfortunately I have enough friends.

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<v Speaker 2>What I will say. While I don't love the social

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<v Speaker 2>media jump, like I don't want that our conversation to

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<v Speaker 2>move to a different platform, I do prefer somebody does.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like their their preliminary stalk on me. Just do

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<v Speaker 2>the stalk, Like, I just think you need to like

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<v Speaker 2>get your information that you need because like when you

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<v Speaker 2>ask what I do and I'm rattling off things, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit confusing when you're like, oh where were you

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<v Speaker 2>this week and I'm like in the sony box watching

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<v Speaker 2>Drake perform. It's not giving. So if you could see

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<v Speaker 2>your own pulminary stork, gather your own ideas, and then

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<v Speaker 2>see if you want to continue, because you're not about

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<v Speaker 2>that life and I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot. They got a lot to look through

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<v Speaker 3>when you search flex mummy, so good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Kings and Queens, fru meno through me boo mummy, lex mom.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Flex and rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>On Kata, we continue our series the types of people

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid or pursue on dating apps. We've done the

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<v Speaker 2>funny person.

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<v Speaker 3>We've done the serious formal person.

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<v Speaker 2>We've done the formal person. We've done the freshly single person.

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<v Speaker 2>We've done the social media jumpers. And we've also and

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<v Speaker 2>today we don't do the newbies.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, fresh meat if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Fresh meat the people who have not had any experience

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<v Speaker 2>on dating apps. We're jumping on for the very first time.

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<v Speaker 2>What are some of the pros?

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<v Speaker 3>First pro is they're sprinkled in between the long service

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<v Speaker 3>sleeve hotties. We all know them, who are the long

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<v Speaker 3>service leaves buddies.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to make sure we're on the same one or.

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<v Speaker 3>Two people that every two years, when you jump out

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<v Speaker 3>of a relationship and get back into the dating scene,

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<v Speaker 3>their profiles seem to still be there. There will be

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<v Speaker 3>one or two pictures of the difference. Of course, I've

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<v Speaker 3>still got a hero image. The hero image is there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a pro.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say a pro is that they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any context, which means they're not bringing in past dating

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<v Speaker 2>app baggage. I think that's what a lot of us

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<v Speaker 2>are struggling with. We can't inject fresh energy into a

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<v Speaker 2>stale environment, and we are the problem. So thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for bringing in some fresh energy just joined. I appreciate cons.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have game.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want someone to come in there be a

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<v Speaker 3>little too smooth, but I don't want you to drop

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<v Speaker 3>your guts just because you've never been on the dating

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<v Speaker 3>app like I've never done before. Okay, scary, No, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like some people make the fact they've never been on

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<v Speaker 3>a dating app a badge of honor.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a personality trait, and it's like, well, you're on now,

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<v Speaker 2>so you want to happened?

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<v Speaker 3>How does a film?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say a con is that we can assume

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<v Speaker 2>that the newbie is aligned with the freshly single, because

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<v Speaker 2>generally people like I've never been on you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>I've been I've been in a relationship since Cinder came out.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in it, you know, and it's okay cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So all you know is like derivative stories and like

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<v Speaker 2>your lived experienced.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes with the newbies is that the dating

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<v Speaker 2>appisolo game to them. They're like, oh, this is like funny, like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you guys do here? And so you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if they are matching or swiping because they're actually interested,

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<v Speaker 2>They're just trying to get the layer of the land.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be a little like trial and error.

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<v Speaker 2>Situation needs someone a little bit more seasoned. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I prefer someone ran.

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<v Speaker 4>Through flex and frooms on Kata.

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<v Speaker 2>Our series continues the types of people to pursue or

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<v Speaker 2>avoid on dating apps. We've done the funny person, the

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<v Speaker 2>friendly person, the freshly single person, the newbie. Now we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing people who are chaotic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Shall I start with a pro please? No? I want

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<v Speaker 2>to start with cons. I want to start with cons please, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say I feel like people barely have time

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<v Speaker 2>for their own friends, genuine issues and like the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of chaos that happens with people you love. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I have time for that with a stranger. If

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<v Speaker 2>you come off the bat acting loopy. They need to

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<v Speaker 2>put you on the BINM sang cons.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to their house and there's mess everywhere and.

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<v Speaker 2>I we've already jump off the app bin stinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, because they're chaos. They're gonna ask you out

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<v Speaker 3>on a Tuesday night, and you're gonna go, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>because you think, of course I would just try something new.

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<v Speaker 2>They're asking you about at eleven forty three am on

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<v Speaker 2>a Tuesday, being like, should be locking for three pm,

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<v Speaker 2>and you say, yeah, of course I'll be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I've just I've got an appointment. Thanks boss.

