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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 1: On today's I'll Do Better Tomorrow, Kylie revisits homeschooling and

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Speaker 1: you know, Kylie, I didn't tell you about this. I

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Speaker 1: took Emily, our ten year old, to the aquarium the

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Speaker 1: other day. She has the membership because of the whole

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Speaker 1: homeschool thing. I took her to the aquarium. It didn't

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Speaker 1: stay long though. Ask me why? Why something fishy about

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Speaker 2: You're terrible.

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Speaker 1: You're terrible, all right. If you need to the podcast, welcome.

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Speaker 1: We're so glad to have you along. Every Friday on

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Speaker 1: the podcast, we talk about how we're being intentional in

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Speaker 1: our parenting, what went well, what didn't, how we can

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Speaker 1: be better tomorrow. That's what's called I'll Do Better Tomorrow, Kylie.

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Speaker 2: Last Saturday, I attended the Resilient Kids Conference with you

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Speaker 1: It was a big weekend. We had about seven hundred

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Speaker 1: was me, Maggie Dent, Karen Young, and Michelle Mitchell all

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Speaker 1: be resilient, and yeah, you came along and I think

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Speaker 1: the book table, everyone was like, are you really Kylie

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Speaker 2: Well. I love that nobody actually realizes who I am.

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Speaker 2: It was so nice and interacting with everybody and just

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Speaker 2: hearing their stories and it's always nice to know that

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Speaker 2: Makes you more available. Therefore you are a better husband

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Speaker 1: So we hope that's giving you some inspiration this week,

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Speaker 1: whether you think about homeschooling, whether you think that we're

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Speaker 1: Anything else from you, no, Okay, have a great weekend everyone.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening to the Happy Families podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's produced by Justin Ruland from Bridge Media. Love your work, Jr.

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