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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, the deinfluencing trend that's threatening

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Speaker 1: to change influencing as we know it. One Tiktoker's fridge

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Speaker 1: divides the Internet, The Year of the Power Bob, and

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Speaker 1: Madison Woolly admits to stalking her then X's love interest.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Kate Torbaugh and Sophie. It appears you're living the life

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Speaker 1: of a mother of two at the moment. That sounds

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Speaker 1: really random, but it was quite funny because I get

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Speaker 1: my groceries delivered to me every week. I'm that lazy

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Speaker 1: person that just orders them online. And Brandon had nicely

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Speaker 1: put our groceries away, and he said he got a

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Speaker 1: little surprised because as he was looking into one of

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Speaker 1: the bags, he was pulling out all these items that

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Speaker 1: we never order. So there were kids, yogurts, ice creams,

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Speaker 1: and then he pulled out some nappies and he's like,

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Speaker 1: what is going on? So I feel like I have

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Speaker 1: been living someone else's life. I feel like it's kind

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Speaker 1: of pervy to see what people order, but it's actually

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Speaker 1: worked out really well, I'm enjoying my kids ice creams

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Speaker 1: and all the food that's in there for them, the nappies.

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Speaker 1: Is this a common occurrence because I've never done the

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Speaker 1: woolies or coals online shop. Yeah, I've had it happened

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Speaker 1: to me twice in over a year. Is this like

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Speaker 1: a marketing employee by the shops to give you an

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Speaker 1: extra bag of all these foods you never normally get

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Speaker 1: so you buy more. Well, I'm definitely going to be

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Speaker 1: buying these little bullet ice creams again.

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Speaker 2: I've been loving them.

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Speaker 3: It Being rich means out laws of free time. And

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Speaker 3: in that free time, I decorate a fridge. This is

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Speaker 3: a normal fridge. There is a fridge I bought just

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Speaker 3: to decorate. I've got trees in there, foss bottles, and

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Speaker 3: a picture of my cat. Yeah, a picture of my

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Speaker 3: cat in the fridge. And if you think that's weird,

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Speaker 3: well you're just jealous because you're poor.

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Speaker 1: The inside of a Tiktoker's fridge has divided the Internet.

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Speaker 1: Gen Zeta Eve Scampolli has sparked a new trend known

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Speaker 1: as fridge decorating. So, firstly, who is Eve? Well, Eve

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Speaker 1: is an American twenty something girl who goes by the

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Speaker 1: handle Garden of Eve, and she has attracted thirty two

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Speaker 1: thousand followers and millions of views by posting inspirational videos

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Speaker 1: of air fridge now organization of So they're not really.

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Speaker 2: New to TikTok.

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Speaker 1: They have been trending since covid. However, what makes Eve's

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Speaker 1: videos a bit different is that she has taken it

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Speaker 1: up or not. So she shows how.

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Speaker 2: To decorate the inside of the fridge.

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Speaker 1: So these decorative touches have nothing to do with food,

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Speaker 1: and Eve says, it's all about creating a masterpiece. It's

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Speaker 1: what do you mean, what is actually in the fridge? Well,

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Speaker 1: Eve has lots of different decorations inside her fridge. So

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Speaker 1: one that caught my attention and a lot of others

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Speaker 1: is that she has a frame photo of a cat.

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Speaker 1: So this miniature photo sits proudly on the top shelf.

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Speaker 1: I personally think this is an adorable idea. She also

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Speaker 1: continually stocks her fridge with fresh flowers, so at the

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Speaker 1: moment she has gypsoffola in there.

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Speaker 2: She also has.

