Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 1: It's Flex and fromes Cater. Often I do hit, but
Speaker 1: sometimes I do hit and miss. Last week FLEXI spoke
Speaker 1: about them cells and I was like, I've never actually
Speaker 1: heard that before because despite appearances, yeah, I'm online all
Speaker 1: the time, I'm just looking at my own story.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it makes a lot of stund Once
Speaker 3: I heard that about a session of TikTok, like two
Speaker 3: hours a week or something. It wasn't adding up. Why
Speaker 3: she's like this are you here this day?
Speaker 4: It's thinking about that constantly. How are you like this
Speaker 4: and you're not consuming?
Speaker 5: Every time she posts one hundred tiktoks on her Instagram,
Speaker 5: I'm like, I thought we were only on here for
Speaker 5: two hours.
Speaker 4: Brain but like from the core, he's run the guys.
Speaker 1: You When I'm doing the little TikTok, Dumpias dump pianas,
Speaker 1: it's from a two hour session and I'm going in,
Speaker 1: I'm not going in trying to find enjoyment. I'm going
Speaker 1: in with everybody else in mind.
Speaker 2: Oh, I literally do it. That's why I really posted.
Speaker 3: When you get feedback, it doesn't hit well because like
Speaker 3: I did this free you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, fore someone, I'm actually not going to
Speaker 1: go into it, but baby, don't hurt me.
Speaker 2: I hate that no more.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Flex and Frooms Kit.
Speaker 1: I was in New York recently, as was Mickey in
Speaker 1: another Northern Hemisphere area that's called Europe, and she came
Speaker 1: back with a little tiny question for us flex to
Speaker 1: dissemble in the show Dissemble Dissemble.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was recently on holidays with my friend, she writes,
Speaker 1: and we will all these things too.
Speaker 4: She's also here in the studio. I'm Nicky, Hi producer Mickey.
Speaker 4: If anyone sorry, yeah, if anyone's new around here.
Speaker 1: Don't have a random chic know the job title. She's
Speaker 1: on the panels, guy, I don't worry. She gets down
Speaker 1: and dirty with the tech. I was listening on holidays
Speaker 1: with my friend.
Speaker 4: Micky's going to say, because she's here, Micky.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: So I was on holidays with my friend and we
Speaker 5: booked all these things, like you know, we DIDVT it up.
Speaker 5: She had half, I did half, et cetera. Stunning and
Speaker 5: I found that everything she booked she put us down
Speaker 5: as m I S S yes, And I always put
Speaker 5: us down as MS.
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, I wanted to know what you guys do.
Speaker 2: Okay, I love this.
Speaker 3: I base it based on mood and the environment that
Speaker 3: I'm filling out the forms. If I want them to
Speaker 3: perceive me as serious, I'll say miss MS. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: I'm feeling playful and loose, I'll do a MISS. But
Speaker 3: I don't really feel like no one teaches us these things.
Speaker 4: Literally, which do you use for me?
Speaker 1: So I, without failure, Miss M, I s S. It's
Speaker 1: very pink coated. I do it because I just remember
Speaker 1: older women being joked about when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: and I was like, MS, if you're like a spindle.
Speaker 2: Spin, So that's why I don't do it.
Speaker 4: But then you also told.
Speaker 3: Us about that hack last week. I mean, it's not
Speaker 3: a hack, it's just your existence. You sign off your
Speaker 3: emails at LPs people. I like, who is this potential
Speaker 3: man that I was speaking to with so much authority?
Speaker 1: It's giving like I came up with these ideals when
Speaker 1: I was just brain the world was unjust. I haven't.
Speaker 4: I haven't looked back at you. What is the difference
Speaker 4: between me and miss? Do you know?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: Miss is unmarried. MS is whatever you want it to be.
Speaker 5: It could be married.
Speaker 4: It could be so s S is like you're a girl.
Speaker 2: Yea, this is like you past twenty five and you're single, okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then mrs married And then I think there's MX, Yeah,
Speaker 5: which is what's that?
Speaker 4: MX is gender neutral gender?
Speaker 3: I love learning everyone. Yeah, that's one of my favorite hobbies.
Speaker 1: Thanks for that, Mickey. Last week, FLEXI, you somehow brought
Speaker 1: up Asmoel's theem cells. I have no idea what this was, right,
Speaker 1: what was there a reference to? Do you remember?
Speaker 5: Cool?
