WEBVTT - The absolute best of the guests 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.960 The Driver's Show powered by a midsoon nano Taylor to 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:07.640 oil over a century of engineering excellence meets cutting edge 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:16.799 nano scale technology. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:22.320 Oh jeeze, Okay, yeah yeah. Olivia is just having a 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.200 cough and a little This is produced Olivia. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:28.200 I can't Oliver. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.840 She's a car enthusiast, produces The Driver's Show podcast and 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:37.640 tells us what to do. Pabli is not here, No, 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.639 where is he he is? 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:44.640 He's channing his little butt off, isn't he in Croatia. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:51.479 He's a little butt little, not too big, not too small. Hey, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.120 Jesus said. 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.880 I definitely definitely will be. You've been looking at his. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.560 Ass only that one time when you touched it. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.360 Yeah, I looked. In all fairness to me, he was 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.160 doing a pressed fruit bowl up against the glass of 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:11.559 the studio doors. That's what happened. Wow, that was let's 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.080 just say that fruit was out of season. There was 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:21.000 a serious, serious fruit fly issue going on that day anyway. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.399 So what we thought we'd do today is best of 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.000 the guests of twenty twenty four. So we've got Dave 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.880 McCowan from news dot com dot au, Frank Cassidy, who 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:34.399 owns an exquisite Porsche collection a complex called Boxing Gas, 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.720 which is I think he's in the middle of the 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.160 UK countryside. But he's an incredible man with an incredible 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.399 Porscha collection. You can see it all on Instagram. But 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.920 the chat is coming up soon. And also just to 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.200 take the heat off some legal dramas with Trevor Long, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:49.640 we decided to put him on. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:50.280 Yeah. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:54.280 I don't know why, but he is coming up. I 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.320 don't know what else we need to tell everyone. You're 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.960 will trying to buy or looking at buying the Zuzuki Jimney, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.640 which we were just talking about off air. Which color 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.040 do you like? Do you like the blue one or 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:04.960 the green? 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.600 I was thinking green? You blends in with the grass 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:15.200 if I need to go through the rainforest, okay, But 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.280 if anybody is selling a Jymney wants to sponsor me 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:24.280 with the Jymney sponsor, if they'll allow me a short 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.640 term loan just so I can get used to it. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.520 See if I really wanted dealers car dealership should be 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:30.919 doing that. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.480 Why didn't you get one and I get one? Do 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.160 you know what I've always wanted to do, Get a 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.840 couple of Jymneys and play that giant game of soccer 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.119 that they did on Top Gear the Arena Special Star 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.840 which with the big balls. Okay, leave Paul out of this, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:44.920 it's getting weird. 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.000 That's ways in Croatia. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:51.320 So yes, best of the guests coming up. Can we 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:52.960 just get into it? Yeah, let's go. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.160 I'm ready. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.720 How we should introduce Dave mccowan's here. Can we give 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.120 a little clap? Yay from news dot Com. You or 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.160 to be a lot more professional content director for News 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.400 Corp Australia. Welk and take Yeah, thank you. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:07.680 Yeah, that's quite the introduction. 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:12.120 I've known you for ages. Gordie has about five minutes. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.360 Yeah, that's it. They're already best is that's fine. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.960 Yeah, that's it. You've kind of moved into a new 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.840 role at News Limited. Tell us about what you're doing 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.760 now in the car scene. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.399 Yeah, I've been writing about cars for a long time 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.000 and it's a lot more than writing now. I'm a 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.480 they call it the content director, but basically just get 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.240 to get to steer the ship on how we cover 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.200 cars as a company. And that's yeah. It's a huge promotion. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:35.880 It's a lot of a lot of fun, a lot 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.720 of video, a lot of a lot of interesting stuff. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.680 And trying to find things that appeal to a really 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.960 broad audience. When you're looking at things like news dot com. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.480 You've got thirty million people a month going to the 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.680 website and most of them, yeah, and most of them 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.840 don't want to watch twenty minute long car videos and 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:51.640 things like that. So we are doing things a bit differently. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.080 Yeah, that is a good point because often our editorial 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.600 guys get lost in this world of covering car content 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.480 for and not necessarily enthusiasm, but it's very niche car content, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:07.119 whereas news is like you're talking to the guy down 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.720 the street who doesn't know anything about electric cars, and 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:15.560 most of those people hate them, which is understandable, but yeah, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.600 it is. It is a much different, i guess scope 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.160 to doing that. And you guys are going a lot 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.080 on video now as well. And I've been watching some 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:24.719 of the stuff that you've been doing a lot of 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.560 vertical format, sort of real type stuff. How do you 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.680 kind of differentiate doing stuff for News Limited on the 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.800 video front compared to what you would have done previously 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.240 at like Fairfax, for example, in a specific car role. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.440 Yeah, back in the day at Drive, you know, we 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.800 Drive was very good at video A long time ago 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.240 was really one of the pioneers for it. I mean 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:46.720 back in the day before there was b roll or 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.000 anything like that. There's no video crews attending car launchers. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.080 I used to bring a DV camera and a tripod 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.279 to like a Mercedes event at Sandown and then just 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.360 like try and move the thing around and shoot my 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.320 own stuff, and it was absolute. It was a horror show. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.679 And then, you know, like everyone, we moved with the times. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.560 And then, yeah, a couple of years ago. I've been 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:08.440 at News for five six years now, and we've really 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.800 gone down the vertical video path because TikTok has as 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.240 we all know, broken society, and everyone wants to consume 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.080 just a few seconds here and there. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.359 Of he's quite a lot more than a few seconds, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:21.400 especially with the. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.120 It's just because I'm an influencer now. Yeah, to Paul's point, though, 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:35.280 it's an interesting position to now be in. I mean, effectively, 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.640 content has changed, and in some ways it must be 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.000 a cool spot to kind of be calling the shots 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.720 because we still want to see epic bird's eye shots 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.240 and sweeping drone shots, but also it's very raw and 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.719 authentic as well, where like anyone can kind of grab 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.400 a mobile and just shoot and have a go. And 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:56.599 that's that's just as interesting, you know. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.159 Yeah, it's crazy, that isn't it. I Mean, we do 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.200 the vertical thing a lot of work, but you know, 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:02.920 I'm on TikTok and all that sort of stuff as well, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.839 And all the most successful videos I've had on TikTok 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.159 have been completely raw and personal, like I did one 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.200 this year that was I've been out for a run, 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.560 believe it or not, and there was. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.560 A sick were you running from the cops? 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.720 Well, I ran into the cops. There's this this hoirovatog guy. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.880 I had backed up a cycling lane and then parked 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.640 across it, basically blocking this running path and cycling lane, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.400 and set up there in an unmarked car sniping people 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.000 on a bridge during double demerits. And I had to 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.080 chat with him off camera and basically said, hey, you know, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:33.640 I'm not sure that this is the right thing to 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.560 be doing, and he basically took me to jog on, 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.080 so so I did, and then did he yeah? And 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.800 then I thought, nah, I'm sufficiently outraged about this, but 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.040 I think other people might be as well. And so 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.159 I filmed this little video and it went bananas millions 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.120 and millions of views, and which is really funny because 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.440 you put all this effort into producing really exquisite stuff 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.640 and doing stuff with drones and b roll and slow 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:55.960 MA and all that sort of stuff, and it gets 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:57.840 two thousand views and then you just do a quick 0:06:58.160 --> 0:06:59.680 hold your phone up in front of your face and 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.119 about the cops not looking after people. 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.600 That was crazy. I think the difference is it's kind 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.640 of one is a very authentic, sort of at the 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.640 moment story, and one is a narrative. Do you know 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:11.080 what I mean? 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.400 Yeah, yeah, Well you know the thing I remember when 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.240 when you did that. I looked at that and I mean, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.560 that is just so shit. Like I get, you know, 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.200 you're enforcing speed and whatever. That's that's a different story. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.960 But when you're parking across a cycling lane and the 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.400 worst thing, I've said this before on the podcast, it's 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.520 just such a shit image. When you've got police in 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.360 Victoria and New South Wales getting about in X fives 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.600 and five series digging people for speeding, it's like, hold on, 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:37.560 you're in one hundred and twenty thousand dollars card the 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.200 look here, and then to just park your five series 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.280 straight across the cycling lane. Because you know I'm better 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.880 than you. It's like, nah, fuck that. I find that 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.480 highly insulting and I'm glad you stood up to them. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.520 And the best part was that he would have then 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.880 just while he was sitting there to bone, someone been 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.120 flicking through news dot com today and gone, oh huh, 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:56.760 I think that was me. 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.960 Shit, that's me. I better move on myself. Yeah, that 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:06.760 was absolutely that was such a revenue raising kind of event, 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:07.960 just caught then and there. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:12.840 Yeah. Well, now, last episode I teased and teased and teased. 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.840 He did you got your feathers out? You teased me 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.360 as hard as I like. It wasn't budging. In fact, 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:25.720 at one point I coughed dust out of it. I 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.760 think my penis would sound like Louis the Fla, just 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:34.679 a little cigar. She come on, you can't tease me 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:40.000 have But yes, so you went on a secret mission. Yes, 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.440 I'm going to try and guess was this mission? Was 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:43.520 this mission? Where was it? 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.520 Mission possible? Was this one? It was? It all came 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.560 together nicely. Yeah, actually, well part of it didn't, which 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.439 we'll explain in a sec. But Dave was actually there 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:55.400 as well. It was the unveiling of the newness and patrol, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.160 and that was the car that I was sort of 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.000 talking about. They flew us over to the Middle East. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.679 Abu Dhabi was where they chose to launch the vehicle, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.240 and funnily enough, on the day of the launch, these 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.000 images leaked of it and there were these blokes standing 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.320 around in their traditional dress and I was like, oh, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.400 that's a bit weird. And then one of my friends, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.839 who's one of the journalists over in the Middle East, 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.400 he goes, well, that was actually delivered to the shake 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.560 one of the sheikh's homes because as part of the 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.679 agreement of them being allowed to launch the vehicle in 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.960 Abu Dhabi, they had to show the vehicle to this 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.839 bloke ahead of the launch, and while the car was there, 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.679 they basically snapped a couple of picks, sent the brown 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.840 to a WhatsApp group and it leaked and even up 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.679 until ten seconds before everyone in the world saw this car. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.440 They were wheeling the cars into the area where we 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:49.240 were completely camouflage. They had this thing dressed over the 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.160 car so you couldn't actually see. It was a very 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.679 funny joke, but I will definitely. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.920 There's an important people listening to this episode more reframe. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.400 Yes, so, but yeah, they wheeled this thing in and 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.199 then the second the car was there on the stage, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.240 they took it off and the unveiling was incredible. They 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.360 had like a sand dune set up in this exhibition 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.400 center where the car sort of drove out onto and look. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.199 I got to say, we've got a really close look 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.920 at the vehicle. And to me, I think this is 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.920 a quantum leap forward in terms of interior, what do 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.520 you reckon and just design in general. 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.760 Yeah, it looks it looks amazing, and you can see 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.400 that the thing is basically like a Japanese rang drove 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.240 and they've gone they've gone for the moon with this, 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.600 and and under the bonet as well, you know, they 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:32.920 ditched the old V eight and put in a twin 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:33.839 turbo six with a. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:34.840 Little bit of feel about that. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.920 Well, the other day I had back to back niss 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.720 And bookings where I drove a Nissan Patrol Warrior with 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.440 its side pipes and its big of the dog. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:44.800 It's got a good sound though. 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:46.760 It sounds incredible. 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:47.080 Yeah. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.040 And then and then I went back to back with 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.079 a Nismo Z and that sounds not incredible at all. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.080 And that's supposed to be the sports car one hundred 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.760 thousand dollars sports car that you'd like to take out 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.320 for a driving a weekend. And you know, it's better 0:10:58.320 --> 0:10:59.559 to get into the family bus if you want to 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.040 hear something that sounds good. So, yeah, the new Patrol 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.000 will sound like a tractor, but you'll feel pretty cool 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:05.480 inside it. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.240 Yeah, I mean even some of the tech like they 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.560 had this, I don't think this has been in any 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.880 other cars before. Basically biometric climate control and what they're 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.360 able to do using an infrared sensor mounted to the roof. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.360 When an occupant enters the vehicle, it's able to measure 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.920 their skin temperature and if they've been out in the 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.520 in the searing desert heat, which is exactly what it was. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.000 It basically will detect that you're you've just come in 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.600 the car, you're hotter than everyone else, and we will 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.200 increase the fans speed near you. Oh my god, but 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.200 it cools you down, which is amazing. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.040 That's so Japanese. Yeah, you know what I mean, that's 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:39.800 that's amazing. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.720 For people listening to this driving with their pets, and 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.520 you can imagine the dogs of Australia love to have 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:44.200 this implemented. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:45.400 Veterinarians officers. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.560 Actually I heard Trevor jump to one of those and 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.280 the airkind just aims straight for his nu. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:59.120 I just couldn't find them. Other cool stuff pneumatic massaging, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:00.640 and there is a key difference. And I'm going to 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.880 sound like an absolute wanker here, but if you get 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.400 into a French car and you turn the massage seats on, 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.120 it's like is someone lightly pushing my seat from behind? 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:14.559 You don't feel a thing. Numatic massages it's like someone's 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.839 driving a knife into your back. So it's got a 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.959 set of those, which is great. They released a Pro 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.080 four X version which is like an off road friendly one. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.200 That twin turbo V six will be interesting because to me, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:25.920 I have a look at everyone that buys a patrol 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.040 these days. The second they get them, they modify them. