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Speaker 1: We know.

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Speaker 2: South Australian Senator Karen Little is currently an Alice Springs

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Speaker 2: meeting with important stakeholders about domestic violence and use crime.

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Speaker 2: The Liberal senator who grew up in Alice Springs is

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Speaker 2: also the Shadow Minister for Child Protection and the Prevention

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Speaker 2: of Family Violence, and she was in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 2: over the weekend for the election. Senator Little joins me

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Speaker 2: on the line right now. Good morning to you, Senator, good.

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Speaker 1: Morning and also to your listeners wherever they are across

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Speaker 1: the territory.

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Speaker 2: Now, what's been the reaction in Central Australia from your

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Speaker 2: perspective to the election over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think just in terms of getting out and

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Speaker 1: about and bumping into people, it's one of reliefs. It's

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Speaker 1: one of reliefs that finally they might get a different

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Speaker 1: response to issues that are important to them around cost

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Speaker 1: of living and crime. So I think certainly on the

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Speaker 1: night I was with the people who were watching the

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Speaker 1: results very closely. They were set me celebration, but I guess,

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Speaker 1: well feeling was feeling was really one of.

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Speaker 2: Relief, and I know that certainly there's been quite a

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Speaker 2: bit of discussion or quite a bit of commentary on

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Speaker 2: a federal scale. Peter dutt And yesterday saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanez, he's really got to get the issues under

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Speaker 2: control when it comes to cost of living in crime,

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Speaker 2: What do you think that the result means on the

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Speaker 2: federal scale. Is this going? Are these issues of crime

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Speaker 2: and also cost of living going to play front and

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Speaker 2: center when we do go to the polls federally.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you've got issues of prime in an area,

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Speaker 1: equally so there are issues of cost of living because

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Speaker 1: you know, we saw over the weekend here in Central

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Speaker 1: Australia some five hundred windows smashed, people's cars vandalized. I

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Speaker 1: just thought met with somebody this morning who they said,

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Speaker 1: you know, he had a huge rock thrown at his car.

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Speaker 1: Luckily it missed. These are the kinds of things that

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Speaker 1: actually impact the cost on people's living. Insurance goes up,

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Speaker 1: people putting more security on their properties go off a

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Speaker 1: let alone, people's well being and feeling of safety. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's not the kind of lifestyle that we should enjoy

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Speaker 1: stray into wherever we live. And so you know, you

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Speaker 1: can't look at cost of living in isolation to issues

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Speaker 1: also that people are dealing with every single day.

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Speaker 2: And I know that you know, the management of those

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Speaker 2: crime and safety issues obviously happens at a state and

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Speaker 2: territory level, but do you think that potentially more does

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Speaker 2: need to be happening on the federal stage too.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of money that also comes from

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Speaker 1: the Commonwealth into territory programs, if we're talking specifically territory.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we've been calling as a coalition for

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Speaker 1: an ordered into those programs that actually look to improve

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Speaker 1: live to make sure that money is spent really effectively

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Speaker 1: and that the programs that are actually getting the funding

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Speaker 1: are actually working. They're reported against, their independ evaluated, there

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Speaker 1: is some level of clinical compliance in the delivery of

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Speaker 1: those services, and they meet minimum expectations around professional standards.

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Speaker 1: There are some very good examples where that doesn't happen,

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Speaker 1: and I want to see improvement on those things because

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Speaker 1: some of the issues that actually contribute to increasing levels

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Speaker 1: of crime, increasing levels domestic violence, and therefore increasing numbers

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Speaker 1: of children in child protection are the kinds of things

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Speaker 1: drug and alcohol services, getting kids into school, actually intervening

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Speaker 1: early to support people. All of those things are really

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Speaker 1: important to prevent an escalation of issues and a further

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Speaker 1: disintegration of families.

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Speaker 2: Communities and Senator when it comes to the issues that

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Speaker 2: we've got in the int around domestic violence. I understand

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Speaker 2: that you've met with or you've had quite a few

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Speaker 2: meetings since being in Central Australia. Tell us who you've

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Speaker 2: met with and what kind of discussions have been happening.

