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Speaker 2: Oh jeeze, Okay, yeah yeah. Olivia is just having a

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Speaker 3: I can't Oliver.

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Speaker 2: She's a car enthusiast, produces The Driver's Show podcast and

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Speaker 2: tells us what to do. Pabli is not here, No,

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Speaker 2: where is he he is?

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Speaker 4: He's channing his little butt off, isn't he in Croatia.

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Speaker 4: He's a little butt little, not too big, not too small. Hey,

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Speaker 4: Jesus said.

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Speaker 2: I definitely definitely will be. You've been looking at his.

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Speaker 3: Ass only that one time when you touched it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked. In all fairness to me, he was

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Speaker 2: doing a pressed fruit bowl up against the glass of

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Speaker 2: the studio doors. That's what happened. Wow, that was let's

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Speaker 2: just say that fruit was out of season. There was

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Speaker 2: a serious, serious fruit fly issue going on that day anyway.

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Speaker 2: So what we thought we'd do today is best of

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Speaker 2: the guests of twenty twenty four. So we've got Dave

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Speaker 2: McCowan from news dot com dot au, Frank Cassidy, who

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Speaker 2: owns an exquisite Porsche collection a complex called Boxing Gas,

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Speaker 2: which is I think he's in the middle of the

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Speaker 2: UK countryside. But he's an incredible man with an incredible

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Speaker 2: Porscha collection. You can see it all on Instagram. But

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Speaker 2: the chat is coming up soon. And also just to

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Speaker 2: take the heat off some legal dramas with Trevor Long,

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Speaker 2: we decided to put him on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but he is coming up. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what else we need to tell everyone. You're

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Speaker 2: will trying to buy or looking at buying the Zuzuki Jimney,

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Speaker 2: which we were just talking about off air. Which color

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Speaker 4: I was thinking green? You blends in with the grass

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Speaker 4: if I need to go through the rainforest, okay, But

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Speaker 4: See if I really wanted dealers car dealership should be

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you get one and I get one? Do

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Speaker 2: you know what I've always wanted to do, Get a

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Speaker 2: couple of Jymneys and play that giant game of soccer

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Speaker 2: that they did on Top Gear the Arena Special Star

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Speaker 2: which with the big balls. Okay, leave Paul out of this,

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Speaker 2: it's getting weird.

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Speaker 4: That's ways in Croatia.

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Speaker 2: So yes, best of the guests coming up. Can we

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Speaker 4: I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: How we should introduce Dave mccowan's here. Can we give

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Speaker 2: a little clap? Yay from news dot Com. You or

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Speaker 2: to be a lot more professional content director for News

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Speaker 2: Corp Australia. Welk and take Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's quite the introduction.

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Speaker 6: I've known you for ages. Gordie has about five minutes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it. You've kind of moved into a new

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been writing about cars for a long time

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Speaker 5: cars as a company. And that's yeah. It's a huge promotion.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of a lot of fun, a lot

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Speaker 6: They were wheeling the cars into the area where we

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Speaker 6: Yes, so, but yeah, they wheeled this thing in and

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Speaker 6: then the second the car was there on the stage,

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Speaker 6: they took it off and the unveiling was incredible. They

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Speaker 6: I got to say, we've got a really close look

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks it looks amazing, and you can see

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Speaker 6: Of subscription I they were talking about They briefly mentioned

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Speaker 5: On the subscription run it does. It's hooked up with

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Speaker 6: What do you think about subscriptions.

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Speaker 5: They're they're everywhere, you know. The other day I attended

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Speaker 6: Good Saturday afternoon. But that's the thing I get subscriptions

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Speaker 6: That's why Tesla doesn't let you have Apple.

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Speaker 5: And that's the idea, is the digital dashboards in cars,

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm holding my not anything else. This is just

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Speaker 5: from my iPhone fifteen to sixteen, it's going to roll

437
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 5: over and have Ko and Spotify and all the stuff

438
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 5: that I'm paying for without me having to sign up

439
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 5: for anything new, and the phone is just a vessel

440
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 5: for those digital services. I think that's the way they're

441
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 5: looking at it from a car perspective.

442
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Speaker 2: Abs and stuff I can kind of get because you

443
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 2: can pick and choose what you like, and it's up

444
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: to you if you really want fucking Netflix in your

445
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: car whatever. But when it comes to stuff like whether

446
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 2: it be I don't know, suspension subscription, so you can

447
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 2: get like sports suspension or massage seats, or you know whatever,

448
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: I just that kind of thing. I mean, I get

449
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 2: you're kind of paying for that extra anyway, but I

450
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 2: feel like if it's in the car all along, you

451
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: should just fucking be able to have it.

452
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So this is KEYA. In the US, they've got

453
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Speaker 5: a mode for the EV nine. I wonder who'd buy

454
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Speaker 5: one of those to access to access the cars, Like,

455
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 5: it's got a level of performances standard, but if you

456
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,959
Speaker 5: want to go a little bit faster than you've got

457
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 5: to buy a Boost mode, which is nine hundred US

458
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 5: dollars again, fourteen hundred bucks to access. But it doesn't

459
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 5: change anything physically. It just changes the software in the

460
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 5: motor and the and the battery the way that it

461
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 5: outputs energy. I mean, Motor Trend did a really great

462
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 5: story with this where they've got a long term EV

463
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 5: nine and they went into the touchscreen and bought everything

464
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 5: that they could find and it was twenty eight hundred dollars.

465
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 5: It was a lot of shit. So like, if you've

466
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Speaker 5: got imagine imagine you know, your your kids footy training

467
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 5: or something like that, and that you're the paarent out

468
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 5: they're standing with the umbrella and one of your kids says, oh,

469
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 5: can I just go and sit in the car? Please

470
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 5: come back to like three grand where the stuff they've

471
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Speaker 5: had it.

472
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Speaker 6: It's now convertible. They've pressed too many buds.

473
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 5: Some of it's really interesting, like this idea that you know,

474
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Speaker 5: if you've got a favorite sports team, you can customize

475
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 5: the car's ambient lighting and the theme of the dashboard

476
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 5: to like the LA Lakers. And that's a one off

477
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 5: forty dollars charge over there, but you could probably do

478
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 5: that anyway by just messing around with the ambient lighting

479
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 5: and all that sort of stuff deep in the menus.

480
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Speaker 6: Yeah, because you know, as a Forward Ranger owner, I've

481
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 6: been having a look at the range of forums and

482
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 6: they've got this tool that you can basically plug into

483
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 6: the OBD port and it's called four scan or something

484
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 6: like that, but you can basically.

485
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Speaker 2: Four scar.

486
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Speaker 7: Sure you've got to help on if you can drive

487
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 7: a Raptor, but basically it allows you to enable all

488
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Speaker 7: of these features that your car has but you don't have.

489
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Speaker 6: So for example, if you drive any ever a store

490
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Speaker 6: or Ranger that isn't equipped with it, you only have

491
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Speaker 6: a certain number of drive modes, whereas if you enable

492
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 6: these features, you can actually have something like a sport mode.

493
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 6: Then they have a sort of tank turn feature which

494
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 6: they've released on the Tremor, which all the cars can do.

495
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Speaker 6: You just tick a box and then it appears on

496
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 6: the infotainment screen. It's just again it's all software driven.

497
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 6: All the cars have the same hardware. It's just the

498
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Speaker 6: software is then enabled to allow it to happen.

499
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Speaker 2: So this thing is basicarly a plug in that kind

500
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: of hacks the system pretty much.

501
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's some sort of a license. Someone whiz

502
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 6: bang has come up with this, but I think it's

503
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 6: it's like you said, you could do it to any car. Really,

504
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 6: if you know that the hardware is there, it will

505
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 6: just do it for you. So yeah, it's that's fascinating stuff. Now,

506
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 6: I was gonna throw at a bit of a curveball here.

507
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Speaker 6: The worst car launch you've ever attended?

508
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Speaker 5: Oh, I haven't thought about that much at all. I mean,

509
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 5: the smart one the other day did miss in a

510
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 5: couple of places. There's no video to start with, so

511
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 5: that's that's pretty hard these days. But this is what

512
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 5: we're doing. Except that I loved it because I just

513
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 5: shoot everything on my phone.

514
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 6: And no one else can.

515
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, basically knocked that one out really quick. And you

516
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 5: know the lunch was like lobster tail and oysters and cavia. No,

517
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 5: no really it's seafood. And that was at about eleven d.

518
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 5: I know, look it is. It is a struggle, yeah,

519
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 5: but we will prevail.

520
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Speaker 2: Do you find do you find that certain countries put

521
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Speaker 2: on better parties than others, Like like Chinese car companies

522
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: will bring out everything, whereas I don't know, a German

523
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: company might just be like, sit up and enjoy our car.

524
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it depends on how much they want to impress here.

525
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 5: I remember the first time I went on a Key

526
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 5: launch there was a sixteen course Degas station lunch. And

527
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 5: the first time I went on a Mercedes launch it

528
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 5: was for an AMG product that everyone It was the

529
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Speaker 5: new A forty five when that first came out like

530
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 5: ten years ago, and that was that was a really

531
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 5: hot car that everyone wanted to drive. And lunch was

532
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 5: at a pie Shot and the pr blow could just

533
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 5: put his credit card on the bar. I was like, yeah,

534
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 5: I mean, treat yourself to a milkshake if you like

535
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 5: talking about bad press launches. I mean Paul and I

536
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 5: attended an absolute cracker of one in the Middle East.

537
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 5: He knows where I'm going with this. It was a

538
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 5: it was, it was brilliant. It was for the Maserati

539
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 5: Levante diesel, which I think we can all agree is

540
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 5: not a great car to start with. I mean they

541
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 5: launched that thing with the diesel from an old jeep

542
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 5: which was really bad. And the later Levante's, don't get

543
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 5: me wrong, they were incredible. They put these twin turbo

544
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 5: v eights in them, basically out of a Ferrari for

545
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 5: a eight, and they were fast and they sounded awesome.

546
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 5: But the original cars were new, no, not that, and

547
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 5: they wanted to show how capable this thing was off road.

548
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 5: So we went into the desert with two or three

549
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 5: press cars and then we were supported by another vehicle,

550
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: which I assumed was going to be a patroller or a

551
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 5: land cruise or something like that, but it was another Maserati,

552
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 5: and every single one of them shot the bed spectacularly.

553
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 5: I think the best ones, Like I was following Paul

554
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 5: at one point and yeah, like the air suspension was

555
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 5: dumping out, So these things would have them raised up

556
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 5: as high as possible to drive in deep sand in

557
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 5: the desert. And then when the air suspension would pack in.

558
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 5: They would turn into like la low riders and scrape

559
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 5: their bellies on.

560
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Speaker 6: The sand like a shovel.

561
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so there was that. I mean, the electric

562
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 5: parking brakes are basically welding themselves on. The cabins were

563
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 5: filling with sand and everything was clogging up. I mean,

564
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 5: I had I've got a video of the check engine

565
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 5: lights and warning lights on my phone. It's about three

566
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Speaker 5: minutes long.

567
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

568
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 5: It was pretty epic, and the support vehicle was pretty

569
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Speaker 5: funny as well, because that thing died. And then Paul like,

570
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 5: we don't get me wrong, we get spoilt quite a bit.

571
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 5: There is there is, like I'm not exaggerating about lobster

572
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 5: tails and caveat that happens. We were not spoilt on

573
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 5: this event though, where we were digging these things out

574
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Speaker 5: of the sand with our bare hands.

575
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Speaker 2: Basically. Do you know what the best part about that

576
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Speaker 2: story is the most reliable car there was, the Press

577
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Speaker 2: Mini Bus to get your.

578
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Speaker 6: Gordy. You've worked with Itamitsu before at their launch event.

579
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I have. I've gotta say I was really impressed.

580
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581
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582
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583
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584
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585
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Speaker 6: So what stood out to you the most?

586
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Speaker 2: Okay, so they've got this nano tailored oil and this

587
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588
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589
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592
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597
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598
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601
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602
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603
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604
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605
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606
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Speaker 6: If it's good enough for manufacturers like Toyota and Masda,

615
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Speaker 6: then it sounds good enough for me. Gordon, thank you.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly right, Pavlo.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't have said it better myself. That was great.

623
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Speaker 6: I'm always carrying this show.

624
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Speaker 2: Have you been good?

625
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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, great?

626
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Speaker 2: Did you get any letters like I did from the

627
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Speaker 2: lawyers of Trevor Long? Hey, we're chatting with a really

628
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Speaker 2: cool guy. One I've been a fan for a long

629
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Speaker 2: time and I'm glad he agreed to this podcast. Frankly,

630
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Speaker 2: his name's Frank Cassidy and he has arguably one of

631
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632
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Speaker 2: like a gallery, like he's almost curated this collection. Then

633
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Speaker 2: it's just next level. In a warehouse in the middle

634
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635
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636
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Speaker 2: It's literally a nine to eleven mecha by guys.

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Speaker 8: How's it going? Thanks for the invite. I appreciate it.

638
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Speaker 2: What a stunning beautiful day it looks like in the UK.