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:33.040 They'll lift big wheels, big tires, snork, they just go 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.800 to town on them. The second Nissan goes down this 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.960 path of turbo charging this car, it's got air suspension. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:44.320 Now you're just removing. There was even another thing that 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.400 was pointed out by my Middle Eastern friend over there. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.120 Basically he was saying that when they jack up patrols 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.680 in the UAE, at the moment, there's enough clearance between 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:59.280 the basically the suspension components and the body fit to 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.000 fit big, big wheels. What they've now done though, to 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.440 meet crash test requirements for the states where they have 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.480 I think it's called the near offset, where they basically 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.880 crash the car into what is a parked car, effectively 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.360 a narrow overlap. Overlap that's in it, but you're only 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.040 glancing it. These big vehicles that are on ladder frame chassis, 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.080 they're designed to have like a basically a wheel ejector. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.040 So if your wheel hits the side of this car, 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.600 instead of it folding into the cabin and intruding into 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.480 your footwell, it's got basically a metal component that's attached 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.600 to the chassis that ejects the wheel out the side 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.079 of the car, so you don't have it in the way. 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.839 So if you have a look, gee, you wouldn't want 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:38.480 to be near that. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.520 Crash, correct, But if you have a look at the chassis, 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.120 it basically prevents you from from fitting some of the 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.920 big wheels that you can currently fit to patrol. So 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.240 he pointed that out to me, and I'm like, oh, 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:48.880 I didn't even notice that. So I'm going to have 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.520 a closer look at that because it is going to 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.719 affect what you can do to this in terms of modifications. 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.240 Yeah, I remember seeing this in terms of like the 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.000 looks of it. It does look quite premium, like it's 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.520 quite a plush looking, almost European car, and I thought, 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.800 who's going to put a big sports bar on this? 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:13.360 And yeah, you would, Fat Pogan, but I just thought, like, 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.719 it's actually quite a beautiful looking car. I think then 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.120 this in patrol needed this, and my first thoughts were 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.160 people are going to just modify the shit out of this. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.080 It will be interesting about the suspension though, because isn't 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:27.120 that under some sort. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:32.080 Of subscription I they were talking about They briefly mentioned 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:36.920 some subscription stuff, but I think the translating wasn't great 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.040 because someone asked what is the mass and he said 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.560 thirty five hundred kilos. It's like, no, no, it hasn't 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.160 added a ton since you've updated it. And I watched 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.640 a few of the videos back after and a lot 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.920 of people quoted thirty five hundred kilos as the mass. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.800 I'm like, that's not true. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.600 On the subscription run it does. It's hooked up with 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.080 Google as an OS, so you can you can use 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:57.760 Google Play apps and all that sort of stuff in 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.080 the big touch green in the middle of the car, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.200 which and they've basically said, yeah, this is going to 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.200 be revenue stream forests going forward for this and for 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:05.560 other car companies as well. 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.440 What do you think about subscriptions. 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.160 I've been thinking about it a lot lately. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.440 I've got got a story coming out about it pretty 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.440 pretty soon that you'll see up on news dot com. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.160 They're they're everywhere, you know. The other day I attended 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.120 to launch of the new smart hashtag one and hashtag 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:25.080 three fucking stupid. Yeah you said it. And this thing 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.960 has has a little digital avatar. So if you're old 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.800 enough to have used Microsoft word back in the day 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.440 where they had Clippy, the little. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.640 The little clip, hard guy, can I help you off? 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.280 It looks like you're writing a letter and this this this, 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.040 you know, there will be like a little little fox 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.280 or a little cheata in the corner of the screen, 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.280 like a little animated animal that will be like, oh, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.440 it looks like you're trying to adjust the air conditioning. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.280 Can I help you with that? And this is this 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.720 is genuinely I think that's in the car now and 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.160 you can choose between a fox or a cheetah for free. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.800 Oh but if you want to design your own sort 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:00.080 of advatars. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.400 In China you can, you can unlock other avatars, but 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.400 all it's all money. You're paying to do it all, 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.520 and then you can pay for accessories for them, like 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.520 little hats and wings, and really. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.800 Myavata would just look like a meat pie and a 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.160 bean bag, like a. 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:17.960 Good Saturday afternoon. But that's the thing I get subscriptions 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.080 and those little titty bits for for kids. If you're 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.120 a kid that plays Fortnite and all that stuff, you 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.520 force your parents into buying a little upgrades and I've 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.520 never played for they spend a lot of money on 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.320 it there, But it seems to me if you're an adult, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.360 I mean, would you really pay as people? 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.000 There are people out there. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.040 Really, but there are a lot of them. I don't know. 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.960 I get the concept of it. To me. Subscriptions make 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.320 sense for stuff like what Tesla does, where you can 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:47.720 pay to get premium connectivities. You're getting satellite maps, you're 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.720 getting Spotify, all that sort of stuff. And if you 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.440 don't want it, you don't need to have it. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.920 But that's the thing with say Apple car Play, Like 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.760 Apple car Plays got all that for you and it's 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:57.240 just running off. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:58.840 That's why Tesla doesn't let you have Apple. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.200 But this will be I reckon one to watch because 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.959 I've got a feeling Apple car Play or Apple in itself. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.440 That'll be their new thing, will be trying to get 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.560 in on car companies. Perhaps I don't know. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.160 But that's that's what they're doing now, Dave. You would 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.919 have seen the demo they had of the entire Apple 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.480 car right. It's not a physical car, but it's a 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:18.840 takeover of the infotainment. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.840 And that's the idea, is the digital dashboards in cars, 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.600 your car play, instead of it just being on the 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.520 little screen in between the driver and passenger, that it 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.120 will fully take over the dashboard. And there are car 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:28.600 companies that have said that they're going to do it. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.720 Porsche's committed to it. I think it'll be probably in 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.679 this generation of kN at some point. It hasn't launched 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:35.840 with it. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.160 Yeah, I think they're close to that because we didn't 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.959 talk about this, but the week before the patrol thing, 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.199 I went to drive the ex ninety Volvo in the States, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.119 and that car has been delayed now a year, maybe longer. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.840 And it actually follows on with that discussion we had 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.720 in the last episode about Rivian, where they've gone and 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.359 designed the software stack from virtually ground up, and the 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.840 biggest issue that they have when it comes to stuff 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.040 like infotament and the screens in cars is that there's 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.840 different vendors for everything. You've got n Video running some 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.080 of the graphics systems for you for your head up 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.280 display and the driver in sort of screen. Then you've 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:19.480 got Google, Android Automotive OS running your infotamement system. That 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.120 there's a whole lot of stuff there. But you could 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:25.440 imagine if Apple took over everything you basically, in my mind, 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.760 it would be a much smoother experience. Everything would just 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:28.280 work well. 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.240 I mean, think about it. We're carrying this thing around 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.639 twenty four to seven. It's next to us when we sleep. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.800 It's kind of you want anyone who can't see this, 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:35.720 he's holding his phone. 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.560 Sorry, I'm holding my not anything else. This is just 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:43.520 for our substack listness. What that is I don't know, 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.480 but yeah, it's basically just like your phone's an extension 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.160 of yourself. So I kind of go, it's just such 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.679 an easier and cheaper thing, like you're already paying for 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.560 the apps on your phone, surely when you just want 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.840 to plug it into your car, get it all up 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.560 and there you go. I've fell divided about it because 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.440 it feels I get the reasoning behind it in terms 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.040 of user experience, but I also feel like it's just 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.400 a revenue raising kind of tool from those. 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.400 Car company one hundred percent. Like the I was talking 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.960 to BMW about it the other day, the current generation 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.639 X five. You can buy a base model car that 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.760 has sports suspension in it, well like adaptive suspension that 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.520 has comfort in sports mode. To access that, it's twenty 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.359 nine dollars a month or two hundred ninety dollars for 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.480 a year. And I think the idea with this is 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.040 that it's not so much about the first owner but 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.400 the subsequent owners, because people are looking at this exactly 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.520 like your iPhone. Right, so you buy your iPhone sixteen, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:38.719 if you're going to get the new one in a 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.199 couple of weeks, it's just going to roll over all 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.520 the subscriptions and all the apps and all the preferences 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.439 that you had on your previous generation phone, and I 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.280 think the car companies are looking at it in a 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.880 similar sort of way, where when you roll from one 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.760 car to the next, as you know, you roll over, 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.480 release or whatever, it will have all your favorite preferences. 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.280 It will know automatically what your preferred radio stations are, 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.399 what you'll prefer, and you know, climate control settings, all 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.320 that sort of stuff, and other things too, like calendars 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.119 and all that sort of stuff. It's all synked in, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.920 so it will have that as part of the services 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:12.520 in the same way that you know, if I switch 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.600 from my iPhone fifteen to sixteen, it's going to roll 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.760 over and have Ko and Spotify and all the stuff 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.679 that I'm paying for without me having to sign up 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.600 for anything new, and the phone is just a vessel 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.560 for those digital services. I think that's the way they're 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.200 looking at it from a car perspective. 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.320 Abs and stuff I can kind of get because you 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:28.919 can pick and choose what you like, and it's up 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.080 to you if you really want fucking Netflix in your 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.840 car whatever. But when it comes to stuff like whether 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.119 it be I don't know, suspension subscription, so you can 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.919 get like sports suspension or massage seats, or you know whatever, 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.560 I just that kind of thing. I mean, I get 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.679 you're kind of paying for that extra anyway, but I 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.720 feel like if it's in the car all along, you 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.320 should just fucking be able to have it. 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.720 Yeah, So this is KEYA. In the US, they've got 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.720 a mode for the EV nine. I wonder who'd buy 0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:02.320 one of those to access to access the cars, Like, 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.560 it's got a level of performances standard, but if you 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:05.959 want to go a little bit faster than you've got 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.160 to buy a Boost mode, which is nine hundred US 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:11.600 dollars again, fourteen hundred bucks to access. But it doesn't 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.159 change anything physically. It just changes the software in the 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.439 motor and the and the battery the way that it 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.080 outputs energy. I mean, Motor Trend did a really great 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:20.880 story with this where they've got a long term EV 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.600 nine and they went into the touchscreen and bought everything 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.600 that they could find and it was twenty eight hundred dollars. 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.000 It was a lot of shit. So like, if you've 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.640 got imagine imagine you know, your your kids footy training 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.600 or something like that, and that you're the paarent out 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.640 they're standing with the umbrella and one of your kids says, oh, 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:38.119 can I just go and sit in the car? Please 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:41.320 come back to like three grand where the stuff they've 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:41.560 had it. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:45.040 It's now convertible. They've pressed too many buds. 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:46.840 Some of it's really interesting, like this idea that you know, 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.320 if you've got a favorite sports team, you can customize 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.359 the car's ambient lighting and the theme of the dashboard 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.520 to like the LA Lakers. And that's a one off 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.680 forty dollars charge over there, but you could probably do 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.560 that anyway by just messing around with the ambient lighting 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.200 and all that sort of stuff deep in the menus. 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:06.560 Yeah, because you know, as a Forward Ranger owner, I've 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:08.440 been having a look at the range of forums and 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.480 they've got this tool that you can basically plug into 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.560 the OBD port and it's called four scan or something 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:15.320 like that, but you can basically. 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:18.240 Four scar. 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.520 Sure you've got to help on if you can drive 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:26.640 a Raptor, but basically it allows you to enable all 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.400 of these features that your car has but you don't have. 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.280 So for example, if you drive any ever a store 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.399 or Ranger that isn't equipped with it, you only have 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:40.240 a certain number of drive modes, whereas if you enable 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.399 these features, you can actually have something like a sport mode. 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.360 Then they have a sort of tank turn feature which 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:48.320 they've released on the Tremor, which all the cars can do. 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.520 You just tick a box and then it appears on 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:53.960 the infotainment screen. It's just again it's all software driven. 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.159 All the cars have the same hardware. It's just the 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.320 software is then enabled to allow it to happen. 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.159 So this thing is basicarly a plug in that kind 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:02.560 of hacks the system pretty much. 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:05.280 Yeah, so it's some sort of a license. Someone whiz 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.639 bang has come up with this, but I think it's 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.159 it's like you said, you could do it to any car. Really, 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:13.119 if you know that the hardware is there, it will 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.480 just do it for you. So yeah, it's that's fascinating stuff. Now, 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.640 I was gonna throw at a bit of a curveball here. 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.080 The worst car launch you've ever attended? 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.359 Oh, I haven't thought about that much at all. I mean, 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:30.520 the smart one the other day did miss in a 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.199 couple of places. There's no video to start with, so 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.199 that's that's pretty hard these days. But this is what 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:36.720 we're doing. Except that I loved it because I just 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:37.840 shoot everything on my phone. 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:38.800 And no one else can. 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.959 Yeah, basically knocked that one out really quick. And you 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:46.080 know the lunch was like lobster tail and oysters and cavia. No, 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.480 no really it's seafood. And that was at about eleven d. 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.760 I know, look it is. It is a struggle, yeah, 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:53.280 but we will prevail. 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.560 Do you find do you find that certain countries put 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:02.439 on better parties than others, Like like Chinese car companies 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:06.399 will bring out everything, whereas I don't know, a German 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.440 company might just be like, sit up and enjoy our car. 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:12.520 Yeah, it depends on how much they want to impress here. 