Speaker 1: Ash math.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you a band that not only am
Speaker 2: I obsessed with them, my children are obsessed with them.
Speaker 2: We play them every time in the car. Corn Divers
Speaker 2: City Close. Do you want to have a listen?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Can you?
Speaker 3: God silly? Get your hands silly and city hands silly,
Speaker 3: Get your pants silly and Sidney Pants City Shop back.
Speaker 3: Get everybody get down on the floor.
Speaker 2: Ah, that sounds nothing like Corn. Get your kids on
Speaker 2: the Diversity divers City Right, they are the best.
Speaker 4: Kop or Kersey Lepeters for sut is one half of Diversity,
Speaker 4: alongside Matt o'kine.
Speaker 2: That's right. Kope is one of those musicians who has
Speaker 2: been in our ears in ways we didn't even realize.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, that's thirteen thirty thirty two, Matthew.
Speaker 2: We will get into the lubabill later a little bit
Speaker 2: later in the episode, but let's try something a little
Speaker 2: bit more current. By night, Kop is filling out the
Speaker 2: dance floor to incoherent adults and by day stumbling toddlers.
Speaker 1: Two ends of the spectrum but similar in so many ways.
Speaker 2: She juggles this alongside her main gig as Mum to
Speaker 2: see Jenna and Monty with her partner Nick Kop.
Speaker 4: Tells us her secret hiding spot when she needs a
Speaker 4: little bit of a lone time Matthew.
Speaker 2: She also talks about how different her girl's birds were
Speaker 2: and her ongoing dilemma that involves waffle stomping my favorite.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Welcome back to two doting dads
Speaker 2: and one doting mum. I am Maddie Jay, I'm Ash
Speaker 2: and I'm Kop. And this is a podcast all about parenting.
Speaker 2: It is the good, is.
Speaker 1: The bad, and the relatable.
Speaker 2: And we don't give advice. Koorp. You can illegally you
Speaker 2: are allowed, Ash and I are not allowed.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, good to know.
Speaker 2: We've had a few season desist letters by lawyers, so
Speaker 2: for legal reasons, we can't give advice. But guess they are.
Speaker 2: They escape any kind of punishment for sure, legally for sure.
Speaker 1: Welcome. Thank you for coming.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Where are your kids right now?
Speaker 3: I thought you had them? My kids one is in
Speaker 3: year one and one is in daycare? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can I say thank you? Thank because this time is precious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. But I mean my kids have
Speaker 3: been in care for a little while now, kind of
Speaker 3: in daycare from maybe about one year old. So they
Speaker 3: love it. They really do. Like we do have those
Speaker 3: moments where they're like, I don't want to go, et cetera.
Speaker 3: But whenever they're there, they just have so much fun,
Speaker 3: and I feel a lot of pressure to provide them
Speaker 3: that much fun.
Speaker 4: On the weekend, it's no they like you said, they go,
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to that, and then you
Speaker 4: pick them up they're like, that's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're going to go do something boring.
Speaker 2: Obviously, children getting sick at daycare, it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Have you had any situations, Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 3: But very early on with Sienna, we discovered she was
Speaker 3: getting tonsilitis all the time, and I think we went
Speaker 3: to a doctor and he said, her tonsils are just
Speaker 3: a stupid size, like her resting. Healthy tonsil size allowed
Speaker 3: her no space to be like eating, breathing, and if
Speaker 3: they're not getting enough oxygen they can stunt their growth,
Speaker 3: et cetera. So we had her tonsils out when she
Speaker 3: was just under three, which was, yeah, just a whole experience. Again,
Speaker 3: I know, in the greatest scheme of things, it was
Speaker 3: just day surgery, but seeing your child go under for
Speaker 3: the first time, you know, that was very hard. And
Speaker 3: then with Monty, very soon we realized she was getting
Speaker 3: the same thing. Turns out Nick and I have also
Speaker 3: had our tonsils out. Supposedly it's not yeah, but I'm like,
Speaker 3: we've all had it, so we're a totally tonsil free
Speaker 3: family now. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean that was like a really challenging
Speaker 3: time because even with Monty we picked it up straight
Speaker 3: away because we're like, we've been through this before, but
Speaker 3: they don't want to do it to kids that are
Speaker 3: too young. And so I remember the E and T
Speaker 3: just saying no, we're just going to stick it out
Speaker 3: for a year, and we're like, oh, she's going to
Speaker 3: get sick a lot, and I'm just like, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: just what's going to happen. But it was just it
Speaker 3: was really rough. She was sick all the time and
Speaker 3: coughing and sleeping. No, it wasn't that. It would just
Speaker 3: be coughing to try and clear her airways and they
Speaker 3: would just be swollen and red and then they start
Speaker 3: to get scarred, I think from the build up.
Speaker 2: And then what's the recovery post surgery.
Speaker 3: It's the worst. The doctor's explained it as two weeks
Speaker 3: of hell and then overnight it suddenly changes and it
Speaker 3: is like that, it's two weeks of It's really rough
Speaker 3: on the kids because they're just in so much pain
Speaker 3: and you just.
Speaker 2: What do you feed them?
Speaker 3: Ah. Funnily enough, my daughter wanted all the things she
Speaker 3: couldn't have, like crackers, yeah, no corn and crackers that, yeah,
Speaker 3: but yogurt.
Speaker 1: How would they understand an internal injury?
Speaker 4: You know, you know when they know when you're like
Speaker 4: great straight away band aid, I'm her, let just don't get.
Speaker 3: It and yeah, and even going into the surgery and stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, they go under, but when they wake up
Speaker 3: from that general anesthetic, I don't know if you've had
Speaker 3: to deal with that at all, but they're just so
Speaker 3: out of it and that's pretty confronting. Second time around,
Speaker 3: it was way better because we understood the pain management.
Speaker 3: You've just got a pantold europin panold europhine, like just
Speaker 3: one after the other, almost before they want it, and
Speaker 3: so that was a little more bearable. Yeah, So that
Speaker 3: was really challenging because it just felt like every month
Speaker 3: they were sick and then just not breathing, and.
