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Speaker 1: Now, as we know, and as you may have heard

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Speaker 1: consumer prices rose six point one percent for the year

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Speaker 1: the anglic CEO. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Dave, Good Morningdi.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time this morning. Dave.

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Speaker 1: Now we know that cost of living in the territory,

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Speaker 1: it is high, there's no other way to put it.

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Speaker 1: What kind of impact is it having from your perspective

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Speaker 2: Well, Thanks for asking Katie you look, the cost of

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Speaker 2: impact many of the clients we work with at Anglice

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Speaker 2: here and so people on fixed incomes or on minimum wages,

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Speaker 2: And so now you know, such beg rises. We're seeing

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Speaker 2: us for support with particular food and fuel relief. We

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Speaker 2: do have a smaller amount of mutcy relief. That's is

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Speaker 2: There are many other agencies who do this kind of work.

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Speaker 2: Of course the Salvation Army into the call of food

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Speaker 2: The Food Bank is another awesome organization, as are well known.

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Speaker 2: It's really hard with people just saying, look with the

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Speaker 2: They are really been good.

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Speaker 1: Had now, Dave, I know that when we sort of

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Speaker 1: is is some people who do have a job and

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Speaker 2: That's right. We've seen more people on incomes minimum wages particularly,

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Speaker 1: What a terribly difficult situation to be in. And you know,

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Speaker 2: People go through their their bank statements. Is surprising. How

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Speaker 2: know those service at these times, Katie, how important some

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Speaker 1: Yeah your spot on now. Day four people listening this

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Speaker 1: Maybe they are listening this morning and thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit more about what anglic Care

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Speaker 2: Well. One of the great things about the move in church.

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Speaker 2: it's good for people to know. Look, I can ring reception.

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Speaker 1: in the right direction. Dave, before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: You know, with these inflation rates, the highest that they've

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a really good decision recently by fair

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Speaker 2: but it's not keeping up to six point one percent increase.

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Speaker 2: So we do need to see the federal government say, look,

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Speaker 2: I do think the NT is you need in terms

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Speaker 2: based on need. The government can't afford to appass all

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Speaker 2: the challenges in the NT. We do need federal government

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Speaker 1: a chat with us. Thank you