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:13.880 I remember the first time I went on a Key 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.280 launch there was a sixteen course Degas station lunch. And 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:17.920 the first time I went on a Mercedes launch it 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:19.679 was for an AMG product that everyone It was the 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:21.600 new A forty five when that first came out like 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.280 ten years ago, and that was that was a really 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.439 hot car that everyone wanted to drive. And lunch was 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.600 at a pie Shot and the pr blow could just 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:31.240 put his credit card on the bar. I was like, yeah, 0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.320 I mean, treat yourself to a milkshake if you like 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:35.959 talking about bad press launches. I mean Paul and I 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.440 attended an absolute cracker of one in the Middle East. 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.280 He knows where I'm going with this. It was a 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:42.879 it was, it was brilliant. It was for the Maserati 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.800 Levante diesel, which I think we can all agree is 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.439 not a great car to start with. I mean they 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.640 launched that thing with the diesel from an old jeep 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:54.000 which was really bad. And the later Levante's, don't get 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:55.840 me wrong, they were incredible. They put these twin turbo 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:57.840 v eights in them, basically out of a Ferrari for 0:24:57.960 --> 0:24:59.919 a eight, and they were fast and they sounded awesome. 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.040 But the original cars were new, no, not that, and 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:07.000 they wanted to show how capable this thing was off road. 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.320 So we went into the desert with two or three 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.080 press cars and then we were supported by another vehicle, 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.000 which I assumed was going to be a patroller or a 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.399 land cruise or something like that, but it was another Maserati, 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.200 and every single one of them shot the bed spectacularly. 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:22.960 I think the best ones, Like I was following Paul 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.600 at one point and yeah, like the air suspension was 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.240 dumping out, So these things would have them raised up 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.119 as high as possible to drive in deep sand in 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.879 the desert. And then when the air suspension would pack in. 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:38.280 They would turn into like la low riders and scrape 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:38.879 their bellies on. 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:39.879 The sand like a shovel. 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.160 Yeah, and so there was that. I mean, the electric 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.399 parking brakes are basically welding themselves on. The cabins were 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.680 filling with sand and everything was clogging up. I mean, 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.160 I had I've got a video of the check engine 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:52.960 lights and warning lights on my phone. It's about three 0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:53.480 minutes long. 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:54.800 Yeah, it was. 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:57.399 It was pretty epic, and the support vehicle was pretty 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.199 funny as well, because that thing died. And then Paul like, 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.840 we don't get me wrong, we get spoilt quite a bit. 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.480 There is there is, like I'm not exaggerating about lobster 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.960 tails and caveat that happens. We were not spoilt on 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.120 this event though, where we were digging these things out 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.000 of the sand with our bare hands. 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.080 Basically. Do you know what the best part about that 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.840 story is the most reliable car there was, the Press 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:18.040 Mini Bus to get your. 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.720 Gordy. You've worked with Itamitsu before at their launch event. 0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.640 Right, Yeah, I have. I've gotta say I was really impressed. 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:31.040 These guys have been leaders in oil innovation for over 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:33.840 a century. I mean they're the ones trusted by Toyota 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:38.560 and Mazda to deliver precision enginet oils straight from the factory, 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:43.000 and now they're bringing this same expertise directly to OSSI owners. 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:44.280 Like this is exciting times. 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.800 So what stood out to you the most? 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.960 Okay, so they've got this nano tailored oil and this 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.240 stuff is next level. I mean, they don't just make 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.800 the kind of who Hi everyday products. Every formula is 0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.480 designed with a purpose. So we've got the IFG three. 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.680 This is perfect for city driving. This is where you're 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.520 in that sort of stop start traffic, the stuff that 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.320 really puts the stress on your engine. Then you've got 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:12.560 the IFG seven. Now this is a beast for high 0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:16.239 performance vehicles. Seven layers of protection on this one, and 0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:20.960 it's got their nanocleansing tech that stops oil breakdowns even 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.679 in the harshest of conditions. And if you're driving a 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:29.160 Japanese car, the IFG five is built for precision engineered engines, 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.840 offering five layers of protection to keep your engine clean 0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:34.160 and running smoothly. 0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.240 Gee, that sounds like some serious attention to detail. 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.000 That's what I'm all about. I'm all about the detailed Pavelo. 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.480 You know this about me. The IFG seven isn't just oil. 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:46.240 It's like giving your engine a custom built suit of armor. 0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:49.840 And it doesn't just protect your engine too, it optimizes performance. 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.560 So if you're into keeping your car at its absolute best, 0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:55.640 this is the oil that you want. 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:56.880 And now it's easy to get as well. 0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.240 Right, Yeah, it's really easy. It's all online. Just search 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:04.879 out it emits Australia, that's id E m it Su Australia, 0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:09.040 or you can write this one down au dot Iamitsu 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:13.760 slash Nano, slash Tailored, slashoil dot com and they will 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:18.639 ship this straight to your door, no fuss, just top 0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.160 tier oil delivered wherever you are. 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.240 If it's good enough for manufacturers like Toyota and Masda, 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.040 then it sounds good enough for me. Gordon, thank you. 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:28.240 That's exactly right, Pavlo. 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.840 Hey, with eat a MIDSU, you're getting oil that's designed 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.480 to handle whatever you throw at it. They've been trusted 0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.399 by the best part for over one hundred years for 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:37.919 a reason. 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:42.960 It Amitsu taking you beyond engine protection to real driving excitement. 0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:44.920 Couldn't have said it better myself. That was great. 0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.719 I'm always carrying this show. 0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:49.800 Have you been good? 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:51.440 Yeah? Yeah, great? 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.960 Did you get any letters like I did from the 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:59.960 lawyers of Trevor Long? Hey, we're chatting with a really 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.800 cool guy. One I've been a fan for a long 0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.480 time and I'm glad he agreed to this podcast. Frankly, 0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:10.040 his name's Frank Cassidy and he has arguably one of 0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:14.719 the world's best Porsche collections. It's almost like it's almost 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:19.240 like a gallery, like he's almost curated this collection. Then 0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.960 it's just next level. In a warehouse in the middle 0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.480 of the British countryside, he's got this thing called box 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.560 and gas, which is you're going to hear in this chat. 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.560 It's literally a nine to eleven mecha by guys. 0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:33.920 How's it going? Thanks for the invite. I appreciate it. 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.200 What a stunning beautiful day it looks like in the UK. 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.880 Yeah, you know what, it doesn't happen often here, so 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.920 when the weather is good, yeah, we take advantage. 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:44.040 Yeah, it's a. 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.680 Shame the world is burning. But otherwise it's been an 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.720 amazing summer over here. We've had up to what was 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.000 it up to I think it was thirty eight degrees. 0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:54.880 The nine degrees which for us is very hot. 0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:59.280 Also the hottest it getus down there probably like forty three. 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:03.400 Yeah, yeah, we definitely haven't got to that point quite yet. 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.600 Yeah, we have like air conditioners and stuff. I remember 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.080 I was in the UK once when it was like 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.959 a thirty three degree day and I was staying in 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.160 this hotel that was made entirely of concrete and it 0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.200 was like a Turkish spa. It was like a sauna 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:16.720 in there. It was crazy. 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:17.440 Yeah. 0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.920 Yeah, yeah, No, we don't really do our conditioning over here, 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.440 although it's becoming more prevalent. But yeah, do you guys 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.640 hear about boxing gows and what we're doing. 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:31.560 Yeah, I did. I first stumbled across you, I guess 0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:36.000 on Instagram, because Instagram has this amazing sort of way 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:41.040 of recommending people that you'd be into following, for instance, 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.920 and I guess after looking at far too many Porsche 0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:49.280 videos and photos, you eventually came up and I was like, Wow, 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:53.440 this is a guy who's got probably arguably I think 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.920 you've probably got one of the world's best collections. 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:58.800 Oh, I don't know about that. I mean, it's all 0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.200 very subjective. I'll take the compliment. 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:01.880 That's very kind of you. 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.920 Thanks for the kind of interest in I don't know 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:06.880 in my little side of Porsche. 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:08.880 Well, I think there's a few. I think there's a 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.760 few figureheads around the world. You'll one, maybe Magnus is 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:16.080 another one, and there's probably a few over in Germany 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.440 as well. But tell us about Box and Gas because 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:22.360 it's such a I guess an amazing concept because it's 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:26.800 not just you with a stunning collection of cars of 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.880 old Porsches. It's really almost like a mecca for nine 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:32.400 to eleven, right, yeah, I. 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:32.920 No, thanks. 0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:39.040 Yeah. It's essentially a one hundred acre estate that's entirely 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.880 dedicated to Porsche. We bore the estate in war was 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.440 at twenty seventeen, so about five years ago, and we'd 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.600 be building of us since then. So we've built twenty 0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.440 thousand square feet which are all least to one of 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.920 the UK's most prominent Porsche specialists, and then we've got 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.040 another thirty thousand squathy that will be finished by the 0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:58.800 end of the year, so in total we'll be at 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:02.240 fifty thousand square feet within the estate and our activities 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:07.959 are we're essentially a glorified business park. It's a very 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.680 raw business park with a lot of land around us, 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:16.200 and so we lease the space to Porsche related businesses 0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.600 and then otherwise we have an annual event called Megaphonics, 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:23.880 and then we have a range of merchandise. And yeah, 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.480 so as time goes on, when these last thirty thousand 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.440 square feet open, will suddenly be able to do things 0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.400 on a much more regular basis because there'll be infrastructure 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:35.280 for more hospitality. And when that happens, I will mean 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.960 that that we'll be able to do things on a 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:39.760 much more regular basis, so monthly cars and coffee and 0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:40.400 that kind of stuff. 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.880 That's so cool. Tell us about the Francassidy origin story. 0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.440 I guess when you curate and acquire this sort of 0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.400 a collection of cars, you know there must have been 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.720 there must have been something pretty special deep inside to 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:55.800 kind of start this off. 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.560 Yeah, there's I mean, it's not the most of interesting 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.200 of stories, but essentially what's gond I have been obsessed, 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.760 like many of us, with cars all my life and 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.640 it all started with my mum buying me on cassette 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.960 The Love Bug, the nineteen sixty seventh film, And it 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:16.680 started off with beetles, and then naturally, as you start 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:20.480 reading about beetles, eventually discovered Porsche. There was something about 0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.680 the cowl of guys that really resonated with me. So 0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.400 that was a group of California guys had a very 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.440 laid back attitude but were into drag racing, so they 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.920 kind of stripped their beetles of all all unnecessary weight. 0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.640 And I just really like that philosophy. And so that's 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.120 kind of philosophy that I tried to apply to to 0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:44.719 some of my more my more extreme cars. Yeah, and 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.720 I don't know, that's kind of I guess where it 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:47.560 kind of started. 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.360 Yeah, Well, I I've you know, Porsches are I think 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:53.840 you know, it's it's the type of car that that 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.360 really regardless of which application may try and attempt, whether 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.240 it's a nine or even in a box are a 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.120 k in, you know, regardless of what they do, they 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.320 kind of execute it. Well, I think you have a 0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:07.959 bit of an affinity with air called Porsches. Do you 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.720 do you like modern Porsches or do you think that 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.240 it's the classic stuff that really sort of tickles you fancy? 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.920 Yeah, I appreciate modern Porsches. I've owned modern Porsches before. 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.719 We've had a kN as a family, and I've had 0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:22.800 a nine to seven Turbo in the past, which is 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.080 an amazingly capable car. 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:25.719 And I have huge. 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:28.319 Amounts of respect for modern cars and what they're capable of. 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.680 It just happens to be the stuff that really, I 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.439 don't know, pause of my heartstrings. 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:35.480 Seems to be the air called stuff. 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.120 I think a lot of the star I mean, again, 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:39.600 you know, there's a lot of tchoes out there, but 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.399 a lot of the modern stuff is very it's very 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:46.080 very clinical, and it kind of drives itself. And I 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.360 respect that massive because there's a huge amount of engineering 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.719 that has to go into a car in order to 0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.840 make it do that. But the old stuff is I 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.920 just find it. I find it rewarding from from the 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.080 get go, from you know, having to track down a car, 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:05.439 track tracking down a car, getting it back, spending time 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.480 with it, figuring out what's wrong with it, getting it 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.960 back to like because they all have something wrong, figuring 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:13.719 out what's wrong with it, fixing those things, getting a 0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:15.880 nice baseline, driving it for about a year or so, 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:20.000 and then and then setting about creating something that that 0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.359 I think the car is meant to be. So there's 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.239 a very personal aspect to it, I. 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.200 Think, and with a lot of modern stuff. 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.640 It's all relatively reliable, it's all in good nick which 0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:33.719 has which has all its which has its, which has 0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.719 its place and its merit. But it's less of I 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:39.160 don't know, it's less of a journey that you go 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.319 on with it, if that makes sense. So, yeah, the 0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.120 the older stuff tends to appeal to me a little 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.840 bit more than the the newer stuff. But it doesn't 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:48.480 mean to say that I don't have huge much respect 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.040 for it, and that there are some days where, you know, 0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.160 when when several cars have gone wrong, that I just 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.200 think I just want to sell everything and buy, you know, 0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.960 something modern with a warranty, and it make my life easy. 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.440 So yeah, what do you think the cutoff is with 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:07.239 a modern Porsche to I guess a classic? Where does 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.520 the year sort of beginning? Where's the lines? 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:11.959 It's so it's so. 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:14.120 Subjective, you know, because I remember being I mean, I've 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.560 been a several car mets. I've seen online people saying, oh, 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.520 the last analog in nine eleven is a nine ninety 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:22.359 seven or a nine nine six or nine nine three, 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.200 and it people. 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:25.440 I think people. 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.160 Define an analog nine eleven based on their own experience. 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.719 Yeah, so from from my. 0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:35.200 Perspective, and I'm lucky enough to have driven pretty much 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:36.600 every single generation of Porsche there. 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:37.040 Is out there. 