Speaker 3: But I think we were talking about how matriarchy isn't
Speaker 3: just the girl version of patriarchy, and as it's similar
Speaker 3: to in cells, like a fem cell just is in
Speaker 3: the girl version of an in cell?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, And then I thought, what the hell is
Speaker 1: afem cell? So I went and had a little google.
Speaker 1: The woman's work never stops, and essentially, afem cell is
Speaker 1: a woman that is involuntarily celibate, named as such after
Speaker 1: the male version of the group, which is in cell.
Speaker 1: In cell is not fun. In cells are related to
Speaker 1: misogynistic violence, and it came about as a general term
Speaker 1: for single people who struggle to make connections with others
Speaker 1: and ironically the term is actually coined by a woman originally.
Speaker 1: Like in cells, the fem cell community was previously very
Speaker 1: active on Reddit. One popular thread, true fem Cells, was
Speaker 1: banned from the platform in June twenty twenty for inciting hatred.
Speaker 3: The nuance within the insul and fem cell movement is
Speaker 3: draws a lot of parallels between the violence of men
Speaker 3: and the violence of women. And so generally, what intels
Speaker 3: are talking about, or a lot of the conversations that
Speaker 3: happen in these closed spaces are people projecting onto the
Speaker 3: women around them in a kind of entitled way. Why
Speaker 3: don't they want me? What's wrong with them? And if
Speaker 3: I had one of them, I would do insert derogatory thing.
Speaker 3: They're there, there, and they're and there. Generally, fem cells
Speaker 3: are a response to in cells when they talk about
Speaker 3: like the rise of loneliness and men and the rise
Speaker 3: of celibacy and women.
Speaker 4: It's in response to the men. Do you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 3: Like women are saying it's not better. Statistics are saying
Speaker 3: it's not better to be coupled up with a man,
Speaker 3: a women's hetero. Women who marry men, their quality of
Speaker 3: life goes down dramatically. So it's kind of like this
Speaker 3: movement that's in response to the like fragmented nature of
Speaker 3: heteronormative partnerships. But the in cells are turning into terrorists
Speaker 3: and the fem cells are turning into isolated, lonely people. Wow,
Speaker 3: weird are also very scary, Yeah, because I think people
Speaker 3: like to oversimplify, Oh, this is all coming because you
Speaker 3: can't get a partner. It's like, yeah, this is what
Speaker 3: happens when people feel isolated and they're not connecting with
Speaker 3: other people and they don't have a healthy outlet to
Speaker 3: explore these feelings. Society is very flippant when it comes
Speaker 3: to people who can't find love, who aren't experiencing dating. Well,
Speaker 3: a lot of the people who are in the middle
Speaker 3: of all these dating conversations are generally conventionally attracted people
Speaker 3: having a dry spell, not people who are fifteen have
Speaker 3: been kissed before, do.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's like a different bag.
Speaker 3: So that's when you get people who are on the
Speaker 3: fringes of the conversation and the fringes of the experience
Speaker 3: having to create this microcosm for themselves where their story
Speaker 3: can be amplified and respected in a way that isn't
Speaker 3: pitied and that's where it gets difficult.
Speaker 1: That's interesting, FLEXI thank you for letting me start that
Speaker 1: break and you actually do come in and explain it.
Speaker 2: That was very important. This is Flex and Frooms on Kita.
Speaker 3: We have a moral dilemma, but it's come in house
Speaker 3: from one of our very own producer, Mickey recently spent
Speaker 3: some time abroad, has come back araumatized based on the situation,
Speaker 3: and she's gracing the mic right here right now in
Speaker 3: Flex and Rooms to tell us a story, please, Mickeyana.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I was recently in Spain, Barcelona.
Speaker 4: You said you loved it by Salona.
Speaker 5: I did like Barcelona, very nice city, felt like Melbourne
Speaker 5: with the Melbourne of Spain.
Speaker 4: We all have from.
Speaker 5: We did a very big walking day, you know, like
Speaker 5: a twenty twenty thousand step kind of moment, and we
Speaker 5: all needed a nap.
Speaker 4: So me and my.
Speaker 5: Friends went back to our it was about a two
Speaker 5: star hotel, and we had our little nap and I was,
Speaker 5: you know, napping, and I was trying to ignore what
Speaker 5: was the sounds outside the window.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm going to ignore these sounds.
Speaker 5: I'm napping a snap time and there was a hook
Speaker 5: on like floors above, just banging against the glass, kind of.
Speaker 4: Like a hook that would be attached like a fishing hook. Oh,
Speaker 4: like a small hook.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a small hook, but it was pointy,
Speaker 5: real pointing, and we're talking like hook hook and it
Speaker 5: was just banging and I thought it was going to
Speaker 5: break through the glass?