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<v Speaker 2>They pick you up, and then then they're actually doing

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<v Speaker 2>uber at the same time, and they're kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to just jump in? I finished my

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<v Speaker 2>shift in a couple of hours. Obsess obsessed, Okay, one

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<v Speaker 2>more con for chaos. I just feel like chaos is

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<v Speaker 2>on the opposite end of the spectrum of consistency. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there can be consistency through continued chaos, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like in those early stages, you're looking for that repetition,

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<v Speaker 2>like I can trust that you'll say what you mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be there when you say you will, that you'll

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<v Speaker 2>like make that connection, and I just feel like if

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go back and forth table tennis, in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind, it's gonna get old really quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally feel that. I think as well, if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't know them that well, the chaos can come across

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<v Speaker 3>as indifference or like not keen at all, not keen

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<v Speaker 3>at all, or super keen in a way that's freaking

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<v Speaker 3>me out. Yeah, hot cold, Yes, a pro flex mammy.

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<v Speaker 2>A pro. You can almost guarantee that you won't get

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in that monotonous like, hey, how's your weekend, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, tired to Monday kind of chat. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think at the bare minimum you deserve more than that totally.

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<v Speaker 3>For me stories, I think a lot of modern life

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<v Speaker 3>is going on dates with lots of different people.

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<v Speaker 2>Just kidding what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fun to just have a few freaks in the

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<v Speaker 3>mix literally, just the stories for other normal dates.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's good for content predominantly. Yeah, Like for some

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<v Speaker 2>comparison as well, I would say like in general, chaos

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<v Speaker 2>is quite refreshing. I don't think we get that energy

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<v Speaker 2>a lot in the day to day. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of people where they're token chaos friends

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not even that chaotic, actually quite traditional conservative

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<v Speaker 2>women elied or did I so. I think at the

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<v Speaker 2>very least, it's like it's nice to pick up your

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<v Speaker 2>phone and be like, there's something fresh there for me. Someone.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen this before, We've never done this before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exciting. I feel like if we had to rank

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<v Speaker 2>the types of data so far, ontic ranks quite high.

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<v Speaker 2>Based on what we've said so far, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>rates higher than formal for some people to give a

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<v Speaker 2>second Okay, we'll rank later, we'll rank later, but for now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not it's not it's not a red flag.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you haven't dated many people who are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a red flag. I think it could be

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<v Speaker 2>quite fun. Me and my formal babe Lily And how

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<v Speaker 2>are you hi? I'm really well, thank you? How a

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<v Speaker 2>periods all across literally literally whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to flex and frooms cater.

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<v Speaker 3>This is our comprehensive guide to the types of people

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<v Speaker 3>to avoid or pursue when dating. It's someone who does

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<v Speaker 3>their job and doesn't have to read off a list.

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<v Speaker 3>You've done about six of them already. But I am

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<v Speaker 3>who I am, You are.

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<v Speaker 2>Who you are? We are who we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Dumb, dumb, bumb, dumb, dumb, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Drunk, No dumb, we're dancing like we're drunk. Drunk, No dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn, it's not the anthem I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about people who are passive when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to dating. Yeah, my first pro on being passive. No,

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<v Speaker 3>my first con of dating people who are passive in

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<v Speaker 3>the dating landscape is that they wait for the ball

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<v Speaker 3>to be in your court. As a woman, as a

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<v Speaker 3>heterosexual identifying woman, this could be quite frustrating when someone

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<v Speaker 3>is passive because we have been led to believe for

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<v Speaker 3>many years now that the man must make the first move.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're saying is bring back gender roles.

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<v Speaker 3>I said what I said in the realms of dating, like,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, the ball needs to fall in someone's court.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise you're at a salemate. Let's make the rules rules again.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone did say I'm not sure who. Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>a bro podcast to be a philosopher or a bro podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. How you catch them is how you

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<v Speaker 2>keep them. Maybe that sounds a bit brute, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do think the habits you build in the initial stage

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<v Speaker 2>set the tone for the rest of the relationship if

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<v Speaker 2>no additional work is being done right, because some people

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<v Speaker 2>are like the relationships are what they are, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to work them, You just you just live them through.