639
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know what, it doesn't happen often here, so

640
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Speaker 9: when the weather is good, yeah, we take advantage.

641
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a.

642
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Speaker 9: Shame the world is burning. But otherwise it's been an

643
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Speaker 9: amazing summer over here. We've had up to what was

644
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Speaker 9: it up to I think it was thirty eight degrees.

645
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Speaker 8: The nine degrees which for us is very hot.

646
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Speaker 2: Also the hottest it getus down there probably like forty three.

647
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, we definitely haven't got to that point quite yet.

648
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we have like air conditioners and stuff. I remember

649
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Speaker 6: I was in the UK once when it was like

650
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Speaker 6: a thirty three degree day and I was staying in

651
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Speaker 6: this hotel that was made entirely of concrete and it

652
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Speaker 6: was like a Turkish spa. It was like a sauna

653
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 6: in there. It was crazy.

654
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

655
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, No, we don't really do our conditioning over here,

656
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 9: although it's becoming more prevalent. But yeah, do you guys

657
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 9: hear about boxing gows and what we're doing.

658
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I first stumbled across you, I guess

659
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: on Instagram, because Instagram has this amazing sort of way

660
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: of recommending people that you'd be into following, for instance,

661
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: and I guess after looking at far too many Porsche

662
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: videos and photos, you eventually came up and I was like, Wow,

663
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: this is a guy who's got probably arguably I think

664
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Speaker 2: you've probably got one of the world's best collections.

665
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 9: Oh, I don't know about that. I mean, it's all

666
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 9: very subjective. I'll take the compliment.

667
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 8: That's very kind of you.

668
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 9: Thanks for the kind of interest in I don't know

669
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 9: in my little side of Porsche.

670
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a few. I think there's a

671
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: few figureheads around the world. You'll one, maybe Magnus is

672
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: another one, and there's probably a few over in Germany

673
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: as well. But tell us about Box and Gas because

674
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: it's such a I guess an amazing concept because it's

675
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: not just you with a stunning collection of cars of

676
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: old Porsches. It's really almost like a mecca for nine

677
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: to eleven, right, yeah, I.

678
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Speaker 8: No, thanks.

679
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 9: Yeah. It's essentially a one hundred acre estate that's entirely

680
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 9: dedicated to Porsche. We bore the estate in war was

681
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 9: at twenty seventeen, so about five years ago, and we'd

682
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 9: be building of us since then. So we've built twenty

683
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 9: thousand square feet which are all least to one of

684
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 9: the UK's most prominent Porsche specialists, and then we've got

685
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 9: another thirty thousand squathy that will be finished by the

686
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 9: end of the year, so in total we'll be at

687
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 9: fifty thousand square feet within the estate and our activities

688
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 9: are we're essentially a glorified business park. It's a very

689
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 9: raw business park with a lot of land around us,

690
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 9: and so we lease the space to Porsche related businesses

691
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 9: and then otherwise we have an annual event called Megaphonics,

692
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 9: and then we have a range of merchandise. And yeah,

693
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 9: so as time goes on, when these last thirty thousand

694
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 9: square feet open, will suddenly be able to do things

695
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 9: on a much more regular basis because there'll be infrastructure

696
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 9: for more hospitality. And when that happens, I will mean

697
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 9: that that we'll be able to do things on a

698
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 9: much more regular basis, so monthly cars and coffee and

699
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 9: that kind of stuff.

700
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: That's so cool. Tell us about the Francassidy origin story.

701
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: I guess when you curate and acquire this sort of

702
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: a collection of cars, you know there must have been

703
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: there must have been something pretty special deep inside to

704
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: kind of start this off.

705
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's I mean, it's not the most of interesting

706
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 9: of stories, but essentially what's gond I have been obsessed,

707
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 9: like many of us, with cars all my life and

708
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 9: it all started with my mum buying me on cassette

709
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 9: The Love Bug, the nineteen sixty seventh film, And it

710
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 9: started off with beetles, and then naturally, as you start

711
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 9: reading about beetles, eventually discovered Porsche. There was something about

712
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 9: the cowl of guys that really resonated with me. So

713
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 9: that was a group of California guys had a very

714
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 9: laid back attitude but were into drag racing, so they

715
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 9: kind of stripped their beetles of all all unnecessary weight.

716
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 9: And I just really like that philosophy. And so that's

717
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 9: kind of philosophy that I tried to apply to to

718
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 9: some of my more my more extreme cars. Yeah, and

719
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 9: I don't know, that's kind of I guess where it

720
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 9: kind of started.

721
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I I've you know, Porsches are I think

722
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's the type of car that that

723
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 6: really regardless of which application may try and attempt, whether

724
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 6: it's a nine or even in a box are a

725
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 6: k in, you know, regardless of what they do, they

726
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 6: kind of execute it. Well, I think you have a

727
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 6: bit of an affinity with air called Porsches. Do you

728
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 6: do you like modern Porsches or do you think that

729
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 6: it's the classic stuff that really sort of tickles you fancy?

730
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate modern Porsches. I've owned modern Porsches before.

731
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 9: We've had a kN as a family, and I've had

732
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 9: a nine to seven Turbo in the past, which is

733
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 9: an amazingly capable car.

734
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 5: And I have huge.

735
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 9: Amounts of respect for modern cars and what they're capable of.

736
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 9: It just happens to be the stuff that really, I

737
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 9: don't know, pause of my heartstrings.

738
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 8: Seems to be the air called stuff.

739
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 9: I think a lot of the star I mean, again,

740
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 9: you know, there's a lot of tchoes out there, but

741
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 9: a lot of the modern stuff is very it's very

742
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 9: very clinical, and it kind of drives itself. And I

743
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 9: respect that massive because there's a huge amount of engineering

744
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 9: that has to go into a car in order to

745
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 9: make it do that. But the old stuff is I

746
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 9: just find it. I find it rewarding from from the

747
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 9: get go, from you know, having to track down a car,

748
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 9: track tracking down a car, getting it back, spending time

749
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 9: with it, figuring out what's wrong with it, getting it

750
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 9: back to like because they all have something wrong, figuring

751
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 9: out what's wrong with it, fixing those things, getting a

752
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 9: nice baseline, driving it for about a year or so,

753
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 9: and then and then setting about creating something that that

754
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 9: I think the car is meant to be. So there's

755
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 9: a very personal aspect to it, I.

756
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 8: Think, and with a lot of modern stuff.

757
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 9: It's all relatively reliable, it's all in good nick which

758
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 9: has which has all its which has its, which has

759
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 9: its place and its merit. But it's less of I

760
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 9: don't know, it's less of a journey that you go

761
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 9: on with it, if that makes sense. So, yeah, the

762
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 9: the older stuff tends to appeal to me a little

763
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 9: bit more than the the newer stuff. But it doesn't

764
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 9: mean to say that I don't have huge much respect

765
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 9: for it, and that there are some days where, you know,

766
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 9: when when several cars have gone wrong, that I just

767
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 9: think I just want to sell everything and buy, you know,

768
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 9: something modern with a warranty, and it make my life easy.

769
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, what do you think the cutoff is with

770
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: a modern Porsche to I guess a classic? Where does

771
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: the year sort of beginning? Where's the lines?

772
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 8: It's so it's so.

773
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 9: Subjective, you know, because I remember being I mean, I've

774
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 9: been a several car mets. I've seen online people saying, oh,

775
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 9: the last analog in nine eleven is a nine ninety

776
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 9: seven or a nine nine six or nine nine three,

777
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 9: and it people.

778
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 8: I think people.

779
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 9: Define an analog nine eleven based on their own experience.

780
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, so from from my.

781
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 9: Perspective, and I'm lucky enough to have driven pretty much

782
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 9: every single generation of Porsche there.

783
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 8: Is out there.

784
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 9: Of the air call variety, I would say it kind

785
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 9: of stops at the nine sixty four. The temptation is

786
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 9: to say the nine nine three because it's the it's

787
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 9: the last of the air cool car. But actually I

788
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 9: define a nine to eleven not necessarily by its engine,

789
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 9: although that is a key factor in the air called

790
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 9: engine is a key factor, but by the way that

791
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 9: it drives, and so like everything that came the nine

792
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 9: six four is the only generation of nine eleven to

793
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 9: have single arm rear trailing arms, whereas the nine nine

794
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 9: three came in with multi link and the one before

795
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 9: the nine six four is a torsion bar car. So

796
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 9: what I'm essentially getting at is that I think that

797
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 9: the nine ninety three changed the game so much without

798
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 9: multi link rear end, without amazing engineering that went into it,

799
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 9: but that for me really was a milestone and how

800
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 9: the car went round the corner, and I personally think

801
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 9: there's a very clear distinction between the nine six four

802
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 9: and the nine nine three.

803
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 6: The other curious thing is, well, Porscha has recently come

804
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 6: out and said that they're working on e fuels and

805
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 6: they're actually building a production facility in Tasmania here in Australia.

806
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 6: And I think it's really fascinating because Porscha Isn't Isn't

807
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 6: kind of saying to all of their customers and their fans,

808
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 6: like you, Hey, you've got an old car. It's going

809
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 6: to be bad luck. You're not going to be able

810
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 6: to do anything with it in ten or fifteen years

811
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 6: when the world goes to electric. Do you think that

812
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 6: the a fuel sort of idea actually has merit And

813
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 6: do you think that people that are in classic vehicles

814
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 6: and especially Porsches will take advantage of something like that

815
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 6: in the future.

816
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think for me looking at it from from

817
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 9: from an even a wider perspective, I think, you know,

818
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 9: without wanting to go too far into it, but I

819
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 9: think I think our biggest, our biggest problem as a

820
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 9: human race is our race of consumption. And I think

821
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 9: that if we can reuse the things that we already

822
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 9: have or slow down our race consumption, then we're we're

823
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 9: we're we're much better. And I think that applying that

824
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 9: to to what you're saying about e fuels makes sense

825
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 9: to me. I think that keeping an older car on

826
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 9: the road going for a longer period of time is

827
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 9: certainly a better thing to do than to keep manufacturing,

828
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 9: you know, new products. So I think the manufacturing that

829
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 9: goes into any new car, whether we're electric or non electric,

830
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 9: has its carbon footprint. And I think that if we

831
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 9: can keep older cars on the road or older products,

832
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 9: keep using our all the products supposed to to to

833
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 9: having new ones, I think that's a good thing. So

834
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 9: I think I think synthetic.

835
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 8: Fuels are a very good idea.

836
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 9: I like the idea of being able to carry on

837
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 9: using our cars.

838
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 8: I like the idea of.

839
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 9: Carrying on being able to use the infrastructure we already have.

840
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 9: We've got all these fuel stations already all around the world,

841
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 9: and if we can carry on using them as opposed

842
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 9: to having to manufacture and build more electric stations, which

843
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 9: again has this carbon footprint, I think that's a good thing.

844
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 9: I think that the thing for me is it's it's

845
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 9: very easy to look I think it's very easy for

846
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 9: politicians to look at cars and just go, okay, well

847
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 9: we'll look straight, we'll look at what.

848
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 8: Comes out of the tail pipe.

849
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 9: But actually the carbon footprint overall starts from the day

850
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 9: that it's manufactured to the day that it becomes obsolete.

851
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 9: And I think that that that is something that we

852
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 9: were as we as I don't know we're as a

853
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 9: world are are certainly appreciating more and more. Yeah, so

854
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 9: it's got my vote as the short answer.

855
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: It's funny. It's funny that you're mentioning sustainability too, because

856
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: I feel like the way that you collect in a

857
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: quiet cars you kind of talk about that you are

858
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: preserving these pieces almost like pieces of art for the

859
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: next custodians, which I think is really cool, which.

860
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 8: Is Yeah, I appreciate that.

861
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 9: I think that, you know, all of us have a

862
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 9: finite amount of time on this planet, and what's called

863
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 9: we use what we can and we pass on what

864
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 9: we can to the next generation. And I think it's

865
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 9: the same thing with cars. I think it's a bit

866
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 9: too yeah, so so so so Yeah, I think I

867
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 9: hope that I hope that in some way, one shape

868
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 9: or another, that somebody else will get to enjoy the

869
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 9: car after I'm gone, and I'm.

870
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 8: Pleased to have enjoyed it after the previous owner.

871
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, your collection is massive, as we've sort of covered

872
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: and as people can say. But because with your collection,

873
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: I sort of figure that every single model, every single year,

874
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: everything kind of has its own I guess language about it.

875
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: If you like, there's sort of this is a really

876
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: bad example, but you can pretty much teach anyone French.

877
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: But fluency is definitely one thing, and I think driving

878
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: like a certain older car requires a little bit of

879
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: fluency on how you drive. You've got to know the

880
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: ins and outs of it, do you know what I mean?

881
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, totally.

882
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 9: I mean it's I totally get you know, some people go, Okay,

883
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 9: well why so much Porsche, you know, like that, there's

884
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 9: other things to the world, And I totally get there,

885
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 9: and I've been there.

886
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 8: I've experimented world the cars. But actually that's a very surface.