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Speaker 1: Eight individual glass mini bottles filled with supplements. She has

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Speaker 1: a perfect row of voss glass water bottles and a

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Speaker 1: very fancy box of chocolates. Now, when it comes to food,

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Speaker 1: everything is styled, of course, so she's got baby carrots,

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Speaker 1: slice mushrooms and trimmed beans, which each have their own

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Speaker 1: designated decorative container. And of course she doesn't just have

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Speaker 1: a eggs sitting in a carden. They are displayed and

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Speaker 1: they even look quite artistic with a variety of white, tanned,

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Speaker 1: and dark brown eggs. She also has thirty odd cans

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Speaker 1: of light beer in her fridge, which she arranges, of

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Speaker 1: course in Prestine Roads, and someone even commented that she

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Speaker 1: was giving starving alcoholic vibes. I've got to ask, does

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Speaker 1: Eve have a partner because I can't imagine, and I

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Speaker 1: don't want to generalize, but a man putting up with

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Speaker 1: this type of fridge or he would ruin it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now she is single.

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Speaker 1: At the moment, she appears to be a college student,

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Speaker 1: so she's living her best life.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I can't say I'm surprised that Eve is a college student.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering when that she gets a full time job

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Speaker 1: She said that her aim is that when she has kids,

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Speaker 1: the fridge is going to stay exactly the same. I

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Speaker 1: guess we'll have to see. Can you imagine how sitting

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Speaker 1: for somebody and finding that their fridge was like this, Well,

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Speaker 1: I want to know where like the random takeaway containers

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Speaker 1: prep in general, because it seems like you wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: able to live in a house like that. It's quite

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Speaker 1: clear that she's living the single girl lifestyle where you're

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Speaker 1: going out for most dinners, you're going out for lunches,

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Speaker 1: and your fridge serves the only purpose of being decorative. Now,

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Speaker 1: for a dream, it's your ridge. But if you're a

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Speaker 1: college student, how are you affording just to decorate your

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Speaker 1: fridge with food and flowers? Living in a cost of

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Speaker 1: living crisis? Well, As always with TikTok, Eve was met

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Speaker 1: with some mixed reception towards her fridge. Some people admired

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Speaker 1: the design, saying that she'd unlock this new inspiration within

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Speaker 1: them and that it was giving school lock of vibes,

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Speaker 1: which they loved. Others praised the cat photo, saying that

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Speaker 1: it inspired them to do the same thing. Of course,

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Speaker 1: there were other people who seemed quite enraged by this concept.

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Speaker 1: So one user wrote, we now decorate fridges in twenty

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Speaker 2: This is a first for me.

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Speaker 1: I hate twenty twenty three already, whilst another said you

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Speaker 1: absolutely can't make a meal out of anything in there.

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Speaker 1: Someone else made a really good point. They said, inflation

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Speaker 1: making people decorate bear fridges, I'm dead. If she didn't

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Speaker 1: have TikTok, would she actually be doing this? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: wonder when it started because because I feel like with TikTok,

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Speaker 1: as you said earlier, So if we're all used to

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Speaker 1: seeing the very organized fridges, but people have to take

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Speaker 1: it up and not in order to get noticed. So

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Speaker 1: I suppose putting a bunch of flowers and a picture

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Speaker 1: of your cat is getting that cut through for eve.

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Speaker 1: I can see why people are annoyed though, because it

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Speaker 1: seems like it's now something new. We have to be ashamed,

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Speaker 1: or we can't just be ashamed that our fridge is

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Speaker 1: a little bit messy. It's also now that it's not decorated. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but who is actually expecting normal people to?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I completely disagree, Amy. I don't know why everyone has

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Speaker 1: to be so personally offended by everything these videos, Like

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Speaker 1: most TikTok videos. They're designed for a very niche corner

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Speaker 1: of the Internet who find these videos inspiring.

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Speaker 2: And for me, this sort of.

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Speaker 1: Content actually relaxes me and it helps.

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Speaker 2: Me switch off.

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Speaker 1: I find it ultra soothing and aspirational. I mean, does

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Speaker 1: my fridge look like this at all? No, it couldn't

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Speaker 1: be further from this aesthetic. But I don't think because

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Speaker 1: someone shares something on TikTok, it's saying that you necessarily

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Speaker 1: have to do this too. I'm here to de influence

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Speaker 1: you and help you save money. I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: what you don't need that might be better instead. The switch

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Speaker 1: has been flipped on influencing, with TikTok creators and regular

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Speaker 1: consumers now telling you what not to buy. The trend

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Speaker 1: is called de influencing and it's going viral with over

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Speaker 1: seventy six million views.