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:42.279 Of the air call variety, I would say it kind 0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.360 of stops at the nine sixty four. The temptation is 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.239 to say the nine nine three because it's the it's 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.360 the last of the air cool car. But actually I 0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.160 define a nine to eleven not necessarily by its engine, 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.120 although that is a key factor in the air called 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.080 engine is a key factor, but by the way that 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:01.759 it drives, and so like everything that came the nine 0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:03.880 six four is the only generation of nine eleven to 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.920 have single arm rear trailing arms, whereas the nine nine 0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.280 three came in with multi link and the one before 0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:14.319 the nine six four is a torsion bar car. So 0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.040 what I'm essentially getting at is that I think that 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.680 the nine ninety three changed the game so much without 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.120 multi link rear end, without amazing engineering that went into it, 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.439 but that for me really was a milestone and how 0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:30.160 the car went round the corner, and I personally think 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.640 there's a very clear distinction between the nine six four 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:33.359 and the nine nine three. 0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:35.839 The other curious thing is, well, Porscha has recently come 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.560 out and said that they're working on e fuels and 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:43.120 they're actually building a production facility in Tasmania here in Australia. 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.320 And I think it's really fascinating because Porscha Isn't Isn't 0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.560 kind of saying to all of their customers and their fans, 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.440 like you, Hey, you've got an old car. It's going 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.759 to be bad luck. You're not going to be able 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.399 to do anything with it in ten or fifteen years 0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.440 when the world goes to electric. Do you think that 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:03.600 the a fuel sort of idea actually has merit And 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.280 do you think that people that are in classic vehicles 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.160 and especially Porsches will take advantage of something like that 0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:09.840 in the future. 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.440 Yeah, I think for me looking at it from from 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.040 from an even a wider perspective, I think, you know, 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.759 without wanting to go too far into it, but I 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.040 think I think our biggest, our biggest problem as a 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.879 human race is our race of consumption. And I think 0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:25.880 that if we can reuse the things that we already 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.880 have or slow down our race consumption, then we're we're 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:33.040 we're we're much better. And I think that applying that 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.839 to to what you're saying about e fuels makes sense 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.400 to me. I think that keeping an older car on 0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.440 the road going for a longer period of time is 0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.680 certainly a better thing to do than to keep manufacturing, 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.640 you know, new products. So I think the manufacturing that 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.240 goes into any new car, whether we're electric or non electric, 0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:55.640 has its carbon footprint. And I think that if we 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:59.120 can keep older cars on the road or older products, 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.799 keep using our all the products supposed to to to 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.560 having new ones, I think that's a good thing. So 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.239 I think I think synthetic. 0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.800 Fuels are a very good idea. 0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:09.640 I like the idea of being able to carry on 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:10.200 using our cars. 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:10.920 I like the idea of. 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.480 Carrying on being able to use the infrastructure we already have. 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:16.880 We've got all these fuel stations already all around the world, 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.120 and if we can carry on using them as opposed 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:24.399 to having to manufacture and build more electric stations, which 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.600 again has this carbon footprint, I think that's a good thing. 0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.839 I think that the thing for me is it's it's 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:31.920 very easy to look I think it's very easy for 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.759 politicians to look at cars and just go, okay, well 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:36.040 we'll look straight, we'll look at what. 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:36.960 Comes out of the tail pipe. 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:40.000 But actually the carbon footprint overall starts from the day 0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:43.040 that it's manufactured to the day that it becomes obsolete. 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.680 And I think that that that is something that we 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.960 were as we as I don't know we're as a 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.960 world are are certainly appreciating more and more. Yeah, so 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:53.440 it's got my vote as the short answer. 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:57.320 It's funny. It's funny that you're mentioning sustainability too, because 0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:59.920 I feel like the way that you collect in a 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.000 quiet cars you kind of talk about that you are 0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:08.000 preserving these pieces almost like pieces of art for the 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.600 next custodians, which I think is really cool, which. 0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.000 Is Yeah, I appreciate that. 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.680 I think that, you know, all of us have a 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.920 finite amount of time on this planet, and what's called 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:20.360 we use what we can and we pass on what 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.200 we can to the next generation. And I think it's 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.560 the same thing with cars. I think it's a bit 0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:29.799 too yeah, so so so so Yeah, I think I 0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.000 hope that I hope that in some way, one shape 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.560 or another, that somebody else will get to enjoy the 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:38.840 car after I'm gone, and I'm. 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.040 Pleased to have enjoyed it after the previous owner. 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.920 Yeah, your collection is massive, as we've sort of covered 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.800 and as people can say. But because with your collection, 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.279 I sort of figure that every single model, every single year, 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:56.040 everything kind of has its own I guess language about it. 0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.200 If you like, there's sort of this is a really 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.640 bad example, but you can pretty much teach anyone French. 0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:05.120 But fluency is definitely one thing, and I think driving 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:08.840 like a certain older car requires a little bit of 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.399 fluency on how you drive. You've got to know the 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.040 ins and outs of it, do you know what I mean? 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:13.840 Yeah, totally. 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:18.239 I mean it's I totally get you know, some people go, Okay, 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.120 well why so much Porsche, you know, like that, there's 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:22.799 other things to the world, And I totally get there, 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:23.520 and I've been there. 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.759 I've experimented world the cars. But actually that's a very surface. 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.160 Level, and I think that when when when you look 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.360 at the cars that I'm fortunate enough to have, they 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:37.520 actually have they offer very different driving experiences. There's cars 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.640 in there which are very good at going out with 0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.640 the missus for a Sunday drive, you know, nice and 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:45.920 quiet and comfortable as cars in there that are very 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.719 good for crossing Constance because my wife and I love 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:50.200 road trips and it's nice and quiet and. 0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:52.920 Comfortable as well. There's cars in there which are incredibly. 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.879 Good at alpine tools, so they're stripped out, very very raw, 0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.560 and it is literally all about that experience being on 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:02.200 that alpine pass on to rain rough roads. And then 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:03.839 there are cars in there which are very good at 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.440 just being track cars, so still street legal, so I 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:08.080 can get to the track without having to trailer cars 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:11.120 because it's my idea of a nightmare. And there are 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.719 also race cars, so so essentially there's there's a very 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.120 eclectic mix, even though it's all one brand. 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.080 When you love to have a garage like that, Paul 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.440 literally like I'd like to go to the Alps, but 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.799 I also want one for a bit of a road 0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.400 trip to that concert on the weekend. That would be fun. 0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:29.319 No, don't get me wrong. 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.359 I I totally appreciate how fortunately this fortunate I am, 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:37.120 and and it is certainly a little bit absurd for sure, 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:41.319 But I think, I think, I think the main thing 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:44.439 is that in my view, cars cars have to cars 0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.680 have to appeal to a mass audience. They need to 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.920 they need to be good at everything in order to 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:54.759 appeal to a mass audience and and and make the 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.920 shareholders happy. But The truth is we're all unique individuals 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:01.600 with a unique different requirements, and so there's nothing I 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.680 think more personal than making your car a true, truest 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.400 representation of what driving really means to use an individual 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.560 so yeah, so so so, And it also makes an 0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.200 undiluted experience. It means it's not compromised that one thing 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.080 or another. When I go to the racetrack, I know 0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.960 that this car was built to do that task to 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.600 the utmost. And when I'm crossing the continent with the 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:25.560 Misses for a holiday, I know that that car is 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:27.719 perfect for that job and uncompromised. 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.600 Also, what do you reckon about like a singer and 0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:33.960 some of the people that are now doing av conversions 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.840 of classics? Do you reckon that that that stuff ruins 0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.560 what should be a vehicle that stays as it is? 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.239 Or do you think that you know when it comes 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.040 to whatever someone wants to do to a car, that 0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:45.920 there really is no wrong choice. 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.040 To be honest with you, my view is your car, 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:48.680 your rules. 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.680 I think that we spend a lot, we spend a 0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.000 little bit too much time criticizing other other people and 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.440 always having to express a point of view, and sometimes 0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.120 we don't have to have a point of view on anything. 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.880 But yeah, I mean, you know, I think singer, what 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.240 Singer do is is brilliant. The quality of their craftsmanship 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.880 is absolutely fantastic, roof you know, all of them. It's 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.360 it's very it's a very interesting space. But it just 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.399 it's it's a very different world. I mean when when 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.040 I started, the first nine to eleven I bought was 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:17.840 for seven thousand pounds, you know, and it was a 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.000 ninety six four. It was six four when I bought 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.239 that because I couldn't afford a nine ninety six and 0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:25.000 also because I preferred the classic cars, and it meant 0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:26.600 because it was a cheap car, it meant that we 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.560 could go on circuit, you could chuck it into a wall, 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.040 you could rebuild it with parts from the scrap heap, 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:34.719 because there were there were loads of parts of that 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.319 time especially, and it didn't owe you very much. 0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.279 Sorry, yeah, it didn't owe you very much. 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:44.080 So so the world has has suddenly changed, and it's 0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.520 just it's just funny, how you know. To me, a 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.759 ninety six four is a is a seven grand car. 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.200 It's a car that you can modify without having to 0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.080 worry about originality. It's a car that you can take 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:55.440 the track and if you crash it, it's not the 0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.840 end of the world. And all of a sudden, you 0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:59.440 know they're they're all of a sudden, it's been a 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:03.279 whild now but being turned into two singers with much 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.480 higher price tagers than seven thousand pounds, so it's it's 0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.000 it's it's interesting to see how that car is ge 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:09.960 that car. 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:11.120 Has turned around. 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.319 And the nine six four was a really interesting model. 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:14.880 It came out in the nineties of the time of 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:18.120 a recession, so they weren't very they weren't sold in 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:22.400 big numbers that they're relatively rare, and and a lot 0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:24.759 of them fell into disrepair because people weren't willing to 0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:26.840 spend the money on the car that was worth so little. 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.160 And they also suffered from dual math flywheel issues in 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:31.400 the first year, and. 0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:33.759 They had no head seating gaskets, so the then they 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.040 meat a lot of all so they got all immediately 0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:40.240 bad pressed. So again it was just more more salt 0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:44.399 to the wound, for want of a better expression, when 0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:46.360 it came to the to when it came to the 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.880 nicest four becoming the dog dog of the nine eleven 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.879 one that nobody wanted, nobody wanted, whereas a nine ninety 0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.520 three was a car that everybody loved from day one 0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:59.520 and never lost. I don't know so much value, but yeah, 0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.360 but it's just interesting to see how the nine score 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.520 is really has really turned around in that way in 0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:05.400 the nine eleven world. And it's certainly one of my 0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.440 absolute favorite models. I think it's a brilliant, brilliant car. 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.600 Isn't it crazy how car prices have gone through the 0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.840 roof and and cars that were ship boxers are now 0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:18.880 incredibly expensive. Does that change what you want to do 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.600 with the car? I mean previously, if if you know 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.040 a car that you bought was seven thousand pounds, would 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.279 you want to actually go out and drive that car? 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:27.480 Now? 0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:30.640 If it's a fifty fifty thousand pound car, now, I mean, 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.719 does that change your frame of mind depending on what 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:34.120 it's actually worth on the market. 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.640 Yeah, it does. It does for certain people for sure. 0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:42.360 I Mean there was a time which is a brilliant 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:43.080 circut in Belgium. 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.320 If you haven't heard of it, it's it's got to 0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:46.480 be one of my favorite It's got to be my 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:47.960 favorite racetrack full stop. 0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:49.120 It's just got. 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.440 Everything off Canber's gradient changes all the rest of it. 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.200 At one end of the track it can be raining, 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:58.080 the other end of it it's it's sunshine. And anyway, 0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.400 we used to do like a pilgrimage over there for England, 0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:02.399 driving straight over and we'd be we'd be a group 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.279 of I don't know, fifteen twenty nine six fours and 0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.520 by the time all the guards from Europe had joined 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.759 us as well, we'd be like thirty forty. And there 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.600 was a time when there was like thirty forty nine 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:14.160 six fours all on circuit, you know, going up a 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.880 rouge which is which is, which is an amazing straight 0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:19.800 and it'd be like watching skits was going up aslide, 0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.120 you know, all these amazing colors and I mean. 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.799 Those were those were those that was. 0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:28.200 There was a great time, that was really really great time. 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.600 It'd be two days on circuit and you just don't 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.840 see that anymore. You know, people are much more protective 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.000 of their cars because of the values, and I totally 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.400 get that, I absolutely get that, but it is it 0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:38.640 is a bit of a shame because at the end 0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.120 of the day, these cars are meant for driving, and 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:45.200 they are they they they should be used. But then again, 0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:46.759 like I've said before, you know, I don't want to 0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.480 pass opinion. You know what's called everybody has has a 0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:53.560 different take on how to enjoy a car, And yeah, 0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.920 my opinion is I just I just want to drive 0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.560 endlessly and regardless of the value of the cars ensured, 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.200 the cars ensured and if something goes wrong, well you 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:03.040 know that's what insurance is there for. 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:06.759 Yeah, do you ever go outside the realm of the 0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:09.120 nine to elevens? Like you know, I've got a soft 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:12.080 spot for say the nine two four for instance, talk 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:13.800 about a bad press that's kind of known as the 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.719 ugly Porsche, the poor man's Porsche, everything under the sun. 0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.120 I just think there's something really cool and individual about it. 0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:23.160 But yeah, do you ever sort of go outside the 0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:23.840 nine to eleven? 