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<v Speaker 2>So the conor dating someone passive is that you either

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<v Speaker 2>fall into the shop of being their constant motivator, like

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<v Speaker 2>having to give them permission to invite you, to pursue you,

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you how you are, to whatever. And that

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<v Speaker 2>can be really tiring because it's like this caricature relationship

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<v Speaker 2>where you like, then do you love me? That's not

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<v Speaker 2>really fun. And then also you don't do the tango,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't do a dance. It's not this like reciprocal bounce.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you pulling the strings, you having the hard conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>you asking them out, and then you get to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where like are you just here because I dragged

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<v Speaker 2>you here? Or do you want to be here? And

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<v Speaker 2>they don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>I love my partner?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>A pro is that once you get to be with them,

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<v Speaker 3>you charge you stand is jumping You can't even in

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<v Speaker 3>the initial not like when you fall in love. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking initial, but what it doesn't we do need to

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<v Speaker 3>think about the next steps when you have eventually you know, coupled,

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<v Speaker 3>consciously coupled, when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Dragged them into commitment, when you've got them in a headlock,

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<v Speaker 2>do you love me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>It's then that you realize that you're ungastly because I

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<v Speaker 3>think when someone's passive, you can feel like they're not interested.

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<v Speaker 3>Then once you are together, you're like, oh, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>gas anymore because you would just always like this.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pro is, once you develop an anxious attachment

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<v Speaker 2>style with this person, because they won't pursue you with intention,

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<v Speaker 2>in about four to six months time, you'll then realize

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<v Speaker 2>it's just how they are, and then you remain in

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<v Speaker 2>your anxious state because they're just passive. Pro exactly, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say another pro got a few to rattle off.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's good practice to pursue someone with intention,

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<v Speaker 2>and very specifically, you can't both be passive and so

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<v Speaker 2>somebody has to develop a leadership role and no shade.

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<v Speaker 2>But too many of you have been too comfortable being

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<v Speaker 2>the metaphorical pillow princess of the dating dynamic, just waiting

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<v Speaker 2>to receive, waiting to receive, it's a good exercise and

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<v Speaker 2>being like all the snakes are kind of high, or

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<v Speaker 2>it is kind of nerve wracking to us somebody out,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's kind of nerve wracking to tell someone you

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<v Speaker 2>like them. But it's a good skill to have and

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<v Speaker 2>use once in your lifetime.

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<v Speaker 3>And retire and retire. I gotta say every shot you

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<v Speaker 3>don't take, you miss miss someone, throw your dignity away,

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<v Speaker 3>ladies and gentlemen, and just go for what you Everyone

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<v Speaker 3>don't make me stressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Is quite as stresful th Again.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a very stressless series.

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<v Speaker 1>Shaking flex and Frooms said the best. What a duo.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be discussing the pros and cons for

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<v Speaker 3>people who have been doing long service leave on the apps.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean? It's your hotties have been putting

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<v Speaker 3>in five to seven years on the apps. You've seen

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<v Speaker 3>them five years ago, you got into a relationship, jump

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<v Speaker 3>back on the bandwagon long and behold, they're still there.

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<v Speaker 3>They might have gone through a few rounds, but they

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<v Speaker 3>haven't got to have the system and they're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it take a long service lever to know a

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<v Speaker 2>long service leaver? Like the calls coming from inside the

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<v Speaker 2>house currently I'm here or you were you?

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost giving like if we're both single at forty

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<v Speaker 3>one more year. Okay, A pro about dating someone who's

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<v Speaker 3>on long long service leaves on the app is that

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<v Speaker 3>they know what they're doing, do.

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<v Speaker 2>They though, Like, let's really unpack that one for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, okay, a second pro you've got they would

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<v Speaker 3>have amazing stories. They've gone on multiple dates. Okay, they've

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<v Speaker 3>they've increased the age rains, have increased the location range

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<v Speaker 3>like one.

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<v Speaker 2>Tourists, they've considered at all, and.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sure they'd have some tales from the top

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<v Speaker 3>ending beyond. If we do a.

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<v Speaker 2>Ven diagram of the long service leavers and the passive datas,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a circle. Wow, one more time, we

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<v Speaker 2>do a ven diagram of the long service leavers and

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<v Speaker 2>the passive datas, I think it's a circle. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they often are the same types of people wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>be picked, you know, waiting to reciprocate energy, as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to going out there swiping, matching, going on a few

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<v Speaker 2>good dates, making a connection, et cetera. You might disagree proactive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's hard, it's hard to do. Can't do

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<v Speaker 3>cons don't make me say it, bookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Should I read out what FUMI is put on the sheet.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't write yes you did you send it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So what usually happens is that when we got this,

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<v Speaker 2>when we decide we're going to talk about, we obviously

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<v Speaker 2>have to give Brookie, our producer, a little one two

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<v Speaker 2>one two so she can be prepared with us. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't write anything for this brand. I was going off

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<v Speaker 2>the dome. But what we do have here is Frumy's evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you see right, if you zooming on the

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<v Speaker 2>cons that actually says do you want to read that

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<v Speaker 2>out for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Used goods and jaded, which I'll just say, when you

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<v Speaker 3>work in radio tvto coming out for.