887
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 9: Level, and I think that when when when you look

888
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 9: at the cars that I'm fortunate enough to have, they

889
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 9: actually have they offer very different driving experiences. There's cars

890
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 9: in there which are very good at going out with

891
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 9: the missus for a Sunday drive, you know, nice and

892
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 9: quiet and comfortable as cars in there that are very

893
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 9: good for crossing Constance because my wife and I love

894
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 9: road trips and it's nice and quiet and.

895
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 8: Comfortable as well. There's cars in there which are incredibly.

896
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 9: Good at alpine tools, so they're stripped out, very very raw,

897
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 9: and it is literally all about that experience being on

898
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 9: that alpine pass on to rain rough roads. And then

899
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 9: there are cars in there which are very good at

900
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 9: just being track cars, so still street legal, so I

901
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 9: can get to the track without having to trailer cars

902
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 9: because it's my idea of a nightmare. And there are

903
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 9: also race cars, so so essentially there's there's a very

904
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 9: eclectic mix, even though it's all one brand.

905
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: When you love to have a garage like that, Paul

906
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: literally like I'd like to go to the Alps, but

907
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: I also want one for a bit of a road

908
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: trip to that concert on the weekend. That would be fun.

909
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 8: No, don't get me wrong.

910
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 9: I I totally appreciate how fortunately this fortunate I am,

911
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 9: and and it is certainly a little bit absurd for sure,

912
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 9: But I think, I think, I think the main thing

913
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 9: is that in my view, cars cars have to cars

914
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 9: have to appeal to a mass audience. They need to

915
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 9: they need to be good at everything in order to

916
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 9: appeal to a mass audience and and and make the

917
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 9: shareholders happy. But The truth is we're all unique individuals

918
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 9: with a unique different requirements, and so there's nothing I

919
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 9: think more personal than making your car a true, truest

920
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 9: representation of what driving really means to use an individual

921
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 9: so yeah, so so so, And it also makes an

922
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 9: undiluted experience. It means it's not compromised that one thing

923
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 9: or another. When I go to the racetrack, I know

924
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 9: that this car was built to do that task to

925
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 9: the utmost. And when I'm crossing the continent with the

926
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 9: Misses for a holiday, I know that that car is

927
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 9: perfect for that job and uncompromised.

928
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 6: Also, what do you reckon about like a singer and

929
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 6: some of the people that are now doing av conversions

930
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 6: of classics? Do you reckon that that that stuff ruins

931
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 6: what should be a vehicle that stays as it is?

932
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: Or do you think that you know when it comes

933
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 6: to whatever someone wants to do to a car, that

934
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 6: there really is no wrong choice.

935
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 8: To be honest with you, my view is your car,

936
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 8: your rules.

937
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 9: I think that we spend a lot, we spend a

938
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 9: little bit too much time criticizing other other people and

939
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 9: always having to express a point of view, and sometimes

940
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 9: we don't have to have a point of view on anything.

941
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, you know, I think singer, what

942
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 9: Singer do is is brilliant. The quality of their craftsmanship

943
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 9: is absolutely fantastic, roof you know, all of them. It's

944
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 9: it's very it's a very interesting space. But it just

945
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 9: it's it's a very different world. I mean when when

946
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 9: I started, the first nine to eleven I bought was

947
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 9: for seven thousand pounds, you know, and it was a

948
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 9: ninety six four. It was six four when I bought

949
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 9: that because I couldn't afford a nine ninety six and

950
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 9: also because I preferred the classic cars, and it meant

951
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 9: because it was a cheap car, it meant that we

952
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 9: could go on circuit, you could chuck it into a wall,

953
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 9: you could rebuild it with parts from the scrap heap,

954
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 9: because there were there were loads of parts of that

955
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 9: time especially, and it didn't owe you very much.

956
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 8: Sorry, yeah, it didn't owe you very much.

957
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 9: So so the world has has suddenly changed, and it's

958
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 9: just it's just funny, how you know. To me, a

959
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 9: ninety six four is a is a seven grand car.

960
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 9: It's a car that you can modify without having to

961
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 9: worry about originality. It's a car that you can take

962
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 9: the track and if you crash it, it's not the

963
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 9: end of the world. And all of a sudden, you

964
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 9: know they're they're all of a sudden, it's been a

965
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 9: whild now but being turned into two singers with much

966
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 9: higher price tagers than seven thousand pounds, so it's it's

967
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 9: it's it's interesting to see how that car is ge

968
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 9: that car.

969
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 8: Has turned around.

970
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 9: And the nine six four was a really interesting model.

971
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 9: It came out in the nineties of the time of

972
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 9: a recession, so they weren't very they weren't sold in

973
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 9: big numbers that they're relatively rare, and and a lot

974
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 9: of them fell into disrepair because people weren't willing to

975
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 9: spend the money on the car that was worth so little.

976
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 8: And they also suffered from dual math flywheel issues in

977
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 8: the first year, and.

978
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 9: They had no head seating gaskets, so the then they

979
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 9: meat a lot of all so they got all immediately

980
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 9: bad pressed. So again it was just more more salt

981
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 9: to the wound, for want of a better expression, when

982
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 9: it came to the to when it came to the

983
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 9: nicest four becoming the dog dog of the nine eleven

984
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 9: one that nobody wanted, nobody wanted, whereas a nine ninety

985
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 9: three was a car that everybody loved from day one

986
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 9: and never lost. I don't know so much value, but yeah,

987
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 9: but it's just interesting to see how the nine score

988
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 9: is really has really turned around in that way in

989
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 9: the nine eleven world. And it's certainly one of my

990
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 9: absolute favorite models. I think it's a brilliant, brilliant car.

991
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 6: Isn't it crazy how car prices have gone through the

992
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 6: roof and and cars that were ship boxers are now

993
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 6: incredibly expensive. Does that change what you want to do

994
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 6: with the car? I mean previously, if if you know

995
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 6: a car that you bought was seven thousand pounds, would

996
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 6: you want to actually go out and drive that car?

997
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 8: Now?

998
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 6: If it's a fifty fifty thousand pound car, now, I mean,

999
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 6: does that change your frame of mind depending on what

1000
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 6: it's actually worth on the market.

1001
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, it does. It does for certain people for sure.

1002
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 8: I Mean there was a time which is a brilliant

1003
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 8: circut in Belgium.

1004
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 9: If you haven't heard of it, it's it's got to

1005
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 9: be one of my favorite It's got to be my

1006
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 9: favorite racetrack full stop.

1007
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 8: It's just got.

1008
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 9: Everything off Canber's gradient changes all the rest of it.

1009
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 9: At one end of the track it can be raining,

1010
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 9: the other end of it it's it's sunshine. And anyway,

1011
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 9: we used to do like a pilgrimage over there for England,

1012
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 9: driving straight over and we'd be we'd be a group

1013
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 9: of I don't know, fifteen twenty nine six fours and

1014
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 9: by the time all the guards from Europe had joined

1015
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 9: us as well, we'd be like thirty forty. And there

1016
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 9: was a time when there was like thirty forty nine

1017
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 9: six fours all on circuit, you know, going up a

1018
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 9: rouge which is which is, which is an amazing straight

1019
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 9: and it'd be like watching skits was going up aslide,

1020
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 9: you know, all these amazing colors and I mean.

1021
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 8: Those were those were those that was.

1022
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 9: There was a great time, that was really really great time.

1023
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 9: It'd be two days on circuit and you just don't

1024
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 9: see that anymore. You know, people are much more protective

1025
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 9: of their cars because of the values, and I totally

1026
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 9: get that, I absolutely get that, but it is it

1027
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 9: is a bit of a shame because at the end

1028
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 9: of the day, these cars are meant for driving, and

1029
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 9: they are they they they should be used. But then again,

1030
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 9: like I've said before, you know, I don't want to

1031
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 9: pass opinion. You know what's called everybody has has a

1032
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 9: different take on how to enjoy a car, And yeah,

1033
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 9: my opinion is I just I just want to drive

1034
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 9: endlessly and regardless of the value of the cars ensured,

1035
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 9: the cars ensured and if something goes wrong, well you

1036
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 9: know that's what insurance is there for.

1037
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ever go outside the realm of the

1038
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: nine to elevens? Like you know, I've got a soft

1039
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: spot for say the nine two four for instance, talk

1040
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: about a bad press that's kind of known as the

1041
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: ugly Porsche, the poor man's Porsche, everything under the sun.

1042
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: I just think there's something really cool and individual about it.

1043
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, do you ever sort of go outside the

1044
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: nine to eleven?

1045
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1046
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 9: Do I ever go outside the nine eleven? Well, I

1047
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 9: guess the only Porsche that I've owned that's no. Nine

1048
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 9: to eleven is that kN and then a couple of

1049
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 9: three five sixes, and I've still got a beat or

1050
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 9: knocking about. But no, not enough, not enough. I mean,

1051
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 9: I'd love to get a hold of a nine two

1052
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 9: eight or some point another I'd love to get hold

1053
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 9: of like a first gen Kman and build like a

1054
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 9: real hot rod out of that. I think that'd be

1055
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 9: a lot of fun. But I think you know you're

1056
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 9: there's there's some great Porsches out there, and I think

1057
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 9: what's awesome about the band is about the brand is

1058
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 9: that it's a very inclusive one. You know, some some

1059
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 9: cars like Lamborghinis or Ferraris, if you're talking other exotic cars,

1060
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 9: the point of entry is so expensive that it is

1061
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 9: prohibitive for a lot of people.

1062
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 8: Whereas with Porsches you get.

1063
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 9: Everything from like a three ground boxer all the way

1064
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 9: up to a multimillion pound collector cart. And I think

1065
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 9: that's really really awesome because it equalizes. It becomes a

1066
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 9: great equalizer, and you meet people from all different walks

1067
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 9: of life.

1068
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: Watch what Trevor does. He's going to put this pizza

1069
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: on like it came up plate, chop it up with

1070
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: a credit card and snuffer like Nadia Bartow. He's an

1071
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: impression of Trevor gonna subway eating a foot long sub Next.

1072
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. God, I come here for this? What do

1073
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: I come here?

1074
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: That's I've missed you. That's why you've got a beautiful watch.

1075
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: Why do I come here with things with things nov?

1076
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: I think I can talk about WHI things. Nova is

1077
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: what it is. It's beautiful, but it's a smart watch

1078
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: SOG and pasture monitoring and watch. Yeah, it's funny. I

1079
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: was at Abudabi Airport a couple of weeks ago and

1080
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: I was looking because I always look at watches because

1081
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: I'm an idiot and have bought some. And I was like,

1082
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: they didn't have a tag store. I'm a tag man,

1083
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: but they had an Omega store that so I was

1084
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 3: just entertaining the dude, mainly think I was going to

1085
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: buy a watch. I was never gonna buy one, but

1086
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: I looked at one and it's fedink look like this,

1087
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: you know, metal band.

1088
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: Blue, And I thought your gun for what were you

1089
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: looking at?

1090
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 3: It was? I don't know what it was, but I

1091
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 3: was just rarer.

1092
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 10: You look at that thing, Oh yeah, that would be

1093
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 10: it would be like the for a Mega. It was

1094
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 10: something like a Sea Master or something anyway, looked like that.

1095
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 10: It was like seven grand euro And I get back

1096
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 10: open this thing from with ings and I'm like, shit,

1097
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 10: that looks like the watch I just looked at. I'm

1098
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 10: very happy with it so you don't have to get

1099
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 10: a full touch screen that's actually smart watch.

1100
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 6: Because the thing I hate about the Apple Watch is

1101
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 6: that it's an Apple watch and it's.

1102
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: Not really Everyone knows you're wearing an Apple Watch. They

1103
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: know you're in the Apple ecosystem, and let's be real,

1104
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: most people don't do anything with this smart watch other

1105
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: than look at the time. So this is a beautiful analog.

1106
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 6: Watch or midway through a conversation fucking lifted up and

1107
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 6: read a message in front of you, which I think

1108
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 6: is the rudest fucking thing in the world.

1109
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: Very rude. It's like when you go out to buy

1110
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: a Porsche but instead you just end up with a

1111
00:50:59,400 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: Coopra ball.

1112
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: I would never go out and buy a push by

1113
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: a Coopra. Yeah, I still love that car.

1114
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 6: Quickly as well. Just on the Porsch thing, did you

1115
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 6: see they announced pricing for the Tykhan GT.

1116
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: The most boring car ever.

1117
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, but this is the one that's sorry, Yeah, the

1118
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 6: nevergering record time it was I think it was something

1119
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 6: like ten dollars less than a GT three, so it

1120
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 6: was over four hundred thousand dollars, which is clinically insane.

1121
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, but people are clinically insane. You see what

1122
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: cars are on the road. Yeah, I mean people are.

1123
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: But hang on, do you not like the ty caon?

1124
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: No? No, no, sorry, I had the MC in my head,

1125
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: like the bloody ev that.

1126
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a bolk cellar.

1127
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: That's terrible. I get it. I get the important of it.

1128
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: I mean that's a car.

1129
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: Then you don't think it will be as a lev

1130
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping.