0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:25.239 Yeah? 0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:27.200 Do I ever go outside the nine eleven? Well, I 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:30.399 guess the only Porsche that I've owned that's no. Nine 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.640 to eleven is that kN and then a couple of 0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:35.000 three five sixes, and I've still got a beat or 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:39.040 knocking about. But no, not enough, not enough. I mean, 0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:40.359 I'd love to get a hold of a nine two 0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.919 eight or some point another I'd love to get hold 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:45.839 of like a first gen Kman and build like a 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.320 real hot rod out of that. I think that'd be 0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.440 a lot of fun. But I think you know you're 0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.000 there's there's some great Porsches out there, and I think 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.000 what's awesome about the band is about the brand is 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:59.000 that it's a very inclusive one. You know, some some 0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.160 cars like Lamborghinis or Ferraris, if you're talking other exotic cars, 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.880 the point of entry is so expensive that it is 0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:06.480 prohibitive for a lot of people. 0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.000 Whereas with Porsches you get. 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:09.719 Everything from like a three ground boxer all the way 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.640 up to a multimillion pound collector cart. And I think 0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:16.560 that's really really awesome because it equalizes. It becomes a 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.080 great equalizer, and you meet people from all different walks 0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:19.479 of life. 0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:22.760 Watch what Trevor does. He's going to put this pizza 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:24.719 on like it came up plate, chop it up with 0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:30.080 a credit card and snuffer like Nadia Bartow. He's an 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:34.840 impression of Trevor gonna subway eating a foot long sub Next. 0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:38.920 That's unbelievable. God, I come here for this? What do 0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:39.560 I come here? 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:42.040 That's I've missed you. That's why you've got a beautiful watch. 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:46.080 Why do I come here with things with things nov? 0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:47.680 I think I can talk about WHI things. Nova is 0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:49.319 what it is. It's beautiful, but it's a smart watch 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:54.360 SOG and pasture monitoring and watch. Yeah, it's funny. I 0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:56.160 was at Abudabi Airport a couple of weeks ago and 0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.120 I was looking because I always look at watches because 0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.640 I'm an idiot and have bought some. And I was like, 0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:02.719 they didn't have a tag store. I'm a tag man, 0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:04.960 but they had an Omega store that so I was 0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:06.880 just entertaining the dude, mainly think I was going to 0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:08.279 buy a watch. I was never gonna buy one, but 0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:10.440 I looked at one and it's fedink look like this, 0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:11.560 you know, metal band. 0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.920 Blue, And I thought your gun for what were you 0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:14.319 looking at? 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:15.920 It was? I don't know what it was, but I 0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:16.479 was just rarer. 0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.480 You look at that thing, Oh yeah, that would be 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.400 it would be like the for a Mega. It was 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:24.600 something like a Sea Master or something anyway, looked like that. 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:27.439 It was like seven grand euro And I get back 0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:29.080 open this thing from with ings and I'm like, shit, 0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:30.799 that looks like the watch I just looked at. I'm 0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.359 very happy with it so you don't have to get 0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:36.480 a full touch screen that's actually smart watch. 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:38.520 Because the thing I hate about the Apple Watch is 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.160 that it's an Apple watch and it's. 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.680 Not really Everyone knows you're wearing an Apple Watch. They 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.279 know you're in the Apple ecosystem, and let's be real, 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:47.279 most people don't do anything with this smart watch other 0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:50.200 than look at the time. So this is a beautiful analog. 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.400 Watch or midway through a conversation fucking lifted up and 0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:54.359 read a message in front of you, which I think 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:55.520 is the rudest fucking thing in the world. 0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.359 Very rude. It's like when you go out to buy 0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.319 a Porsche but instead you just end up with a 0:50:59.400 --> 0:50:59.960 Coopra ball. 0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.480 I would never go out and buy a push by 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:05.920 a Coopra. Yeah, I still love that car. 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.200 Quickly as well. Just on the Porsch thing, did you 0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:11.480 see they announced pricing for the Tykhan GT. 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:12.680 The most boring car ever. 0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.520 Yeah, but this is the one that's sorry, Yeah, the 0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:20.360 nevergering record time it was I think it was something 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:22.360 like ten dollars less than a GT three, so it 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:26.720 was over four hundred thousand dollars, which is clinically insane. 0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.719 Yeah, yes, but people are clinically insane. You see what 0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:31.520 cars are on the road. Yeah, I mean people are. 0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:33.560 But hang on, do you not like the ty caon? 0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:38.399 No? No, no, sorry, I had the MC in my head, 0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:39.880 like the bloody ev that. 0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:40.960 Yeah, but that's a bolk cellar. 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.560 That's terrible. I get it. I get the important of it. 0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:44.239 I mean that's a car. 0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:45.600 Then you don't think it will be as a lev 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:47.319 So I'm hoping. 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.400 My understanding is they're actually going to make a normal 0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:51.200 looking version of because I think the one that they've 0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:55.319 shown so far is like a Coupei looked, because it 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.800 just looks frumpy, right and strange, and it just climbed 0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:00.680 in price like a McCann is to start with that 0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.120 foce Inland deturbot like eighty or ninety grand. Yeah, this 0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:05.040 is starting it well over one hundred grand out because 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:05.759 it's electric only. 0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:08.320 I was going to so that's the electric parity problem. 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:09.239 Yeah, that's it. 0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:11.560 So we've discussed before. It's still I reckon, it's still 0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:15.080 at fifteen to twenty grand. The parody absolutely differential. 0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:15.360 But it was meant to be. 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.439 I remember they were all spouting by twenty twenty five 0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:18.959 that would be dead even. 0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:21.360 But if you talk to some people like I remember 0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.720 Luke Todd from BYD Who's you know. I like the bloke. 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:26.480 I like him. 0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:29.799 I love He's story about him later, Yeah, I like 0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:30.160 the guy. 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:33.359 But he would talk about I remember the Dolphin. When 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:34.920 he was talking about the Dolphin luck a year before 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:36.520 it coming, he goes, I've got one coming that's going 0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:38.600 to be it's going to be parody, you know, No, no, no, 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.880 And I'm like, it's not. It's come out at forty grand. 0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:43.520 I can get I can think of a nine thirty 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:47.360 for almost half that. We're not at parody, we're not 0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:47.840 even closed. 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:49.680 But the ev world, I think they did pretty well 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:51.080 with that. I mean they took on the yes. 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:54.399 But do you do you really think that thirty thirty 0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:58.120 eight thousand dollars is good value for such a small car. 0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.000 And your average Australian at the moment that they are 0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.160 literally struggling to pay their bills and you want to 0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.759 go get a car that is the size of a 0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.279 slight larger than a Yaris or something, and you want 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:10.319 them to pay forty grand for it if. 0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:12.840 It was thirty two to thirty five, which is not 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:16.400 a big drop it would sell unbelievable numbers. 0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:19.040 But look, the EV landscape is completely different when you're 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.040 talking prices. I think from what they've put out for 0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:22.319 the price, I think it's pretty good. 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:25.920 No, great car. I would probably get it. I might 0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:28.520 get it. I would get it over the MG four Yeah, 0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:28.960 I think. 0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:30.719 MG four you had to trick you on if you 0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:34.080 line them up. The X to me was a real letdown. 0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:35.359 Yeah. 0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:38.560 I hoped so much for that, and I was like, oh, 0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:41.000 it's just a quick in a straight line. 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.239 Doesn't go very far because it has the small battery. Yeah, 0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:45.880 quick for a brief picture. 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:48.960 It just doesn't feel the road. It was such a letdown. 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:52.120 Can I tell you about my week getting the I 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:55.960 got a Supra Oh yes, like a corporate of it. 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:57.440 Are you trying to take a piece out of my 0:53:57.520 --> 0:53:58.040 Cooper again? 0:53:58.120 --> 0:53:58.239 No? 0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:04.480 Okay, Ah, anyway, Toyota Supra. So I got a Toyota 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:08.120 Supra twenty twenty four, literally dressed off. He used to 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:09.239 have one of those, sold it. 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.279 Yeah, I fucking raved about. Oh this is amazing. Put 0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:13.360 Japanese plates on it. 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:15.120 And everything and then get rid of it. 0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:18.799 Unbelievables. I think even ambassadored for the plate people. 0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:22.279 How embarrassing were you embarrassed? Japanese plates? 0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:24.440 It doesn't ever that much money and just go through cars. 0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:25.600 I don't want this one anymore. 0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.480 Just imagine having a Japanese style plates. Did you go 0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:30.520 to like cose of play conventions when you have that? 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:32.360 So anyway, I had the Supra. 0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:36.960 Stop saying that and it's Coopra and Supra. 0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:40.279 All right, what got fucking now? 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:41.200 Now? 0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:43.759 So I had this car and it's literally just come 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.720 off the factory floor like it had done about eight cakes. Nice, 0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:50.719 And they said, like the guy at the holding yard, 0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.360 the MSR or whatever it is, you know where they 0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:54.480 keep all these cars, He's like, Matt yep, he's as 0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:58.959 rough as anything. He's actually he's like, listen, don't fuck 0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:00.759 this up. All right. He's the sort of guy that 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:02.239 would look at my four year old and go, you 0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:05.839 fucking give them me a lip? Ye, Like he's that guy. 0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.480 So anyway, he's like, don't fuck this up, Like, please, 0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:11.120 please don't fuck this one up. I haven't fucked that 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:15.239 many's but he's like, please, look, they need it for 0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:18.000 a photo shoot. It's a proper toyo to photo shoot. 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.080 It's for a World Wild campaign. Please, Like the instructions are, 0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:22.799 don't don't funk this up, no worries. Two days later, 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.960 I fucked this up. So the engines that you do. 0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.279 The engine light came on. I drove it. That's what 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.960 I did. I just drove it and the engine light 0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:32.839 came on. And by the way, I just don't think 0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:35.400 it's the smartest idea to give someone like me or 0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:37.960 anyone in this room, really a car that's done just 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.720 eight kilometers. Like you generally break these cars in properly 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:45.319 before you hand them over, especially to job. Not that 0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.399 I'm pressed or anything, but like, especially if you're gonna 0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:47.839 hand it to. 0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.120 Me, you press people. How do you identify? 0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:53.200 What's my pronoun? I sit down for a living and 0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:55.200 talk into a stick. That's it. 0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:57.440 What do you write on your immigration form? What do 0:55:57.480 --> 0:55:58.680 you write on your immigration form? 0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:01.880 Paul? It depends. Some times I do journalists, sometimes I 0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:06.000 do engineers, sometimes I do entertainer. Just kidding out of it. 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:09.200 If you go to China, do you do you leave 0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:10.640 out journalists? Absolutely? 0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:14.200 Yeah, well really no, that depends who's asking. 0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:19.640 Actually yeah, move on, No anyway, So what happened with this? 0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.080 So you stopped on the side of the road here or. 0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:25.200 No, no, no. But what happened was the warning on 0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:29.080 it on the entertainment was the drive train is fucked. 0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:32.480 This is going to lose power. So generally, if it's 0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:35.200 like yeah, so when it goes into like limp mode, 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:37.520 if you like, that's bad because it means it's trying 0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:41.920 to preserve itself. So I called them up and I'm like, 0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:44.360 this isn't good. And I was planning to take it 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:46.960 to the Blue Mountains on the weekend and rip around. 0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:49.239 I'm like, I can't do this now. I can't. Like 0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:53.320 He's like, oh, you could ignore it, but I wouldn't. Definitely. 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:53.720 Yeah. 0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:55.960 So he's like, can you bring it back and I 0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:59.040 can get you in a land cruise of three hundred nice? 0:56:59.239 --> 0:56:59.880 Am I cool? 0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:01.800 All right, that's a nice run of the mountain. 0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:06.960 It's okay. So this was the land cruiser gr and 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:10.840 I got in and I'm like, this steering wheels a 0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:14.839 bit shiny, like it just feels very kind of used. 0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:16.720 I'm like, I thought to myself, I bet the person 0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:20.080 before me was someone like Trevor Long just fucking put 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:23.280 bloody bits of donut everywhere and just like there'd be 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:24.040 crumbs on the. 0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:28.160 Sea seeds probably had a bit of like geers like 0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:31.880 it was really like, God, yeah, sure, so I don't. 0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:33.480 Know how to discalate from donuts to there. 0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:39.800 But anyway, well let's just say you put on how 0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:42.280 many donuts are you? Are you like a three donut man? 0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:43.680 How many can you? I wouldn't. 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:53.040 I wouldn't go less than six, donut king, I would. 0:57:48.920 --> 0:57:52.600 Yours the donut king. I'm happy with that title. So 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:55.479 I caught Paul and I was like, you never guess 0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:58.600 what I mean. I mean a land cruise of three 0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:03.000 hundred gr and I think it's been used. And you said, what, Gordy, 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:05.720 I was in your I am in your car, in 0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:08.520 your old car. Well you're in the same sort of car. 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:11.760 And I was like, this one has just done thirty 0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:15.840 seven thousand kilometers and yours was the same. Yea, And 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:16.560 I've got to tell. 0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:18.160 You, so you had two different ones or is this 0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:18.960 the same time with. 0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:21.320 The same one? I reckon They shold it down, but 0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:24.360 I normally, like I know that people think this is 0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:26.600 a stupid discussion to be having, but normally with press 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:27.280 cars so. 0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:29.800 Very inside baseball, but people are fascinated by many times. 0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:32.240 Look, I think most most of the time with these manufacturers, 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:34.280 they'll sell the cars at about ten thousand k's old. 0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:37.120 And the reason they do that is you've got accelerated life. 0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:39.160 When it gets given to a new media outlet, they 0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:41.360 will do the same thing last one did, and it's 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:45.000 just you're accelerating the degradation of this car. Some companies, 0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:46.680 and I think Toyt could even be one of them, 0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:50.680 just destroy the cars once they're done for pre production cars. So, 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:53.760 but the strange thing here with this three hundred series, 0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:55.520 it had clearly done a lot off writing because it 0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:58.480 had scratches all down the side, all down the other side, 0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.840 and I tell you this didn't feel great for thirty 0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:02.520 seventh thound. 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:04.880 So that accelerated life thing. Do you think it's a 0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:08.360 genuine look at a land Croags three hundred thirty eight 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:10.000 thousand k's or is it a bit more like it's 0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:11.280 one hundred thousand cos yeah, I. 0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:13.960 Think closer to one hundred thousand. And I'm hoping that 0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:17.640 anyone that's listening to this contact at the Drivers Show 0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:20.040 dot com today, you do you want a three hundred series, 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:21.880 Let us know what it's like to live with once 0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:24.560 you've put some k's on it because this thing was creaking. 0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:28.160 The suspension felt funny, there was a vibration from the engine. 0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:31.560 I think all of these things didn't happen until Gordy 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:31.960 picked it up. 0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:33.880 Yeah, I'm gonna say, to be honest, I didn't have 0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:38.000 those issues. There was no stretch. We probably shouldn't claim 0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:39.360 we had the same one. There's a good chance we 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:40.560 could have take separate. 