1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio right now is the 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: acting Assistant Commissioner of Northern Territory Police, Peter Maley. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Good morning to Youaty. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Good to have you in the studio now, Peter, I 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: understand there's been a bit of an update on the 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: crime that really infuriated a lot of people that had 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: occurred at Crocodiler's Park where there was ducks, a family 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: of ducks driven over. There was selfies taken with the crocodile, 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: all sorts of things, a car stolen as well. I 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: believe where are things at with that investigation. 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: So it's about two o'clock yesterday, Cady. 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the tried members along with the Dog Operations Unit 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: arrested nineteen year old male from an address in Malac 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: and that's the you know, the as you spoke about 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: the offense. Has it occurred, you know around about mid 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 3: ninety broke into crocodilers you know the style of crocodile, 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: took some selfies, style of car, run over the ducks 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: and burnt the car out in Casarona. So crime spree there. 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: So it's good to have him in custody. 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: So nineteen years old, do you know what he's been 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: charged with off the Topia. 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do so. 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: He's been charged with burglary, damaged to property by four, 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: trespassed by two, interfered with protected wildlife, theft, and arrange 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: of traffic offenses. 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: And he wasn't on bail. Was he known to police? 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: He's known to place, but I don't know whether he's 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: on boo. 29 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'm glad that you've been able to catch 31 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: him in pretty quickly. I mean, you're just like, there's 32 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: a whole like all of that is frustrating, but then animals, 33 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, being run over and being mistreated, I think 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: is just a whole other level and a whole other 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: layer to the whole incident, isn't it. 36 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely it's a really poor behavior and it's great that 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: he's in caustody. 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Peter, we also know well, actually we've been contacted 39 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: by some listeners about a possible sexual assault in Casharina 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon. Do you have any info on that or 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: do you know if that's the case off the Topia 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: notes there. 43 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: I haven't heard of that one, Codie. 44 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, we'll keep it close eye on things. 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: We'll see what we can find out. Is there any 46 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: update when it comes to the watchhouse. I know that 47 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: there been an event last week with certainly with the 48 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: Correction saying that the majority of prisoners that Corrections prisoners 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: have now been taken out of the Northern Territory watch 50 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: House in Palmerston. How are things striking from police perspective? 51 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 3: You're really good at the moment. Corrections has been doing 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: a lot of work in that space. So last Tuesday, 53 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: the sorry not last Yearday, Tuesday week ago, the Correction 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: staff vacated the paras the watchhouse, took seventy two staff 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: prisoners with them and they left some prisoners behind that 56 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: would have normally belonged to them, So we've been looking 57 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: after them for a little while. 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: But Corrections working really hard. 59 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: And right now there's seventy one people in the police 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: watchhouses across the ent, but only thirty nine of them 61 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: belonged to Correction, so that has really cleared up and 62 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: the situation is continuing to be better than what it 63 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: has I mean, does that. 64 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Help you guys in terms of just having a bit 65 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: more space in those watch houses again and when you 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: go out and you arrest people, having somewhere to take 67 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: them straight back to. 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, cody, and that is a really big one. 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: When we were we had all the corrections prisoners and 70 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: sometimes it was over one hundred, so space was at 71 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: a premium and there was lots of prisoners having to 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: move around the facility, and of course the stress on staff, 73 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: the police, the work inside the watch house aren't used 74 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: to dealing with those kind of numbers. So now that 75 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: they're manageable right across the end to things are looking. 76 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: A lot better. 77 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: Peter tell Us, I know there's Over the last week 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: there'd been a couple of prison well custody escapes, I 79 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: guess you would call them. Certainly a twenty one year 80 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: old man who escaped custody. I think it was last 81 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Tuesday evening if I remember my dates correctly. He was 82 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: captured over the course of the weekend, I believe in Darwin. 83 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, doun a bus stop in Malac. 84 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: And we also arrested his girlfriend in relation to her 85 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: assisting him with his escape from custody. 86 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so you reckon she was involved. 87 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a. 88 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: Pre meet arranged and she picked him up and took 89 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: him away from the. 90 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: From the jail, and I mean like there was some 91 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: arjibarju a belt, whether he was dangerous and whether police 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: should have said that he'd been like that he was dangerous. 93 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what did you kind of make of that discussion? 94 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think it was the holding line came from 95 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: the media, so I'm not sure what information they had 96 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: at the time. When you look at him, he had 97 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: no prior convictions. But when you look at digging a 98 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: bit further and look at his heady students. 99 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: Dangerous, yeah, and you know, and obviously wanting to make 100 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: sure that the community remained safe. By the look of things, 101 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: police working as quickly as possible then to try and 102 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: recapture him. That's now happened now. It wasn't the only 103 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: are the only escape was it? Over the last week? 104 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I think there was one in Alice Springs. 105 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: As well, correct, Codie. 106 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: Mostly the same type of thing low from the cottages 107 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: at the present they're so very low security and as 108 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: has happened in the past, they wander away, but once. 109 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: Again picked up pretty quickly. The Fugitive Task. 110 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: Force grabbed the young fellow up in Darwin in Malac. 