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Speaker 2: Amy. What exactly is de influencing.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's all about content creators encouraging people not to

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Speaker 1: buy or use something. So creators in general TikTok users

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Speaker 1: are coming clean on the products that TikTok made them buy,

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Speaker 1: and they're urging people not to buy into the hype.

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Speaker 1: So this is massive for the influencer industry because it

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Speaker 1: goes against its sole purpose of using content creators to

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Speaker 1: influence consumers to actually buy things. I have been seeing

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Speaker 1: this trend everywhere on TikTok at the moment, Kay, what

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Speaker 1: is the reason for it? Well, I think there are

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Speaker 1: several reasons why this trend is blowing up. Firstly, the

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Speaker 1: state of the economy. The fact that we're entering a

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Speaker 1: recession means people are starting to look very closely at

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Speaker 1: their spending and consumption, and people are also becoming acutely

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Speaker 1: aware of over consumption and how influencer marketing is playing

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Speaker 1: a big role in this. We're also at a time

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Speaker 1: where people are wising up to the influencer industry. So

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Speaker 1: it has been around for over ten years now, and

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Speaker 1: people are understanding just how big this industry is. Last

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Speaker 1: look at TikTok, there's almost as much content about influencer marketing.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at TikTok, there's almost as much

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Speaker 1: oversaturation in the beauty industry in terms of how many

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Speaker 1: It's not just big influencers who you see on TikTok,

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Speaker 1: So there's this rise of micro influencers who are being

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Speaker 1: think that it's just a natural progression for TikTok because

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Speaker 1: use a search engine, and genuine product reviews play a

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Speaker 1: very big part in this process, and TikTok has made

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Speaker 1: I think it's also this element of trust. You really

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Speaker 1: like a lot of influencers are going to jump on

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Speaker 1: I think that gen zetters really like their creators to

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Speaker 1: a hint that someone isn't being truthful, they unfollow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, Sophie. And this trend is going to be

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Speaker 1: absolutely huge for gen zettters because they are the demographic

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Speaker 1: this trend is ultimately allowing gen zetters to reclaim their

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Speaker 1: it's going to be huge for the industry as a

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Speaker 1: whole because it's allowing people to rewrite what it means

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Speaker 1: social media and sort of offering an anecdote to this

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Speaker 1: throwaway culture that we're living in at the moment. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be a double edged sword, though, because influencers

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Speaker 1: they're going to want to seem genuine and they can't

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Speaker 1: being critical of some But on the flip side, there

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Speaker 1: are implications for those influencers who join the trend because

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Speaker 1: they will lose out and paid partnership opportunities with brands

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Speaker 1: they slag off. Also, I feel like the gotcha nature

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Speaker 1: What an absolute nightmare though for publicists who are trying

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Speaker 2: Do people have time for this?

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Speaker 1: I stalked. I did not care. I was like, confessed

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Speaker 1: Now, so you've already given away who we think Madison

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Speaker 1: Well we're looking into it.

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Speaker 1: So now I believe Madison, as you said, must have

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Speaker 1: Madison is now officially back with Jonathan after being broken

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Speaker 1: It has now. In the middle of the year, Madison

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Speaker 2: She was out with new guys. A stroke of genius

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Speaker 1: And Jonathan was playing his own games back on his

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Speaker 1: You just sit and watching TV and then you see

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Speaker 1: my ex is out helicopters. Yatastic. Now, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: Jonathan ended things with Sky Moody in September last year.

