WEBVTT - Wait, Am I A Femcel? 👸

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Flex and fromes Cater. Often I do hit, but

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I do hit and miss. Last week FLEXI spoke

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<v Speaker 1>about them cells and I was like, I've never actually

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<v Speaker 1>heard that before because despite appearances, yeah, I'm online all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, I'm just looking at my own story.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying it makes a lot of stund Once

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<v Speaker 3>I heard that about a session of TikTok, like two

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<v Speaker 3>hours a week or something. It wasn't adding up. Why

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<v Speaker 3>she's like this are you here this day?

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<v Speaker 4>It's thinking about that constantly. How are you like this

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<v Speaker 4>and you're not consuming?

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<v Speaker 5>Every time she posts one hundred tiktoks on her Instagram,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, I thought we were only on here for

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<v Speaker 5>two hours.

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<v Speaker 4>Brain but like from the core, he's run the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You When I'm doing the little TikTok, Dumpias dump pianas,

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<v Speaker 1>it's from a two hour session and I'm going in,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going in trying to find enjoyment. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>in with everybody else in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I literally do it. That's why I really posted.

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<v Speaker 3>When you get feedback, it doesn't hit well because like

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<v Speaker 3>I did this free you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, fore someone, I'm actually not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into it, but baby, don't hurt me.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that no more.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Flex and Frooms Kit.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in New York recently, as was Mickey in

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<v Speaker 1>another Northern Hemisphere area that's called Europe, and she came

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<v Speaker 1>back with a little tiny question for us flex to

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<v Speaker 1>dissemble in the show Dissemble Dissemble.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was recently on holidays with my friend, she writes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will all these things too.

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<v Speaker 4>She's also here in the studio. I'm Nicky, Hi producer Mickey.

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<v Speaker 4>If anyone sorry, yeah, if anyone's new around here.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have a random chic know the job title. She's

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<v Speaker 1>on the panels, guy, I don't worry. She gets down

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<v Speaker 1>and dirty with the tech. I was listening on holidays

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<v Speaker 1>with my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Micky's going to say, because she's here, Micky.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was on holidays with my friend and we

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<v Speaker 5>booked all these things, like you know, we DIDVT it up.

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<v Speaker 5>She had half, I did half, et cetera. Stunning and

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<v Speaker 5>I found that everything she booked she put us down

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<v Speaker 5>as m I S S yes, And I always put

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<v Speaker 5>us down as MS.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh interesting, I wanted to know what you guys do.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I love this.

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<v Speaker 3>I base it based on mood and the environment that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm filling out the forms. If I want them to

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<v Speaker 3>perceive me as serious, I'll say miss MS. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm feeling playful and loose, I'll do a MISS. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really feel like no one teaches us these things.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, which do you use for me?

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<v Speaker 1>So I, without failure, Miss M, I s S. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very pink coated. I do it because I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>older women being joked about when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, MS, if you're like a spindle.

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<v Speaker 2>Spin, So that's why I don't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you also told.

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<v Speaker 3>Us about that hack last week. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a hack, it's just your existence. You sign off your

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<v Speaker 3>emails at LPs people. I like, who is this potential

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<v Speaker 3>man that I was speaking to with so much authority?

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving like I came up with these ideals when

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<v Speaker 1>I was just brain the world was unjust. I haven't.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't looked back at you. What is the difference

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<v Speaker 4>between me and miss? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>Miss is unmarried. MS is whatever you want it to be.

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<v Speaker 5>It could be married.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be so s S is like you're a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, this is like you past twenty five and you're single, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and then mrs married And then I think there's MX, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>which is what's that?

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<v Speaker 4>MX is gender neutral gender?

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<v Speaker 3>I love learning everyone. Yeah, that's one of my favorite hobbies.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for that, Mickey. Last week, FLEXI, you somehow brought

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<v Speaker 1>up Asmoel's theem cells. I have no idea what this was, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what was there a reference to? Do you remember?

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<v Speaker 5>Cool?

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<v Speaker 3>But I think we were talking about how matriarchy isn't

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<v Speaker 3>just the girl version of patriarchy, and as it's similar

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<v Speaker 3>to in cells, like a fem cell just is in

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<v Speaker 3>the girl version of an in cell?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, And then I thought, what the hell is

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<v Speaker 1>afem cell? So I went and had a little google.