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:42.640 Ones, but they both had over thirty thousand. 0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:43.200 Yeah. 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:43.760 You know. 0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:46.200 One thing that stuck out to me was I quickly 0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:49.640 realized the three hundred series in general, and this being 0:59:49.640 --> 0:59:52.320 the gr so it's up a fair bit. It's probably 0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:55.400 up about what fifty mil do you reckon than the standard? 0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:58.520 Like the suspension's different than the standard, and also it's 0:59:58.520 --> 0:59:59.480 got chunky at tires. 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:01.360 I think I don't think it's fifty mil. I think 1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:03.600 it's only slightly higher bran. 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:05.800 It just it just felt like it's obviously quite a 1:00:05.800 --> 1:00:09.200 big car, and it's the easiest big car I've ever driven. 1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:11.120 It's such a fucking easy drive. 1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:14.120 Really, But I do see a lot of them around town. 1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:16.960 They are the new taxi. 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:17.280 Look. 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:19.080 Yeah, I didn't mind it. It was pretty good. My 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:22.920 dad had one and probably put about seventy kilometers on 1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:25.160 it and sold it and he sold it off it. 1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:30.080 I can't really comment on it because what he did 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:32.600 was he sold it to a company called the Night 1:00:32.760 --> 1:00:35.480 h Q, which is a company I now work for. 1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:39.840 And they're like those car giveaway things. 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:40.760 You know, and don't get me started. 1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:42.919 Okay, all right, I won't get you started. Can you please? 1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:45.480 Why do you up? Because it's called money? Trevor? 1:00:45.560 --> 1:00:48.120 All right, I thought you worked in Rainy. I'm so confused. 1:00:47.720 --> 1:00:51.919 Anyway, whatever, good on men. The face, I'm the pretty 1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:52.800 fact I've replaced by. 1:00:53.240 --> 1:00:55.680 You know, when there's people standing at the desk, and 1:00:55.920 --> 1:00:59.960 then under the desk there's also people that's just Gordy's 1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:01.800 under the very spacious mouth. 1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:05.520 Wow, Jesus, look at you two. Me getting a bit 1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:08.680 of stuff on the side and your rush in eyes, 1:01:08.760 --> 1:01:11.720 your primarily aware of this. Sold it to this company 1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:15.400 and then they gave it away. Yeah yeah, they modified 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:17.960 the ship out of it and gave it away. It's 1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:18.520 pretty cool. 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:21.040 But yeah, I'm interested. If you do own one, let 1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:23.000 us know what it's like. And the interesting thing as 1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:25.520 well is that that platform will be or is the 1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:27.720 platform for the new Lexus cheeks and will be the 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:29.000 new Prato as well. 1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:31.080 You've looked at that new Prata, haven't you. Yeah, Like 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:32.960 it's it's a very different look. 1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:37.080 Great Larree hundred is a really nice evolution of the 1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:40.680 land Cruiser, right, But the new Prato is it's like 1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:43.040 where Key has gone. It's just it's radical. 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:46.320 For radicals, where you think it's where Lexus needed to go. 1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:50.080 Though it definitely now like lex has had this kind 1:01:50.080 --> 1:01:53.320 of old man brand. 1:01:52.880 --> 1:01:56.600 Toyota I think is still a bit sort of straight. Yes, 1:01:56.720 --> 1:01:57.680 I think this car. 1:01:57.640 --> 1:01:59.840 Is very because Lexus has always had a little bit 1:01:59.840 --> 1:02:01.960 of flare on the side. They've had a few sports 1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:04.160 cars and different things that have something very different. 1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:05.640 I've had some great sports yeah. 1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:08.600 Absolutely so look wise, but Toyota has been straight down 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:11.440 the line, very consistent, and then you bring in this 1:02:11.520 --> 1:02:14.920 new Prato and it's, man, it's a strange looking thing. 1:02:15.240 --> 1:02:16.200 I like it. 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:18.120 I like it a lot, but I think for the 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:21.920 average parto owner it's vastly different and therefore kind of 1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:22.920 an interesting prospect. 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:24.480 I think the biggest issue they're going to have is 1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:26.920 it's got to carry over two point eight liter four 1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:30.960 cylinder diesel, so it's getting mild, very mild hybrid technology, 1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:34.080 but five hundred new meters on a vehicle that is 1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:36.400 going to be heavier because it's on a much bigger 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:39.400 platform now, I think is probably going to hold them back. 1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:41.280 So it increase the towing capacity as well. So now 1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:43.480 they've gone from three to three and a half, you're 1:02:43.480 --> 1:02:45.920 going to be towing an extra five hundred kilos in 1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:47.840 a heavier car with the same engine. 1:02:48.080 --> 1:02:50.200 I just think that's really through it. 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:52.360 Well, yeah, so they do have that, they are working 1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:54.560 on a hybrid. The problem they've got is though, that 1:02:54.680 --> 1:02:56.720 they can't stick a V six desel in it because 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:59.320 you're going to cannibalize three hundred series. Can't stick a 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:02.680 V six petrol because you get to cannibalized GX and globally. 1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:04.600 They don't have any other engine variance aside from the 1:03:05.120 --> 1:03:07.960 hybrid bro you can actually put in there. So the 1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:09.960 screw sime one. It'll be an interesting one and it'll 1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:11.600 be more expensive. I reckon ten to fifteen. 1:03:11.680 --> 1:03:13.440 I was going to say, it just looks like it's 1:03:13.480 --> 1:03:15.600 going to be more expensive than where Prato's about, and 1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:18.960 I think most Prato, a lot of Prato owners to generalize. 1:03:19.000 --> 1:03:20.120 You know, are on a cycle. 1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:22.640 They're on like a five year, six year, but everyone 1:03:22.840 --> 1:03:25.040 purchase least one a situation and they're ready for the 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:27.520 new one percent and if it's ten grand more, yep, 1:03:27.600 --> 1:03:28.520 that's a big hit. 1:03:29.040 --> 1:03:31.160 And I know some people that have actually just gone 1:03:31.200 --> 1:03:33.920 ahead and renewed Prato now ahead of the new one 1:03:33.920 --> 1:03:35.920 coming because they don't want to change. 1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:37.400 They're right, they. 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:39.960 Don't want to have the first of something new. So 1:03:40.120 --> 1:03:41.600 they're funny those guys. 1:03:41.760 --> 1:03:44.520 My brother waited like nearly two years for his Prato. 1:03:44.600 --> 1:03:47.320 He got it last Christmas, and I said to him, 1:03:47.360 --> 1:03:50.479 hold off, like there's one coming. It looks fantastic. Hold 1:03:50.520 --> 1:03:52.480 Off is like, nah, I'm done. I'm done with waiting. 1:03:52.520 --> 1:03:54.800 I said, well, put your name the way that you 1:03:54.880 --> 1:03:57.320 got fucked around, make sure your name is on the 1:03:57.320 --> 1:03:58.720 top of the list for the new one because it 1:03:58.760 --> 1:04:01.280 looks great. And we didn't have too many details about 1:04:01.280 --> 1:04:02.920 the engine and stuff like that back then, but I 1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:05.400 was like, it looks good and I didn't think it 1:04:05.400 --> 1:04:08.000 would be. I think it feels a bit pricey for 1:04:08.480 --> 1:04:10.240 what it is, but let's see. 1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:10.640 What they do with it. 1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:12.200 You're buying into. 1:04:12.320 --> 1:04:14.080 It's a bit like buying a Tesla, right, you're getting 1:04:14.120 --> 1:04:16.080 access to the supercharger network. I think when you buy 1:04:16.120 --> 1:04:18.600 a Toyota, you know that there is a dealer everywhere. 1:04:18.640 --> 1:04:21.000 So if you're going to drive regionally, something shits itself, 1:04:21.160 --> 1:04:23.520 you just go there. And I think if you're going 1:04:23.560 --> 1:04:26.240 to do a long distance drive as well around Australia, 1:04:26.360 --> 1:04:28.160 but the map thing you want to be doing it 1:04:28.160 --> 1:04:28.800 a toy Yeah. 1:04:28.800 --> 1:04:30.920 The question without noticing Paul, where are we at with 1:04:31.080 --> 1:04:34.840 car ordered delays? Because I had this random conversation with 1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:36.320 a guy at dinner the other night where at like 1:04:36.360 --> 1:04:38.840 a group dinner, like ten or fifteen people, and he 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:42.360 was talking about he'd ordered Hyundai I twenty n ah, 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:47.400 yes in June twenty twenty two. Whoa June twenty twenty two, 1:04:47.640 --> 1:04:50.560 And he got some contact from the deal today because 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:52.320 he thought it was coming this month, got pushed out 1:04:52.320 --> 1:04:54.400 to April, and just in the course of three days 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:57.120 it's now at May or June. And I'm like, well, 1:04:57.160 --> 1:04:59.560 that doesn't mean his sense to me, I just feel 1:04:59.640 --> 1:05:02.960 like there's something weird there. Whether it's just going no, 1:05:03.120 --> 1:05:04.680 we'll move that guy down then, lest we'll give this guy. 1:05:04.680 --> 1:05:05.800 One I don't know is there a bit of that 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:06.400 goes on. 1:05:06.360 --> 1:05:08.880 Still, but I know that I twenty and they basically 1:05:09.480 --> 1:05:12.280 a lot of the end cars had very strange production issues. 1:05:12.680 --> 1:05:16.280 They had changes in production location, so I think they're 1:05:16.320 --> 1:05:19.520 their own separate little beast. Toyota still has problems. So 1:05:19.680 --> 1:05:21.640 around midyear they reckon they're going to be down to 1:05:21.680 --> 1:05:23.560 a three to six month wait on most of their 1:05:23.560 --> 1:05:26.920 cars unless it's a special order car like a LEXISLC 1:05:27.120 --> 1:05:30.040 or something like that. But most other brands, you're seeing 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:32.760 it all over TV now. They are advertising and advertising 1:05:32.760 --> 1:05:35.880 and advertising, and I think that is the first telltale sign. 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:36.880 That the car is coming. 1:05:37.320 --> 1:05:38.920 Drive over the West Gate Bridge and you look at 1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:42.680 the holding yard. It is full of cars, and I think, 1:05:42.720 --> 1:05:45.400 what's happened with these car companies. They've had this period 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:48.200 where they're just ordering as much as they can. Now 1:05:48.680 --> 1:05:52.200 the manufacturers are saying, hey, you have got thousands of 1:05:52.240 --> 1:05:54.760 cars coming figure out how to sell them. You don't 1:05:54.760 --> 1:05:56.880 have a choice in the matter. And it's going to 1:05:56.880 --> 1:06:01.240 complicate things next year with this absolute nonsense tax, bullshit tax, 1:06:01.320 --> 1:06:04.160 because that is going to really upset the balance. And 1:06:04.200 --> 1:06:06.480 Toyota has come out and said that they will not 1:06:06.920 --> 1:06:09.720 pay fines to other car companies to buy credits, they 1:06:09.720 --> 1:06:12.760 will just pay them to the government. Because Tesla's business 1:06:12.760 --> 1:06:13.439 model is great. 1:06:13.960 --> 1:06:16.080 Each year in the US, don't they. 1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:18.800 In the US, it's about two billion dollars a year 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:22.640 that they earn as credits that other manufacturers buy from them. 1:06:22.800 --> 1:06:25.680 In Australia they're set to earn two hundred million dollars 1:06:25.760 --> 1:06:28.760 over the course of the year with other manufacturers buying credits. 1:06:29.040 --> 1:06:31.280 And it was funny in Germany, the factory that they 1:06:31.360 --> 1:06:34.640 built was actually mainly funded by Stilantis, who had to 1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:37.880 buy all these credits off. Tesla has paid for Tesla 1:06:37.880 --> 1:06:39.160 to have a new factory in Germany. 1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:42.040 So if all the car companies do what Toyota do 1:06:42.040 --> 1:06:43.880 and say we're going to pay the government instead of 1:06:44.240 --> 1:06:46.200 the other brands, do the other brands get nothing? 1:06:46.640 --> 1:06:48.600 I don't think so, because it's up to you. It's 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:51.400 a perfect trading market. And the issue you've got with 1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:54.120 Tesla as well. They came out and said the other 1:06:54.160 --> 1:06:56.720 day they're leaving the FCAI, which is the sort of 1:06:56.840 --> 1:07:01.439 industry body that represents all, don't they absolutely, And they've 1:07:01.480 --> 1:07:04.400 left it because the FCAI is parroting the line that 1:07:04.400 --> 1:07:06.560 they need exemptions of certain classes of vehicles and the 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:10.240 FCAI is very much led by Toyota and so the 1:07:10.280 --> 1:07:13.200 FCAI is trying to rebut this Tesla's doing this, and 1:07:13.240 --> 1:07:15.360 the reason they're doing it is because it was actually 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:18.600 on the Today Show someone had fed a producer numbers 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:20.320 and I think it was from the FCI where they 1:07:20.360 --> 1:07:24.160 claimed Model Y would be fifteen grand cheaper. Oh wow, 1:07:24.320 --> 1:07:27.200 Tesla cractic because like, hold on, you're advertising everywhere that 1:07:27.280 --> 1:07:29.160 a Model Y is going to be fifteen grand cheaper 1:07:29.480 --> 1:07:32.000 because they've assumed that Tesla's going to drop the price 1:07:32.040 --> 1:07:34.400 by fifteen grand. It's like, no, no, they do that pocket 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:37.640 the fifteen grand because why would you? And what they're 1:07:37.680 --> 1:07:41.120 experiencing I suspect because they never come out with statements 1:07:41.200 --> 1:07:44.320 unless it's from Musk. So the Australian manager, whoever the 1:07:44.360 --> 1:07:46.160 fuck he is, has come out with a written statement 1:07:46.160 --> 1:07:48.760 that he sent to media saying they're pulling out because 1:07:48.840 --> 1:07:51.560 they must have seen a sales decline by people going 1:07:51.560 --> 1:07:52.240 well hold. 1:07:52.040 --> 1:07:54.560 On, oh, because they think the price is going to fluctuate. 1:07:54.840 --> 1:07:57.440 So Master Jan and the reason that the price is 1:07:57.440 --> 1:07:59.560 going to fluctuate for people that don't understand. This is 1:08:00.040 --> 1:08:02.640 the government is basically saying that if your average fleet 1:08:02.760 --> 1:08:05.520 is above a certain emissions level, we're going to hit 1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:07.520 you with a fee that you can either buy credits 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:09.200 from other brands or get fined for. 1:08:09.360 --> 1:08:12.600 Can I just say, this whole system, looking outside in 1:08:12.960 --> 1:08:16.840 feels so fucking flawed because if it's all about buying credit, 1:08:16.960 --> 1:08:18.920 or if you can get away with buying credits and 1:08:19.200 --> 1:08:21.280 doing this, the whole point of it is to meet 1:08:21.360 --> 1:08:23.479 admissions targets exactly. Do you know what I mean? 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:25.960 It's like environment It's like the carbon tax stuff. It's like, 1:08:26.160 --> 1:08:28.360 rather than cutting your emissions and doing good for the environment, 1:08:28.400 --> 1:08:29.240 just buy some credits. 1:08:29.280 --> 1:08:33.400 Yeah, and we'll find you and we'll get money for that. 1:08:33.720 --> 1:08:36.200 But oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing this for emissions targets. 1:08:36.240 --> 1:08:38.400 Like the longer term, the plan is to say, well, 1:08:38.400 --> 1:08:40.040 if you want to stop getting fined, you need to 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:43.080 bring in better stuff. But therein lies the problem. Someone 1:08:43.120 --> 1:08:44.640 like Toyota, who sells. 1:08:44.560 --> 1:08:46.840 By the way, I thought personally, when I looked at 1:08:46.840 --> 1:08:48.799 it first and foremost, I thought toder would be okay 1:08:48.840 --> 1:08:50.320 because of the amount of hybrids they sell. 1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:51.599 That's exactly what I thought. 1:08:52.120 --> 1:08:54.439 But it's offset by the amount of land cruise O 1:08:54.520 --> 1:08:57.679 pratos land cruises and high luxes. The problem is though 1:08:57.760 --> 1:08:59.960 that there is I don't think anyone in this world 1:09:00.240 --> 1:09:04.000 wants the world to end for climate to go bad. 1:09:04.320 --> 1:09:06.920 No one wants that. So if you're out there driving 1:09:06.960 --> 1:09:09.880 around Australia telling a caravan, you don't want the world 1:09:09.920 --> 1:09:11.840 to end. But also you don't want to be driving 1:09:11.880 --> 1:09:13.680 an electric car that's going to get one hundred k's 1:09:13.720 --> 1:09:15.639 up the road and you're going to need a charge. 1:09:16.160 --> 1:09:18.240 If you're a trade you don't have outside of that 1:09:18.280 --> 1:09:20.599 OLDV and electric uit that you can buy. So what's 1:09:20.600 --> 1:09:22.360 going at a premium. 1:09:21.920 --> 1:09:23.120 And doesn't it's an LDV. 1:09:24.600 --> 1:09:26.479 I mean, there's just all of these problems with the 1:09:26.520 --> 1:09:28.840 equation and they keep talking about how they want to 1:09:28.880 --> 1:09:31.519 compare it to the US. The US actually has an 1:09:31.520 --> 1:09:34.439 exemption for footprints, so the bigger the vehicle, the less 1:09:34.439 --> 1:09:37.439 it is required to have alignment with the missions. Have 1:09:37.479 --> 1:09:39.240 a lot of big VI, which is the top three 1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:42.000 best selling cars in the States, of the F series 1:09:42.360 --> 1:09:47.040 Ram and the Silverada. So I think that Australia needs 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:49.720 to get real understand that people buy the cars they 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:52.000 do for whatever reasons they do. Yes, you have an 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:54.400 element of people who buy them to just stuff around in. 1:09:54.479 --> 1:09:56.400 But if you are buying it because you have no alternative, 1:09:57.000 --> 1:09:58.960 Toyota is going to pass the cost onto you. And 1:09:59.040 --> 1:10:01.479 if you're a trade, extra costs they're paying for their 1:10:01.600 --> 1:10:03.040 ut is going to go to you when they come 1:10:03.080 --> 1:10:04.200 to do something in your house. 1:10:04.400 --> 1:10:06.960 And also where's the choice? Like it feels so fucking 1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:09.920 draconian to say, you can't really buy the car you 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:12.280 want if you want a big car. No, no, no, 1:10:12.880 --> 1:10:15.320 Do you know what I'm telling me what to do? Yeah? 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:18.760 I come from Victoria where for two years we were told. 1:10:18.960 --> 1:10:19.760 What to do and where to go. 1:10:20.000 --> 1:10:22.080 People are sick of it. Hey, he's paying the price 1:10:22.120 --> 1:10:24.479 now you can't get into the Portzy golf club. Cut 1:10:24.560 --> 1:10:25.080 him some slack. 1:10:25.400 --> 1:10:27.479 I caught up with Pricey the other day and I said, mate, 1:10:27.560 --> 1:10:29.640 hold up that sorry, just pick up that name. 1:10:29.680 --> 1:10:31.760 He just drunk. I did not let him in under 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:33.160 any him in. 1:10:33.479 --> 1:10:35.400 I said, don't worry, we're not letting. 1:10:37.600 --> 1:10:39.920 Hey. You know, when you make some terrible decisions in 1:10:39.960 --> 1:10:43.320 your life, I've made a few. Obviously, most of them 1:10:43.320 --> 1:10:46.640 I've asked to kindly like go through the window. For 1:10:46.760 --> 1:10:49.200 most of them, you had to text them to delete 1:10:49.200 --> 1:10:53.000 the video. G Yeah, yes, but I just don't think 1:10:54.080 --> 1:10:57.519 anything could quite stack up as badly as the mistake 1:10:57.560 --> 1:11:01.280 of buying an EV nine. And that's exactly what you're doing. 1:11:01.280 --> 1:11:04.519 A mistakes. O. Holy fuck me in the dick. 1:11:04.760 --> 1:11:05.679 I'm so excited. 1:11:05.960 --> 1:11:08.760 I actually think is that it's a fantastic looking car. 1:11:08.840 --> 1:11:11.160 But Gordy the guy that is wearing fucking glasses and 1:11:11.240 --> 1:11:12.280 can't actually see anything. 1:11:13.880 --> 1:11:15.640 Oh I know. The first thing I said when I 1:11:15.680 --> 1:11:18.280 posted about it was this is a polarizing car, no doubt, 1:11:18.600 --> 1:11:20.640 no doubt, it's polarizing, but you got it. Like my 1:11:20.720 --> 1:11:23.519 situation is this. I got three kids, the teenagers. We 1:11:23.560 --> 1:11:26.920 own a Key Carnival. It's four years old. And like 1:11:26.960 --> 1:11:28.599 I would never I didn't even think I was buying 1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:30.880 a new car this year, but I'd had the even nine. 1:11:30.920 --> 1:11:33.360 I had the air in the earth over like two 1:11:33.360 --> 1:11:36.880 different weeks in late January maybe, And so the wife 1:11:36.960 --> 1:11:38.719 saw it in the driver. She doesn't look at press cars, 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:41.240 doesn't drive them, won't go near them, but she'd seen 1:11:41.280 --> 1:11:43.200 it in the driver. And you know, friends with Blake 1:11:43.240 --> 1:11:44.600 with a Prido come around, looked at it, and you know, 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:46.760 people talk about the cars and driveway. And then I 1:11:46.800 --> 1:11:48.320 get a call from the dude that does my fine 1:11:48.320 --> 1:11:49.600 and it goes the carnival's up and I went, what 1:11:49.600 --> 1:11:51.599 do you mean? Like, what do you mean up? He goes, 1:11:51.640 --> 1:11:53.360 the lease is finished? You got to pay it out 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:53.639 or what. 1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:54.080 Are you going to do? 1:11:54.120 --> 1:11:55.519 I went, oh shit, I had no idea. 1:11:55.600 --> 1:11:57.160 Get home, I say to the wife, we've got to 1:11:57.200 --> 1:11:59.479 get a new Carnival. Okay, cool cool. I go to 1:11:59.520 --> 1:12:02.400 a key deal with in my head I want to 1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:03.839 trade it in. I want to get a new Carnival. 1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:05.960 Like I'm there to fucking buy and this is the 1:12:06.000 --> 1:12:08.719 same fucking dealership that I tried to buy the carnival 1:12:08.760 --> 1:12:12.160 from originally but wouldn't give me a quote. Irrelevant. So 1:12:12.200 --> 1:12:13.680 I walk in. I go to this bike mate, I 1:12:13.720 --> 1:12:15.719 want to buy a new Carnival twelve month wait mate, 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:18.080 I went on a carnival. 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:18.599 He goes, yep. 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:20.880 I went okay, and that was it? Like I'm like, 1:12:21.000 --> 1:12:22.960 is that it? And he goes. I said, can I 1:12:22.960 --> 1:12:24.759 get a value on mine? Like a trade in value? 1:12:24.760 --> 1:12:26.160 He goes, you know he does. He opens up a 1:12:26.160 --> 1:12:28.800 fucking website and looks through like carsa like a red 1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:30.880 book and I'm like, mate, I could do this at hard. 