Speaker 1: It's brutal of the whole household.
Speaker 4: When they snore, but it's just a knock on because
Speaker 4: you're up with them.
Speaker 1: Then they're tired, they go to school, they're grumpy.
Speaker 4: You're grumpy. You gotta try and get some rest, and
Speaker 4: it's just this ever go.
Speaker 3: They would wake up with these little bags under their
Speaker 3: eyes because they're just not getting enough oxygen at night
Speaker 3: because they're not sleeping enough. And then as soon as
Speaker 3: the tonsils were out, they're like, you know, waking up happy.
Speaker 1: Changes their speech and everything.
Speaker 3: No, it totally does, Yeah, because when they've got those
Speaker 3: tonsils in their mouth, they can't pronounce things, and then
Speaker 3: when they're removed, their voices.
Speaker 4: A friend of mine's kid was so they thought he
Speaker 4: had really bad learning difficulties because he wasn't talking properly,
Speaker 4: same age as Oscar, he so far behind. And then
Speaker 4: they were like, need tonsils and adenoids out because he
Speaker 4: can't breathe, he's not sleeping properly, he can't talk properly.
Speaker 2: I had no idea this is the thing. And then
Speaker 2: he had them.
Speaker 4: Out and I remember I was walking with lenning up
Speaker 4: to the beach and he was like, uncle.
Speaker 3: WIXI And I was like, yeah, they suddenly can pronounce.
Speaker 4: Different kid altogether, and now he's like leaps and bounds
Speaker 4: where it was like holding him back because he was
Speaker 4: so tired, so cranky all the time, and now he's
Speaker 4: just like hitting goals.
Speaker 2: Like I kind of wish I had my tonsils taken out.
Speaker 1: They're stunting learning.
Speaker 2: Now instead. I just got circumcised.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't had mine out. I haven't had mine.
Speaker 1: Explains a lot, but I'm uncircumcised.
Speaker 2: We always like to know with our guests what you
Speaker 2: were like as a child. Were you well behaved?
Speaker 1: Were youna?
Speaker 2: You seem like someone who would be very well behaved.
Speaker 3: Look, I think it's so boring, but I think I was.
Speaker 3: But I was very determined. I was a good negotiator.
Speaker 3: So I was the type of kid that would go
Speaker 3: to my parents and be like, I'm going to do
Speaker 3: this thing. I'm going to tell you about it, and
Speaker 3: I want you to accept it. But I think I
Speaker 3: was probably. I think I was maybe that way because
Speaker 3: my parents gave us a lot of autonomy, so they
Speaker 3: really encouraged us to like whatever we wanted to do.
Speaker 3: They would really encourage us to be able to do that.
Speaker 2: Do you remember any big pitch that you had to
Speaker 2: go to your parents and be like, we should do
Speaker 2: this thing.
Speaker 3: I mean it was definitely you know, boyfriend related or
Speaker 3: I know I went out to a party and had
Speaker 3: a fake ID but had told my parents. Oh, and
Speaker 3: they were can I.
Speaker 2: Just quickly ask it takes all the fun out of that.
Speaker 2: Everyone always talks about having a fake ID. How did
Speaker 2: you get yours? I never had one.
Speaker 3: There was it. I don't want to name the travel company,
Speaker 3: but there was a travel company that did these like
Speaker 3: student travel cards, and it was quite easy to I'm
Speaker 3: not naming it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get I don't want to because
Speaker 2: we're not young. And we talked about the legal problems
Speaker 2: that this.
Speaker 3: Is also a really long time ago, that it was
Speaker 3: quite easy to do that, and I think my parents
Speaker 3: were of the mindset and I think I'll be like
Speaker 3: this with my kids. It's hard to know where they
Speaker 3: would say, we'd prefer to kind of know. And so
Speaker 3: I was allowed to go, but I had to say
Speaker 3: who I was going with, be back at a certain time,
Speaker 3: so it was controlled. You know, what's what's the word?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What is that say? You just come up with that?
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's the same.
Speaker 3: But I was also so I was.
Speaker 1: That was a trick though when parents were like, rather know.
Speaker 3: Right, I was always like a performer. My dad was
Speaker 3: a musician as well, and I went to a performing
Speaker 3: arts high school. Found myself in a girl group signed
Speaker 3: to Sony when I was thirteen, and so we did
Speaker 3: a lot of traveling around. So I was by myself
Speaker 3: traveling around Australia, being away from my parents. So they
Speaker 3: kind of had no choice but to either give me
Speaker 3: that responsibility and trust me in those situations. So I
Speaker 3: had a lot of responsibility, but I also yeah, I
Speaker 3: wasn't going to fuck it up, you know, that kind
Speaker 3: of governed. I guess who I was as a kid.
Speaker 2: What was that group called? Again?
Speaker 3: It was called Real Blondes. Terrible name, look it up.
Speaker 3: Put in the SoundBite it was it was actually it
Speaker 3: was like, would you prefer to go to school or
Speaker 3: go to school minimally and tour and.
Speaker 2: So we will put a SoundBite in. Is there a
Speaker 2: specific track you would like us to play right now?
Speaker 3: The classic is we Be Cool? Yeah? Do you know
Speaker 3: what it was? Prior the Internet. But then one of
Speaker 3: the parents of one of the girls has since uploaded
Speaker 3: the music videos to you, so you can't. You can
Speaker 3: find them, but there was no like official like YouTube
Speaker 3: wasn't even really a thing. That's how long ago.
Speaker 2: What was we be cool about? What was the premise?
Speaker 3: You know? Oh god, I haven't been able to ask
Speaker 3: to sing this. It was pretty deep some lyrics We
Speaker 3: be smart from our head to our heart cool.
Speaker 4: I know, have you thought about remixing them?
Speaker 1: Because you are a DJ, you do high energy stuff
Speaker 1: that I think we should read the three of us.
Speaker 3: Look, I have other songs now and I didn't write
Speaker 3: that song.