1131
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 6: My understanding is they're actually going to make a normal

1132
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 6: looking version of because I think the one that they've

1133
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 6: shown so far is like a Coupei looked, because it

1134
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 6: just looks frumpy, right and strange, and it just climbed

1135
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 6: in price like a McCann is to start with that

1136
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 6: foce Inland deturbot like eighty or ninety grand. Yeah, this

1137
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 6: is starting it well over one hundred grand out because

1138
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 6: it's electric only.

1139
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 3: I was going to so that's the electric parity problem.

1140
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it.

1141
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: So we've discussed before. It's still I reckon, it's still

1142
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: at fifteen to twenty grand. The parody absolutely differential.

1143
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: But it was meant to be.

1144
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 6: I remember they were all spouting by twenty twenty five

1145
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:18,959
Speaker 6: that would be dead even.

1146
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 3: But if you talk to some people like I remember

1147
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 3: Luke Todd from BYD Who's you know. I like the bloke.

1148
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: I like him.

1149
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: I love He's story about him later, Yeah, I like

1150
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: the guy.

1151
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 3: But he would talk about I remember the Dolphin. When

1152
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: he was talking about the Dolphin luck a year before

1153
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: it coming, he goes, I've got one coming that's going

1154
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: to be it's going to be parody, you know, No, no, no,

1155
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's not. It's come out at forty grand.

1156
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: I can get I can think of a nine thirty

1157
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 3: for almost half that. We're not at parody, we're not

1158
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 3: even closed.

1159
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: But the ev world, I think they did pretty well

1160
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: with that. I mean they took on the yes.

1161
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 3: But do you do you really think that thirty thirty

1162
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: eight thousand dollars is good value for such a small car.

1163
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 6: And your average Australian at the moment that they are

1164
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 6: literally struggling to pay their bills and you want to

1165
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 6: go get a car that is the size of a

1166
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 6: slight larger than a Yaris or something, and you want

1167
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 6: them to pay forty grand for it if.

1168
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: It was thirty two to thirty five, which is not

1169
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 3: a big drop it would sell unbelievable numbers.

1170
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: But look, the EV landscape is completely different when you're

1171
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: talking prices. I think from what they've put out for

1172
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: the price, I think it's pretty good.

1173
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: No, great car. I would probably get it. I might

1174
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: get it. I would get it over the MG four Yeah,

1175
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: I think.

1176
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: MG four you had to trick you on if you

1177
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: line them up. The X to me was a real letdown.

1178
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1179
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: I hoped so much for that, and I was like, oh,

1180
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: it's just a quick in a straight line.

1181
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 6: Doesn't go very far because it has the small battery. Yeah,

1182
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 6: quick for a brief picture.

1183
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel the road. It was such a letdown.

1184
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: Can I tell you about my week getting the I

1185
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: got a Supra Oh yes, like a corporate of it.

1186
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: Are you trying to take a piece out of my

1187
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: Cooper again?

1188
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 6: No?

1189
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Ah, anyway, Toyota Supra. So I got a Toyota

1190
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: Supra twenty twenty four, literally dressed off. He used to

1191
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: have one of those, sold it.

1192
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I fucking raved about. Oh this is amazing. Put

1193
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 3: Japanese plates on it.

1194
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: And everything and then get rid of it.

1195
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 3: Unbelievables. I think even ambassadored for the plate people.

1196
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: How embarrassing were you embarrassed? Japanese plates?

1197
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't ever that much money and just go through cars.

1198
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: I don't want this one anymore.

1199
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: Just imagine having a Japanese style plates. Did you go

1200
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: to like cose of play conventions when you have that?

1201
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: So anyway, I had the Supra.

1202
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: Stop saying that and it's Coopra and Supra.

1203
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: All right, what got fucking now?

1204
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: Now?

1205
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: So I had this car and it's literally just come

1206
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 2: off the factory floor like it had done about eight cakes. Nice,

1207
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: And they said, like the guy at the holding yard,

1208
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: the MSR or whatever it is, you know where they

1209
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: keep all these cars, He's like, Matt yep, he's as

1210
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,959
Speaker 2: rough as anything. He's actually he's like, listen, don't fuck

1211
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: this up. All right. He's the sort of guy that

1212
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: would look at my four year old and go, you

1213
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: fucking give them me a lip? Ye, Like he's that guy.

1214
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: So anyway, he's like, don't fuck this up, Like, please,

1215
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: please don't fuck this one up. I haven't fucked that

1216
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: many's but he's like, please, look, they need it for

1217
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: a photo shoot. It's a proper toyo to photo shoot.

1218
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: It's for a World Wild campaign. Please, Like the instructions are,

1219
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: don't don't funk this up, no worries. Two days later,

1220
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: I fucked this up. So the engines that you do.

1221
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: The engine light came on. I drove it. That's what

1222
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: I did. I just drove it and the engine light

1223
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: came on. And by the way, I just don't think

1224
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: it's the smartest idea to give someone like me or

1225
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: anyone in this room, really a car that's done just

1226
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 2: eight kilometers. Like you generally break these cars in properly

1227
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: before you hand them over, especially to job. Not that

1228
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 2: I'm pressed or anything, but like, especially if you're gonna

1229
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: hand it to.

1230
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: Me, you press people. How do you identify?

1231
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: What's my pronoun? I sit down for a living and

1232
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: talk into a stick. That's it.

1233
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: What do you write on your immigration form? What do

1234
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: you write on your immigration form?

1235
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 6: Paul? It depends. Some times I do journalists, sometimes I

1236
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 6: do engineers, sometimes I do entertainer. Just kidding out of it.

1237
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: If you go to China, do you do you leave

1238
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: out journalists? Absolutely?

1239
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, well really no, that depends who's asking.

1240
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, move on, No anyway, So what happened with this?

1241
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: So you stopped on the side of the road here or.

1242
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no. But what happened was the warning on

1243
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: it on the entertainment was the drive train is fucked.

1244
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: This is going to lose power. So generally, if it's

1245
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: like yeah, so when it goes into like limp mode,

1246
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: if you like, that's bad because it means it's trying

1247
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: to preserve itself. So I called them up and I'm like,

1248
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: this isn't good. And I was planning to take it

1249
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: to the Blue Mountains on the weekend and rip around.

1250
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't do this now. I can't. Like

1251
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, you could ignore it, but I wouldn't. Definitely.

1252
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1253
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: So he's like, can you bring it back and I

1254
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: can get you in a land cruise of three hundred nice?

1255
00:56:59,239 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: Am I cool?

1256
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 3: All right, that's a nice run of the mountain.

1257
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: It's okay. So this was the land cruiser gr and

1258
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: I got in and I'm like, this steering wheels a

1259
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 2: bit shiny, like it just feels very kind of used.

1260
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, I thought to myself, I bet the person

1261
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: before me was someone like Trevor Long just fucking put

1262
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: bloody bits of donut everywhere and just like there'd be

1263
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: crumbs on the.

1264
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 10: Sea seeds probably had a bit of like geers like

1265
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 10: it was really like, God, yeah, sure, so I don't.

1266
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: Know how to discalate from donuts to there.

1267
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: But anyway, well let's just say you put on how

1268
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: many donuts are you? Are you like a three donut man?

1269
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: How many can you? I wouldn't.

1270
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go less than six, donut king, I would.

1271
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: Yours the donut king. I'm happy with that title. So

1272
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,479
Speaker 2: I caught Paul and I was like, you never guess

1273
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: what I mean. I mean a land cruise of three

1274
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: hundred gr and I think it's been used. And you said, what, Gordy,

1275
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: I was in your I am in your car, in

1276
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: your old car. Well you're in the same sort of car.

1277
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: And I was like, this one has just done thirty

1278
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: seven thousand kilometers and yours was the same. Yea, And

1279
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: I've got to tell.

1280
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: You, so you had two different ones or is this

1281
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: the same time with.

1282
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 6: The same one? I reckon They shold it down, but

1283
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 6: I normally, like I know that people think this is

1284
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 6: a stupid discussion to be having, but normally with press

1285
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 6: cars so.

1286
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: Very inside baseball, but people are fascinated by many times.

1287
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 6: Look, I think most most of the time with these manufacturers,

1288
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 6: they'll sell the cars at about ten thousand k's old.

1289
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 6: And the reason they do that is you've got accelerated life.

1290
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 6: When it gets given to a new media outlet, they

1291
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 6: will do the same thing last one did, and it's

1292
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 6: just you're accelerating the degradation of this car. Some companies,

1293
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 6: and I think Toyt could even be one of them,

1294
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 6: just destroy the cars once they're done for pre production cars. So,

1295
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 6: but the strange thing here with this three hundred series,

1296
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 6: it had clearly done a lot off writing because it

1297
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 6: had scratches all down the side, all down the other side,

1298
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 6: and I tell you this didn't feel great for thirty

1299
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 6: seventh thound.

1300
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: So that accelerated life thing. Do you think it's a

1301
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: genuine look at a land Croags three hundred thirty eight

1302
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: thousand k's or is it a bit more like it's

1303
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand cos yeah, I.

1304
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 6: Think closer to one hundred thousand. And I'm hoping that

1305
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 6: anyone that's listening to this contact at the Drivers Show

1306
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 6: dot com today, you do you want a three hundred series,

1307
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 6: Let us know what it's like to live with once

1308
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 6: you've put some k's on it because this thing was creaking.

1309
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 6: The suspension felt funny, there was a vibration from the engine.

1310
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 6: I think all of these things didn't happen until Gordy

1311
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 6: picked it up.

1312
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say, to be honest, I didn't have

1313
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: those issues. There was no stretch. We probably shouldn't claim

1314
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: we had the same one. There's a good chance we

1315
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: could have take separate.

1316
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 6: Ones, but they both had over thirty thousand.

1317
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1318
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 8: You know.

1319
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: One thing that stuck out to me was I quickly

1320
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: realized the three hundred series in general, and this being

1321
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: the gr so it's up a fair bit. It's probably

1322
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: up about what fifty mil do you reckon than the standard?

1323
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: Like the suspension's different than the standard, and also it's

1324
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: got chunky at tires.

1325
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 6: I think I don't think it's fifty mil. I think

1326
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 6: it's only slightly higher bran.

1327
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: It just it just felt like it's obviously quite a

1328
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: big car, and it's the easiest big car I've ever driven.

1329
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: It's such a fucking easy drive.

1330
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: Really, But I do see a lot of them around town.

1331
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: They are the new taxi.

1332
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 6: Look.

1333
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't mind it. It was pretty good. My

1334
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: dad had one and probably put about seventy kilometers on

1335
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: it and sold it and he sold it off it.

1336
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: I can't really comment on it because what he did

1337
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: was he sold it to a company called the Night

1338
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: h Q, which is a company I now work for.

1339
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: And they're like those car giveaway things.

1340
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: You know, and don't get me started.

1341
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I won't get you started. Can you please?

1342
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: Why do you up? Because it's called money? Trevor?

1343
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 3: All right, I thought you worked in Rainy. I'm so confused.

1344
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 2: Anyway, whatever, good on men. The face, I'm the pretty

1345
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: fact I've replaced by.

1346
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 6: You know, when there's people standing at the desk, and

1347
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 6: then under the desk there's also people that's just Gordy's

1348
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 6: under the very spacious mouth.

1349
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: Wow, Jesus, look at you two. Me getting a bit

1350
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: of stuff on the side and your rush in eyes,

1351
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: your primarily aware of this. Sold it to this company

1352
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: and then they gave it away. Yeah yeah, they modified

1353
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: the ship out of it and gave it away. It's

1354
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: pretty cool.

1355
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm interested. If you do own one, let

1356
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 6: us know what it's like. And the interesting thing as

1357
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 6: well is that that platform will be or is the

1358
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 6: platform for the new Lexus cheeks and will be the

1359
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 6: new Prato as well.

1360
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: You've looked at that new Prata, haven't you. Yeah, Like

1361
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: it's it's a very different look.

1362
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 3: Great Larree hundred is a really nice evolution of the

1363
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: land Cruiser, right, But the new Prato is it's like

1364
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 3: where Key has gone. It's just it's radical.

1365
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: For radicals, where you think it's where Lexus needed to go.

1366
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: Though it definitely now like lex has had this kind

1367
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: of old man brand.

1368
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 6: Toyota I think is still a bit sort of straight. Yes,

1369
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 6: I think this car.

1370
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 3: Is very because Lexus has always had a little bit

1371
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 3: of flare on the side. They've had a few sports

1372
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: cars and different things that have something very different.

1373
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: I've had some great sports yeah.

1374
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely so look wise, but Toyota has been straight down

1375
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: the line, very consistent, and then you bring in this

1376
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: new Prato and it's, man, it's a strange looking thing.

1377
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: I like it.

1378
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 3: I like it a lot, but I think for the

1379
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: average parto owner it's vastly different and therefore kind of

1380
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 3: an interesting prospect.

1381
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 6: I think the biggest issue they're going to have is

1382
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 6: it's got to carry over two point eight liter four

1383
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 6: cylinder diesel, so it's getting mild, very mild hybrid technology,

1384
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 6: but five hundred new meters on a vehicle that is

1385
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 6: going to be heavier because it's on a much bigger

1386
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 6: platform now, I think is probably going to hold them back.