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<v Speaker 1>The woman's work never stops, and essentially, afem cell is

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<v Speaker 1>a woman that is involuntarily celibate, named as such after

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<v Speaker 1>the male version of the group, which is in cell.

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<v Speaker 1>In cell is not fun. In cells are related to

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<v Speaker 1>misogynistic violence, and it came about as a general term

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<v Speaker 1>for single people who struggle to make connections with others

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<v Speaker 1>and ironically the term is actually coined by a woman originally.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in cells, the fem cell community was previously very

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<v Speaker 1>active on Reddit. One popular thread, true fem Cells, was

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<v Speaker 1>banned from the platform in June twenty twenty for inciting hatred.

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<v Speaker 3>The nuance within the insul and fem cell movement is

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<v Speaker 3>draws a lot of parallels between the violence of men

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<v Speaker 3>and the violence of women. And so generally, what intels

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<v Speaker 3>are talking about, or a lot of the conversations that

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<v Speaker 3>happen in these closed spaces are people projecting onto the

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<v Speaker 3>women around them in a kind of entitled way. Why

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<v Speaker 3>don't they want me? What's wrong with them? And if

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<v Speaker 3>I had one of them, I would do insert derogatory thing.

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<v Speaker 3>They're there, there, and they're and there. Generally, fem cells

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<v Speaker 3>are a response to in cells when they talk about

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<v Speaker 3>like the rise of loneliness and men and the rise

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<v Speaker 3>of celibacy and women.

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<v Speaker 4>It's in response to the men. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like women are saying it's not better. Statistics are saying

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<v Speaker 3>it's not better to be coupled up with a man,

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<v Speaker 3>a women's hetero. Women who marry men, their quality of

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<v Speaker 3>life goes down dramatically. So it's kind of like this

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<v Speaker 3>movement that's in response to the like fragmented nature of

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<v Speaker 3>heteronormative partnerships. But the in cells are turning into terrorists

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<v Speaker 3>and the fem cells are turning into isolated, lonely people. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>weird are also very scary, Yeah, because I think people

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<v Speaker 3>like to oversimplify, Oh, this is all coming because you

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<v Speaker 3>can't get a partner. It's like, yeah, this is what

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<v Speaker 3>happens when people feel isolated and they're not connecting with

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<v Speaker 3>other people and they don't have a healthy outlet to

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<v Speaker 3>explore these feelings. Society is very flippant when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to people who can't find love, who aren't experiencing dating. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the people who are in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of all these dating conversations are generally conventionally attracted people

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<v Speaker 3>having a dry spell, not people who are fifteen have

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<v Speaker 3>been kissed before, do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. It's like a different bag.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's when you get people who are on the

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<v Speaker 3>fringes of the conversation and the fringes of the experience

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<v Speaker 3>having to create this microcosm for themselves where their story

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<v Speaker 3>can be amplified and respected in a way that isn't

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<v Speaker 3>pitied and that's where it gets difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, FLEXI thank you for letting me start that

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<v Speaker 1>break and you actually do come in and explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was very important. This is Flex and Frooms on Kita.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a moral dilemma, but it's come in house

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<v Speaker 3>from one of our very own producer, Mickey recently spent

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<v Speaker 3>some time abroad, has come back araumatized based on the situation,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's gracing the mic right here right now in

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<v Speaker 3>Flex and Rooms to tell us a story, please, Mickeyana.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I was recently in Spain, Barcelona.

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<v Speaker 4>You said you loved it by Salona.

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<v Speaker 5>I did like Barcelona, very nice city, felt like Melbourne

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<v Speaker 5>with the Melbourne of Spain.

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<v Speaker 4>We all have from.

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<v Speaker 5>We did a very big walking day, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>a twenty twenty thousand step kind of moment, and we

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<v Speaker 5>all needed a nap.

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<v Speaker 4>So me and my.

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<v Speaker 5>Friends went back to our it was about a two

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<v Speaker 5>star hotel, and we had our little nap and I was,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, napping, and I was trying to ignore what

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<v Speaker 5>was the sounds outside the window.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I'm going to ignore these sounds.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm napping a snap time and there was a hook

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<v Speaker 5>on like floors above, just banging against the glass, kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a hook that would be attached like a fishing hook. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>like a small hook.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was a small hook, but it was pointy,

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<v Speaker 5>real pointing, and we're talking like hook hook and it

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<v Speaker 5>was just banging and I thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 5>break through the glass?