Speaker 4: How weighty is this hook?
Speaker 5: It was? Wait, it was really why do you look
Speaker 5: like this is a fake story?
Speaker 3: She's telling her experience and should I just google fishing hooks?
Speaker 4: We are on the carrier. I just want to make
Speaker 4: sure you go. I'm going to go.
Speaker 5: So the hook is banging on the door. I'm like,
Speaker 5: what is going on? And I was like, actually, frankly,
Speaker 5: I don't want to enter into.
Speaker 4: What's going on.
Speaker 5: And then my friend goes, Mikayla, someone is screaming down
Speaker 5: the hallway.
Speaker 4: We need to go help. Strange way to connect those
Speaker 4: two cents. She was like, Mikhayla, something's going on. We
Speaker 4: have to go help. And I was like, nothing's going on.
Speaker 4: I want to know that's there's some denial there from you.
Speaker 5: I want to know what you guys would have done
Speaker 5: in this situation.
Speaker 4: Do you want to start through me. I think you
Speaker 4: might want to.
Speaker 1: I am going to go out there, Okay. I have
Speaker 1: a dramatic type personality, and I am like a chihabah,
Speaker 1: bigger than bigger than.
Speaker 2: The boots, big boots.
Speaker 1: So I'd go out there and help help another lady
Speaker 1: in need. And you were assuming to lady she said
Speaker 1: a feminine like scream.
Speaker 4: Not to quote.
Speaker 6: Okay, tell me if it was a man screaming, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna go out there with a weapon.
Speaker 4: I'm not coming to help.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of shut the situation down.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh.
Speaker 3: We've all seen horror movies, and we've all debated what
Speaker 3: we would or would not do if we were in
Speaker 3: a circumstance where danger was present. One thing you don't
Speaker 3: want to do is have the whole party go in
Speaker 3: one direction, because if for some reason you're walking to
Speaker 3: sudden death, that's all of you out. No one to
Speaker 3: claim you, bury you, honor your legacy. It's dead and done.
Speaker 3: I personally don't see signs of danger as an open door.
Speaker 3: If it sounds dangerous, I'm exiting myself. I'm shielding myself. Also,
Speaker 3: you're in a foreign country. Who's coming to save you?
Speaker 3: If something goes wrong. Did your insurance come to that?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: And this was my argument, I'm not going outside. It's
Speaker 4: a logistic perspective. I don't think we should realize that insurance.
Speaker 3: Truly think about the way it's gonna escalate. It's not
Speaker 3: it's not it which begs me to this topic. If
Speaker 3: we know that if we heard screaming commotion outside we
Speaker 3: would not go, then what is the right thing to
Speaker 3: do in danger to guarantee someone's gonna help you?
Speaker 2: Cry?
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, I'm gonna need some descriptions. There's a la
Speaker 4: la la out here.
Speaker 3: He's threatening every single person in these rooms.
Speaker 4: It's not just me. He's starting here, but he's coming
Speaker 4: and get you. If we all bent together, we can
Speaker 4: survive starting as being attacked.
Speaker 5: To be fair, this woman could follow me on instagramrooms.
Speaker 5: So what happened was after I said my friend, I'm
Speaker 5: not going out there, I refuse to said Michayla, I
Speaker 5: think someone needs help.
Speaker 4: I'm going okay, hero complex. I was like, okay, can
Speaker 4: you go. I was like, we're separate, I'll be here,
Speaker 4: and she went.
Speaker 5: She went outside, and what happened was the receptionist had
Speaker 5: locked herself out.
Speaker 2: Well she should have said, you.
Speaker 5: Know what, she's totally speaking Spanish, but yeah, she came
Speaker 5: in and was like, thank you so much, girls, I've
Speaker 5: locked myself out. I'm so sorry about the hook. And
Speaker 5: immediately the hook just winds up.
Speaker 1: Oh so she was trying to like, oh, yes, so.
Speaker 3: She got why didn't she attach a note book that's
Speaker 3: so menacing?
Speaker 4: For no reason? Can you free?
Speaker 2: She should give you an upgrade to a three.
Speaker 4: Story or something. Yeah, they could have, but they did,
Speaker 4: And this is why you don't help.
Speaker 5: And now I know what i'd act like in a
Speaker 5: safe situation of crisis.
Speaker 4: Safety first, Yeah, every man for them. This is not
Speaker 4: the time to be batman.
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