Speaker 2: How was that with other kids at school?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like sometimes people are jealous of success.
Speaker 3: Absolutely and especially teenage girls. So it was this weird
Speaker 3: thing where people were supportive and it was kind of
Speaker 3: cool because I was a little famous for a teenager,
Speaker 3: you know, like get a little bit, you know, not
Speaker 3: a very successful one, but like a little bit. But
Speaker 3: then it ended at six when I was sixteen, so
Speaker 3: we got dropped from our record label and I had
Speaker 3: to go back and just be a normal kid at school.
Speaker 1: So it was heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: It was because I thought I was going to be
Speaker 3: the Spice Girls, and I wasn't Luckily I had a
Speaker 3: dad that was in music, so he explained, you know,
Speaker 3: this is one of the many times that I thought
Speaker 3: it was a failure, and he was like, it's not
Speaker 3: a failure. You're going to be in so many bands.
Speaker 3: You're going to be in so many things. And I
Speaker 3: think I got a really thick skin and huge resilience
Speaker 3: because I just had to go back to school. People
Speaker 3: would kind of make fun of it.
Speaker 2: Did they know they wouldn't know you got dropped or do.
Speaker 3: People kind of yeah, it kind of ended no, no,
Speaker 3: because we weren't that famous, it wasn't that that successful.
Speaker 3: But I was just back to being a regular kid.
Speaker 3: But I had the choice of either letting that destroy
Speaker 3: me or being able to sit there and laugh at
Speaker 3: them making fun of the situation. So I actually see
Speaker 3: that whole period as being like a really big blessing
Speaker 3: because I think it set me up for being quite tough.
Speaker 2: Bit of resilience. Yeah, your dad is being he's been
Speaker 2: quite wise in your corner, but he's also told you
Speaker 2: into a few jobs as well. There's one that I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people listening.
Speaker 1: With you remember is not where that comes to mind.
Speaker 2: And I'm just going to say thirteen thirty thirty two.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I peaked really young.
Speaker 2: Yeo.
Speaker 1: I don't actually.
Speaker 3: Remember how old I was, And I can't take full
Speaker 3: credit because it was my brother that had He was
Speaker 3: a few years younger than me, and he had the
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a list, but you know the thirty
Speaker 3: three that was my brother. I think I was like
Speaker 3: there they fixed the car and he had the firth further.
Speaker 3: But yeah, my dad was a songwriter, but then he
Speaker 3: also wrote TV jingles. So that's why I've always come
Speaker 3: from like a songwriting point of background.
Speaker 4: Like a cool claim to have here in Australia because
Speaker 4: it's like everyone knows that.
Speaker 3: Everyone knows it. Yeah, there's a few famous ones, but
Speaker 3: we would like honestly come home from school and just
Speaker 3: hang out in the studio. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 3: it's airing now, and I think I need to ask
Speaker 3: my dad. But I think the laws were different, or
Speaker 3: the rules were different as to you know, you just
Speaker 3: get paid a fee as opposed to being like a
Speaker 3: writer and getting like real I think it was different
Speaker 3: back then.
Speaker 2: I once did a tampon ad and and that ran
Speaker 2: for almost two years.
Speaker 1: As a child.
Speaker 2: No, I was how would that one?
Speaker 4: I don't know, like, Mom, what's wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll think about that, we'll think about the logistics.
Speaker 2: And I used to get phone calls whether they'd say like,
Speaker 2: oh it's now gone to New Zealand.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, And you would get royalties off that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was living off this tampon a good money. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was great money.
Speaker 1: My friend who was the VEGGIEMI kid kid.
Speaker 2: Is that how you met Nick?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 2: Through working in music?
Speaker 3: Yes, through working in music, but that was through DJing
Speaker 3: and for me the nightclub it was actually uh Cargo Bar,
Speaker 3: famous nightclub, Unaware, but he was a little bit younger
Speaker 3: than me and I, you know, had some rules of things,
Speaker 3: you know, people I weren't going to date and DJs
Speaker 3: was like top on the list, but I think he
Speaker 3: saw that as a challenge. But yeah, we just met
Speaker 3: through DJing in clubs. This is even really before I
Speaker 3: was kind of k RP and.
Speaker 2: He was he DJing or U DJ.
Speaker 3: We're both DJ, well just his name. But then he's
Speaker 3: in Setmo a band as well now, but he's also
Speaker 3: now in the fitness industry, so he's had a little
Speaker 3: bit of a pivot away from music.
Speaker 2: Personal trainers on that list as well of people you
Speaker 2: wouldn't danger.
Speaker 3: They probably would have been higher so he can stick around,
Speaker 3: but yeah, we just can't. We knew each other from
Speaker 3: the DJ scene and then a mutual friend of ours,
Speaker 3: you know, we're kind of all friends, and then it
Speaker 3: just slowly happened.
Speaker 1: Was there a big first date or was it just
Speaker 1: it just.
Speaker 3: No, It was definitely me even saying to his face,
Speaker 3: this is not going to happen.
Speaker 2: And then he was trying then for you to say
Speaker 2: this is not going to happen with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think I was also not his type.
Speaker 3: But I think it was definitely one of those things
Speaker 3: where neither of us thought it was going to be serious,
Speaker 3: and then we suddenly found ourselves in a situation where
Speaker 3: we were like.
Speaker 2: Fuck, we love each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah yeah, and now we've been to
Speaker 3: yeah that's coming up on thirteen years.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah crazy?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, congratulations, Yeah, why what's the secret?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 3: It's like this is going to it's not funny at all,
Speaker 3: but like repair from issues. We're really good at discussing issues,
Speaker 3: recognizing what they are, but they're not just saying, oh,
Speaker 3: that was shit. Let's not do that again, actually saying
Speaker 3: how can we avoid it happening again? And it's just
Speaker 3: an ongoing thing, like it just comes up all the time,
Speaker 3: especially when you've got kids. I remember my dad once
Speaker 3: saying having kids is like throwing a grenade into a relationship,
Speaker 3: and I was like, ha ha, And then you have it,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god. Yeah, so just that idea
Speaker 3: of you just constantly having to like work at it
Speaker 3: and then repair and like work at it and repair.