1387
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 6: So it increase the towing capacity as well. So now

1388
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 6: they've gone from three to three and a half, you're

1389
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 6: going to be towing an extra five hundred kilos in

1390
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 6: a heavier car with the same engine.

1391
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: I just think that's really through it.

1392
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, so they do have that, they are working

1393
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 6: on a hybrid. The problem they've got is though, that

1394
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 6: they can't stick a V six desel in it because

1395
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 6: you're going to cannibalize three hundred series. Can't stick a

1396
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 6: V six petrol because you get to cannibalized GX and globally.

1397
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 6: They don't have any other engine variance aside from the

1398
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 6: hybrid bro you can actually put in there. So the

1399
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 6: screw sime one. It'll be an interesting one and it'll

1400
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 6: be more expensive. I reckon ten to fifteen.

1401
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: I was going to say, it just looks like it's

1402
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 3: going to be more expensive than where Prato's about, and

1403
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 3: I think most Prato, a lot of Prato owners to generalize.

1404
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: You know, are on a cycle.

1405
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: They're on like a five year, six year, but everyone

1406
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: purchase least one a situation and they're ready for the

1407
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: new one percent and if it's ten grand more, yep,

1408
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 3: that's a big hit.

1409
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 6: And I know some people that have actually just gone

1410
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 6: ahead and renewed Prato now ahead of the new one

1411
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 6: coming because they don't want to change.

1412
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 2: They're right, they.

1413
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 6: Don't want to have the first of something new. So

1414
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 6: they're funny those guys.

1415
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: My brother waited like nearly two years for his Prato.

1416
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: He got it last Christmas, and I said to him,

1417
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 2: hold off, like there's one coming. It looks fantastic. Hold

1418
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: Off is like, nah, I'm done. I'm done with waiting.

1419
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: I said, well, put your name the way that you

1420
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: got fucked around, make sure your name is on the

1421
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: top of the list for the new one because it

1422
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: looks great. And we didn't have too many details about

1423
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: the engine and stuff like that back then, but I

1424
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: was like, it looks good and I didn't think it

1425
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: would be. I think it feels a bit pricey for

1426
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: what it is, but let's see.

1427
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 6: What they do with it.

1428
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: You're buying into.

1429
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 6: It's a bit like buying a Tesla, right, you're getting

1430
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 6: access to the supercharger network. I think when you buy

1431
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 6: a Toyota, you know that there is a dealer everywhere.

1432
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 6: So if you're going to drive regionally, something shits itself,

1433
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 6: you just go there. And I think if you're going

1434
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 6: to do a long distance drive as well around Australia,

1435
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 6: but the map thing you want to be doing it

1436
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 6: a toy Yeah.

1437
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 3: The question without noticing Paul, where are we at with

1438
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: car ordered delays? Because I had this random conversation with

1439
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: a guy at dinner the other night where at like

1440
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 3: a group dinner, like ten or fifteen people, and he

1441
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 3: was talking about he'd ordered Hyundai I twenty n ah,

1442
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 3: yes in June twenty twenty two. Whoa June twenty twenty two,

1443
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 3: And he got some contact from the deal today because

1444
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: he thought it was coming this month, got pushed out

1445
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 3: to April, and just in the course of three days

1446
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: it's now at May or June. And I'm like, well,

1447
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean his sense to me, I just feel

1448
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 3: like there's something weird there. Whether it's just going no,

1449
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 3: we'll move that guy down then, lest we'll give this guy.

1450
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 3: One I don't know is there a bit of that

1451
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: goes on.

1452
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 6: Still, but I know that I twenty and they basically

1453
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 6: a lot of the end cars had very strange production issues.

1454
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 6: They had changes in production location, so I think they're

1455
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 6: their own separate little beast. Toyota still has problems. So

1456
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 6: around midyear they reckon they're going to be down to

1457
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 6: a three to six month wait on most of their

1458
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 6: cars unless it's a special order car like a LEXISLC

1459
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 6: or something like that. But most other brands, you're seeing

1460
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 6: it all over TV now. They are advertising and advertising

1461
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 6: and advertising, and I think that is the first telltale sign.

1462
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: That the car is coming.

1463
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 6: Drive over the West Gate Bridge and you look at

1464
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 6: the holding yard. It is full of cars, and I think,

1465
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 6: what's happened with these car companies. They've had this period

1466
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 6: where they're just ordering as much as they can. Now

1467
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 6: the manufacturers are saying, hey, you have got thousands of

1468
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 6: cars coming figure out how to sell them. You don't

1469
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 6: have a choice in the matter. And it's going to

1470
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 6: complicate things next year with this absolute nonsense tax, bullshit tax,

1471
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 6: because that is going to really upset the balance. And

1472
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 6: Toyota has come out and said that they will not

1473
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 6: pay fines to other car companies to buy credits, they

1474
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 6: will just pay them to the government. Because Tesla's business

1475
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 6: model is great.

1476
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 3: Each year in the US, don't they.

1477
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 6: In the US, it's about two billion dollars a year

1478
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 6: that they earn as credits that other manufacturers buy from them.

1479
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 6: In Australia they're set to earn two hundred million dollars

1480
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 6: over the course of the year with other manufacturers buying credits.

1481
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 6: And it was funny in Germany, the factory that they

1482
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 6: built was actually mainly funded by Stilantis, who had to

1483
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 6: buy all these credits off. Tesla has paid for Tesla

1484
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 6: to have a new factory in Germany.

1485
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: So if all the car companies do what Toyota do

1486
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: and say we're going to pay the government instead of

1487
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 3: the other brands, do the other brands get nothing?

1488
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 6: I don't think so, because it's up to you. It's

1489
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 6: a perfect trading market. And the issue you've got with

1490
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 6: Tesla as well. They came out and said the other

1491
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 6: day they're leaving the FCAI, which is the sort of

1492
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 6: industry body that represents all, don't they absolutely, And they've

1493
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 6: left it because the FCAI is parroting the line that

1494
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 6: they need exemptions of certain classes of vehicles and the

1495
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 6: FCAI is very much led by Toyota and so the

1496
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 6: FCAI is trying to rebut this Tesla's doing this, and

1497
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 6: the reason they're doing it is because it was actually

1498
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 6: on the Today Show someone had fed a producer numbers

1499
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 6: and I think it was from the FCI where they

1500
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 6: claimed Model Y would be fifteen grand cheaper. Oh wow,

1501
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 6: Tesla cractic because like, hold on, you're advertising everywhere that

1502
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 6: a Model Y is going to be fifteen grand cheaper

1503
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 6: because they've assumed that Tesla's going to drop the price

1504
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 6: by fifteen grand. It's like, no, no, they do that pocket

1505
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 6: the fifteen grand because why would you? And what they're

1506
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 6: experiencing I suspect because they never come out with statements

1507
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 6: unless it's from Musk. So the Australian manager, whoever the

1508
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 6: fuck he is, has come out with a written statement

1509
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 6: that he sent to media saying they're pulling out because

1510
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 6: they must have seen a sales decline by people going

1511
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 6: well hold.

1512
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 3: On, oh, because they think the price is going to fluctuate.

1513
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 6: So Master Jan and the reason that the price is

1514
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 6: going to fluctuate for people that don't understand. This is

1515
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 6: the government is basically saying that if your average fleet

1516
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 6: is above a certain emissions level, we're going to hit

1517
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 6: you with a fee that you can either buy credits

1518
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 6: from other brands or get fined for.

1519
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: Can I just say, this whole system, looking outside in

1520
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: feels so fucking flawed because if it's all about buying credit,

1521
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: or if you can get away with buying credits and

1522
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: doing this, the whole point of it is to meet

1523
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: admissions targets exactly. Do you know what I mean?

1524
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 3: It's like environment It's like the carbon tax stuff. It's like,

1525
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 3: rather than cutting your emissions and doing good for the environment,

1526
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: just buy some credits.

1527
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll find you and we'll get money for that.

1528
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing this for emissions targets.

1529
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 6: Like the longer term, the plan is to say, well,

1530
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 6: if you want to stop getting fined, you need to

1531
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 6: bring in better stuff. But therein lies the problem. Someone

1532
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 6: like Toyota, who sells.

1533
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 3: By the way, I thought personally, when I looked at

1534
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,799
Speaker 3: it first and foremost, I thought toder would be okay

1535
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: because of the amount of hybrids they sell.

1536
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought.

1537
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 6: But it's offset by the amount of land cruise O

1538
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 6: pratos land cruises and high luxes. The problem is though

1539
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 6: that there is I don't think anyone in this world

1540
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 6: wants the world to end for climate to go bad.

1541
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 6: No one wants that. So if you're out there driving

1542
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 6: around Australia telling a caravan, you don't want the world

1543
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 6: to end. But also you don't want to be driving

1544
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 6: an electric car that's going to get one hundred k's

1545
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 6: up the road and you're going to need a charge.

1546
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 6: If you're a trade you don't have outside of that

1547
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 6: OLDV and electric uit that you can buy. So what's

1548
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 6: going at a premium.

1549
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: And doesn't it's an LDV.

1550
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 6: I mean, there's just all of these problems with the

1551
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 6: equation and they keep talking about how they want to

1552
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 6: compare it to the US. The US actually has an

1553
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 6: exemption for footprints, so the bigger the vehicle, the less

1554
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 6: it is required to have alignment with the missions. Have

1555
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 6: a lot of big VI, which is the top three

1556
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 6: best selling cars in the States, of the F series

1557
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 6: Ram and the Silverada. So I think that Australia needs

1558
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 6: to get real understand that people buy the cars they

1559
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 6: do for whatever reasons they do. Yes, you have an

1560
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 6: element of people who buy them to just stuff around in.

1561
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 6: But if you are buying it because you have no alternative,

1562
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 6: Toyota is going to pass the cost onto you. And

1563
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 6: if you're a trade, extra costs they're paying for their

1564
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 6: ut is going to go to you when they come

1565
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 6: to do something in your house.

1566
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: And also where's the choice? Like it feels so fucking

1567
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: draconian to say, you can't really buy the car you

1568
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: want if you want a big car. No, no, no,

1569
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm telling me what to do? Yeah?

1570
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 6: I come from Victoria where for two years we were told.

1571
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 3: What to do and where to go.

1572
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: People are sick of it. Hey, he's paying the price

1573
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: now you can't get into the Portzy golf club. Cut

1574
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: him some slack.

1575
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 6: I caught up with Pricey the other day and I said, mate,

1576
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 6: hold up that sorry, just pick up that name.

1577
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 2: He just drunk. I did not let him in under

1578
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: any him in.

1579
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 6: I said, don't worry, we're not letting.

1580
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: Hey. You know, when you make some terrible decisions in

1581
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: your life, I've made a few. Obviously, most of them

1582
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 2: I've asked to kindly like go through the window. For

1583
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: most of them, you had to text them to delete

1584
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: the video. G Yeah, yes, but I just don't think

1585
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: anything could quite stack up as badly as the mistake

1586
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: of buying an EV nine. And that's exactly what you're doing.

1587
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: A mistakes. O. Holy fuck me in the dick.

1588
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

1589
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 6: I actually think is that it's a fantastic looking car.

1590
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 6: But Gordy the guy that is wearing fucking glasses and

1591
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 6: can't actually see anything.

1592
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 3: Oh I know. The first thing I said when I

1593
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 3: posted about it was this is a polarizing car, no doubt,

1594
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 3: no doubt, it's polarizing, but you got it. Like my

1595
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 3: situation is this. I got three kids, the teenagers. We

1596
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 3: own a Key Carnival. It's four years old. And like

1597
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 3: I would never I didn't even think I was buying

1598
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 3: a new car this year, but I'd had the even nine.

1599
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: I had the air in the earth over like two

1600
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 3: different weeks in late January maybe, And so the wife

1601
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 3: saw it in the driver. She doesn't look at press cars,

1602
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: doesn't drive them, won't go near them, but she'd seen

1603
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 3: it in the driver. And you know, friends with Blake

1604
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 3: with a Prido come around, looked at it, and you know,

1605
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: people talk about the cars and driveway. And then I

1606
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: get a call from the dude that does my fine

1607
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 3: and it goes the carnival's up and I went, what

1608
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 3: do you mean? Like, what do you mean up? He goes,

1609
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: the lease is finished? You got to pay it out

1610
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: or what.

1611
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 6: Are you going to do?

1612
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: I went, oh shit, I had no idea.

1613
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 3: Get home, I say to the wife, we've got to

1614
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: get a new Carnival. Okay, cool cool. I go to

1615
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: a key deal with in my head I want to

1616
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,839
Speaker 3: trade it in. I want to get a new Carnival.

1617
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: Like I'm there to fucking buy and this is the

1618
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 3: same fucking dealership that I tried to buy the carnival

1619
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 3: from originally but wouldn't give me a quote. Irrelevant. So

1620
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 3: I walk in. I go to this bike mate, I

1621
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 3: want to buy a new Carnival twelve month wait mate,

1622
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 3: I went on a carnival.