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<v Speaker 2>Me Andrew take community, I'm not. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say it. I didn't want to say it. Look, when

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<v Speaker 2>you work in this field at times the field are

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<v Speaker 2>we're in right now together. Sometimes I've just said a loss,

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<v Speaker 2>like we've done seven of these, I just needed to

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<v Speaker 2>write something down.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it at all. I'm part of that community.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually quite triggering to do these baks if you

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<v Speaker 3>look back at the old I've been holding back to yours. Okay, cry,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Be hard for mes, reruly hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I just closed myself to be single,

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<v Speaker 3>but sorry pre loved.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the secular economy, I love.

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<v Speaker 3>Worn once.

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<v Speaker 2>You never seen any cry.

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<v Speaker 1>This is heating a different.

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<v Speaker 3>Anymore pros.

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<v Speaker 2>You Trims flex and for continuing our series the types

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<v Speaker 2>of people to avoid or pursue on dating apps. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the pros and cons will go through live

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<v Speaker 2>on the opposite end of the same spectrum, in the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that like, what you think is a pro could

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<v Speaker 2>be a con if you looked at it differently.

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<v Speaker 3>Scary.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about serial datas. Let's start with a cons.

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<v Speaker 2>Being an option in dating is an undeniable part of

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<v Speaker 2>the journey of the process. Knowing that upfront that you're

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<v Speaker 2>just an option is extremely challenging, so hard. It's nice

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<v Speaker 2>to live in the fantasy that the person you're dating

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<v Speaker 2>has like matched you and then unmatched. Every single person

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<v Speaker 2>reports to anyone that comes up on the feed debt

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<v Speaker 2>to them. Not the case.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very hard to conceive. A con is if you're

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<v Speaker 3>an innocent girlie who's just been around the traps not

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<v Speaker 3>very often you meet someone and you really like them,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it can be too hard to imagine that

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<v Speaker 3>there's other options on the go, it's quite hard for

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<v Speaker 3>the ego and so therefore you are forced to go

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<v Speaker 3>and do some therapy, and that costs money.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pipeline I can't for data to traumatize therapy goer.

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<v Speaker 3>The con of consummating or conversationalizing with a serial data

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<v Speaker 3>is you may very well need therapy before, during, and after.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the three parter I understand. I sometimes feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the person with the most options has the most power, presumably,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you might find yourself feeling like the future

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<v Speaker 2>of the relationship is never in your hands, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>just waiting for them to decide if they're gonna pick you,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna pick someone else. You know, that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>good feeling and you probably can't escape that. And if

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<v Speaker 2>they're an inem, they're an m they're gonna be open

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<v Speaker 2>about their dating and the dating prospects, and like you

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<v Speaker 2>can try and convince yourself that you're like emotionally resilient,

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<v Speaker 2>you can handle that conversation. Babe, she seems that. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's be real.

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<v Speaker 3>Pro Yes, a pro a pro of a serial data

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<v Speaker 3>do it to us is that you know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>know someone who dated them.

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<v Speaker 2>Reference check reference check. I love a reference check. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't do them often, but I'll always give one. If

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<v Speaker 2>you ask, I'll give you one.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to f around to find out. And

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<v Speaker 3>the reference check like you have to take it with a

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<v Speaker 3>grain salt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you don't want to be getting them too

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<v Speaker 2>early on too like fact, you've just been introduced, now

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing references.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had some reference checks that have been like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he like goes to me on a date and I

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<v Speaker 3>got to say, look, he said better you than me, babe.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, that actually makes it a lot better. She is, Nah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he pick you? Did he pick you?

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<v Speaker 3>It is also just good to realize that you might

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<v Speaker 3>not be someone's type. It doesn't mean anything about you.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree. Okay. Another pro I feel like sometimes when

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<v Speaker 2>you date a seasoned data it can be a really seamless,

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<v Speaker 2>often euphoric process. You're going through the motions in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that they're choosing, but you at least you're getting somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh, you've done this. You're gonna do the date.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna wine and dine, you're gonna love bomb, gonna

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<v Speaker 2>spend an amazing night. Or three together. Then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like a bizza.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm gonna be like, oh my god, it's

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<v Speaker 2>fine totally, and then the cycle continues could be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a pro?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I think that just like what people struggle

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<v Speaker 2>with in their dating experience is a lack of clarity

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and resolution. Things don't really start or end, so you

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<v Speaker 2>just live in this ambiguous spot, which does more damage

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<v Speaker 2>than you think. It's kind of nice to know like

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<v Speaker 2>someone was into you then they're like, Noah, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>The chat piece, it's like, yeah, maybe it's like I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I used to date someone and didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he may be a playlist. It's so good?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it who I think it is? No?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know? Okay you? Why are you?

