1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line from Tourism Central Australia. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: It's the CEO, Daniel Rochford. Good morning to you, Daniel. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning, Katie, Good morning to you. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 3: Listen, Daniel. 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Obviously a couple of flights arriving in Darwin today, international flights. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: Is there any arriving in Central Australia. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: No, Look, we don't have any international flights coming directly, 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: but we certainly will start to see international visitors starting 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: to roll through the region pretty shortly. We're very hopeful 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: for and look, this is great news after what has 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: been a very difficult two years as you know, for 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: our industry, and is a little bit of it's a 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: bit of a morale booster and a bit of light 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: at the end of the tunnel. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I know it's been such a tough time for 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: you guys, Daniel. With those international borders opening. How soon 18 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: do you reckon you are going to see some international 19 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: travelers back in the Red Center. 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: Look, one thing I've seen from all of Tourism Australia 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: is advertising, is the showcasing of U LaRue and we're 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: just so blessed to have one of Australia's key tourism 23 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: icons in our destination and look, I'm sure, well it's 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: a matter of hours and before we start seeing visitors 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: roll through to our region, and look, that's going to 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: be good. And then hopefully we'll see them starting to 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: permeate throughout Central Australia and the wider Northern territory and 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: they'll be enjoying the experiences. And look, but you know, good, 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: this is going to be a marathon, not one hundred 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: meter sprint. You know, I was hearing the of the 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: Brisbane Airport saying they're not expecting international numbers to be 32 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: at pre COVID levels until twenty twenty four, so you know, 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: they're still a long road to go. But you know, 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: this is a great first step and we haven't had 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: much to celebrate in tourism for a long time and 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: we've got this decision. And then of course this morning 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: the Deputy Prime Minister's announced the or over six hundred 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: million dollars for the ceiling of the Outback Way, and 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: yesterday out into the alban Easy announced two hundred million 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: dollars including funding for the feeling of the Maruny loops. 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: So some pretty awesome news coming our way through the 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: last couple of days. 43 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: There is some good news and we all certainly know 45 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: that there's a federal election looming because all of a 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: sudden we've got the elected members all around the Northern territory. 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister was there on Friday, and I know 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: that he was forced to really answer some questions about 49 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: the crime situation as well for Central Australians at the moment. 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Did that provide locals and indeed the tourism industry with 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: any confidence. 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it's good that the PM met with our 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: mayor and for your listeners, we've got a dynamic young 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: man now in Matt Patterson, and he's put forward a 55 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: strategy of advocating for a regional deal to actually deal 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: with some of the causal issues rather than the symptomatic ones. 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent and the tourism industry is one 58 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: hundred percent behind that. It's great that Chief Minister gon 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: has said publicly came out and supported that regional deal 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: last Monday. We need to get behind our locals here. 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: This needs to be a bottom up approach rather than 62 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: a top down approach. And I'm one hundred percent behind 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: Matt Patterson's strategy here and hopefully it's GOMO and hopefully 64 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: all our leaders are listening and they put their hands 65 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: in their pocket and support our community. 66 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: Well, I think they have to. 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: You know, I was going through the latest crime stats 68 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: for Central Australia just a short time ago, just before 69 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: ten o'clock, and those commercial break ins for that last 70 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: quarter were up eighty percent. 71 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: Daniel. 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: I know you're obviously tourism, you're not with the Chamber 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: of Commerce, but you know there's no doubt that it's 74 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: had a real impact for so many different businesses. 75 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely too, is in Central Australia where we are 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: the largest business association in Central Australia and with over 77 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: just under four hundred members, and you know our members 78 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: have are impacted on this every day. And I've just 79 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: noticed that the tensity of the crime. We're starting to 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: get some serious assaults and you know, these are things 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: that we have to take the bill by the horn 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: on and it's not just about throwing police resourcing. We 83 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: have to deal with the cause, not the symptoms. So 84 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: you know, we have to get all of this because 85 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 2: if we don't, we can throw millions of marketing money, 86 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: but people just won't come here because they're too scared. 87 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: That's exactly right, hey, Daniel. 88 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: One of the other issues that you have had as well, 89 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: that a lot of people probably aren't actually aware of, 90 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: is that there's been quite a bit of flood damage, 91 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: as I understand, and in the West McDonald National Park 92 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: what exactly has happened there. 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: Look, you know just recently we had that flooding events 94 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago and there has been mass damage 95 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: throughout the National Park area. And we're really deeply concerned 96 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 2: about this Arkadie in as much that for the first 97 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: time in two years, in early April, we're going to 98 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: start to see tourists come flood back to Central Australia 99 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: and if we don't put some haste to the work 100 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: that needs to be done here, all of those is 101 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: that are going to seize closed signs. I'm hearing reports 102 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: of the Larapinta Trail being very badly damaged. I'm hearing roads, 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: you know, it's basically for wheel drive access into some 104 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: of our icons like Ormiston Gorge. The Ellery Creek Road, 105 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: which was actually getting sealed at the time, has just 106 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: been completely destroyed, and likewise with the Owen Springs Road, 107 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: so and also paths and work. That's paths that are 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: being completely washed away. What we need from our government 109 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: at the moment is absolute haste here to try and 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: get some of this work through. You know. I know 111 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: organizations like Stanley Chasm, who are not for profit organization, 112 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: they had a working bee yesterday and they started to 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: get things done. But I'm just a bit worried that 114 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: if we don't put haste to this, are going to 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: see close signs or all our major tourism my coons, 116 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: which is what I define is the worst case scenario 117 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: for tourism in Central Australia after two years of not 118 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: having tourists and finally welcoming them and all they can 119 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: see is close signs. 120 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. 121 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: Can you imagine you travel from overseas, you get all 122 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: the way to Central Australia, you think you're going to 123 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: see all these amazing things and then you're seeing closed signs. 124 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: It would be terrible, terrible situation for those international tourists 125 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: or inter state and local tourists. 126 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then terrible for our economy and terrible for 127 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: our reputation. So you know, we're finly calling upon the 128 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: government to really put some energy behind this to move 129 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: heaven and literally earth to try and get the sticks 130 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: before early April. We've got Pajma, which is the town 131 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: so completely sold out for early April, and you know, 132 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: we really need to get some of this done before then. 133 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: So really the government, you need them to step in 134 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: here and to make sure that this damage is rectified 135 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. 136 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: Very much, Okatie. And look, you know we do appreciate 137 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: that this is you know, natural disaster a situation. 138 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: But. 139 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: We need our government to support us on this one 140 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: because otherwise it's going to be really detrimental to our sector. 141 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: And Daniel, can I just confirm obviously with the West 142 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Max it does fall under the Northern Territory Government's management, 143 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: does not. 144 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a jointly managed park between the traditional owners 145 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: and the Northern Territory Government and as part of Parks 146 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: and Wildlife. Fortunately, what's really good to hear is Wataka 147 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: and the East Max haven't been as badly damaged, but 148 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: in particular the West Max. You know, I've some of 149 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: the pictures I've seen are really catastrophic and we need 150 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: to put we need to move heaven and Earth on 151 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: this to get our national parks open for what will 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: be hopefully are very busy tourism season. 153 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: All right, we might get in contact with the Minister 154 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: for Park's office to see what work is going to 155 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: get underway and just how quickly that work's going to 156 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: get underway. Thank you very much for making us aware 157 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: of that, Daniel Rochford, always good to speak to you. 158 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your time this morning, appreciate it. 159 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: Thanks