1623
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 2: He goes, yep.

1624
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: I went okay, and that was it? Like I'm like,

1625
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 3: is that it? And he goes. I said, can I

1626
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,759
Speaker 3: get a value on mine? Like a trade in value?

1627
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: He goes, you know he does. He opens up a

1628
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 3: fucking website and looks through like carsa like a red

1629
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: book and I'm like, mate, I could do this at hard.

1630
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 3: And here's a thing, there's two even nines in the

1631
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 3: show two in the show room. He doesn't even think

1632
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 3: to say, oh, you've got a family, like, doesn't even

1633
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 3: try to sell me a car. Right, So I have

1634
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 3: this conversation with Fennick on our podcast, just just ranting

1635
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 3: and raving. Bloke emails me, goes, mate, just saying, you know,

1636
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: I work for such and such. Happy to help you

1637
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 3: out if you do decide to go down there. No,

1638
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 3: And so I said, mate, happy to have a look

1639
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 3: at the price. Because then I got back to the

1640
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 3: wife and she goes, should we be getting a carnival

1641
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 3: or should we get that environmental thing. I was pretty

1642
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 3: pretty forward thinking on the on the environmental front. We're

1643
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 3: recycling every fucking thing in the house. We've got bins

1644
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 3: for everything. And I went, that's basically green light from

1645
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 3: my wife by the EV nine right. So I work

1646
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 3: real hard on the numbers. I get it down to

1647
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 3: basically the same price because the carnivals are actually a

1648
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 3: pretty good trade right now. So I do it over

1649
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 3: five years instead of four or whatever, and I get

1650
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 3: down to the same price. And mate, I've fucking I've

1651
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 3: got my deposit down on even nine and it arrives

1652
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 3: this week, Like it happened real quick.

1653
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: What colour did you get?

1654
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 3: Black? Okay, because we've got black black, Carnival black. Yeah,

1655
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 3: it was on a boat. There may have been a

1656
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 3: phone call, mate, but yeah it was.

1657
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 2: It was on us. Yeah, I am no, who are

1658
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: you travel along?

1659
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: I mean someone else got a phone call that said

1660
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: your EV nine Earth is delayed by two months. But

1661
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 3: mine arrived and I'm picking up on Thursday. And so

1662
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 3: I did, like I had a bit of a panic

1663
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 3: after kind of of signing paperwork and stuff, being likeuck,

1664
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 3: have I done the right thing here? And it is

1665
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 3: polarizing to look at. But I got another press car

1666
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 3: and I told her why she has to drive it

1667
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 3: because she just went up to the park and back

1668
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 3: and she she was she never driven, like she hasn't

1669
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 3: driven the Coop ye, right, she's never driven it. So

1670
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 3: she thought it was weird and heavy, but it was fine.

1671
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 3: And then I got one a couple of weeks ago

1672
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 3: to drive for the last time to my mum's place,

1673
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: which is a six hour drive. Right, So I thought,

1674
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 3: I've got my got family in the country and you

1675
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 3: charge that up and you took for I had a

1676
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: great bin, I had a great drive. I loved it

1677
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 3: on the windy bits, on the stretches, every it was

1678
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 3: just great. So I went, I'm really happy. This is

1679
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: the car man. It's a great car. It really is.

1680
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 3: It's expensive.

1681
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: Here's it.

1682
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 3: Look it's a great car.

1683
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: It is. It is really pulverizing right to look at

1684
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: your right to me, I was like, that is and

1685
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: I and this isn't adyss with ka. I fucking love

1686
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: ke I had a stinger. I love Keay is great.

1687
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: I love it care But it was just I looked

1688
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: at this and I thought, not a great looking car.

1689
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: But my main thing was, it's such a specific audience

1690
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: that would buy this one. An EV A big EV

1691
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: is it.

1692
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 3: Seven seats, seven.

1693
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: Seat EV roughly one hundred and ten thousand dollars. Not

1694
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 2: a cheap car. So you're rolling around in quite a

1695
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: luxurious beat. It's a business, it's along, it is, but

1696
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: support I thought to myself, there's such a specific audience

1697
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: with this, and you are that.

1698
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,879
Speaker 3: No, I don't expect they're going to sell in huge numbers,

1699
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 3: but I don't think they do either. I think this

1700
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 3: is a This is a flagship vehicle for them. It's

1701
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 3: a vehicle that's like, let's be real, this is the

1702
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 3: biggest electric car you can buy in Australia. And if

1703
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 3: I was in America, I'd be buying a Rivian like

1704
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 3: I'd be buying something like that because I think it's

1705
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: awesome to have that. It's little for my liking. But see,

1706
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 3: in a look sense, I still think the Model Why

1707
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: is the fucking ugliest cart on the road today. And

1708
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 3: if I see another fucking white one, like, it's just

1709
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: everywhere right, and it's you know, it's worse.

1710
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: Now.

1711
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 3: This is the the worst thing about having a car

1712
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 3: that changes. It's going to look even worse when they

1713
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 3: bring up the update later this year because it's not

1714
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 3: the new test Model three looks fucking beautiful compete to

1715
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 3: the old one. Imagine how good the Why is gonna

1716
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 3: look at all these thousands of people got the Model

1717
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 3: Y's I got to say.

1718
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: That, No wonder people wrap those though, you know they

1719
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 2: come in such a limited amount.

1720
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 3: It is weird how many people do that, isn't it.

1721
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 3: I've got one near us. It's like a rainbow, you know,

1722
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 3: that oil slick style that looks different.

1723
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 6: In Tears Model three. Well, I was actually going to say,

1724
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 6: I like the EV nine. We were just discussing off

1725
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 6: air that I thought the GC line was just a

1726
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 6: bit much. The fucking digital mirrors.

1727
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 3: I cannot stand driving in Genesis with them now. And

1728
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 3: it's like, why can't they just put the screens, yes,

1729
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 3: up where you would normally look at a mirror.

1730
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 2: Did you have you got remotely in use to those?

1731
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: Because I found by the end of it, I was like,

1732
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: I get it. They kind of like the mirrors do.

1733
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: Tech wise, they do some pretty incredible more and all that.

1734
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it too, right, But I still,

1735
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: honestly for a mirror, it.

1736
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 3: Doesn't I don't think no, But I don't think it's

1737
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 3: anything wrong with the technology.

1738
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: I think it's the placement of the screens.

1739
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,480
Speaker 3: Howt is the same when you look out the windows,

1740
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 3: like I shouldn't be able to see the fucking camera.

1741
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 3: I should exactly put the screen up there so it's

1742
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 3: covering it just a little bit of the window.

1743
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 2: It's no sense, right, the fact that you can see

1744
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 2: the camera.

1745
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 6: They've done it like, oh, we don't want to block

1746
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 6: the camera.

1747
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: It's like put the screen up to see.

1748
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't like audio. I don't like digital review mirrors either.

1749
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 6: You know what, they come in handy if you've got

1750
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 6: a seven seater because yeah, you can see through seven seats,

1751
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 6: or a car that has a tiny fucking rear window.

1752
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 2: Those big black cars. If you get transported to the

1753
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: airport in you know the bit.

1754
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're young and healthy, your eyes are good.

1755
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: So actually I don't think that my because I wear

1756
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 3: glasses for reading, I actually don't think I can focus

1757
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 3: properly on the digit review mirror. When when you look

1758
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 3: at the mirror weirdly, you are focusing in the distance.

1759
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 6: That's yeah.

1760
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 3: But when the mirror is here and it's a screen.

1761
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 6: You're focusing on that, I don't think it as well.

1762
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,440
Speaker 6: But my issue with those digital side mirrors is perspective

1763
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 6: because if you're parking, like where I do, up against

1764
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 6: a wall, I use my head to move around to

1765
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 6: get different angles on the mirror. When you do that

1766
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 6: on a digital side mirror angles it doesn't move at all.

1767
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 3: Now you think, aren't they a little bit more kind

1768
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 3: of wide angle?

1769
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: Isn't there a bit more.

1770
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 6: You just yeah, in low light especially, you just don't

1771
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 6: know what yeah, low light is bad. Yeah, I think

1772
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 6: Evan one's great. And you do you think, I'm ben sive.

1773
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 6: Do you think, like seriously, the one you've gone for

1774
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 6: is the best, because to me, the top speck was

1775
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 6: just a bit much. It doesn't have much.

1776
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 3: Range from the air, just doesn't have enough range for me.

1777
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 6: Where you've landed is perfect. And the ride's better as well, Like,

1778
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 6: it is actually quite nice, and.

1779
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: The fact that it doesn't have while to have a

1780
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 3: car play is the most disgraceful thing in history given

1781
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 3: in the.

1782
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 2: US it does.

1783
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 6: But you know what the fuck's going from? That will

1784
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 6: be a software update. Well, we just tested the ConA Electric.

1785
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 6: It actually came and it's got the same same yainment

1786
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 6: system versions and stuff. It actually came with a software

1787
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 6: update that added wireless car play while we had the car.

1788
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: They're starting really yeah, da are starting to roll out really.

1789
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 6: The same Yeah, entertainment system. Firmware supports it. It's just

1790
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 6: like sorry, the hardware supports of the firm where they

1791
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 6: need right. Yes, No, I think it's I think it's

1792
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 6: a good choice. A question just on the podcast as well,

1793
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 6: your new podcast, tell us first the name of it,

1794
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 6: so in anyone with.

1795
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 3: Two bogs talking electric cars, really really vague thinking. But

1796
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 3: we've been doing two bugs talking text Stephen Fennick and

1797
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: I for thirteen years. And so when we're going to

1798
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 3: do EV's because he's got one, I've got one.

1799
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: We talk about him.

1800
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 3: All the time, we may as well, right, Bens Right,

1801
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 3: he's in the Equeq. He owned a model S for

1802
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: Yes for five years and then they stopped making them

1803
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 3: here for left right hand dright, so he just went

1804
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 3: fuck you and brought the Mercedes. I've got the Cooper

1805
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 3: and so we started that. So yeah, it's just yeah,

1806
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 3: it's just we're trying to go to the lowest common

1807
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 3: denomina in terms of it's not for it's not really

1808
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 3: for ev owner, it's for people that want to know more,

1809
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 3: want to learn more, want to understand more. You know,

1810
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 3: you can kind of jump in and hear stuff.

1811
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: That's a smart idea because I think that that's this

1812
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 2: is now the time to do it. People are starting

1813
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: to really like pricked their heads out.

1814
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 3: I don't think we're late. I think we're I think

1815
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: we're at the right point. I think it's a tipping

1816
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 3: point for people to go. I know, i'd like We

1817
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,839
Speaker 3: talked last week to a bloke from the Strata Committee

1818
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 3: strata owners about EV's ownership. He had a really positive

1819
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 3: take on EV's and fire safety. I'm like, okay, so

1820
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: that was interesting. So now I'm going to get fire

1821
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 3: department on and go what can you tell me your

1822
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 3: side of the story, because I think it's important to

1823
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 3: hear the whole argument about stuff. Plus, I like Phenick

1824
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 3: doesn't leave the city. It was barely drives over the

1825
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 3: fucking bridge to come to my studio to do the show.

1826
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 3: But I leave the city. I've done a lot of

1827
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 3: driving and charging. I took the ford E Transit van

1828
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 3: to my mum's at Walker. It was the fucking hardest

1829
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 3: thing I've ever done because on highway it's the least

1830
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 3: efficient highway drive and EV I've ever seen it, so

1831
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 3: thirty per hundred and man fuck, I was so nervous

1832
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 3: about making it there. And I was at scone at

1833
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 3: the one n I may fifty kler what charger and

1834
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 3: I had to go to one hundred. I had to

1835
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 3: go to at least ninety two to get enough range

1836
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 3: to get to Tamworth. Poor bloke in a B turns

1837
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 3: up well five minutes and I'm like, mate, I'm going

1838
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: to be here in chat for a fucking hour.

1839
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: Buddy good.

1840
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 6: One was half of it sticking out as well, because

1841
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 6: it's got the charging thing at the front.

1842
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 2: Now that's the other thing I didn't get.

1843
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 6: It's like it's a big workman. And then if you

1844
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,879
Speaker 6: go to like a shopping center car park, you're blocking

1845
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 6: half the rock.

1846
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: Because the thing is sticking in there.

1847
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 6: But one topic, actually two topics. We rolled out electric

1848
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 6: vehicle charging in our old building. I was the OC

1849
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 6: manager there and it was expensive, and funnily enough, one

1850
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 6: of the guys that was fucking jumping up and down

1851
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 6: about this constantly while we were getting a consultant to

1852
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 6: work on the plans and everything didn't end up fucking

1853
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 6: getting it, even though he bought a Tesla and didn't

1854
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 6: think about charging until he got at home. We spent

1855
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 6: a year installing all this stuff, and he didn't end

1856
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,919
Speaker 6: up putting in because he thought it was too expensive.

1857
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, that's too much, I can get it.

1858
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 6: Installed for this. I said, hold on, fucking listen to me.