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<v Speaker 4>How weighty is this hook?

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<v Speaker 5>It was? Wait, it was really why do you look

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<v Speaker 5>like this is a fake story?

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<v Speaker 3>She's telling her experience and should I just google fishing hooks?

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<v Speaker 4>We are on the carrier. I just want to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure you go. I'm going to go.

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<v Speaker 5>So the hook is banging on the door. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>what is going on? And I was like, actually, frankly,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to enter into.

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<v Speaker 4>What's going on.

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<v Speaker 5>And then my friend goes, Mikayla, someone is screaming down

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<v Speaker 5>the hallway.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to go help. Strange way to connect those

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<v Speaker 4>two cents. She was like, Mikhayla, something's going on. We

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<v Speaker 4>have to go help. And I was like, nothing's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to know that's there's some denial there from you.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to know what you guys would have done

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<v Speaker 5>in this situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want to start through me. I think you

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<v Speaker 4>might want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to go out there, Okay. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a dramatic type personality, and I am like a chihabah,

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than bigger than.

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<v Speaker 2>The boots, big boots.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd go out there and help help another lady

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<v Speaker 1>in need. And you were assuming to lady she said

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<v Speaker 1>a feminine like scream.

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<v Speaker 4>Not to quote.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, tell me if it was a man screaming, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna go out there with a weapon.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not coming to help.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of shut the situation down.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>We've all seen horror movies, and we've all debated what

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<v Speaker 3>we would or would not do if we were in

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<v Speaker 3>a circumstance where danger was present. One thing you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to do is have the whole party go in

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<v Speaker 3>one direction, because if for some reason you're walking to

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<v Speaker 3>sudden death, that's all of you out. No one to

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<v Speaker 3>claim you, bury you, honor your legacy. It's dead and done.

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<v Speaker 3>I personally don't see signs of danger as an open door.

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<v Speaker 3>If it sounds dangerous, I'm exiting myself. I'm shielding myself. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>you're in a foreign country. Who's coming to save you?

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<v Speaker 3>If something goes wrong. Did your insurance come to that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>And this was my argument, I'm not going outside. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a logistic perspective. I don't think we should realize that insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>Truly think about the way it's gonna escalate. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>it's not it which begs me to this topic. If

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<v Speaker 3>we know that if we heard screaming commotion outside we

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<v Speaker 3>would not go, then what is the right thing to

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<v Speaker 3>do in danger to guarantee someone's gonna help you?

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<v Speaker 2>Cry?

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmmm, I'm gonna need some descriptions. There's a la

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<v Speaker 4>la la out here.

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<v Speaker 3>He's threatening every single person in these rooms.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not just me. He's starting here, but he's coming

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<v Speaker 4>and get you. If we all bent together, we can

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<v Speaker 4>survive starting as being attacked.

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<v Speaker 5>To be fair, this woman could follow me on instagramrooms.

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<v Speaker 5>So what happened was after I said my friend, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not going out there, I refuse to said Michayla, I

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<v Speaker 5>think someone needs help.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going okay, hero complex. I was like, okay, can

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<v Speaker 4>you go. I was like, we're separate, I'll be here,

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<v Speaker 4>and she went.

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<v Speaker 5>She went outside, and what happened was the receptionist had

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<v Speaker 5>locked herself out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well she should have said, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what, she's totally speaking Spanish, but yeah, she came

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<v Speaker 5>in and was like, thank you so much, girls, I've

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<v Speaker 5>locked myself out. I'm so sorry about the hook. And

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<v Speaker 5>immediately the hook just winds up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so she was trying to like, oh, yes, so.

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<v Speaker 3>She got why didn't she attach a note book that's

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<v Speaker 3>so menacing?

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<v Speaker 4>For no reason? Can you free?

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<v Speaker 2>She should give you an upgrade to a three.

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<v Speaker 4>Story or something. Yeah, they could have, but they did,

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<v Speaker 4>And this is why you don't help.

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<v Speaker 5>And now I know what i'd act like in a

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<v Speaker 5>safe situation of crisis.

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<v Speaker 4>Safety first, Yeah, every man for them. This is not

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<v Speaker 4>the time to be batman.

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