111 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: So that was yeah, right, that was really good. 112 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: So what had gotten from Alistair? 113 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: Sorry, no, no, sorry. 114 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: The other one. I was going to say, goodness me 115 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: he was bloody, busy, but no where I mix that 116 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: one up. I do apologize. Hey, I want to ask 117 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: you about a domestic violence incident that happened on Saturday, 118 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: because this one sounds incredibly frightening. Northern Territory police ended 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: up arresting this forty four year old male in relation 120 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: to a domestic violence related incident that had occurred in Alowa. Now, 121 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: from what I understand, police members attended the scene and 122 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: while speaking to a witness at the door of the residence, 123 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: observed the offender armed with a crossbow which he was 124 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: aiming at the police. The offender was instructed to drop 125 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: that weapon, at which time he withdrew into the rear 126 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: of the residence. The victim and the witness were able 127 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: to safely exit that residence. That is terrifying stuff for 128 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: everybody involved. 129 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Cody, is an incredibly dangerous situation, especially. 130 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: For the victim and the witness. 131 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: That forty four year old mail attended that house, which 132 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: was his ex partner's house. That was a domestic violence 133 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: incident and to be pointy crossbows at police is dangerous 134 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: for him. 135 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: And for us. 136 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: So it was a dangerous situation but resolved quite quickly 137 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: by police on the site. 138 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: So some really good work. 139 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: But it does seem like the Northern Territory Police are 140 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: having to deal with like a lot of violence and 141 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: in a lot of cases directed at offices as well 142 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: on the ground. I mean, it's a tough element to 143 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: be dealing with on a daily basis, and I know 144 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: that police are trained in that space, but you know, 145 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: like it must be a difficult element to be dealing 146 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: with day in and day out of your jobs. 147 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, Katie, and you know, you we don't 148 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: come to work to be punch in the face or 149 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: to be subjected to any violence. But you note the 150 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: prison numbers are up, so the arrest rates are up, 151 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: and during arrest sometimes you know, police get punched his 152 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: resistance and you know, unfortunately it's part of the job, 153 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: but unacceptable behavior on many occasions. 154 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Hey, I want to ask you about a story that's 155 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: been running in the Northern Territory News. A senior Northern 156 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: Territory barrister has slammed an internal police investigation into the 157 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: unauthorized release of his watchhouse interview. Now it's understood no 158 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: charges are being considered after a month's long investigation into 159 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: the disclosure of CCTV footage of defense lawyer John Tippett, 160 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: who was picked up for drink driving after crashing into 161 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: a parked police car. A police spokesperson claims the video footage, 162 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: which allegedly sent unintentionally by a contracted public servant to 163 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: a private lawyer who was not involved in the case. 164 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: What did this internal investigation find? 165 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: In Layman's terms, basically that that contracted public servant said 166 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: it in error. It's just straight human error, and that 167 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: was the internal investigation. I've read what was said in 168 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: the paper, but at the end of the day, it 169 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: is what it is, and just human error. 170 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people will be scratching their heads, going, 171 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: how on earth can that happen? Like how can the 172 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: public servant end up with that vision? And then can 173 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: it end up being sent on And a lot of 174 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: people will be listening thinking, well, could that happen to me? 175 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 176 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: For sure, from what I know about it, I think 177 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: the footage was part of the an attachment as part 178 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: of the prosecution file. No systems were breached or anything 179 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: like that. No poor behavior or you know, improper behavior. 180 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: It's just unfortunately, just human eerror. 181 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: I mean, do you know if the force could be 182 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: at risk of civil litigation over the situation? 183 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no idea, Katie, But anything's possible. 184 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, has that staff member been reprimanded or what's 185 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: the you know, what's the action now? 186 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: I think that from the internal investigation obviously looking at 187 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: what the systems we have in place, what is normal procedure, 188 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: you know, SAPs, and I think it was just a 189 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: review of that. 190 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, just unintentional. 191 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: To anybody listening this morning, I mean, can you reassure 192 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: the community that something like that's not going to happen again, 193 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: or you know, if somebody is in a situation like 194 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: that where it's not going to happen to them. 195 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: I would like to tell you that that would never 196 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: happen again. But human error. We're all human and sometimes 197 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 3: people make mistakes. I've made more than most, so you. 198 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: Know, well, look it's I think it's an interesting situation 199 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: and I've no doubt there'll be more discussion about it. 200 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, I kind of watched it and thought, 201 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: oh shit, I'd hate to be in a situation where 202 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: when I'd done something wrong, I knew, I knew I'd 203 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: done something wrong. I was already facing you know, the 204 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: aftermath of that, and then all of a sudden, this 205 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: vision ends up being made public as well. You'd be horrified, 206 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: you know, That's how I would feel. 207 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd feel the same, and being filmed and have 208 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: that released in not your finest moment. Yeah, we none 209 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: of us want to be judged you on those terms. 210 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: Well, Acting Assistant Commissioner Peter Maley really appreciate your time 211 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: this morning. Thank you very much for joining us in 212 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: the studio. Thanks Katie, thank you.