Speaker 2: It's funny, becau. Laura and I had a big fight
Speaker 2: last night. Fun So I've got some repairing to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like repair is the best part and it can
Speaker 3: actually make things better.
Speaker 4: And yeah, totally because you can be like, hey, I
Speaker 4: didn't actually like that and like, how can we avoid
Speaker 4: that from happening again?
Speaker 1: Yeah, not just me, but you like together.
Speaker 3: You've got to find practical ways to do that. Sometimes hard,
Speaker 3: but yeah, like sometimes it's hard to figure out as well.
Speaker 2: And if you're.
Speaker 3: Tired and you're you know, over stimulated from kids or whatever.
Speaker 3: It's just.
Speaker 2: With Nick, I don't want to stereotype, okay, but he's
Speaker 2: younger than you. He's a DJ I imagine that again.
Speaker 2: Stereotyping having kids is not top of his list of
Speaker 2: things to do.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing about Nick. When we first the
Speaker 3: first time, we kind of saw each other in the
Speaker 3: light of like, oh hello, because we knew each other
Speaker 3: in the nightclub. He said something like, oh, we should
Speaker 3: hang out, and I was like, I don't get picked
Speaker 3: up in cargo bar, like you can call me in
Speaker 3: the am. He did. He called me the next morning
Speaker 3: and he said, Hey, I'm just on my way to yoga.
Speaker 3: Do you want to meet me afterwards? And I was
Speaker 3: intrigued because he's very much live life to the fullest.
Speaker 3: So he will run a marathon. He will then stay
Speaker 3: up all night DJing or dancing. He'll eat burgers, then
Speaker 3: he'll eat really healthily, like he's just this real. He
Speaker 3: does things in all extremes, but the good and the
Speaker 3: hard parts. So yeah, he he really throws these curve
Speaker 3: balls out there where he's like, I'm going to do yoga.
Speaker 3: But then I'm a DJ and I'm younger, but I'm reliable.
Speaker 2: So how did you respond to the yoga statement?
Speaker 3: Well, I was intrigued. It worked. I went to meet
Speaker 3: him for coffee. Yeah, ok, yeah, so he had yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So no, it just and all through our relationship, like
Speaker 3: we kind of started seeing each other and I knew
Speaker 3: he was about to go overseas for a Bucks weekend
Speaker 3: or week in Fither.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's intense exactly.
Speaker 3: So in my mind, I thought, well, this has an
Speaker 3: end date, because you know, there's no way we're going
Speaker 3: to stay together throughout that. And I was fine with it.
Speaker 3: But then he turned up on my doorstep one day
Speaker 3: before he was about to leave and he said something like,
Speaker 3: I want to lock this shit down with some flowers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's the thing. But he's he's not perfect all
Speaker 3: the time, let me tell but he's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Let's just preface that a very beautiful.
Speaker 3: This is too much love for Nick, very mature.
Speaker 2: He's actually doing wonders to repair the image of DJs
Speaker 2: around the world.
Speaker 3: Honestly, especially the Aussie one. So we're going to I
Speaker 3: have a whole other podcast.
Speaker 2: It's hard to decide when is the right time to
Speaker 2: have kids. I remember with Laura we were like, this
Speaker 2: is going to just it's the grenade, you know, with work,
Speaker 2: especially career wise, nothing's going to disrupt that more than
Speaker 2: having kids. Being in the music industry, it's very difficult.
Speaker 2: It's not a conducive industry to raise a family. So
Speaker 2: when did you decide that it was the right time.
Speaker 3: I remember when I turned thirty one, I suddenly thought, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is something that I want to happen in the
Speaker 3: next few years. And I knew that he wanted kids
Speaker 3: to we had talked about it, but I kind of
Speaker 3: went to him and said, this is something that is
Speaker 3: in my next few years trajectory. Just go away and
Speaker 3: have a think about that. And he was like, okay,
Speaker 3: freaking out, but then he came back and he was like,
Speaker 3: I'm ready, now let's go, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm not. So it was just a very planned out thing.
Speaker 3: Like we weren't planning on getting married. It was always
Speaker 3: have kids that was more important to us. Yes, it
Speaker 3: was just like a very planned thing.
Speaker 2: The birth of Siena, your first was that very planned.
Speaker 2: Did you have a birthing plan in place that you
Speaker 2: had to follow.
Speaker 3: I mean I think everyone has a birthing plan, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know anyone really that the plan has actually
Speaker 3: been played out. We went through all the things and
Speaker 3: we tried to be in the midwife you know program
Speaker 3: et cetera. And then Siena had her own little plan,
Speaker 3: so she was breach. I had low amniotic fluid reach
Speaker 3: again around the wrong way, so it's meant to be
Speaker 3: head down.
Speaker 1: How early did you find that out?
Speaker 3: Well, they wait until the thirty seven week scan. This
Speaker 3: is also this could be incorrect. Now, this is what
Speaker 3: happened with me. They waited until the thirty seven week
Speaker 3: scan because they're then too big to turn around again.
Speaker 3: Up until that stage, they can flip all the time.
Speaker 3: So thirty seven week scan, we went in and they said,
Speaker 3: she's breach. You've also got low amniotic flow, so she's
Speaker 3: swimming in like a very shallow pool. So they were
Speaker 3: kind of watching her, and they said, even if you
Speaker 3: go into labor, it's a sea section, Like there's just
Speaker 3: no way, too high risk, too high risk, So we
Speaker 3: knew it was going to be a sea section. And
Speaker 3: I definitely felt a little bit ripped off at that choice,
Speaker 3: you know, like I almost feel like it's weird saying
Speaker 3: choice because it's put to you, like you have this choice,
Speaker 3: but I feel like the body just decides for you.
Speaker 3: But at the time I felt a little bit ripped off.
Speaker 3: But looking back now, the planned sea section was a
Speaker 3: dream for me.