1859
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 6: I'm not I don't need an electrician to come and

1860
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 6: plug it up for you. We have a load manager

1861
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 6: so that when it gets to summer and there's fucking

1862
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 6: fifty people trying to charge their car, that it can

1863
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 6: load shad. So we actually have electricity, yes, and we

1864
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 6: don't need you the selfish guy who wants to just plug.

1865
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 3: Up through your killer one.

1866
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 6: Imagine if there're fifty of you selfish guys, we wouldn't

1867
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 6: have any electricity. So it's it's those types of people

1868
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 6: who are tight asses that don't want to then spend

1869
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 6: because it is more expensive than doing it at home.

1870
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 3: You can't just put two grand war box on. You've

1871
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: got to do like you'd be that guy that we saying.

1872
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be that guy. No, it's a fair point.

1873
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 2: Like if he doesn't really want to say the difference

1874
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 2: is the plug in sort of mount that you've got

1875
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: to get. Say he's got to spend like four grand.

1876
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 2: I don't know too much about the setup, but say

1877
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: he's going to spend four grand as opposed to what

1878
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: do you have to pay this strata people.

1879
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 6: Look, I'll find the number. But it was it was

1880
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 6: not four grand. It was like, let's call it eighteen

1881
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 6: hundred bucks. And he thought he could get it for

1882
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 6: five hundred so he's winging a.

1883
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: Third of Yeah.

1884
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 3: We we talked again before we came on air about

1885
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 3: the kind of community that is EV owners, especially on Facebook,

1886
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: and I had to leave a couple of book groups

1887
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 3: because I saw too many people sending links to like

1888
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 3: Alley Express and all this to buy fucking charges and shits.

1889
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking that is not author that is not

1890
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 3: regulated in Australia. That's the ship that's going to bring

1891
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,839
Speaker 3: this whole industry down is dodgy chargers. And the problem

1892
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 3: is not enough cars come with cables. Isn't it weird

1893
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 3: that you buy an EV when Hooper came with the

1894
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 3: public charging style you know, Type two to Type two

1895
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 3: not we not a home granny charger. The key I

1896
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 3: think comes with a granny charger, which I think all

1897
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 3: cars should come with, plug it in at home into

1898
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 3: a PowerPoint. But you get people who buy a you know,

1899
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 3: a charger at home. I don't want to say war

1900
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,799
Speaker 3: Box because that's brand. That's what I've got. The awesome

1901
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 3: They buy charger, they get installed at home and it

1902
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have a cable on it, so you buy then

1903
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 3: a cable. Now, the problem is if they buy a

1904
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 3: cheap shit cable that isn't rated for the for the

1905
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 3: power they're outputting. That is going to be the weak

1906
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 3: link in the chain. It's not the carvet catchers fight,

1907
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 3: it's it's barely the electricity in the home. It's the

1908
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 3: charger or the fucking cable.

1909
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, you tell someone who's pretty sort

1910
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 2: of set in their ways and an EV is a

1911
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: big thing for them, Like I look at my old

1912
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 2: man and he was like talking about getting a Model three.

1913
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 2: At one point I was like, Eh, don't do it,

1914
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: don't do it, don't do it. But I guarantee he'd

1915
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: be this sort of person that'd be like, ah, look,

1916
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: I'll just fucking go on the internet without telling anyone

1917
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: to buy something off Amazon.

1918
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 3: You spent like sixty grand on a car, and then

1919
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 3: you go on that Like I say, I paid eighteen

1920
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 3: hundred bucks for my war box. I think you get

1921
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 3: him a bit cheaper. But my mine's got no Wi

1922
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 3: Fi and all that kind of cool control, And I

1923
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: know I could have got something. I think Tesla had

1924
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: him for like seventy fifty or something. Right, that's the

1925
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 3: minimum I spend. If you're spending lesson the Tesla charger,

1926
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on?

1927
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 6: And is it doing it? It's like and you know

1928
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 6: the other thing as well, that a topic for you

1929
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 6: your podcast, which I'm about to come up to now,

1930
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 6: is what happens at the end of a novated least

1931
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 6: because our model, why we got that on a novated

1932
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 6: lease to take advantage of the FBT exemption. Right, my

1933
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 6: two years is coming up in August, and I've got

1934
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 6: the balloon payment of forty three and currently the cars

1935
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 6: are listed second.

1936
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 2: Hand trade money for about fifty five.

1937
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 6: So at the moment, great, but what's going to happen

1938
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 6: year three when you've got everyone who went for a

1939
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 6: three year at least instead of two and the resale

1940
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 6: values of these teslas are crashing at the moment.

1941
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 2: The international stuff or because so many were.

1942
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 6: Born and a lot were used for Uber for all

1943
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 6: this sort of stuff, so they're all just ditching them.

1944
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 2: The battery, shape, degeneration and all that.

1945
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 6: And also on top of that, you've got when you

1946
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 6: take advantage of the FBT exemption, you've already saved X

1947
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 6: thousand dollars. You haven't paid GST upfront either, so you're

1948
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 6: going to dump it for whatever the balloon is and

1949
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 6: the balloon is less than market value. So you're going

1950
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 6: to see in at the two year mark, which I'm

1951
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 6: at in August, and at the three year mark the

1952
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 6: following year, which is when they first dropped Model Y,

1953
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 6: you're going to see the prices of these drops. So

1954
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 6: I'd be curious to know for anyone else that's in

1955
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 6: that situation what they're doing, whether they just trade it

1956
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 6: in for another one and keep the cycle going, and

1957
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 6: if they do what happens with the secondhand one. Do

1958
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 6: they just for a cheap amount and then you bring

1959
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 6: the price of everyone who didn't get the FBT except

1960
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 6: Novade at least set up.

1961
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: So do you when the government regulation thing to him

1962
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 3: it earlier came on about a month or two ago,

1963
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 3: Hadley rang me and want to be on here to

1964
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 3: talk to try and explain it to people, right yep,

1965
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 3: in Layman's terms. And he's pretty relaxed with me and

1966
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 3: doesn't try and push things too hard.

1967
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 2: So I was.

1968
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 3: I had him on board broadly the ev train, right,

1969
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 3: which is a big milestone, and he was like, yes,

1970
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 3: but what about the battery. So now I want to

1971
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 3: ask you this because I thought about it. I thought

1972
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 3: in five years from now, you're going to go to

1973
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 3: car sales. You're going to look at cars, and right

1974
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 3: now you look at a Keyer Carnival twenty twenty model

1975
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 3: and it's got one hundred thousand k's or forty thousand

1976
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: k's or you know, that's pretty much your measure of

1977
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 3: the difference. Do you think we'll get to a point

1978
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 3: where you list a car with battery health? Yeah, battery

1979
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 3: health like maximum range.

1980
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,839
Speaker 2: People already you go into marketplace or something, people already

1981
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: take photos of, say if they're selling a Tesla, already

1982
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: take photos of the battery health stuff on the streets,

1983
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 2: because I think that's the measure uptop as well.

1984
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 3: You know they'll do that because surely the measure of

1985
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 3: one Tesla's value, one electric cars value versus another one

1986
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 3: of the exact same age and condition is how good

1987
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 3: is the battery? So essentially what is the remaining range?

1988
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 3: Because that that's going to be the big difference between

1989
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 3: two cars, isn't it?

1990
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 6: And that's going to be an industry as well. We

1991
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 6: met this company at where was it, I think it

1992
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 6: was at the Munich Motor Show, and they were a

1993
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 6: startup Silicon Valley startup and they basically were selling this

1994
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 6: technology to car companies to be able to do remote

1995
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 6: field diagnoses of their vehicles batteries, but very in depth.

1996
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 6: I think that is going to be the next big

1997
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 6: industry where you can get an OBD portal or an

1998
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 6: Apple or something that will allow you to diagnose a

1999
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 6: battery and test sell integrity so that when you sell

2000
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 6: a car, you can have a certified.

2001
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 10: Like the old days, you get there to come along

2002
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 10: and do a check of the car, say like dial

2003
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 10: in and kind of like cheat the system like the

2004
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 10: old days when they'd like wind the.

2005
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 6: I would want that because there is a big difference

2006
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 6: between a car that is constantly DC fast charged and

2007
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 6: a car that is slow charged. Yes, and there's also

2008
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 6: a difference between a sort of a typical lithium ion

2009
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:09,799
Speaker 6: battery and an LFP battery.

2010
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 3: So someone who bothered to put the eighty percent limit

2011
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 3: on who didn't and all those kind of things. If

2012
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 3: I was someone who had really good financial backing on

2013
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: my website, I'd be launching like an ev car sales,

2014
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 3: you know, with a different name obviously, because you don't

2015
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 3: want legal weathers, but no genuine beam sh raise it

2016
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 3: with our boards because I think that. I think we've

2017
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 3: got a trading post style marketplaces happen now. But that's

2018
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 3: old school, right. The new school is going to be

2019
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 3: a people just searching for an EV, especially with the

2020
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 3: flood of cars that are going to hit the marketers

2021
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 3: you've identified and make it for the buyer. So you

2022
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 3: can't list your car unless you've shown evidence of its

2023
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 3: current range at eighty or one hundred percent, you know,

2024
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 3: those kind of things, so that you're really showing the

2025
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 3: value of the core technology of the car, not the

2026
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 3: fact that it's shiny and you've looked after the seats.

2027
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 3: What is the drive train of this car?

2028
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 6: Woractly? Yeah, it's it's really fascinating. And I think I

2029
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 6: just tested the Toyle to BZ four X.

2030
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: What the fuck is with that name? It's it is

2031
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: a stupid name. It's like it's been named after one

2032
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: of Elon Musk's kids. That's right, the.

2033
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 3: One is actually funny from you, very good.

2034
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 6: But yeah, that that car is I think a car

2035
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 6: that's misunderstood by a lot of people.

2036
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 3: A lot of people are.

2037
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 6: Complaining about how shit is it is as an EV

2038
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 6: and that sort of stuff. But to me, that is

2039
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 6: a car that if you drive a camera right now,

2040
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 6: you can go drive that and it's the same. It's

2041
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 6: got buttons for everything. Everything is foreign and weird. There's

2042
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 6: no weird ship you have to do. It just drives.

2043
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 3: That's the EV owner hatred thing. It's like Tesla owners

2044
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 3: who are like, what do you need buttons for?

2045
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 2: Mate?

2046
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 3: I love reaching, Like in the EV nine, I know

2047
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 3: that there's within my reach. There's a little toggle that

2048
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 3: I go up for warmer, down for cool, like I

2049
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 3: just want that.

2050
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: People same movements to your wife.

2051
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 3: Some people after Like you get in a Toyota, you

2052
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 3: want it to be to Let's be real Toyota owners,

2053
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 3: our owners. They're so unlikely to buy something else we've

2054
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 3: talked I think I've talked about with you guys before.

2055
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 3: They are so unlikely to buy from a Corolla to

2056
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 3: an I thirty, despite the fact that they're better cars.

2057
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 6: Probably it's a toil.

2058
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 3: If they want to be an EV that's probably the

2059
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 3: car to gain.

2060
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon.

2061
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 6: They will actually sold quite a few of them, so

2062
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 6: I'll be carefus see how it goes.

2063
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

2064
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 6: The fucking air conditioner was amazing. We had three hot

2065
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 6: days in Melbourne, and every ev I get into, the

2066
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 6: air conditioner leaves you sweating, not sweating, but just not

2067
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 6: super comfortable, right, especially a Tesla with a fucking glass roof, like.

2068
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 2: Itating, I saw you bring something like that up before

2069
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: I finally someone gets it, those glass roos thing.

2070
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 6: I was freezing and it was like forty degrees outside.

2071
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 6: The air conditioning is like straight out of a highlux

2072
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 6: It is fantastic.

2073
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 2: What's your number?

2074
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 6: Well, in a normal car, it's twenty two. In this

2075
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 6: it was twenty three because it was at twenty two.

2076
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 6: I was actually getting.

2077
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 2: Like twenty three. Man, he got a bit of a showed.

2078
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 2: People walk into my studio and it's literally a fridge,

2079
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 2: like I keep that at yeah, unlike this is like

2080
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 2: a bloody Croatian sauna.

2081
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 3: That's because they turned their conditioning off in this building.

2082
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 2: When do you know what? I noticed that there is

2083
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 2: actually an air cord something. I was just really not

2084
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 2: fun doing recycling from the fan of the hard drive.

2085
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, my studio, I keep it like nineteen degrees.

2086
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,799
Speaker 2: Like you walk in there, it is a proper fridge.

2087
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, how can you be in here for six hours?

2088
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 2: This is this is how it's got to.

2089
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 3: Be your way of deterring people from coming in as.

2090
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 2: Me fresh like a piece of old food speaking which hanging.

2091
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 3: In the window like a Christmas.

2092
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 2: Fat on this slice of pizza? Would you travel? I

2093
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 2: need it warmed up.

2094
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 3: It won't be warm'll be sloppy.

2095
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 2: That's for sure. Does anyone listen to this? This is

2096
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: a cheesy crust.

2097
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:47,759
Speaker 3: Had a sponsor.

2098
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 2: By the way, how's your manscape going? Have you used?

2099
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 3: So?