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:33.720 And here's a thing, there's two even nines in the 1:12:33.720 --> 1:12:36.320 show two in the show room. He doesn't even think 1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:38.519 to say, oh, you've got a family, like, doesn't even 1:12:38.520 --> 1:12:40.519 try to sell me a car. Right, So I have 1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:44.000 this conversation with Fennick on our podcast, just just ranting 1:12:44.040 --> 1:12:46.760 and raving. Bloke emails me, goes, mate, just saying, you know, 1:12:47.160 --> 1:12:49.240 I work for such and such. Happy to help you 1:12:49.240 --> 1:12:50.960 out if you do decide to go down there. No, 1:12:51.640 --> 1:12:53.920 And so I said, mate, happy to have a look 1:12:53.920 --> 1:12:55.600 at the price. Because then I got back to the 1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:57.719 wife and she goes, should we be getting a carnival 1:12:57.800 --> 1:13:01.120 or should we get that environmental thing. I was pretty 1:13:01.240 --> 1:13:04.360 pretty forward thinking on the on the environmental front. We're 1:13:04.400 --> 1:13:07.200 recycling every fucking thing in the house. We've got bins 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:10.040 for everything. And I went, that's basically green light from 1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:12.559 my wife by the EV nine right. So I work 1:13:12.640 --> 1:13:15.040 real hard on the numbers. I get it down to 1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:17.439 basically the same price because the carnivals are actually a 1:13:17.439 --> 1:13:19.720 pretty good trade right now. So I do it over 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:21.400 five years instead of four or whatever, and I get 1:13:21.479 --> 1:13:23.960 down to the same price. And mate, I've fucking I've 1:13:24.000 --> 1:13:26.040 got my deposit down on even nine and it arrives 1:13:26.040 --> 1:13:27.679 this week, Like it happened real quick. 1:13:28.000 --> 1:13:29.120 What colour did you get? 1:13:29.160 --> 1:13:32.880 Black? Okay, because we've got black black, Carnival black. Yeah, 1:13:32.880 --> 1:13:34.840 it was on a boat. There may have been a 1:13:34.840 --> 1:13:38.200 phone call, mate, but yeah it was. 1:13:38.439 --> 1:13:43.639 It was on us. Yeah, I am no, who are 1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:45.040 you travel along? 1:13:45.840 --> 1:13:49.360 I mean someone else got a phone call that said 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:52.120 your EV nine Earth is delayed by two months. But 1:13:52.840 --> 1:13:57.080 mine arrived and I'm picking up on Thursday. And so 1:13:57.439 --> 1:13:59.360 I did, like I had a bit of a panic 1:13:59.400 --> 1:14:02.000 after kind of of signing paperwork and stuff, being likeuck, 1:14:02.000 --> 1:14:03.640 have I done the right thing here? And it is 1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:06.200 polarizing to look at. But I got another press car 1:14:06.240 --> 1:14:07.640 and I told her why she has to drive it 1:14:07.800 --> 1:14:09.559 because she just went up to the park and back 1:14:09.600 --> 1:14:11.840 and she she was she never driven, like she hasn't 1:14:11.880 --> 1:14:13.680 driven the Coop ye, right, she's never driven it. So 1:14:13.720 --> 1:14:16.200 she thought it was weird and heavy, but it was fine. 1:14:16.520 --> 1:14:18.920 And then I got one a couple of weeks ago 1:14:18.960 --> 1:14:20.559 to drive for the last time to my mum's place, 1:14:20.560 --> 1:14:22.320 which is a six hour drive. Right, So I thought, 1:14:22.320 --> 1:14:24.479 I've got my got family in the country and you 1:14:24.600 --> 1:14:26.439 charge that up and you took for I had a 1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:28.720 great bin, I had a great drive. I loved it 1:14:28.760 --> 1:14:31.360 on the windy bits, on the stretches, every it was 1:14:31.479 --> 1:14:33.360 just great. So I went, I'm really happy. This is 1:14:33.400 --> 1:14:36.960 the car man. It's a great car. It really is. 1:14:37.000 --> 1:14:37.880 It's expensive. 1:14:38.240 --> 1:14:38.559 Here's it. 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:39.680 Look it's a great car. 1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:42.040 It is. It is really pulverizing right to look at 1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:44.280 your right to me, I was like, that is and 1:14:44.360 --> 1:14:46.840 I and this isn't adyss with ka. I fucking love 1:14:46.960 --> 1:14:48.960 ke I had a stinger. I love Keay is great. 1:14:49.000 --> 1:14:51.240 I love it care But it was just I looked 1:14:51.240 --> 1:14:52.960 at this and I thought, not a great looking car. 1:14:53.320 --> 1:14:57.360 But my main thing was, it's such a specific audience 1:14:57.360 --> 1:14:59.920 that would buy this one. An EV A big EV 1:15:01.280 --> 1:15:01.439 is it. 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:03.560 Seven seats, seven. 1:15:02.880 --> 1:15:06.280 Seat EV roughly one hundred and ten thousand dollars. Not 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:08.640 a cheap car. So you're rolling around in quite a 1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:13.200 luxurious beat. It's a business, it's along, it is, but 1:15:15.000 --> 1:15:18.160 support I thought to myself, there's such a specific audience 1:15:18.200 --> 1:15:19.200 with this, and you are that. 1:15:19.360 --> 1:15:22.879 No, I don't expect they're going to sell in huge numbers, 1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:24.760 but I don't think they do either. I think this 1:15:24.840 --> 1:15:27.400 is a This is a flagship vehicle for them. It's 1:15:27.400 --> 1:15:29.200 a vehicle that's like, let's be real, this is the 1:15:29.240 --> 1:15:31.800 biggest electric car you can buy in Australia. And if 1:15:31.800 --> 1:15:33.680 I was in America, I'd be buying a Rivian like 1:15:33.720 --> 1:15:35.479 I'd be buying something like that because I think it's 1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:39.639 awesome to have that. It's little for my liking. But see, 1:15:39.920 --> 1:15:42.000 in a look sense, I still think the Model Why 1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:45.519 is the fucking ugliest cart on the road today. And 1:15:45.560 --> 1:15:48.320 if I see another fucking white one, like, it's just 1:15:48.920 --> 1:15:51.479 everywhere right, and it's you know, it's worse. 1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:51.760 Now. 1:15:52.120 --> 1:15:54.920 This is the the worst thing about having a car 1:15:54.960 --> 1:15:57.600 that changes. It's going to look even worse when they 1:15:57.680 --> 1:15:59.479 bring up the update later this year because it's not 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:02.320 the new test Model three looks fucking beautiful compete to 1:16:02.360 --> 1:16:04.479 the old one. Imagine how good the Why is gonna 1:16:04.479 --> 1:16:06.800 look at all these thousands of people got the Model 1:16:06.880 --> 1:16:09.320 Y's I got to say. 1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:11.880 That, No wonder people wrap those though, you know they 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:13.320 come in such a limited amount. 1:16:13.439 --> 1:16:15.360 It is weird how many people do that, isn't it. 1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:17.680 I've got one near us. It's like a rainbow, you know, 1:16:17.720 --> 1:16:20.000 that oil slick style that looks different. 1:16:19.800 --> 1:16:24.680 In Tears Model three. Well, I was actually going to say, 1:16:24.720 --> 1:16:27.479 I like the EV nine. We were just discussing off 1:16:27.520 --> 1:16:30.559 air that I thought the GC line was just a 1:16:30.560 --> 1:16:32.160 bit much. The fucking digital mirrors. 1:16:32.200 --> 1:16:34.320 I cannot stand driving in Genesis with them now. And 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:37.000 it's like, why can't they just put the screens, yes, 1:16:37.120 --> 1:16:39.799 up where you would normally look at a mirror. 1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:42.240 Did you have you got remotely in use to those? 1:16:42.280 --> 1:16:44.040 Because I found by the end of it, I was like, 1:16:44.400 --> 1:16:46.519 I get it. They kind of like the mirrors do. 1:16:47.280 --> 1:16:50.200 Tech wise, they do some pretty incredible more and all that. 1:16:50.320 --> 1:16:52.439 I get it. I get it too, right, But I still, 1:16:52.960 --> 1:16:54.800 honestly for a mirror, it. 1:16:54.880 --> 1:16:57.400 Doesn't I don't think no, But I don't think it's 1:16:57.479 --> 1:16:58.760 anything wrong with the technology. 1:16:58.800 --> 1:17:00.599 I think it's the placement of the screens. 1:17:00.880 --> 1:17:03.480 Howt is the same when you look out the windows, 1:17:03.560 --> 1:17:06.360 like I shouldn't be able to see the fucking camera. 1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:09.080 I should exactly put the screen up there so it's 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:10.840 covering it just a little bit of the window. 1:17:10.840 --> 1:17:12.679 It's no sense, right, the fact that you can see 1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:13.120 the camera. 1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:15.000 They've done it like, oh, we don't want to block 1:17:15.000 --> 1:17:15.320 the camera. 1:17:15.360 --> 1:17:17.519 It's like put the screen up to see. 1:17:18.080 --> 1:17:21.000 I don't like audio. I don't like digital review mirrors either. 1:17:21.880 --> 1:17:24.679 You know what, they come in handy if you've got 1:17:24.760 --> 1:17:29.000 a seven seater because yeah, you can see through seven seats, 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:32.080 or a car that has a tiny fucking rear window. 1:17:32.479 --> 1:17:34.640 Those big black cars. If you get transported to the 1:17:34.680 --> 1:17:35.800 airport in you know the bit. 1:17:37.920 --> 1:17:40.280 Yeah, but you're young and healthy, your eyes are good. 1:17:40.280 --> 1:17:42.519 So actually I don't think that my because I wear 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:45.160 glasses for reading, I actually don't think I can focus 1:17:45.240 --> 1:17:48.800 properly on the digit review mirror. When when you look 1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:51.560 at the mirror weirdly, you are focusing in the distance. 1:17:51.320 --> 1:17:51.960 That's yeah. 1:17:52.040 --> 1:17:54.200 But when the mirror is here and it's a screen. 1:17:54.160 --> 1:17:56.320 You're focusing on that, I don't think it as well. 1:17:56.360 --> 1:17:59.440 But my issue with those digital side mirrors is perspective 1:17:59.520 --> 1:18:02.040 because if you're parking, like where I do, up against 1:18:02.080 --> 1:18:04.720 a wall, I use my head to move around to 1:18:04.720 --> 1:18:06.559 get different angles on the mirror. When you do that 1:18:06.640 --> 1:18:09.920 on a digital side mirror angles it doesn't move at all. 1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:11.800 Now you think, aren't they a little bit more kind 1:18:11.840 --> 1:18:12.439 of wide angle? 1:18:12.479 --> 1:18:13.320 Isn't there a bit more. 1:18:14.720 --> 1:18:17.240 You just yeah, in low light especially, you just don't 1:18:17.280 --> 1:18:19.840 know what yeah, low light is bad. Yeah, I think 1:18:19.880 --> 1:18:22.280 Evan one's great. And you do you think, I'm ben sive. 1:18:22.360 --> 1:18:25.040 Do you think, like seriously, the one you've gone for 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:27.519 is the best, because to me, the top speck was 1:18:27.560 --> 1:18:29.120 just a bit much. It doesn't have much. 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:31.000 Range from the air, just doesn't have enough range for me. 1:18:31.400 --> 1:18:34.160 Where you've landed is perfect. And the ride's better as well, Like, 1:18:34.240 --> 1:18:35.320 it is actually quite nice, and. 1:18:35.320 --> 1:18:36.559 The fact that it doesn't have while to have a 1:18:36.600 --> 1:18:38.960 car play is the most disgraceful thing in history given 1:18:39.439 --> 1:18:39.720 in the. 1:18:39.760 --> 1:18:40.519 US it does. 1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:43.240 But you know what the fuck's going from? That will 1:18:43.280 --> 1:18:46.559 be a software update. Well, we just tested the ConA Electric. 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:50.240 It actually came and it's got the same same yainment 1:18:50.360 --> 1:18:53.280 system versions and stuff. It actually came with a software 1:18:53.320 --> 1:18:55.639 update that added wireless car play while we had the car. 1:18:55.760 --> 1:18:59.040 They're starting really yeah, da are starting to roll out really. 1:19:00.040 --> 1:19:04.160 The same Yeah, entertainment system. Firmware supports it. It's just 1:19:04.200 --> 1:19:06.360 like sorry, the hardware supports of the firm where they 1:19:06.400 --> 1:19:09.639 need right. Yes, No, I think it's I think it's 1:19:09.640 --> 1:19:12.280 a good choice. A question just on the podcast as well, 1:19:12.560 --> 1:19:16.000 your new podcast, tell us first the name of it, 1:19:16.040 --> 1:19:16.680 so in anyone with. 1:19:16.760 --> 1:19:20.280 Two bogs talking electric cars, really really vague thinking. But 1:19:20.640 --> 1:19:22.640 we've been doing two bugs talking text Stephen Fennick and 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:25.320 I for thirteen years. And so when we're going to 1:19:25.360 --> 1:19:26.960 do EV's because he's got one, I've got one. 1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:27.760 We talk about him. 1:19:27.640 --> 1:19:29.240 All the time, we may as well, right, Bens Right, 1:19:29.320 --> 1:19:32.559 he's in the Equeq. He owned a model S for 1:19:32.960 --> 1:19:35.880 Yes for five years and then they stopped making them 1:19:35.960 --> 1:19:38.800 here for left right hand dright, so he just went 1:19:38.840 --> 1:19:41.439 fuck you and brought the Mercedes. I've got the Cooper 1:19:41.479 --> 1:19:43.720 and so we started that. So yeah, it's just yeah, 1:19:43.720 --> 1:19:46.800 it's just we're trying to go to the lowest common 1:19:46.800 --> 1:19:49.280 denomina in terms of it's not for it's not really 1:19:49.320 --> 1:19:51.080 for ev owner, it's for people that want to know more, 1:19:51.120 --> 1:19:53.519 want to learn more, want to understand more. You know, 1:19:53.560 --> 1:19:55.200 you can kind of jump in and hear stuff. 1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:57.400 That's a smart idea because I think that that's this 1:19:57.439 --> 1:19:59.280 is now the time to do it. People are starting 1:19:59.280 --> 1:20:01.000 to really like pricked their heads out. 1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:02.640 I don't think we're late. I think we're I think 1:20:02.680 --> 1:20:04.280 we're at the right point. I think it's a tipping 1:20:04.280 --> 1:20:06.720 point for people to go. I know, i'd like We 1:20:06.760 --> 1:20:08.839 talked last week to a bloke from the Strata Committee 1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:13.400 strata owners about EV's ownership. He had a really positive 1:20:13.400 --> 1:20:15.519 take on EV's and fire safety. I'm like, okay, so 1:20:15.560 --> 1:20:16.920 that was interesting. So now I'm going to get fire 1:20:17.000 --> 1:20:18.920 department on and go what can you tell me your 1:20:18.960 --> 1:20:20.600 side of the story, because I think it's important to 1:20:20.640 --> 1:20:24.200 hear the whole argument about stuff. Plus, I like Phenick 1:20:24.200 --> 1:20:26.519 doesn't leave the city. It was barely drives over the 1:20:26.520 --> 1:20:28.760 fucking bridge to come to my studio to do the show. 1:20:28.800 --> 1:20:31.000 But I leave the city. I've done a lot of 1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:34.000 driving and charging. I took the ford E Transit van 1:20:34.640 --> 1:20:38.120 to my mum's at Walker. It was the fucking hardest 1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:41.559 thing I've ever done because on highway it's the least 1:20:41.560 --> 1:20:44.439 efficient highway drive and EV I've ever seen it, so 1:20:44.600 --> 1:20:48.759 thirty per hundred and man fuck, I was so nervous 1:20:48.760 --> 1:20:51.640 about making it there. And I was at scone at 1:20:51.680 --> 1:20:54.160 the one n I may fifty kler what charger and 1:20:54.240 --> 1:20:55.519 I had to go to one hundred. I had to 1:20:55.520 --> 1:20:58.040 go to at least ninety two to get enough range 1:20:58.080 --> 1:21:00.519 to get to Tamworth. Poor bloke in a B turns 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.120 up well five minutes and I'm like, mate, I'm going 1:21:03.160 --> 1:21:05.080 to be here in chat for a fucking hour. 1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:05.559 Buddy good. 1:21:05.600 --> 1:21:07.360 One was half of it sticking out as well, because 1:21:07.360 --> 1:21:08.679 it's got the charging thing at the front. 1:21:09.160 --> 1:21:10.280 Now that's the other thing I didn't get. 1:21:10.360 --> 1:21:12.479 It's like it's a big workman. And then if you 1:21:12.479 --> 1:21:14.879 go to like a shopping center car park, you're blocking 1:21:14.920 --> 1:21:15.679 half the rock. 1:21:15.560 --> 1:21:17.240 Because the thing is sticking in there. 1:21:17.720 --> 1:21:21.559 But one topic, actually two topics. We rolled out electric 1:21:21.640 --> 1:21:24.080 vehicle charging in our old building. I was the OC 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:27.880 manager there and it was expensive, and funnily enough, one 1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:30.360 of the guys that was fucking jumping up and down 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:33.320 about this constantly while we were getting a consultant to 1:21:33.360 --> 1:21:36.080 work on the plans and everything didn't end up fucking 1:21:36.320 --> 1:21:38.719 getting it, even though he bought a Tesla and didn't 1:21:38.720 --> 1:21:42.120 think about charging until he got at home. We spent 1:21:42.160 --> 1:21:44.000 a year installing all this stuff, and he didn't end 1:21:44.080 --> 1:21:46.919 up putting in because he thought it was too expensive. 1:21:47.520 --> 1:21:49.200 And he goes, oh, that's too much, I can get it. 1:21:49.160 --> 1:21:51.080 Installed for this. I said, hold on, fucking listen to me. 1:21:51.560 --> 1:21:53.600 I'm not I don't need an electrician to come and 1:21:53.640 --> 1:21:56.120 plug it up for you. We have a load manager 1:21:56.200 --> 1:21:58.320 so that when it gets to summer and there's fucking 1:21:58.360 --> 1:22:01.320 fifty people trying to charge their car, that it can 1:22:01.479 --> 1:22:04.320 load shad. So we actually have electricity, yes, and we 1:22:04.360 --> 1:22:07.200 don't need you the selfish guy who wants to just plug. 1:22:07.000 --> 1:22:08.760 Up through your killer one. 1:22:08.760 --> 1:22:11.320 Imagine if there're fifty of you selfish guys, we wouldn't 1:22:11.320 --> 1:22:14.320 have any electricity. So it's it's those types of people 1:22:14.360 --> 1:22:17.360 who are tight asses that don't want to then spend 1:22:17.520 --> 1:22:19.599 because it is more expensive than doing it at home. 1:22:20.560 --> 1:22:22.320 You can't just put two grand war box on. You've 1:22:22.320 --> 1:22:25.479 got to do like you'd be that guy that we saying. 1:22:25.439 --> 1:22:28.000 Yeah, I'd be that guy. No, it's a fair point. 1:22:28.080 --> 1:22:30.920 Like if he doesn't really want to say the difference 1:22:31.040 --> 1:22:33.000 is the plug in sort of mount that you've got 1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:34.840 to get. Say he's got to spend like four grand. 1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:36.559 I don't know too much about the setup, but say 1:22:36.560 --> 1:22:38.519 he's going to spend four grand as opposed to what 1:22:39.080 --> 1:22:41.120 do you have to pay this strata people. 1:22:41.800 --> 1:22:44.800 Look, I'll find the number. But it was it was 1:22:44.840 --> 1:22:47.240 not four grand. It was like, let's call it eighteen 1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:48.960 hundred bucks. And he thought he could get it for 1:22:49.000 --> 1:22:50.479 five hundred so he's winging a. 1:22:50.439 --> 1:22:51.439 Third of Yeah. 1:22:51.640 --> 1:22:53.920 We we talked again before we came on air about 1:22:53.960 --> 1:22:58.200 the kind of community that is EV owners, especially on Facebook, 1:22:58.240 --> 1:23:00.479 and I had to leave a couple of book groups 1:23:00.479 --> 1:23:03.200 because I saw too many people sending links to like 1:23:03.280 --> 1:23:06.599 Alley Express and all this to buy fucking charges and shits. 1:23:06.760 --> 1:23:09.640 And I'm thinking that is not author that is not 1:23:10.040 --> 1:23:12.360 regulated in Australia. That's the ship that's going to bring 1:23:12.360 --> 1:23:16.839 this whole industry down is dodgy chargers. And the problem 1:23:16.920 --> 1:23:19.800 is not enough cars come with cables. Isn't it weird 1:23:19.800 --> 1:23:23.040 that you buy an EV when Hooper came with the 1:23:23.200 --> 1:23:25.840 public charging style you know, Type two to Type two 1:23:26.200 --> 1:23:28.479 not we not a home granny charger. The key I 1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:30.280 think comes with a granny charger, which I think all 1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:32.000 cars should come with, plug it in at home into 1:23:32.000 --> 1:23:35.200 a PowerPoint. But you get people who buy a you know, 1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:37.880 a charger at home. I don't want to say war 1:23:37.880 --> 1:23:39.799 Box because that's brand. That's what I've got. The awesome 1:23:40.080 --> 1:23:41.920 They buy charger, they get installed at home and it 1:23:41.960 --> 1:23:44.200 doesn't have a cable on it, so you buy then 1:23:44.240 --> 1:23:46.840 a cable. Now, the problem is if they buy a 1:23:46.920 --> 1:23:49.360 cheap shit cable that isn't rated for the for the 1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:51.960 power they're outputting. That is going to be the weak 1:23:52.000 --> 1:23:54.400 link in the chain. It's not the carvet catchers fight, 1:23:54.840 --> 1:23:57.559 it's it's barely the electricity in the home. It's the 1:23:57.720 --> 1:23:59.400 charger or the fucking cable. 1:23:59.479 --> 1:24:01.840 And by the way, you tell someone who's pretty sort 1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:04.680 of set in their ways and an EV is a 1:24:04.720 --> 1:24:06.280 big thing for them, Like I look at my old 1:24:06.280 --> 1:24:10.000 man and he was like talking about getting a Model three. 1:24:10.040 --> 1:24:12.320 At one point I was like, Eh, don't do it, 1:24:12.360 --> 1:24:14.240 don't do it, don't do it. But I guarantee he'd 1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:16.120 be this sort of person that'd be like, ah, look, 1:24:16.160 --> 1:24:18.040 I'll just fucking go on the internet without telling anyone 1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:19.080 to buy something off Amazon. 1:24:19.280 --> 1:24:21.960 You spent like sixty grand on a car, and then 1:24:22.000 --> 1:24:24.400 you go on that Like I say, I paid eighteen 1:24:24.439 --> 1:24:26.559 hundred bucks for my war box. I think you get 1:24:26.600 --> 1:24:28.320 him a bit cheaper. But my mine's got no Wi 1:24:28.360 --> 1:24:30.479 Fi and all that kind of cool control, And I 1:24:30.520 --> 1:24:32.200 know I could have got something. I think Tesla had 1:24:32.240 --> 1:24:34.200 him for like seventy fifty or something. Right, that's the 1:24:34.200 --> 1:24:37.519 minimum I spend. If you're spending lesson the Tesla charger, 1:24:38.280 --> 1:24:39.439 what the fuck is going on? 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:42.320 And is it doing it? It's like and you know 1:24:42.400 --> 1:24:46.040 the other thing as well, that a topic for you 1:24:46.040 --> 1:24:48.040 your podcast, which I'm about to come up to now, 1:24:48.520 --> 1:24:50.760 is what happens at the end of a novated least 1:24:50.760 --> 1:24:53.439 because our model, why we got that on a novated 1:24:53.520 --> 1:24:56.160 lease to take advantage of the FBT exemption. Right, my 1:24:56.240 --> 1:24:58.519 two years is coming up in August, and I've got 1:24:58.520 --> 1:25:01.519 the balloon payment of forty three and currently the cars 1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:02.479 are listed second. 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:04.679 Hand trade money for about fifty five. 1:25:05.400 --> 1:25:08.479 So at the moment, great, but what's going to happen 1:25:08.920 --> 1:25:11.439 year three when you've got everyone who went for a 1:25:11.439 --> 1:25:14.519 three year at least instead of two and the resale 1:25:14.640 --> 1:25:17.000 values of these teslas are crashing at the moment. 1:25:17.080 --> 1:25:20.840 The international stuff or because so many were. 1:25:20.680 --> 1:25:23.599 Born and a lot were used for Uber for all 1:25:23.640 --> 1:25:25.320 this sort of stuff, so they're all just ditching them. 1:25:25.240 --> 1:25:27.360 The battery, shape, degeneration and all that. 1:25:27.479 --> 1:25:29.559 And also on top of that, you've got when you 1:25:29.680 --> 1:25:32.720 take advantage of the FBT exemption, you've already saved X 1:25:32.800 --> 1:25:36.519 thousand dollars. You haven't paid GST upfront either, so you're 1:25:36.560 --> 1:25:38.439 going to dump it for whatever the balloon is and 1:25:38.479 --> 1:25:40.840 the balloon is less than market value. So you're going 1:25:40.880 --> 1:25:42.880 to see in at the two year mark, which I'm 1:25:42.880 --> 1:25:44.880 at in August, and at the three year mark the 1:25:44.880 --> 1:25:47.160 following year, which is when they first dropped Model Y, 1:25:48.040 --> 1:25:49.680 you're going to see the prices of these drops. So 1:25:49.720 --> 1:25:52.000 I'd be curious to know for anyone else that's in 1:25:52.040 --> 1:25:54.640 that situation what they're doing, whether they just trade it 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:57.320 in for another one and keep the cycle going, and 1:25:57.360 --> 1:25:59.519 if they do what happens with the secondhand one. Do 1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:02.040 they just for a cheap amount and then you bring 1:26:02.080 --> 1:26:05.360 the price of everyone who didn't get the FBT except 1:26:05.400 --> 1:26:06.439 Novade at least set up. 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:10.280 So do you when the government regulation thing to him 1:26:10.280 --> 1:26:12.920 it earlier came on about a month or two ago, 1:26:13.320 --> 1:26:14.880 Hadley rang me and want to be on here to 1:26:14.920 --> 1:26:16.720 talk to try and explain it to people, right yep, 1:26:16.960 --> 1:26:20.760 in Layman's terms. And he's pretty relaxed with me and 1:26:21.360 --> 1:26:23.280 doesn't try and push things too hard. 1:26:23.320 --> 1:26:23.720 So I was. 1:26:24.160 --> 1:26:26.519 I had him on board broadly the ev train, right, 1:26:26.880 --> 1:26:29.240 which is a big milestone, and he was like, yes, 1:26:29.240 --> 1:26:31.120 but what about the battery. So now I want to 1:26:31.160 --> 1:26:32.920 ask you this because I thought about it. I thought 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:34.640 in five years from now, you're going to go to 1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:36.880 car sales. You're going to look at cars, and right 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:39.679 now you look at a Keyer Carnival twenty twenty model 1:26:39.680 --> 1:26:42.200 and it's got one hundred thousand k's or forty thousand 1:26:42.240 --> 1:26:44.360 k's or you know, that's pretty much your measure of 1:26:44.400 --> 1:26:46.639 the difference. Do you think we'll get to a point 1:26:46.640 --> 1:26:50.160 where you list a car with battery health? Yeah, battery 1:26:50.240 --> 1:26:51.960 health like maximum range. 