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Speaker 1: Well, Springs is the kind of place where I've met

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Speaker 1: with key organizations like the NPY, with Waxer who provides

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Speaker 1: a shelter for women, and with the local council. I've

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Speaker 1: also got some meetings in more remote areas as I

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Speaker 1: travel down and into South Australia, so you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to keep talking to people. I'm also talking to pastoralists.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody is part of the community. It's not

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Speaker 1: just one section of the community. So as a Senator

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Speaker 1: I'm always thinking about what's the impact regardless of whether

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Speaker 1: we're talking about issues to do with housing, issues to

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Speaker 1: do with education, health, I'm always looking at what's the

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Speaker 1: disproportionate or different impact on a regional center for policies

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Speaker 1: that come out of Canberra, and sadly, what we often

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Speaker 1: see in Canberra is the country gets less behind and

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Speaker 1: even though people living in the country are often the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon It's always a concern, isn't it when

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Speaker 2: you live in regional parts of Australia and then when

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Speaker 2: it becomes quite disconnected. And I suppose you know, while

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Speaker 2: we've obviously got a number of very vocal senators and

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Speaker 2: members of Parliament, like it comes down to our population

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Speaker 2: to I suppose, and not having the same representation as

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Speaker 2: what some of those. You know, some suburbs in New

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Speaker 2: South Wales have greater representation than us, so it feels

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Speaker 2: like we get a bit forgotten sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Well the territory might have a smaller population, but it

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Speaker 1: certainly contributes significantly to our GDP. And you know, wherever

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Speaker 1: you are in Australia, I've always had a position that

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Speaker 1: you know, people are important wherever they live, and ow

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Speaker 1: standards of people being able to go about their business safely,

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Speaker 1: you know, with a decent standard living is relevant wherever

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Speaker 1: you live spot so we need to ensure that in

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Speaker 1: a cost of living crisis where people are watching their money,

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Speaker 1: that people in the countries aren't left behind me because

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Speaker 1: we all know that it's costs more to get around

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Speaker 1: in a country regional rural setting, and those costs are

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Speaker 1: more much greater for people living in the country and

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Speaker 1: we need to be reminded of that. That's something that

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Speaker 1: we certainly raised intermittee in parliamentary processes often and I

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Speaker 1: think sometimes those people in the city who are represented

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Speaker 1: by people often forget.

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Speaker 2: That, Senator before I let you go this morning, I

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Speaker 2: know that alcohol was obviously a really contentious issue in

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Speaker 2: the lead up to the election. Have in terms of

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Speaker 2: what's going on in Central Australia and Dallas Springs, have

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Speaker 2: you had many discussions on the alcohol issues and what

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Speaker 2: do you think needs to happen in an effort to

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Speaker 2: reduce the alcohol related harm that we say.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, in driving around, walking around some of

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Speaker 1: the things that have struck me And I was here

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Speaker 1: about a month ago on holidays, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: say that, you know, the police presence needs to be

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Speaker 1: greater and not outside of bottle shops, just just moving

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Speaker 1: around the township itself and why that's not translating to

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Speaker 1: a greater response on the ground. So, you know, we

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Speaker 1: about making sure that there's a greater presence of community

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Speaker 1: policing and that there are more people getting around. We

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Speaker 1: start feeling those spaces that are public spaces and people

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Speaker 1: are actually safe too, and feeling safe about getting around

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Speaker 1: in public spaces. That's how you make places safer. And

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Speaker 1: I think there are a whole range of issue use

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Speaker 1: that relate to where we see poor behavior and we

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Speaker 1: need to address all of those. It's not just our

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Speaker 1: cohol sun it's just as people who actually behave badly

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Speaker 1: and they continue to behave badly because somebody doesn't say

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Speaker 1: that's not okay. I was. I actually had a discussion

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Speaker 1: and they tried to make it about being an issue

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Speaker 1: of who was playing, and I simply said, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: in Outh Australia, when you go into a football match,

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Speaker 1: people check your bags. You have to have your handgag

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Speaker 1: check when you walk through, So why is that different

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Speaker 1: and why hasn't there been proper planning if there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a large number of people, whomever they are,

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Speaker 1: for an influx of people, that's what's really important. We

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Speaker 1: need to actually consider people as people and respond accordingly

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Speaker 1: to the numbers that are coming in, not to who

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Speaker 1: they are, because people wouldn't have been necessarily drinking. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure if people's bags were checked as they are in

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Speaker 1: many matches in South Australia, as they are in other.

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Speaker 2: Places Queensight, the NL.

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Speaker 1: Implement true at the door.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, spot on. I think it's a good point, very

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Speaker 2: good point to make before I let you go, Senator.

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Speaker 2: Much else on the agenda for you while you're in

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Speaker 2: Alice Springs.

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Speaker 1: No, I've been here for a couple of days now.

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Speaker 1: As I said, I'm heading towards down South. I've got

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Speaker 1: some people that I wanted to meet with in the

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Speaker 1: pastoral industry, So just trying to catch up with as

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Speaker 1: many people as I can to understand how the issues

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Speaker 1: are for them and to be able to talk about

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Speaker 1: those issues in the Parliament and on behalf of people

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Speaker 1: who's actually living at every single day.

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Speaker 2: Well, Karen Little, Senator, South Australian Senator in Alice Springs

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Speaker 2: grew up in Central Australia. Thank you so very much

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Speaker 2: for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you,