Speaker 2: It was Why was that?
Speaker 3: Because you had a time you went in. I had
Speaker 3: like a little bit of makeup on my hair, was nice.
Speaker 3: We had these photos of Nick and I, you know,
Speaker 3: doing peace signs, like in the waiting room you go in.
Speaker 3: It's all very controlled. I swear Sienna just would have
Speaker 3: been snoozing in there and they just pluck her out.
Speaker 2: Do you have music playing? Did you do you get
Speaker 2: to decide to play.
Speaker 3: It on repeat? No? I can't even remember that, but
Speaker 3: I just it was such a chilled experience. Was very quick,
Speaker 3: even the scar. I think, you know, because you're not
Speaker 3: in labor. The cut was very simple for me, whereas
Speaker 3: my second child, I attempted a v back out because
Speaker 3: vaginal birth after caesarean v BA. Yeah, so if you
Speaker 3: haven't had a caesarean because of complications with going into labor,
Speaker 3: like for me, we don't. We didn't know at the
Speaker 3: time if my body could go into labor. So I'm
Speaker 3: allowed to try it, but there's there's different risks because
Speaker 3: my uteruses being cut, so they can't induce you, et cetera,
Speaker 3: because it can rupture so and they won't let you
Speaker 3: try it after a certain amount of weeks, et cetera.
Speaker 3: So there were different restrictions to it, but I want
Speaker 3: to give it a go because I wanted to experience labor. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I did, and after a little bit, I was like,
Speaker 3: this is how long.
Speaker 1: Did you do it? Look?
Speaker 3: Hours? But then I had complications because my waters didn't
Speaker 3: break properly. They then had to break the waters and
Speaker 3: then it was an emergency sea section. And the emergency
Speaker 3: sea section over a planned one was a whole different
Speaker 3: experience for me. Yeah, and there were just a few
Speaker 3: little complications in the greatest scheme of things, and just
Speaker 3: from what I know from my friends and things, it
Speaker 3: was still fairly chill. But that compared to the planned one.
Speaker 3: I look back and I'm like, damn, I should have
Speaker 3: just done planned again.
Speaker 4: It is like we've we've had both as well. And yeah,
Speaker 4: that plan one, it's like checking do you have a
Speaker 4: C section?
Speaker 1: Is that a joke?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really funny, but yeah, it's like checking into
Speaker 4: a hotel and you come out with a baby like
Speaker 4: four days.
Speaker 1: That, to excuse my co hosts thinks is really fun.
Speaker 2: You didn't pass out, did you.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about it.
Speaker 3: They did tell me this story when I was having
Speaker 3: the epidural. They were like, dads sometimes pass out, so
Speaker 3: they made me.
Speaker 1: I'm anything about it anyone, because I keep get in
Speaker 1: trouble for talking about it. Yes, yeah, no, how was
Speaker 1: your husband doing it? Though?
Speaker 3: He was fine? I mean he gets really scared at
Speaker 3: needles and things, so I think if they didn't keep
Speaker 3: him out of the room, he maybe would have passed
Speaker 3: out like you, but he was, he was fine. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's would be such a weird experience for the dads,
Speaker 3: I think just seeing their partner and feeling a little
Speaker 3: bit helpless. I don't know, not knowing what to do.
Speaker 2: Tough for dads, and tough that seems really uncomfortable than women.
Speaker 3: But I'm just recognizing that. Like I think if I
Speaker 3: was in that position, like what can I do?
Speaker 4: And that planned one where you're like you both went in,
Speaker 4: you be getting photos and stuff like that, and at
Speaker 4: some point it's like, all right, guys, we need to
Speaker 4: be serious. And then you're kind of in your scrubs
Speaker 4: and getting prepped for surgery and you're right.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I'm like, it's a fucking
Speaker 1: weird morning. Yeah, we just had breakfast.
Speaker 3: Nick, hold your hand, is he no, because you're you've
Speaker 3: got your hands like one arm is strapped down because
Speaker 3: it's got the drip, right, and I think he was
Speaker 3: maybe holding that one or the other one. You can move, yeah,
Speaker 3: but you're like numb from here down, so you can't
Speaker 3: move from there down. Second time, when it was the
Speaker 3: emergency C section, because I had been in labor when
Speaker 3: they gave me the epidural, Oh, it was horrible. I
Speaker 3: was then like vomiting all over myself and kind of
Speaker 3: passing out and yeah, so that was horrible because I
Speaker 3: think it's just different again to that controlled environment of
Speaker 3: having the epidural and yeah, I think you're having contractions and.
Speaker 2: The option of not vomiting on your else. Yeah, can
Speaker 2: we see those photos?
Speaker 3: Oh man, it was But also I don't know, looking
Speaker 3: back on it all, it just seems almost irrelevant to
Speaker 3: all the other things your face as a parent, Like
Speaker 3: that's just this started line.
Speaker 1: You get vomited on and then involed on yourself, someone
Speaker 1: else's ship vomented on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No one talks about the amount of body fluids that
Speaker 3: you deal with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's relentless, like you you might as well throw
Speaker 4: your wardrobe out because you just get covered in.
Speaker 3: Like we know, tired. I was really in fashion when
Speaker 3: I had Sienna, and I was just walking around in
Speaker 3: tied I shirts because it would disguise a baby bomb.
Speaker 3: Hot tip.
Speaker 2: Parents out there. Did you have any set plan on
Speaker 2: when you would start returning to work and DJing.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think for multiple reasons. First being, I worked
Speaker 3: for myself, so I didn't have much Mattley, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think at the time it was less. It
Speaker 3: was twelve weeks or something. I think it's more now,
Speaker 3: so I needed to financially. But then I was really
Speaker 3: determined to prove myself because you give up so much
Speaker 3: of your identity when you have kids that I was
Speaker 3: just desperate to keep functioning as Kop and you still
Speaker 3: exist in that way. So it was, yeah, a bit
Speaker 3: of a combo of the two.
Speaker 2: How soon was your first gig?