1:26:52.000 --> 1:26:54.839 People already you go into marketplace or something, people already 1:26:55.000 --> 1:26:58.200 take photos of, say if they're selling a Tesla, already 1:26:58.240 --> 1:27:01.400 take photos of the battery health stuff on the streets, 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:03.639 because I think that's the measure uptop as well. 1:27:03.680 --> 1:27:06.120 You know they'll do that because surely the measure of 1:27:06.240 --> 1:27:09.519 one Tesla's value, one electric cars value versus another one 1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:12.920 of the exact same age and condition is how good 1:27:13.040 --> 1:27:15.800 is the battery? So essentially what is the remaining range? 1:27:16.160 --> 1:27:18.960 Because that that's going to be the big difference between 1:27:19.000 --> 1:27:19.880 two cars, isn't it? 1:27:19.920 --> 1:27:21.400 And that's going to be an industry as well. We 1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:24.040 met this company at where was it, I think it 1:27:24.080 --> 1:27:26.360 was at the Munich Motor Show, and they were a 1:27:26.400 --> 1:27:30.280 startup Silicon Valley startup and they basically were selling this 1:27:30.360 --> 1:27:33.320 technology to car companies to be able to do remote 1:27:33.320 --> 1:27:36.920 field diagnoses of their vehicles batteries, but very in depth. 1:27:37.479 --> 1:27:39.040 I think that is going to be the next big 1:27:39.040 --> 1:27:41.559 industry where you can get an OBD portal or an 1:27:41.560 --> 1:27:43.600 Apple or something that will allow you to diagnose a 1:27:43.600 --> 1:27:46.599 battery and test sell integrity so that when you sell 1:27:46.600 --> 1:27:48.400 a car, you can have a certified. 1:27:47.960 --> 1:27:49.840 Like the old days, you get there to come along 1:27:49.840 --> 1:27:51.880 and do a check of the car, say like dial 1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:53.760 in and kind of like cheat the system like the 1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:58.720 old days when they'd like wind the. 1:27:57.760 --> 1:27:59.679 I would want that because there is a big difference 1:27:59.720 --> 1:28:02.920 between a car that is constantly DC fast charged and 1:28:02.960 --> 1:28:05.439 a car that is slow charged. Yes, and there's also 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:08.320 a difference between a sort of a typical lithium ion 1:28:08.360 --> 1:28:09.799 battery and an LFP battery. 1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:11.920 So someone who bothered to put the eighty percent limit 1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:14.320 on who didn't and all those kind of things. If 1:28:14.360 --> 1:28:17.120 I was someone who had really good financial backing on 1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:20.080 my website, I'd be launching like an ev car sales, 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:22.439 you know, with a different name obviously, because you don't 1:28:22.439 --> 1:28:27.880 want legal weathers, but no genuine beam sh raise it 1:28:27.920 --> 1:28:30.840 with our boards because I think that. I think we've 1:28:30.840 --> 1:28:33.960 got a trading post style marketplaces happen now. But that's 1:28:34.240 --> 1:28:37.000 old school, right. The new school is going to be 1:28:37.120 --> 1:28:39.880 a people just searching for an EV, especially with the 1:28:39.880 --> 1:28:41.400 flood of cars that are going to hit the marketers 1:28:41.439 --> 1:28:45.439 you've identified and make it for the buyer. So you 1:28:45.479 --> 1:28:49.479 can't list your car unless you've shown evidence of its 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:51.640 current range at eighty or one hundred percent, you know, 1:28:51.720 --> 1:28:54.280 those kind of things, so that you're really showing the 1:28:54.400 --> 1:28:57.320 value of the core technology of the car, not the 1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:59.240 fact that it's shiny and you've looked after the seats. 1:28:59.680 --> 1:29:01.639 What is the drive train of this car? 1:29:01.720 --> 1:29:05.040 Woractly? Yeah, it's it's really fascinating. And I think I 1:29:05.160 --> 1:29:07.280 just tested the Toyle to BZ four X. 1:29:07.439 --> 1:29:10.240 What the fuck is with that name? It's it is 1:29:10.280 --> 1:29:12.479 a stupid name. It's like it's been named after one 1:29:12.520 --> 1:29:15.519 of Elon Musk's kids. That's right, the. 1:29:15.479 --> 1:29:17.880 One is actually funny from you, very good. 1:29:18.040 --> 1:29:19.760 But yeah, that that car is I think a car 1:29:19.800 --> 1:29:21.280 that's misunderstood by a lot of people. 1:29:21.400 --> 1:29:22.040 A lot of people are. 1:29:22.000 --> 1:29:24.320 Complaining about how shit is it is as an EV 1:29:24.439 --> 1:29:26.320 and that sort of stuff. But to me, that is 1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:28.639 a car that if you drive a camera right now, 1:29:28.680 --> 1:29:30.439 you can go drive that and it's the same. It's 1:29:30.439 --> 1:29:33.519 got buttons for everything. Everything is foreign and weird. There's 1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:35.360 no weird ship you have to do. It just drives. 1:29:35.479 --> 1:29:38.559 That's the EV owner hatred thing. It's like Tesla owners 1:29:38.600 --> 1:29:39.720 who are like, what do you need buttons for? 1:29:39.920 --> 1:29:40.280 Mate? 1:29:40.560 --> 1:29:43.360 I love reaching, Like in the EV nine, I know 1:29:43.439 --> 1:29:45.479 that there's within my reach. There's a little toggle that 1:29:45.520 --> 1:29:47.960 I go up for warmer, down for cool, like I 1:29:48.120 --> 1:29:48.439 just want that. 1:29:49.840 --> 1:29:52.120 People same movements to your wife. 1:29:54.479 --> 1:29:56.840 Some people after Like you get in a Toyota, you 1:29:56.880 --> 1:29:59.360 want it to be to Let's be real Toyota owners, 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:03.320 our owners. They're so unlikely to buy something else we've 1:30:03.320 --> 1:30:05.240 talked I think I've talked about with you guys before. 1:30:05.360 --> 1:30:08.040 They are so unlikely to buy from a Corolla to 1:30:08.040 --> 1:30:10.080 an I thirty, despite the fact that they're better cars. 1:30:10.120 --> 1:30:12.200 Probably it's a toil. 1:30:12.320 --> 1:30:14.400 If they want to be an EV that's probably the 1:30:14.439 --> 1:30:14.880 car to gain. 1:30:14.960 --> 1:30:15.599 Yeah, I reckon. 1:30:15.600 --> 1:30:17.519 They will actually sold quite a few of them, so 1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:18.559 I'll be carefus see how it goes. 1:30:18.560 --> 1:30:18.920 I'll tell you what. 1:30:19.000 --> 1:30:21.040 The fucking air conditioner was amazing. We had three hot 1:30:21.120 --> 1:30:23.920 days in Melbourne, and every ev I get into, the 1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:28.200 air conditioner leaves you sweating, not sweating, but just not 1:30:28.720 --> 1:30:32.200 super comfortable, right, especially a Tesla with a fucking glass roof, like. 1:30:32.160 --> 1:30:34.840 Itating, I saw you bring something like that up before 1:30:34.880 --> 1:30:37.439 I finally someone gets it, those glass roos thing. 1:30:37.720 --> 1:30:40.479 I was freezing and it was like forty degrees outside. 1:30:40.560 --> 1:30:42.559 The air conditioning is like straight out of a highlux 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:43.360 It is fantastic. 1:30:43.439 --> 1:30:44.120 What's your number? 1:30:45.200 --> 1:30:47.360 Well, in a normal car, it's twenty two. In this 1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:49.519 it was twenty three because it was at twenty two. 1:30:49.600 --> 1:30:50.800 I was actually getting. 1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:53.519 Like twenty three. Man, he got a bit of a showed. 1:30:54.240 --> 1:30:58.840 People walk into my studio and it's literally a fridge, 1:30:58.920 --> 1:31:02.519 like I keep that at yeah, unlike this is like 1:31:02.560 --> 1:31:03.920 a bloody Croatian sauna. 1:31:04.640 --> 1:31:06.400 That's because they turned their conditioning off in this building. 1:31:06.439 --> 1:31:08.600 When do you know what? I noticed that there is 1:31:08.600 --> 1:31:11.439 actually an air cord something. I was just really not 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:14.679 fun doing recycling from the fan of the hard drive. 1:31:14.760 --> 1:31:17.759 But yeah, my studio, I keep it like nineteen degrees. 1:31:17.800 --> 1:31:19.799 Like you walk in there, it is a proper fridge. 1:31:19.800 --> 1:31:22.519 Everyone's like, how can you be in here for six hours? 1:31:23.160 --> 1:31:25.280 This is this is how it's got to. 1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:27.200 Be your way of deterring people from coming in as. 1:31:27.520 --> 1:31:33.880 Me fresh like a piece of old food speaking which hanging. 1:31:33.600 --> 1:31:35.880 In the window like a Christmas. 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:37.880 Fat on this slice of pizza? Would you travel? I 1:31:37.880 --> 1:31:38.599 need it warmed up. 1:31:39.439 --> 1:31:42.400 It won't be warm'll be sloppy. 1:31:42.040 --> 1:31:44.400 That's for sure. Does anyone listen to this? This is 1:31:44.400 --> 1:31:45.160 a cheesy crust. 1:31:47.120 --> 1:31:47.759 Had a sponsor. 1:31:47.800 --> 1:31:51.400 By the way, how's your manscape going? Have you used? 1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:52.200 So? 1:31:52.600 --> 1:31:55.000 We had a Kadogan on the show again and. 1:31:55.200 --> 1:31:57.360 Did you hammer him for the manscape stuff? 1:31:59.280 --> 1:32:02.120 We gifted him the merch last time and he returned 1:32:02.160 --> 1:32:05.080 the favor and gifted us some manscaping products. So my 1:32:05.240 --> 1:32:09.120 bask at work, I have balled the odorantup, palls on 1:32:09.160 --> 1:32:12.280 the ball the odorant? 1:32:12.280 --> 1:32:15.240 Is that a real thing? That man has worked out 1:32:15.240 --> 1:32:17.520 how to nail a YouTube clickbait? 1:32:17.720 --> 1:32:20.879 But it's it's he actually said, he knows his audience. 1:32:21.080 --> 1:32:24.839 That's why he has bet roll of women frolicking around. 1:32:25.720 --> 1:32:29.000 He knows just hit the hit the hit the ev stuff. 1:32:29.640 --> 1:32:31.840 He knows they hate it, so bring it on. 1:32:32.120 --> 1:32:34.479 He is really just what are you doing? 1:32:34.520 --> 1:32:35.920 I don't want to pull them out? 1:32:35.960 --> 1:32:37.440 What are you doing? Gordie? 1:32:38.160 --> 1:32:40.640 That's disgusting. Now he's getting his camera, he's going to 1:32:40.680 --> 1:32:46.280 take photos of it. Can you this bloke, this fokes 1:32:46.320 --> 1:32:51.720 is in professional radio, mate, But how will he edit 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:54.479 this out? Or is this staying in the show. I 1:32:54.479 --> 1:32:57.120 don't think he will. I'm going to tell you right now, Paul, 1:32:57.560 --> 1:32:59.639 I don't think he's going to edit this out. All right, 1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:03.840 ladies and gentlemen, can you it's just secretly DM, because Pauly, 1:33:04.120 --> 1:33:05.639 sorry Gord, he probably won't even listen to the show 1:33:05.960 --> 1:33:08.599 top and tail it and it out so secretly DM, 1:33:08.680 --> 1:33:11.720 Paul Marrick travelong and let us know that he let 1:33:11.760 --> 1:33:13.000 this left this rubbish in. 1:33:13.120 --> 1:33:13.679 That's it. 1:33:13.680 --> 1:33:16.320 It also helps us understand you're listening, because otherwise I'm 1:33:16.320 --> 1:33:17.839 not even sure these bokes have listeners. 1:33:18.479 --> 1:33:18.880 I don't know. 1:33:19.040 --> 1:33:20.000 I don't know why you do it. 1:33:20.080 --> 1:33:21.000 I don't think we do it. 1:33:22.520 --> 1:33:25.160 Honest he mentioned do you have a sponsor or? 1:33:25.160 --> 1:33:25.280 What? 1:33:25.640 --> 1:33:25.800 No? 1:33:25.960 --> 1:33:26.200 God? 1:33:26.240 --> 1:33:26.320 No? 1:33:26.600 --> 1:33:28.200 Okay, well you got to work on your money on this. 1:33:28.880 --> 1:33:32.160 Ah see that's the problem. And that's what that's where 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:34.599 Fennick and I had a problem. We started the private feed, 1:33:34.600 --> 1:33:36.680 which just us talking shit and swearing and everything, and 1:33:36.720 --> 1:33:38.400 I would never try and attach a sponsor. That because 1:33:38.400 --> 1:33:40.240 I don't want someone saying you can do something right. 1:33:40.560 --> 1:33:42.400 But I would never launch a podcast without a. 1:33:42.360 --> 1:33:46.400 Sponsor such a thing. It's you do it for the 1:33:46.479 --> 1:33:47.800 love pretty much. 1:33:48.120 --> 1:33:49.519 I mean, if this, if we had to hire the 1:33:49.560 --> 1:33:52.800 studio and everything makes sense, but you know, it is 1:33:52.840 --> 1:33:54.599 what it is. So where do you have a studio 1:33:54.840 --> 1:33:55.840 set up at work? 1:33:55.960 --> 1:33:56.160 Yeah? 1:33:56.200 --> 1:33:58.920 So in the e FGM office upstairs of now pretty 1:33:58.960 --> 1:34:01.320 much's got much with three zone. It's a desks desk 1:34:01.360 --> 1:34:03.679 for me to work at, and I record the FtM 1:34:03.680 --> 1:34:06.000 podcast just at my desk, and then the lounge room 1:34:06.120 --> 1:34:09.400 which is the Today show backdrop, and then the corner 1:34:09.439 --> 1:34:13.519 is like this, it's an acoustic area and with three 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:17.519 cameras for a video podcasting, yeah, because may we do it? 1:34:17.640 --> 1:34:19.720 Thirteen years we never did video because I didn't want 1:34:19.720 --> 1:34:23.160 to fucking edit it. But then AI editing came along 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:25.960 and I could just drop three tracks in actually boom, 1:34:26.000 --> 1:34:29.040 yeah mate, So I dropped three tracks my camera, Steven's 1:34:29.080 --> 1:34:32.040 camera too shot and then the audio sync it up 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:34.280 and then just go top and tail and then click 1:34:34.320 --> 1:34:36.800 a button and on a good Mac one and a 1:34:36.840 --> 1:34:40.320 half minutes later, a one hour show. He's edited multiicam. 1:34:40.439 --> 1:34:42.120 So when I'm talking, it's on me, when he's talking, 1:34:42.160 --> 1:34:43.040 it's on him. 1:34:43.160 --> 1:34:43.759 It's brilliant. 1:34:44.479 --> 1:34:47.400 So yeah, like I would never plug in or just 1:34:47.439 --> 1:34:51.280 plug in for premiere. Thanks for joining us. Don't want 1:34:51.280 --> 1:34:51.840 to shave them? 1:34:52.040 --> 1:34:55.280 Why get them out? This is by the way, this 1:34:55.360 --> 1:34:57.200 is yours. I neve already got one, but you get 1:34:57.240 --> 1:34:57.720 another one. 1:34:58.080 --> 1:35:00.960 I can I just tell you really, I want to 1:35:00.960 --> 1:35:05.799 cry right now. I broke Look, I broke mine. Oh 1:35:05.800 --> 1:35:06.759 so I didn't want. 1:35:06.600 --> 1:35:07.639 To out of rage. 1:35:08.760 --> 1:35:09.320 Actually was. 1:35:10.240 --> 1:35:10.760 It was just the. 1:35:10.680 --> 1:35:12.559 Closest thing on my desk and I threw it. You're 1:35:12.600 --> 1:35:14.160 not going to I'm absolutely not gonna. 1:35:13.960 --> 1:35:15.559 Lost because your wife said no to the. 1:35:18.120 --> 1:35:19.400 You don't want to know how close to the true 1:35:19.439 --> 1:35:22.400 that story is. But it's funny because it's still sitting 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:25.000 on my desk. But I've put it together again because 1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:26.400 my daughter's like, why have you got a broken cup? 1:35:26.400 --> 1:35:29.280 I'm like, because I feel really bad that I broke. 1:35:30.200 --> 1:35:34.360 This is the nicest bumper stickers. You know where I'm 1:35:34.360 --> 1:35:36.240 going to put that? Not on my bumper. 1:35:36.560 --> 1:35:38.080 You're not going to put it on the on the board. 1:35:38.640 --> 1:35:41.640 No, really no, that's not going to have them there. 1:35:41.680 --> 1:35:45.040 If you want No, probably not. Actually no, sorry, I 1:35:45.080 --> 1:35:46.880 just realized, Oh no, I could cut it this, it's 1:35:46.920 --> 1:35:47.280 just Paul. 1:35:47.640 --> 1:35:48.080 Do you know what? 1:35:48.640 --> 1:35:49.920 Do you know what? I actually Paul? 1:35:49.960 --> 1:35:51.479 It actually works if he ever needed to, it just 1:35:51.479 --> 1:35:54.280 works fine, Paul. Probably we could probably photoo the Gordy. 1:35:54.479 --> 1:35:56.479 Do you know what? Paul sent me a challenge right 1:35:56.520 --> 1:36:00.160 before you got in here was to stick one of 1:36:00.200 --> 1:36:03.400 those on your coopra born And I've just got out 1:36:03.439 --> 1:36:06.240 to do that, and now I realized a prend genesis 1:36:06.320 --> 1:36:13.439 GV sixty, So I stuck on it. Anyway. The people, yeah, 1:36:13.680 --> 1:36:18.360 they love me, they do. They genuinely listen to this podcast. 1:36:18.720 --> 1:36:23.559 Bill he Nikey. Sorry about the sticker and Pete in 1:36:23.600 --> 1:36:25.519 the garage. I'll pull the sticker off. 1:36:25.680 --> 1:36:28.280 No, don't they love it. Actually, they were hitting me 1:36:28.360 --> 1:36:28.760 up for merch. 1:36:29.160 --> 1:36:30.280 Should put some in the car. 1:36:30.640 --> 1:36:33.880 Yeah, I'll get them. I'll give them some merch too. 1:36:33.920 --> 1:36:35.479 You know what you meant to do with merch? You 1:36:35.600 --> 1:36:36.240 meant to sell it. 1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:38.840 You know, we got we wanted to give it to people, 1:36:38.880 --> 1:36:41.240 and then I realized it it's actually bloody expensive. 1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:42.479 It's really hard to send it. 1:36:42.479 --> 1:36:45.080 It's actually really expensive to send it to Pete that's. 1:36:44.960 --> 1:36:47.160 Why I gave you bloke umbrellas that time, because it's 1:36:47.200 --> 1:36:47.960 possible to sell it. 1:36:48.680 --> 1:36:50.760 That's on my post by the way, just on that. 1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:53.080 It is genuinely on my to do list this weekend. 1:36:53.120 --> 1:36:57.400 Guaranteed it's getting sent out, so so it is. People 1:36:57.400 --> 1:37:00.120 actually will I think we should eventually sell stuff, but 1:37:00.200 --> 1:37:01.920 we'll get to it this We might. 1:37:01.960 --> 1:37:04.439 Just come for seventy nine to ninety five plus eighty 1:37:04.479 --> 1:37:05.559 six dollars postage. 1:37:06.960 --> 1:37:09.479 It's so bloody expensive to post ship. But I've got 1:37:09.479 --> 1:37:10.760 a one on it. So it's going to be done, 1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:11.960 and it will be done this weekend. 1:37:12.360 --> 1:37:14.519 That's a one year old promise. It feels like it's 1:37:14.560 --> 1:37:16.439 a really low it took. 1:37:16.560 --> 1:37:18.439 It took a while for the for the great people 1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:20.400 of Machines Plus to get as the merge they were 1:37:20.400 --> 1:37:24.519 moving factories. Anyway, great people. It's next on the list. 1:37:25.680 --> 1:37:26.559 Apple and Tesla. 1:37:26.720 --> 1:37:30.800 Oh yeah, so again we should stop discussing stuff off fair, 1:37:30.880 --> 1:37:33.639 but we were discussing off air about. 1:37:33.520 --> 1:37:34.439 If you stopped eating. 1:37:34.640 --> 1:37:40.600 Yeah, that's yeah, Gordy eating us when I was Jesus. 1:37:40.880 --> 1:37:44.000 So I read in the Afar this morning that Apple 1:37:44.040 --> 1:37:47.200 and Tesla's share prices have taken a hit after they 1:37:47.200 --> 1:37:52.000 announce basically their results in China, both respectively getting boned 1:37:52.080 --> 1:37:57.080 by Chinese public and Chinese government making certain requests of 1:37:57.160 --> 1:37:59.160 citizens to switch funds. 1:37:59.479 --> 1:38:02.160 Chinese citizen follow their requestion too pretty strictly. 1:38:02.640 --> 1:38:04.439 So I'll get to Tesla in a second. Tell me 1:38:04.479 --> 1:38:08.280 with phones. So I use an iPhone, have used one forrages, 1:38:08.400 --> 1:38:11.160 used an Android for a little while, didn't love it. 1:38:11.280 --> 1:38:14.439 And the Google phones are great phones. The Google Androids 1:38:14.439 --> 1:38:15.759 are fantastic phone. 1:38:15.560 --> 1:38:20.360 Of the pigs just Google right. So now what's happening 1:38:20.400 --> 1:38:23.960 in China is they've been told, certainly for governments, that 1:38:24.040 --> 1:38:26.760 you can't have iPhones. And there was a quote from 1:38:26.800 --> 1:38:29.360 one person who didn't want to be sort of directly named, 1:38:29.400 --> 1:38:31.800 that said, basically, they came to the office and said, 1:38:31.840 --> 1:38:33.719 you've got two weeks to get rid of your iPhones. 1:38:34.040 --> 1:38:37.200 You're switching to Huawei's. Two weeks later, they came with 1:38:37.240 --> 1:38:39.599 a box and anyone that hadn't gotten rid of their 1:38:39.640 --> 1:38:41.800 iPhones was asked to put it in the box. Were 1:38:41.800 --> 1:38:45.080 getting twenty percent off. So they're all excited because it's 1:38:45.120 --> 1:38:47.400 a So anyway, the hui Wi they're getting is like 1:38:47.439 --> 1:38:52.040 some high end new thing with some fancy chipset where Yeah, 1:38:53.360 --> 1:38:55.760 ironically they were a lot of the people that were 1:38:55.800 --> 1:38:59.040 quoted in this story were concerned about Apple's spywear. 1:39:01.000 --> 1:39:04.439 Like if you think about the propaganda that exists in 1:39:04.439 --> 1:39:07.800 Australia over China and Huawei, And for full clarity, I 1:39:07.800 --> 1:39:09.479 have no problem with Whawei. There's no evidence they have 1:39:09.520 --> 1:39:12.080 done anything, so I think a lot of it is propaganda. 1:39:12.120 --> 1:39:14.759 But anyway, so on that, I always wanted that myself. 1:39:14.840 --> 1:39:17.280 Huawei, we're not allowed to build the five gene networks. 1:39:17.320 --> 1:39:18.880 Who do you think built the four g networks for 1:39:18.880 --> 1:39:22.360 Optus and votefone? Fucking we're still using. If they wanted 1:39:22.360 --> 1:39:24.280 to spy, they would have been fucking spying already. 1:39:24.320 --> 1:39:26.519 And that's my Other points to that as well, is 1:39:26.560 --> 1:39:29.160 that you can open up at Huawei phone, take every 1:39:29.160 --> 1:39:31.400 single bit apart and examine it to see if it 1:39:31.400 --> 1:39:33.720 has anything. It would have been easy to do by now. 1:39:33.800 --> 1:39:37.479 Yeah, and Huawei has no presence outside of China. They've 1:39:37.479 --> 1:39:39.639 got a sub brand called Honor, which does do pretty 1:39:39.640 --> 1:39:43.080 well in the US weirdly and Europe. But mate, those 1:39:43.120 --> 1:39:45.280 companies are so big that they can churn out enough 1:39:45.280 --> 1:39:49.880 phones for everyone there, right, so look, Apple is seen 1:39:49.920 --> 1:39:51.599 by Chinese in the same way as the scene here. 1:39:51.640 --> 1:39:54.760 It's this prestige thing, it's this better thing to have. 1:39:55.040 --> 1:39:57.000 But the fact is that you can do better than 1:39:57.040 --> 1:39:59.040 Apple with just a five hundred bucks. You don't really 1:39:59.080 --> 1:40:00.960 need to buy an iPhone. You could just get used 1:40:01.000 --> 1:40:05.000 to her bloody a cheap android phone. Generally belief stuff, 1:40:05.280 --> 1:40:07.200 this phone here that I'm using right now throughout five 1:40:07.240 --> 1:40:08.240 hundred and fifty bucks. 1:40:09.120 --> 1:40:10.960 What about drama about the camera stuff? 1:40:11.400 --> 1:40:13.160 I mean, I took a bunch of photos of my 1:40:13.680 --> 1:40:15.680 son's baseball on the weekend. It was great. I mean, 1:40:15.680 --> 1:40:17.320 I don't have any issues with it, Like. 1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:20.920 I think it's it's more just with the rest of mine. 1:40:20.920 --> 1:40:22.960 Put those photos away. I don't want to see one 1:40:23.080 --> 1:40:23.719 Jesus Christ. 1:40:23.760 --> 1:40:26.160 Well, actually, ironically, look at that. 1:40:26.560 --> 1:40:27.599 Have you seen that vehicle? 1:40:29.080 --> 1:40:30.439 Oh yeah, I've heard of me. 1:40:30.680 --> 1:40:33.040 Yeah right. So this is a phone company or a 1:40:33.080 --> 1:40:36.439 tech company in China making a fucking electric car. 1:40:36.680 --> 1:40:37.880 Hire the designer from. 1:40:38.840 --> 1:40:42.400 Get that designer from. 1:40:43.000 --> 1:40:44.439 It's like, it's a beautiful looking car. 1:40:44.560 --> 1:40:45.639 That's a nice looking car. 1:40:45.720 --> 1:40:47.720 But see that's what's happening in China. I was in 1:40:47.760 --> 1:40:49.920 Shanghai and I was blown away by the number of 1:40:49.920 --> 1:40:53.240 ev companies that I'd never heard of, Axion or something 1:40:53.240 --> 1:40:55.120 and all these different things. They've got a ship ton 1:40:55.160 --> 1:40:55.479 of car. 1:40:55.960 --> 1:40:57.080 You're very weird tonight. 1:40:57.560 --> 1:40:58.360 I worry about you. 1:40:58.680 --> 1:41:02.000 I'm worried about shte going. I saw you eat that pizza. 1:41:02.320 --> 1:41:04.320 He literally put it between two sizes of bread and 1:41:04.479 --> 1:41:05.240 ate it like a sandwich. 1:41:05.880 --> 1:41:06.559 That's going. 1:41:07.560 --> 1:41:10.080 I know. I took down the recipe. 1:41:10.160 --> 1:41:12.200 I did sneak a piece in while you're outside. 1:41:12.520 --> 1:41:17.360 Yeah, that cheesy crust. I haven't had one of those. Jesus, 1:41:17.400 --> 1:41:20.120 it's not bad. Good for Domino Dominos a sponsor of 1:41:20.120 --> 1:41:22.920 the show. They should they should be we should get 1:41:22.920 --> 1:41:25.559 a sponsor. Can you imagine we could get like e 1:41:25.720 --> 1:41:29.080 f T there you go, send me a proper and 1:41:29.280 --> 1:41:30.560 you imagined. 1:41:30.240 --> 1:41:31.439 Made a money by the look of it. 1:41:31.479 --> 1:41:36.120 Can you imagine me doing live reeson for Trevor em 1:41:36.200 --> 1:41:42.080 T what's it called? Anyway, if you want technological advice, 1:41:42.160 --> 1:41:43.880 don't send me a proper. Do you see that? Good 1:41:43.920 --> 1:41:49.439 people at is doing very well? He is doing great. 1:41:49.720 --> 1:41:53.240 He is He's he's certainly latched onto the electric car 1:41:54.080 --> 1:41:57.479 hitting situations. 1:41:58.280 --> 1:42:00.000 Great respect for his use of the algorithm. 1:42:00.160 --> 1:42:02.760 It's brilliant. I'll tell you what ifever. I need a 1:42:02.800 --> 1:42:06.559 torch or like a device to shave my balls. He's 1:42:06.600 --> 1:42:06.920 your man. 1:42:07.320 --> 1:42:09.920 Any no machine, machine work done. 1:42:10.080 --> 1:42:13.559 Yeah, fucking he fucking has it all. He's that neighbor 1:42:13.640 --> 1:42:14.559 you kind of want, like. 1:42:14.520 --> 1:42:17.640 You're putting you can you weld this together for me? 1:42:17.720 --> 1:42:20.599 He's like, yeah, sure, Yeah, you're fucking it up, you're 1:42:20.600 --> 1:42:23.000 doing it wrong. Come, I'll do it. And then he'll 1:42:23.000 --> 1:42:24.479 tell you how much of a dickhead you are for 1:42:24.479 --> 1:42:26.400 forty five minutes, and then you'll probably have a couple 1:42:26.400 --> 1:42:27.000 of beers with you. 1:42:27.920 --> 1:42:29.960 That sounds like pretty much my every day. 1:42:31.520 --> 1:42:34.719 Thanks for tuning in to the Driver's Show, proudly sponsored 1:42:34.720 --> 1:42:38.880 by a MIDSU Nano Taylor Oil Experience, the power of precision, 1:42:39.040 --> 1:42:41.920 and over one hundred years of engineering expertise. 1:42:42.240 --> 1:42:45.320 Want to know more? So it Amitsu Nano Taylor to 1:42:45.320 --> 1:42:46.559 oil a you today.