2100
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 6: We had a Kadogan on the show again and.

2101
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 3: Did you hammer him for the manscape stuff?

2102
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 6: We gifted him the merch last time and he returned

2103
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 6: the favor and gifted us some manscaping products. So my

2104
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 6: bask at work, I have balled the odorantup, palls on

2105
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 6: the ball the odorant?

2106
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 3: Is that a real thing? That man has worked out

2107
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,520
Speaker 3: how to nail a YouTube clickbait?

2108
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 6: But it's it's he actually said, he knows his audience.

2109
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,839
Speaker 6: That's why he has bet roll of women frolicking around.

2110
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 3: He knows just hit the hit the hit the ev stuff.

2111
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 3: He knows they hate it, so bring it on.

2112
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 2: He is really just what are you doing?

2113
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to pull them out?

2114
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,440
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Gordie?

2115
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 3: That's disgusting. Now he's getting his camera, he's going to

2116
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 3: take photos of it. Can you this bloke, this fokes

2117
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 3: is in professional radio, mate, But how will he edit

2118
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 3: this out? Or is this staying in the show. I

2119
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 3: don't think he will. I'm going to tell you right now, Paul,

2120
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to edit this out. All right,

2121
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, can you it's just secretly DM, because Pauly,

2122
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 3: sorry Gord, he probably won't even listen to the show

2123
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 3: top and tail it and it out so secretly DM,

2124
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 3: Paul Marrick travelong and let us know that he let

2125
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 3: this left this rubbish in.

2126
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:13,679
Speaker 6: That's it.

2127
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 3: It also helps us understand you're listening, because otherwise I'm

2128
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:17,839
Speaker 3: not even sure these bokes have listeners.

2129
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2130
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 3: I don't know why you do it.

2131
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 6: I don't think we do it.

2132
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 3: Honest he mentioned do you have a sponsor or?

2133
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 8: What?

2134
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 3: No?

2135
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 2: God?

2136
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 9: No?

2137
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 2: Okay, well you got to work on your money on this.

2138
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 3: Ah see that's the problem. And that's what that's where

2139
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 3: Fennick and I had a problem. We started the private feed,

2140
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 3: which just us talking shit and swearing and everything, and

2141
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 3: I would never try and attach a sponsor. That because

2142
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 3: I don't want someone saying you can do something right.

2143
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 3: But I would never launch a podcast without a.

2144
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: Sponsor such a thing. It's you do it for the

2145
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 2: love pretty much.

2146
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 6: I mean, if this, if we had to hire the

2147
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 6: studio and everything makes sense, but you know, it is

2148
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 6: what it is. So where do you have a studio

2149
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 6: set up at work?

2150
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2151
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 3: So in the e FGM office upstairs of now pretty

2152
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 3: much's got much with three zone. It's a desks desk

2153
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 3: for me to work at, and I record the FtM

2154
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 3: podcast just at my desk, and then the lounge room

2155
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 3: which is the Today show backdrop, and then the corner

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Speaker 3: is like this, it's an acoustic area and with three

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01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: cameras for a video podcasting, yeah, because may we do it?

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01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 3: Thirteen years we never did video because I didn't want

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01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 3: to fucking edit it. But then AI editing came along

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01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 3: and I could just drop three tracks in actually boom,

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01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 3: yeah mate, So I dropped three tracks my camera, Steven's

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01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 3: camera too shot and then the audio sync it up

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01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 3: and then just go top and tail and then click

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01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 3: a button and on a good Mac one and a

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01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 3: half minutes later, a one hour show. He's edited multiicam.

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01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 3: So when I'm talking, it's on me, when he's talking,

2167
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 3: it's on him.

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Speaker 2: It's brilliant.

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01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, like I would never plug in or just

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Speaker 3: plug in for premiere. Thanks for joining us. Don't want

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01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 3: to shave them?

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01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 2: Why get them out? This is by the way, this

2173
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 2: is yours. I neve already got one, but you get

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01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 2: another one.

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01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 3: I can I just tell you really, I want to

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01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,799
Speaker 3: cry right now. I broke Look, I broke mine. Oh

2177
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 3: so I didn't want.

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01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 2: To out of rage.

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01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 3: Actually was.

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01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 2: It was just the.

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01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 3: Closest thing on my desk and I threw it. You're

2182
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 3: not going to I'm absolutely not gonna.

2183
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 2: Lost because your wife said no to the.

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01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 3: You don't want to know how close to the true

2185
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 3: that story is. But it's funny because it's still sitting

2186
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 3: on my desk. But I've put it together again because

2187
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 3: my daughter's like, why have you got a broken cup?

2188
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, because I feel really bad that I broke.

2189
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 3: This is the nicest bumper stickers. You know where I'm

2190
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 3: going to put that? Not on my bumper.

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01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 2: You're not going to put it on the on the board.

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01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 3: No, really no, that's not going to have them there.

2193
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 3: If you want No, probably not. Actually no, sorry, I

2194
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 3: just realized, Oh no, I could cut it this, it's

2195
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 3: just Paul.

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01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 6: Do you know what?

2197
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 2: Do you know what? I actually Paul?

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01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 3: It actually works if he ever needed to, it just

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01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 3: works fine, Paul. Probably we could probably photoo the Gordy.

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01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 2: Do you know what? Paul sent me a challenge right

2201
01:35:56,520 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 2: before you got in here was to stick one of

2202
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 2: those on your coopra born And I've just got out

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01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 2: to do that, and now I realized a prend genesis

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01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 2: GV sixty, So I stuck on it. Anyway. The people, yeah,

2205
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 2: they love me, they do. They genuinely listen to this podcast.

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01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 3: Bill he Nikey. Sorry about the sticker and Pete in

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01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 3: the garage. I'll pull the sticker off.

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01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 2: No, don't they love it. Actually, they were hitting me

2209
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 2: up for merch.

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01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 3: Should put some in the car.

2211
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get them. I'll give them some merch too.

2212
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 3: You know what you meant to do with merch? You

2213
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 3: meant to sell it.

2214
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 2: You know, we got we wanted to give it to people,

2215
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 2: and then I realized it it's actually bloody expensive.

2216
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 3: It's really hard to send it.

2217
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 2: It's actually really expensive to send it to Pete that's.

2218
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 3: Why I gave you bloke umbrellas that time, because it's

2219
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 3: possible to sell it.

2220
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 2: That's on my post by the way, just on that.

2221
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 2: It is genuinely on my to do list this weekend.

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01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: Guaranteed it's getting sent out, so so it is. People

2223
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 2: actually will I think we should eventually sell stuff, but

2224
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: we'll get to it this We might.

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01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 6: Just come for seventy nine to ninety five plus eighty

2226
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 6: six dollars postage.

2227
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 2: It's so bloody expensive to post ship. But I've got

2228
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 2: a one on it. So it's going to be done,

2229
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 2: and it will be done this weekend.

2230
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 3: That's a one year old promise. It feels like it's

2231
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 3: a really low it took.

2232
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 2: It took a while for the for the great people

2233
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 2: of Machines Plus to get as the merge they were

2234
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 2: moving factories. Anyway, great people. It's next on the list.

2235
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 2: Apple and Tesla.

2236
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so again we should stop discussing stuff off fair,

2237
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 6: but we were discussing off air about.

2238
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 3: If you stopped eating.

2239
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, Gordy eating us when I was Jesus.

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01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 6: So I read in the Afar this morning that Apple

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01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 6: and Tesla's share prices have taken a hit after they

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01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 6: announce basically their results in China, both respectively getting boned

2243
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 6: by Chinese public and Chinese government making certain requests of

2244
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 6: citizens to switch funds.

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01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 3: Chinese citizen follow their requestion too pretty strictly.

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01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 6: So I'll get to Tesla in a second. Tell me

2247
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 6: with phones. So I use an iPhone, have used one forrages,

2248
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 6: used an Android for a little while, didn't love it.

2249
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 2: And the Google phones are great phones. The Google Androids

2250
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:15,759
Speaker 2: are fantastic phone.

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01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 6: Of the pigs just Google right. So now what's happening

2252
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 6: in China is they've been told, certainly for governments, that

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01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 6: you can't have iPhones. And there was a quote from

2254
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 6: one person who didn't want to be sort of directly named,

2255
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 6: that said, basically, they came to the office and said,

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01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 6: you've got two weeks to get rid of your iPhones.

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01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 6: You're switching to Huawei's. Two weeks later, they came with

2258
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 6: a box and anyone that hadn't gotten rid of their

2259
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 6: iPhones was asked to put it in the box. Were

2260
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 6: getting twenty percent off. So they're all excited because it's

2261
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 6: a So anyway, the hui Wi they're getting is like

2262
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 6: some high end new thing with some fancy chipset where Yeah,

2263
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 6: ironically they were a lot of the people that were

2264
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 6: quoted in this story were concerned about Apple's spywear.

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01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 3: Like if you think about the propaganda that exists in

2266
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 3: Australia over China and Huawei, And for full clarity, I

2267
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 3: have no problem with Whawei. There's no evidence they have

2268
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 3: done anything, so I think a lot of it is propaganda.

2269
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 2: But anyway, so on that, I always wanted that myself.

2270
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 3: Huawei, we're not allowed to build the five gene networks.

2271
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 3: Who do you think built the four g networks for

2272
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 3: Optus and votefone? Fucking we're still using. If they wanted

2273
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 3: to spy, they would have been fucking spying already.

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01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 6: And that's my Other points to that as well, is

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01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 6: that you can open up at Huawei phone, take every

2276
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 6: single bit apart and examine it to see if it

2277
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 6: has anything. It would have been easy to do by now.

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01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Huawei has no presence outside of China. They've

2279
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 3: got a sub brand called Honor, which does do pretty

2280
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 3: well in the US weirdly and Europe. But mate, those

2281
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 3: companies are so big that they can churn out enough

2282
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 3: phones for everyone there, right, so look, Apple is seen

2283
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 3: by Chinese in the same way as the scene here.

2284
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 3: It's this prestige thing, it's this better thing to have.

2285
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 3: But the fact is that you can do better than

2286
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 3: Apple with just a five hundred bucks. You don't really

2287
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 3: need to buy an iPhone. You could just get used

2288
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 3: to her bloody a cheap android phone. Generally belief stuff,

2289
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 3: this phone here that I'm using right now throughout five

2290
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty bucks.

2291
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 2: What about drama about the camera stuff?

2292
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I took a bunch of photos of my

2293
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 3: son's baseball on the weekend. It was great. I mean,

2294
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 3: I don't have any issues with it, Like.

2295
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 6: I think it's it's more just with the rest of mine.

2296
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 2: Put those photos away. I don't want to see one

2297
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.

2298
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 6: Well, actually, ironically, look at that.

2299
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 3: Have you seen that vehicle?

2300
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I've heard of me.

2301
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah right. So this is a phone company or a

2302
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 3: tech company in China making a fucking electric car.

2303
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 2: Hire the designer from.

2304
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 6: Get that designer from.

2305
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 3: It's like, it's a beautiful looking car.

2306
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 2: That's a nice looking car.

2307
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 3: But see that's what's happening in China. I was in

2308
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 3: Shanghai and I was blown away by the number of

2309
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 3: ev companies that I'd never heard of, Axion or something

2310
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 3: and all these different things. They've got a ship ton

2311
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 3: of car.

2312
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 2: You're very weird tonight.

2313
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 3: I worry about you.

2314
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm worried about shte going. I saw you eat that pizza.

2315
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 2: He literally put it between two sizes of bread and

2316
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 2: ate it like a sandwich.

2317
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 3: That's going.

2318
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 2: I know. I took down the recipe.

2319
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 6: I did sneak a piece in while you're outside.

2320
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that cheesy crust. I haven't had one of those. Jesus,

2321
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 2: it's not bad. Good for Domino Dominos a sponsor of

2322
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: the show. They should they should be we should get

2323
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 2: a sponsor. Can you imagine we could get like e

2324
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 2: f T there you go, send me a proper and

2325
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 2: you imagined.

2326
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 6: Made a money by the look of it.

2327
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 2: Can you imagine me doing live reeson for Trevor em

2328
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 2: T what's it called? Anyway, if you want technological advice,

2329
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 2: don't send me a proper. Do you see that? Good

2330
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 2: people at is doing very well? He is doing great.

2331
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 6: He is He's he's certainly latched onto the electric car

2332
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 6: hitting situations.

2333
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Great respect for his use of the algorithm.

2334
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 2: It's brilliant. I'll tell you what ifever. I need a

2335
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 2: torch or like a device to shave my balls. He's

2336
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 2: your man.

2337
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 3: Any no machine, machine work done.

2338
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking he fucking has it all. He's that neighbor

2339
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 2: you kind of want, like.

2340
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 3: You're putting you can you weld this together for me?

2341
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, sure, Yeah, you're fucking it up, you're

2342
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 2: doing it wrong. Come, I'll do it. And then he'll

2343
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 2: tell you how much of a dickhead you are for

2344
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 2: forty five minutes, and then you'll probably have a couple

2345
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 2: of beers with you.

2346
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: That sounds like pretty much my every day.

2347
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,719
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