Speaker 3: I think it was about four months, yeah, and so
Speaker 3: I did a tour around Australia where I took Sienna
Speaker 3: and everywhere I would go, I would take my mum
Speaker 3: or a different friend. I would feed her in the
Speaker 3: hotel room, go out, play a club, come back, feed her,
Speaker 3: go to sleep. It wasn't that far off the shitty
Speaker 3: sleep schedule of having a few months old. Anywhere, it's
Speaker 3: kind of the same. You may as well go play
Speaker 3: a nightclub.
Speaker 2: Would you request, like an early set? Do I have
Speaker 2: to play?
Speaker 3: Are you going to be awake all night? Anyway? Sleep?
Speaker 3: For me, going out and doing that for an hour
Speaker 3: was just like refreshing.
Speaker 2: It would have been strange because when you have your
Speaker 2: first child, you're kind of embracing this new image that
Speaker 2: you have. Here are now mother, You're a parent, and
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you can't go into a club and be like,
Speaker 2: hey everyone, I'm a mom now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I struggled with that a little bit. I
Speaker 3: feel like Hannah Montana a lot of the time, especially
Speaker 3: when I'm going into a club and I'm with these
Speaker 3: young eighteen year olds and I'm like, I could be
Speaker 3: your mother. But yeah.
Speaker 2: I also just expressed and fed my.
Speaker 3: Child, yeah, like, And I almost wish I'd documented it
Speaker 3: a little bit more, but again, I was trying to
Speaker 3: maintain my identity as kop so like, I started a
Speaker 3: separate Instagram account that does have the mom's side a
Speaker 3: little bit more, and I could express that a little
Speaker 3: bit more online and separate it because I didn't want
Speaker 3: to alienate the ravers. Yeah you know, okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So I mean it's they think it's cute, and they
Speaker 3: would say, oh, techno, mum, et cetera, which is cute.
Speaker 3: But then after a while you just want to be
Speaker 3: able to relate because I feel like it's just almost
Speaker 3: a decision that I have to make constantly of do
Speaker 3: you look after like what comes first? No, prioritizing your
Speaker 3: kids or prioritizing me time. And it's just this constant
Speaker 3: battle that I think parents, but in particular Mum's face
Speaker 3: of giving themselves permission to say no, I need to
Speaker 3: do this and this comes first. So I guess that's
Speaker 3: just I mean, at the start, it's such a challenge.
Speaker 3: Now I think I'm a little bit better at it.
Speaker 3: Like even just the other day, Nick was out for
Speaker 3: a run because he's always running his new thing now,
Speaker 3: and he kind of got back and we were going
Speaker 3: to a family thing and there wasn't enough time for
Speaker 3: me to go and exercise, and I was like, I
Speaker 3: really need to do something just for my body, but
Speaker 3: my sanity. I either do that and I miss out
Speaker 3: on doing this family thing, like which one do I do,
Speaker 3: And in the moment, I was like, I need to
Speaker 3: just go and do this for myself and just having
Speaker 3: to kind of make that decision. And I see it
Speaker 3: all the time with friends where they don't do that
Speaker 3: and then it's just so detrimental to their body and mind,
Speaker 3: and it's just like a constant thing that you have
Speaker 3: to make that.
Speaker 2: Choice, and then the parent guilt afterwards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we told.
Speaker 4: A lot about you got to fill your own cup. Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: we talk about filling their cup so much. And I
Speaker 4: see with April, like April gets so guilty when she
Speaker 4: puts herself first, and you're putting yourself first is actually
Speaker 4: really helping us because like you're revitalized, you're full of endorphins,
Speaker 4: you're doing your thing, and the kids they pick up
Speaker 4: that energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well yeah, I'm a better parent when I do that.
Speaker 3: But it's also I think I heard this somewhere probably
Speaker 3: on a podcast setting an example of like, first of all,
Speaker 3: I like my job, so like I like working and
Speaker 3: I feel I'm lucky that I do like my job,
Speaker 3: but that I will put myself first and say to
Speaker 3: my kids, and I know this is really hard, but
Speaker 3: like I need to do this, and when you're grown up,
Speaker 3: I hope that you prioritize the things that you need
Speaker 3: to do, even if that's like a little hard in
Speaker 3: the moment, but it's just it gets a little bit easier,
Speaker 3: but it's just hard. It's hard to do that all
Speaker 3: the time. The parent guilt is just crazy.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some reason for while we have that
Speaker 2: in our brains, like fuck off guilt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if you didn't, if you could just
Speaker 4: go and do your thing without any guilt, you're kind
Speaker 4: of dehumanized the whole thing a little bit. You're gonna
Speaker 4: I guess some sort of you know, am I doing
Speaker 4: the right thing? But I think, like I said, if
Speaker 4: you're at that level, you're setting an example that you
Speaker 4: can be. You love your job, you are in you know,
Speaker 4: you're happier mom, you your energy is really high.
Speaker 3: They'll pick up. And Nick is actually, to his credit,
Speaker 3: he's always been very encouraging that. Like when we agree
Speaker 3: we're going to have kids, I remember writing it down.
Speaker 3: We had these little agreements, and we had agreements we're
Speaker 3: going to save up extra money for maternity leave, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Because we didn't have much and I was very much.
Speaker 3: It's fifty to fifty on everything, you know, down to
Speaker 3: the hour at times. And he would be very encouraging
Speaker 3: if he'd gone out and done something, or he'd played
Speaker 3: a show or he'd been out with his mates, he'd
Speaker 3: say you go, like, go do it, and he'd say
Speaker 3: I would go. And I remember one time I was
Speaker 3: like I had one up my sleeve, you know, I
Speaker 3: could go do something. And I took myself to Broadway
Speaker 3: Camart because it was open like really long hours, just
Speaker 3: because I needed to go somewhere, and I was just like,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep making the decision and I
Speaker 3: just walked around. It's actually amazing.
Speaker 1: Was it like Akon and Ie and.
Speaker 3: Just wandering around? It's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Without a kid. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just had a long period of child free times. Yes,
Speaker 2: shout out that came out opening to like ten pm.