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Speaker 1: Around this time, he stopped liking her photos, and Sky

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Speaker 1: shared a photo of her and a black leotard with

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Speaker 1: the caption more than you can Handle now you can

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Speaker 1: tell things were changing with Madison too, because she stopped

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Speaker 1: talking about this dating roster. She also admitted when she

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Speaker 1: was back from Europe that she had seen Jonathan out

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Speaker 1: on a date with a new girl before she left

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Speaker 1: on her trip, and you can assume that that was

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Speaker 1: quite upsetting for her. See, they both, as you said,

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Speaker 1: were playing games, weren't they. And Jonathan I think has

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Speaker 1: won the game because I feel like he was using

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Speaker 1: Sky Moody to make Madison jealous. Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 1: You always want what you don't have a bit of

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Speaker 1: a bold move of Madison to publicly look in her

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Speaker 1: own name at Sky's Stone worries because if that was me,

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Speaker 1: I would then assume that something was going on with

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Speaker 1: the ex. That's either her and Jonathan were talking or

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Speaker 1: that she was still bothered by It would.

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Speaker 2: Play on your mind.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of an embarrassing thing to

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Speaker 1: do though, as well, because it makes you look very jealous.

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Speaker 1: It's clever though, because she kept She probably kept saying

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Speaker 1: to Jonathan, why the hell is your ex? Keep looking

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Speaker 1: at my neck? Because you'd be like, why is she

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Speaker 1: using her actual account? Like this is embarrassing? It probably

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Speaker 1: became an issue in anilation. Do we know that they

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Speaker 1: have a few finstera accounts about the place. If you

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Speaker 1: really wanted to have a look, just jump in a

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Speaker 1: fake account. Look, it's only clever if your ex wants

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Speaker 1: you back. If they don't and they are the one

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Speaker 1: that dubbed you, I think that can look really bad. Now,

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Speaker 1: have you guys ever experienced this kind of internet stalking?

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Speaker 1: Have you done it or has it happened to you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit of a weird.

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Speaker 1: One for me. So my ex boyfriend's new girlfriend, she

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Speaker 1: keeps looking at my Instagram stories. And to preface it,

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Speaker 1: this is an ex boyfriend of ten years ago. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm relevant enough to keep having

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Speaker 1: a look at my stuff. And doesn't it appear that

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Speaker 1: they've broken up too, and she's still looking at I

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Speaker 1: actually don't know. Actually I'm not sure what is going on,

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Speaker 1: but it's I don't know. It's worse because then I

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Speaker 1: go to look if she's looked just out of pure interests,

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Speaker 1: it's like a horrible cycle. I'll have to look if

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Speaker 1: she's looking at my stuff, and Kat you have to

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Speaker 1: see as well, because that'd be next level. I hope

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Speaker 1: she doesn't listen to this. Oh, well, she's looking you.

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Speaker 4: I would so listen to this if this was if

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Speaker 4: Daye was X had a podcasts, but also like ten

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Speaker 4: years ago, Like that's why I don't really want to

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Speaker 4: talk about my own stalking, because I'm very interested in

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Speaker 4: people's exes and that's.

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Speaker 1: I have the best story that I've been banned from telling.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether to tell it. Oh yeah, tell

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Speaker 1: it now, so and we're not deleting this. I'm editing,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not deleting. I have been known to have

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Speaker 1: a stalk at Brannon's ex'es page, as I think most

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Speaker 1: normal people do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do it anyway, annoying.

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Speaker 1: When they go private. And I saw that she was

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Speaker 1: see I'm like ragging on this girl for looking at

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Speaker 1: my stuff doing exactly the same thing anyway. And I

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Speaker 1: saw that she worked this marketing company and she was

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Speaker 1: looking after a client to do with Eggs anyway. Brandon

501
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: is really funny about who he accepts on his Instagram,

502
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: and it popped up this egg account and I just

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Speaker 1: had this moment where I was like, that's her, She's

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00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: trying to look at your ship.

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Speaker 2: Brandon in a fake egg name.

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Speaker 1: It was wild. I couldn't believe it. Look, I'll give

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Speaker 1: that girl some props because she didn't realize how psycho

508
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Speaker 1: you were as well for knowing where she's a thing.

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Speaker 1: I actually respect her more for coming up with the

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Speaker 1: fake name, being a bit clever than this other.