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>But he made a playlist. I'm like, there's a good

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<v Speaker 2>playlist and like, granted, I'm sure you like duplicated it

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<v Speaker 2>changed the name like cycled it around, but the track bops.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that experience. In Serial Nata piece to.

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<v Speaker 1>You, you're listening to Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Lastn't Have our series The types of people

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<v Speaker 2>you should pursue or avoid on dating apps.

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<v Speaker 3>What a beautiful series.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 3>Today's installment is people who are on and off.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to be confused with the serial data. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the type of person who has this like really fickle

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with apps. It's like they get on, they're on

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<v Speaker 2>for three minutes, they're deleting. Ah, I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do it. And they're back on next week

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<v Speaker 2>and then they get a fi I can't do it,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do it. It's a very specific person. If

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<v Speaker 2>you aren't them, you know them. If you are them,

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<v Speaker 2>it hits a bit different.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm a half hour girly before getting off going

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<v Speaker 3>on hired.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it a con? What's a con?

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<v Speaker 3>A con is that there's no time to marinate and

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<v Speaker 3>to really assess what's out there. I feel like you

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<v Speaker 3>see one too many hotties or you see one too

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<v Speaker 3>many people that you just think and you freak out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these types of people tell me one thing. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to work in a team. You got

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<v Speaker 2>one foot in, one foot out. You're not putting in

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<v Speaker 2>the energy you want to receive. You log in for

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<v Speaker 2>forty five seconds, You're like, where are they? Where are they?

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<v Speaker 2>Were there and then you jump off, giving yourself no

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<v Speaker 2>time to see if something can you come to fruition

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<v Speaker 2>and also creating this like toxic cycle where your behavior

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<v Speaker 2>validates the issue. Interesting like if you don't stay on,

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<v Speaker 2>you always want to jump off. So just pick And

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<v Speaker 2>also imagine if you had to date someone like you,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you're a seal on an offer, It's like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the person that you're that you would be into

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<v Speaker 2>is a serial on offer and you'll just never meet

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<v Speaker 2>because you can't commit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's a good way to think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>On offers emostally unavailable? Is that what that is?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're anxious avoidant. I believe that would be

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<v Speaker 3>the term. They want something but they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Too scared of like fearful avoidance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. A pro is that

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<v Speaker 3>if you find one of them, they haven't really been

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<v Speaker 3>around the bush. They're freaking out been around the bush,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the right the right bush, and the wrong bush.

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<v Speaker 3>They are probably like very excited to see if they

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<v Speaker 3>match with you, and there's a vibe because you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to change their life, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You're speaking through yourself, and they're probably just really excited

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<v Speaker 2>to get to know you if you happen to see

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<v Speaker 2>them in the first day teen seconds of being back on,

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<v Speaker 2>I said what I said, I will say, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you you did use the phrase you used goods in

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<v Speaker 2>referring to what we call.

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<v Speaker 3>Long service young service leeve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, young long service sleeve. And I will say, there

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<v Speaker 2>is something about knowing the person that you are interested

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<v Speaker 2>in is like ready to dip off the app, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're never having that issue when you're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>are we exclusive and they're like, oh, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going really well, and then your friend's like is this

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<v Speaker 2>them we just matched?

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<v Speaker 3>Or you go back and they've changed their photos, had hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Any other pros?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I would say one more con while we're here.

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<v Speaker 2>While we're here feels like a vicious cycle. Like every

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<v Speaker 2>time you go on and off the app, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>starting a neutral You're actually starting it like in a deficit.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not coming with a fresh, clean slate, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shedding the baggage, ready to see what this place is now,

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<v Speaker 2>you're bringing in that old energy. I mean like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like last time. It's just like last time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like it takes so much work to

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<v Speaker 2>rewire the you think about stuff that you are doomed,

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<v Speaker 2>and you also doom like your closest for people who

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<v Speaker 2>are also dating, because you're like, yeah, I jump back

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<v Speaker 2>on and jump of the because there's nothing there, nothing there.

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<v Speaker 2>You start spreading rumors, you're ruining the vibe you are,

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<v Speaker 2>so I got to jump on and off, but maybe

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<v Speaker 2>don't publicize it every time.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree.

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