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Speaker 1: Powered by the radio WAB from ninety six Air AM.

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Speaker 2: So whereever you're listening today, this is Clearzy and Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the podcast some bits and pieces you

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Speaker 3: may have missed from earlier this year. Okay, I'm embarrassed,

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Speaker 3: come on because you're at a safe space with mates spiller,

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Speaker 3: because we had an early conversation this morning in the

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Speaker 3: office with our producer Susie, and we were talking about

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Speaker 3: someone who had posted something on Facebook and it was something, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we don't need to go in much detail, but it

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Speaker 3: was something on Facebook that we went. We were having

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Speaker 3: a bit of a laugh about something that was on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: Laugh laugh, laugh, and then all of a sudden, Susie

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Speaker 3: broke the news that only two people that liked this post, and.

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Speaker 4: One of them was me.

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Speaker 3: Now, I vividly remember reading this post right a couple

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Speaker 3: of days ago. Yes, however, I did not like this

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Speaker 3: post deliberately.

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Speaker 5: It was an accident.

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Speaker 6: In my own defense, it's called a thumble when you

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Speaker 6: fumble with your thumb. I just made that up, right,

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Speaker 6: Can we push for that word? Put it in the

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Speaker 6: Macquarie dictionary. Dumble when you accidentally like something online that

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Speaker 6: you didn't mean to, and we can.

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Speaker 3: Do some cool spelling so it can go on a

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Speaker 3: number plate with it doesn't need the E or something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 5: Rue believe it as it is.

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Speaker 4: It's aumble, okay if you want to copy right with it?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, okay, So mister thumble or mister Facebook fumble fingers. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it strikes again because I've been known to do this

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Speaker 3: a little bit, not so much on Facebook posts, but

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Speaker 3: just scrolling through on Instagram and I'll realize I've accidentally.

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Speaker 3: But it's not good when it's Jen Hawkins, you swimsuit

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Speaker 3: or something like that. I go better gun dislike that,

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Speaker 3: you can't unlike it, or Abby Chatfield's boobs or you

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Speaker 3: know whatever it might be that pops up in your feed.

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Speaker 5: Baby Chatfield full stop.

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Speaker 4: Now the question I need to ask. You know me

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Speaker 4: very well.

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Speaker 3: You've known me for a long long time, since I

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Speaker 3: was in short pants and you were younger. Do you

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Speaker 3: believe me that I didn't like this post?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I totally believe Thank you, considering the much better considering

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Speaker 6: the context of text.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm surprised you haven't said what my reaction to

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Speaker 5: do you say?

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Speaker 4: You like you suck you big greaser in the morning.

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Speaker 5: No, I do, but I take that back.

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Speaker 6: I retract statement, thank you, because I do believe that

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Speaker 6: there's no way you would have purposefully.

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Speaker 4: There's no way that was a stumble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've got to work on my dexterity with

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Speaker 3: my fingers online, yes, because it can be dangerous, and

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Speaker 3: especially when it's not like we've all done it, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: especially when it's not like forty seven people like that,

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Speaker 3: they're only two.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've put the wrong you know emoji, like what

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Speaker 6: I've meant to just say I liked it, and I've

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Speaker 6: you know, put like an angry or a questioning one

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Speaker 6: or something and the person's come back and said no, actually,

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Speaker 6: So it really was like I don't know how.

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Speaker 3: That up there, yeah, which is not like like a

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Speaker 3: deliberate thing, like when I told old man I had

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Speaker 3: a better bad day the other day some stuff had

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Speaker 3: gone on, and he sent me an lol, and that

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Speaker 3: was he was thinking.

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Speaker 4: It was he just got them, He just got the

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Speaker 4: lots of love, he.

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Speaker 5: Said, Well, there was always lots of love.

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Speaker 4: Not lots of laughs.

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Speaker 5: And to be fair, it's always going to be lots

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Speaker 3: But I just laugh can be very Yeah, it can

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Speaker 3: be very embarrassing when you fumble around with your phone

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Speaker 3: and do that kind of thing. So guilty of being fumby.

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Speaker 6: Now when you unlike something that you liked, Yes, does

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Speaker 6: it go on any kind of permanent record? Does anyone

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Speaker 6: know that you've They might have seen that you did,

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Speaker 6: and then they see that you don't seen it when

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Speaker 6: you get it, because you get a notification if someone

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Speaker 6: likes something of yours, don't think, don't get a notification

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Speaker 6: of guess what, they took it back again?