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Speaker 2: Girl that's just stalking me in her own name.

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Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't a fake name. It was a legitimate egg,

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Speaker 1: a legitimate business. Wouldn't you be pissed off a few

514
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Speaker 1: of the business and found out the marketing manager was

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Speaker 1: stalking the ex boyfriend in your company account. I had

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Speaker 1: Dale's ex when I first put up a photo after

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Speaker 1: we made it official. She liked the photo, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know her at all, like she's I only knew

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Speaker 1: the name because he briefly mentioned as Dale tagged in

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Speaker 1: the photo.

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Speaker 2: Oh I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. He's not very big on Instagram, so

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Speaker 1: I don't even show up.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: If my ex was tagged in a new announcement post,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't gone like this. Yeah, this was like five

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Speaker 1: years ago where you couldn't do like joint pictures or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. What do you guys think about your

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Speaker 1: ex is following you Because did I speak about this

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Speaker 1: on the podcast or just to you guys about how

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Speaker 1: my ex keeps following me and unfollowing me and then

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Speaker 1: liking old photos. Yeah, I just think it's so weird.

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Speaker 2: It's like fuck off.

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Speaker 1: But then I don't want to block him, as if

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Speaker 1: I care. I think you do have to unfollow your

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Speaker 1: ex because I think there's something unhealthy about continuing to

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Speaker 1: see their stuff in your feet. And also I think

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Speaker 1: that maybe you should just block if he keeps following.

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Speaker 1: See I unfollowed him years ago. Again, this is a

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Speaker 1: relationship that was a very long time ago and it

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Speaker 1: only started happening recently. I would just block because I

542
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: think that if someone blocked me, I just think, oh,

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00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: they were just annoyed by me constantly liking you. You've

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Speaker 1: probably had the fun of him of seeing him want

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Speaker 1: to follow you and like your posts and be like, oh,

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00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: well fuck you, that's kind of over. Now now I'm

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Speaker 1: just going to block. I don't want to even see

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Speaker 1: your name, and to be respectful to.

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Speaker 2: Your partner as well. Yeah, now I think you should

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Speaker 2: just block.

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00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I've told Reese about it, and we have a good

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Speaker 1: laugh about it. That's so, it's quite funny. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think that's all we've got time for today. Yes, before

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Speaker 1: we divulge any more secrets. This podcast was recorded on

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Speaker 1: the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.

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Speaker 1: We pay respect to elders past and present. Can I

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Speaker 1: say before we do go? Did? If anyone who knows

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Speaker 1: our partners listens to this podcast, can they just.

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Speaker 2: Not tell them what we say?

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Speaker 1: I have I have an incident where we were doing

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Speaker 1: a Q and out on Instagram. I said something that

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Speaker 1: Brandon didn't want me to say, blocked.

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Speaker 2: Him from the store, I blocked him from the stories.

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Speaker 1: And then one of his friends text him, oh I

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Speaker 1: heard this on the podcast page? Was anything asking people

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Speaker 1: not to like I said, don't say anything? Yeah, But

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Speaker 1: I love how you're saying. You know, you're not changing

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Speaker 1: your behavior by saying things you should. You're just telling people.

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Speaker 1: It's really great and good of the podcast, isn't it so?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a bit of a code there that

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Speaker 1: if someone says don't say anything, you don't say yeah.

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Speaker 1: So everyone listening that knows Brandon, don't say anything, alright,

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Speaker 1: An if you're from the egg account. Just stop messaging

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Speaker 1: Toby's boyfriend beyond. If you did enjoy this podcast, please

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Speaker 1: leave us a five star review and don't forget to

579
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Speaker 1: join in on all the conversations happening in our Facebook group,

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Speaker 1: which is outspoken in the podcast community, and go give

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Speaker 1: us a follow on Instagram and TikTok. Our handbook is

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Speaker 1: outspoken Underscore the Underscored podcast. Tell us if you want

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Speaker 1: any more dating stories too,