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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just.

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Speaker 1: On answers Now Gooday.

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Speaker 3: This is doctor Justin Coulson, the founder of Happy Families

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Speaker 3: dot com dot a you, dad to six, daughter's husband

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Speaker 1: Co host on chann Lyin's Parental Guidance.

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Speaker 3: Also the host of this podcast, that Happy Families Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening and allowing me into

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Speaker 3: your life to hopefully be useful in making your family happier.

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Speaker 3: Right now, school holidays in Queensland, which means that I'm

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Speaker 3: doing my best to spend as much time in the

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Speaker 1: The girls as I can.

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Speaker 3: Today's guest is somebody who runs a business called EQ

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Speaker 3: Minds EQ meaning Emotional Intelligence EQ Minds.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Chelsea Pottinger.

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Speaker 3: Chelsea is going to be joining me for the Happy

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Speaker 3: Family's Hot Mess Summit along with Amanda Keller and Ian Kerner,

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Speaker 3: the author of She Comes First and So Tell Me

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Speaker 3: about the last time you had sex. Doctor Shafali Sabari,

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Speaker 3: Oprah's parenting expert Amy Taylor, the author of Mumma Rising,

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Speaker 3: the one who helps to empower Mums and Jessica Rowe.

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Speaker 3: There are so many people at world class lineup and

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Speaker 3: an incredible summit.

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Speaker 1: I'm really really hoping that.

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Speaker 3: You're join us for the Happy Family's Summit that's coming up.

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Speaker 3: All the details for that are at Happy families dot

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Speaker 3: com dot you. But today we're having a conversation about

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Speaker 3: emotional intelligence. Well, actually no, that's what we're talking about

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Speaker 3: with Chelsea Pottinger during the hot Mess Summit today, a

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Speaker 3: lightning round with the one and only Chelsea Pottinger.

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Speaker 1: Chelsea, are you ready for this?

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Speaker 4: We are ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Now.

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Speaker 3: Some of these questions, I'm just going to give you

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Speaker 3: of these questions are designed to make you squirm. I

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Speaker 3: how we go.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Tell us how many kids you have and how old

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Speaker 4: One seven? Clara?

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Speaker 3: OK, well, that makes my next question really easy for

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Speaker 1: Is question number two. It's supposed to be a hard one.

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Speaker 4: I know, Yeah, She's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, Clara has to be the favorite? Who

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Speaker 3: do you love the most? Your husband Jay or Clara Clara. Wow,

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Speaker 4: What's your name? He would say exactly the same.

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Speaker 3: What's your ideal number of kids?

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Speaker 2: One you know you're going through post natal it has

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Speaker 2: I would say, it's the if you're not eating all

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Speaker 2: The biggest win as a mum would be when Clara's

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Speaker 4: I'll be a champion by summer. Yeah, I love it,

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Speaker 3: You know what I love about that, though, is every

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Speaker 1: We get so much.

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Speaker 1: It's It's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Chelsea Pottinger, acclaimed keynote speaker, author and somebody who has

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Speaker 1: It's been a delight. Thanks so much for joining me

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Justin for having me.

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