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Speaker 4: And in this case, I don't care. I don't will

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Speaker 4: be more careful.

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Speaker 5: More clezy, more Lisa more podcasts so.

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Speaker 6: Well, it happens to the best of us. Cold Chisel

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Speaker 6: is turning the Big five. Oh and the tour is

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Speaker 6: coming to sand Off for wines, because we'll all need

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Speaker 6: a wine for this one. October nineteen is part of

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Speaker 6: the Red Hot Summer Tour. Tickets go on pre sale

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Speaker 6: this Friday through Cold Chisel dot com. And we have

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Speaker 6: got an extra special treat because we've got Jimmy Barnes

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Speaker 6: and Ian Moss that morning, Double Trouble, Double Trouble, who

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Speaker 6: have thought fifty years.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, wow, where did they go, Did you tell.

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Speaker 5: Me, did you really think we'll still be doing this

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Speaker 5: in fifty years.

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Speaker 7: There's not a chance.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think we I didn't think i'd make twenty

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Speaker 1: one when I was.

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Speaker 4: Nobody else that.

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Speaker 1: So it's good, you know, because you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: all the bands that we love, you know, like the

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Speaker 1: blues bands and the Muddy Waters, all those bands they tour,

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Speaker 1: they drop, and so yeah, when I look back on

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Speaker 1: it, it seems quite.

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Speaker 7: Natural that we're still doing it. So, you know, play

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Speaker 7: with the people you love, making music with the.

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Speaker 6: Great supporting cast line up, the Cruel Sea, Birds of Tokyo,

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Speaker 6: the Super Jesus. I mean, the idea of Chisel and

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Speaker 6: texts to get at last.

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Speaker 1: I love that well, you know text and textan and

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Speaker 1: you know, most of us I've been I've been friends

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I remember when I was away

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Speaker 1: you know, coolse he sort of hit it really big,

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Speaker 1: and I remember coming back and every and everybody you

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Speaker 1: know saying, oh the texts, you know there's here, there's

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Speaker 1: a front man. He's a big mean you know, the

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Speaker 1: United He'll kill He'll kill you. Jimmy So I remember

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Speaker 1: going to a gig in Sydney and I'm thinking I

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Speaker 7: I think I'm probably gonna have to fight this singer.

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Speaker 1: And I walked in and Texan and Text and I

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Speaker 1: were friends from the minute we seen we see each other.

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Speaker 7: He's an awesome guy, incredible front man.

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Speaker 1: And what a great band, you know, and Birds of

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Speaker 1: Tokyo you know, Perth Perth band, local band, makes good, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, super Jesus, you know, you know, you know, I

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Speaker 7: just I just love them.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Gravity is one of my favorite sort of rock tracks.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's great, you know, be part of that

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Speaker 1: thing about, you know, being in control of the shows

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Speaker 1: and making sure that the audience get a great show.

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Speaker 1: Is hand selecting these bands to play with us because

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Speaker 1: every one of them is going to bring something fabulous

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Sarah McLoud two years ago, Friends Restaurant, do us

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just blew the socks everyone. She's a wild girl.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah, it was incredible.

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Speaker 7: She's a great girl. We love her.

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Speaker 6: Jimmy, I would ask how the recovery is going, but

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Speaker 6: I think just your your passionate enthusiasm talking to you

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Speaker 6: right now has answered my question.

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Speaker 4: You sound like, yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 7: I listen.

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Speaker 1: Literally the end of last year when I got sick,

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Speaker 1: So it took me a while, but I'm back on

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Speaker 1: you can evidently be going great, and we could all

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Speaker 1: we could all die next week. So let's have a

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Speaker 1: good time this week about we're here for a good time,

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Speaker 1: not a long time. So we're gonna I'm really well

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Speaker 1: and I'm ready to wrong.

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Speaker 3: I've seen I've seen your Instagram and your social media stuff,

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Speaker 3: and I feel like I've swum all those laps with you.

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Speaker 4: Been a long road, well, a long swimming.

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Speaker 1: That's goods swimming none, he's good to really going. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we'll be like a little track team, will be swimming

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Speaker 1: recent on the in Perth to rock back.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's a that's a guy.

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Speaker 7: I know that'd be that'd be terrible to be sharks

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Speaker 7: for sure.

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Speaker 5: I reckon if anyone's going to take him on, I'm

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Speaker 5: no worries.