Speaker 2: Parent came out like did you guys buy something the
Speaker 2: parents just walking around?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you take san gigs?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No? No big headphones.
Speaker 3: Yes. But when it was a festival it was at
Speaker 3: five pm or something.
Speaker 1: It's obviously a very different. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she came to a few gigs and then
Speaker 3: she's been on stage a few times, and then now
Speaker 3: that I have a kid's project as well, she insists
Speaker 3: on coming on stage. So it's yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4: It was obviously like Fisher, for example, has A has Bobby.
Speaker 4: I was at a Fisher concert and he's got a
Speaker 4: big picture of Bobby.
Speaker 1: In front of him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when he plays and it's like proud dad,
Speaker 4: and then he's just got all these eighteen year olds
Speaker 4: in front of him, just like going nuts.
Speaker 3: And I do love that he talks about that so much.
Speaker 3: It's very different for a woman totally.
Speaker 1: Like I would.
Speaker 3: Honestly like when we first had kids. We would turn
Speaker 3: up somewhere and Nick would be there with me. It'd
Speaker 3: be my show, and people would say to him, oh,
Speaker 3: congrats on the new song or congrats on this, and
Speaker 3: then to me they'd say, who's got the baby, and
Speaker 3: that would be the question.
Speaker 2: Or you know, they'd be it is yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Or they'd be like an interview thing or I remember
Speaker 3: there was this one panel and I think he was
Speaker 3: asked to talk on this panel about his music, and
Speaker 3: I was asked to talk on it about being a
Speaker 3: woman and being a mom, et cetera. So that's the
Speaker 3: whole thing. It's like, I think women want to lean
Speaker 3: into it as much as say Fisher does, but we're
Speaker 3: also trying to maintain that or hold onto our identity
Speaker 3: away from being a mum, because we don't want to
Speaker 3: just be defined by that. So yeah, I mean I
Speaker 3: love that he does.
Speaker 2: That, though the double standards. For Fisher, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's so sweet and endearing, and then for a female performer,
Speaker 2: they'd be like, you should be at home, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: should be home and reading them bedtime stories.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's I mean, it's also why we started
Speaker 3: Diversity because that was an outlet that I could actually
Speaker 3: involve my kids in and they could come to the shows.
Speaker 3: The songs could be directed at them, written about them,
Speaker 3: written for them. So it was very different. And I
Speaker 3: guess that's a good thing about music is you can
Speaker 3: write all styles and there's different audiences for every type
Speaker 3: of music. So and luckily I now have daycare and school,
Speaker 3: so I have lots of time so I can make
Speaker 3: different musical projects.
Speaker 2: I got introduced to Diversity, and for any parents out
Speaker 2: there who haven't listened to Diversity, it is fucking amazing.
Speaker 2: Madow Kine invited me to twenty your gigs and I
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm sure whatever Matt's involved in
Speaker 2: is going to be good. But I was like, I
Speaker 2: hadn't taken Marley. This is a few years ago now,
Speaker 2: I hadn't taken her to any gigs before, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if you'll like it. Played
Speaker 2: her a few songs beforehand, and she kind of enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: But we went to I think those are the Comedy
Speaker 2: Club and Siddy and she was obsessed and she is
Speaker 2: going to be so annoyed that you're here in the
Speaker 2: house right now and she's not around with performing gigs
Speaker 2: to young kids. Did you love it straight away?
Speaker 3: Yes? So, I mean we started Diversity in COVID because
Speaker 3: Matt and I had kids five days apart and we
Speaker 3: both weren't working. You're just singing these stupid songs your
Speaker 3: kids to try and get them to do things, and
Speaker 3: I think just threw us chatting because we were good mates.
Speaker 3: The idea kind of came up and we eventually did
Speaker 3: an album, and we were never really even planning on
Speaker 3: doing shows, but then we just thought it would be
Speaker 3: fun to try out, and after the first show, we
Speaker 3: were both hooked because it's like a cleanse of your ego.
Speaker 3: Any you know, he's a serious actor now besides the
Speaker 3: comedy stuff you know in TV shows, etc. And movies.
Speaker 3: And I'm you know, doing this DJ thing where you're
Speaker 3: trying to write music that's going to get played on
Speaker 3: the radio, and then you get up on stage and
Speaker 3: you just say something like who loves cows, like.
Speaker 5: The dumbest stuff, and the kids are so hyped, and
Speaker 5: it's just refreshing because the stupider you are, the better
Speaker 5: they and it's just the kids love it.
Speaker 3: But then you can also throw in these comments and
Speaker 3: this is where Matt is so good, where you like,
Speaker 3: we do this one bit where we at the very
Speaker 3: end of the show, we've got a song called Dance Silly,
Speaker 3: and we say, you know, the kids have been dancing
Speaker 3: really well, but the grown nuts have been letting the
Speaker 3: team down. And so we get the kids to go
Speaker 3: and get their grown up and then we get them
Speaker 3: to get all of their silliness out of them, and
Speaker 3: then we're going to say a magic word and go one, two, three,
Speaker 3: put their silliness into the grown up and then we
Speaker 3: dance to dance Silly. And so we do this bit
Speaker 3: where I'm like, Okay, Matt, we need a magic word.
Speaker 3: What's a magic word that's going to get grown ups
Speaker 3: really excited? And he goes, oh, no taxes. Everyone's in
Speaker 3: bed at seven o'clock. Like you can throw in these
Speaker 3: things that go over the kids' heads that the parents
Speaker 3: like and it's just really fun. So yeah, we just
Speaker 3: did a run of shows and we did them at
Speaker 3: bowling clubs. I don't know if you have a local
Speaker 3: bowling club you go to, but the kids being able
Speaker 3: to dance and then the parents being able to have
Speaker 3: a beer.
Speaker 4: Ah, is the best part about parenting when you can
Speaker 4: all get together at a pub and the kids can
Speaker 4: be like, do it being entertained in some capacity?