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Speaker 4: I dare them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, boys and me, Well listen, both of you.

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Speaker 6: Casting your mind back to seventy four seventy five, do

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Speaker 6: you remember the first time stop us? Not the first

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Speaker 6: time you heard yourselves on the radio?

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Speaker 7: You know, I know that all.

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Speaker 7: Used to hearing yourself on the radio.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's always exciting to sort of hear you

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Speaker 7: It out and then you're hearing the radio.

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Speaker 1: And that might sound great to hear it once, but

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Speaker 7: Oh god, we could have done that better. Yeah, get

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Speaker 1: So literally, you know, you know, you're as good as

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Speaker 7: What can I do? Make it better?

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Speaker 1: So every time I hear a record on the radio,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well first one would have been Can from the

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Speaker 3: first album seventy eight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, for about five minutes before we got banned, of course.

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Speaker 1: That was But the best thing they can do for

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Speaker 1: a rock and roll band is absolutely people.

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Speaker 7: People turned up and droves after that.

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Speaker 5: Put a warning on the album cover that got you

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Speaker 1: But to be fair, Kay, Sam wasn't really the band

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Speaker 1: Were we were really tough, playing lots of pubs and

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Speaker 7: Although we played all those songs live, we played them

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Speaker 7: like like on like you know, on ten you know

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Speaker 1: Yes, so it was people would see that song, oh,

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Speaker 4: Labs and it's still in their bodies still.

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Speaker 3: More Clezy More Lisa More podcasts soon.

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Speaker 6: We have been talking about how nineteen eighty four turns

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Speaker 5: We don't just mean the book, we don't mean the movie.

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Speaker 6: We me in the year and so much happened in

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Speaker 6: nineteen eighty four, not least of which Perfect Match launched

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Speaker 5: Hello Greg Evans, Good morning Greg.

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Speaker 2: Hello guys, nice to talk to you. I cannot believe

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Speaker 2: where did that forty years go?

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Speaker 4: Oh well, we think we know where it went.

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Speaker 6: Even how did you get the hosting gig on a

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Speaker 5: You're and Dexter, Well, I was.

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Speaker 2: I was working on radio. Of course, radio was my

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Speaker 2: show rang me and said, listen, we've got a dating

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Speaker 2: Come up to Sydney and have a look. And I did.

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Speaker 2: They introduced me to a beautiful lady called demin News

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Speaker 2: and they said, I said, well, why A mean? They said, well,

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Speaker 2: Channel ten I've decided they want you. I'd won some

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Speaker 6: Sensational the job, the beautiful diminuism. But what was your

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Speaker 6: reaction to? Oh, and there'll also be a robot.

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Speaker 2: The robot. The funny thing was that took us about

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Speaker 2: was going to be called Astro and oh yeah, there

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Speaker 2: it's amazing because now when people talk to me about

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Speaker 5: Where is it?

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Speaker 4: We speculated about it this morning.

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Speaker 2: Deat is in a museum where I should be in

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Speaker 3: Archive I sensalople to have a bit of a look

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: No, The beautiful part about Perfect Match was that it

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Speaker 2: and so that's I think, I think that's what might

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Speaker 6: And another great thing about the show, as I recall

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Speaker 2: They said people were backing the door down the match,

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Speaker 2: couple of some of them wanted to go on because

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Speaker 2: they just wanted to be on TV. Of course, some

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Speaker 2: Some of them wanted us to go on to find

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Speaker 2: there was eleven marriages as a result of the show.

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Speaker 4: It's unreal.

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Speaker 6: Could you always tell when you had the one that

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Speaker 5: Here I got to show off.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

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Speaker 3: We talk now about the nasty undertones or even the

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Speaker 3: obvious nasty stuff on reality dating shows now, But occasionally

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Speaker 3: they just didn't get on, did they.

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Speaker 2: That's true, That is true. I reckon, I reckon. About

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Speaker 6: Least I, as you say, clear a little bit more polite.

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Speaker 6: It was just sort of an It was that awkward returning,

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Speaker 5: Do you have you had anyone come up to.

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Speaker 6: You and say, oh, you know, I've My parents.

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Speaker 5: Got together on Perfect Match.

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Speaker 2: And here I am absolutely absolutely Lisa. They did a

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Speaker 2: the couple who lived in Humpty Do just out of Darwin, Yes,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, Clezi and Lisa