Speaker 1: Yes, you're watching those parents out there going you take
Speaker 1: you care to a pub and then you're there with
Speaker 1: your mates just like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we do the work for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very smart.
Speaker 3: It's just so fun, is it?
Speaker 2: When you're writing songs, do you is it the same
Speaker 2: hat or do you kind of trans from like remove
Speaker 2: yourself from kop and then put your diversity hat on
Speaker 2: because you're like, I'm not writing now for these eighteen
Speaker 2: year old ravers. I'm writing for five year old Ravers
Speaker 2: or is it the same process.
Speaker 3: It's the same process as far as just trying to
Speaker 3: make something that feels good because I try and just
Speaker 3: really tap into that. Now the older I get writing songs,
Speaker 3: but it's totally different because you're writing about I mean,
Speaker 3: we have a song about a sad piece of spaghetti
Speaker 3: that gets left in the.
Speaker 2: It's a classic.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like nothing's really you can make a
Speaker 4: song about anything with the kids really, and that our.
Speaker 3: Songs start from voice memos where one of us will
Speaker 3: voice memo that's I've got this idea. So if you've
Speaker 3: ever got ideas.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, picture to me. Do we want to
Speaker 2: get Kope to sign any legal letters before we piss
Speaker 2: this song?
Speaker 1: I don't know that worried about it.
Speaker 4: If you make this song and I have nothing to
Speaker 4: do with it, I'll be happy. Okay, it's out not
Speaker 4: drinking the bath water. Oh yes, So we went to Bali,
Speaker 4: my kid's bath. The whole time over there, we didn't bath,
Speaker 4: and we washed them down. We showered so that they
Speaker 4: didn't drink the bath water because you know how that ends.
Speaker 4: And then as soon as we got back the first bath,
Speaker 4: I walked back in and makes you sucking on the washer.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's all I could hear.
Speaker 4: It was like I don't drink, and I'm like everybody
Speaker 4: is having that argument to just not.
Speaker 1: Drink the bathroom.
Speaker 3: But you can make that funny. That's the beauty of
Speaker 3: writing kids music. So it's and the way it would
Speaker 3: kind of work is Matt usually comes up with something
Speaker 3: like that, or I tell him an idea like that,
Speaker 3: he makes it really funny, and then I'd say, maybe
Speaker 3: not that funny if he's putting in the boundaries, and
Speaker 3: then make the music.
Speaker 1: Because you drink the bath water, you'd get the ships.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, love Pooh, I mean we do. We don't
Speaker 3: actually talk about Pooh yet. Maybe this is an undert.
Speaker 3: We do have one about going to the toilet, yes,
Speaker 3: and we do have personal we have there's a favorite
Speaker 3: line of Matts. He goes it's like all my hardy people,
Speaker 3: Oh what is it? All my hardy people, all my
Speaker 3: arty people, all my farty uh something, all my party people,
Speaker 3: all my there's some kind of farting. Yeah.
Speaker 4: One time Maci did it was kind of like a
Speaker 4: coffee reaction but with bath water. Yeah, and she took
Speaker 4: up of bath water and shot the bath immediately, like
Speaker 4: it just got to her and it was like they
Speaker 4: thought it was fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1: I had to clean it up.
Speaker 4: I'm in there up to here in the bath, like
Speaker 4: get ship out of the bath.
Speaker 1: They love that ship.
Speaker 2: One thing that you guys are talking about before we
Speaker 2: started recording was waffle stomp.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's not a diversity song, but it could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's disgusting.
Speaker 3: So here's the setting. The kid is in the bath
Speaker 3: or the shower, Yeah, and they do poo and it's
Speaker 3: the first time this has happened. No one teaches you
Speaker 3: the correct way to remove the poo, and it's kind
Speaker 3: of going down the drain a little bit, and you're
Speaker 3: like kick it up or do I if it's kind
Speaker 3: of going down, do you stomp it down? That's a
Speaker 3: waffle stump. That was my I just remember kind of
Speaker 3: laughing then also going well your barefoot No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I think no, not.
Speaker 1: You're in the shower on barefoot. I mean yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: I maybe just like got a glove and was doing
Speaker 3: it with a glove or something. But that's the thing,
Speaker 3: like what you just don't get taught those kind of things.
Speaker 1: Well, when Macy did.
Speaker 4: A poo in the bath, I think it took a
Speaker 4: photo and sentence to you. It was so hard that
Speaker 4: it wouldn't waffle stumps. I had to pick it up.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's better if you can just pick it up.
Speaker 3: But I think maybe the first time it happened, it
Speaker 3: was separating everywhere, and then I was like, I can't
Speaker 3: pick that up.
Speaker 1: Separate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was a kind of funny, funny challenge
Speaker 3: that at the time was stressful, but then after the fact,
Speaker 3: I was like, that is just such a bizarre thing
Speaker 3: that you have to deal with.
Speaker 4: Laura and I were talking about wafflestomping when You're away
Speaker 4: and we were just like, how did someone just come
Speaker 4: up with that word wafflestop?
Speaker 3: Nick told me the word. I didn't know. I was
Speaker 3: just explaining what I did, and he was like, you're, yeah, great.
Speaker 2: That could be a song the Waffleston do the wafflestock.
Speaker 1: What do the drop would be like on that.
Speaker 3: It'd be like something, don't drink their bath water. Don't
Speaker 3: drink their bath.
Speaker 2: If you haven't listened to any diversity. And I'm not
Speaker 2: just saying this and being polite because kop is in
Speaker 2: front of me. It is amazing, It is so so
Speaker 2: good we've been. There was a while there where I
Speaker 2: was I was following you to a lot of gigs.
Speaker 1: I love me.
Speaker 2: I were both like, it's sorry about that.
Speaker 3: I mean, we write the music for grown ups and
Speaker 3: little kids, because I think that was the other reason
Speaker 3: why we started it is I just couldn't listen to
Speaker 3: the same kids music over and over again.
Speaker 1: It was faced with a couple of beers, old dance
Speaker 1: or anything so great.
Speaker 3: I recommend Weekend Baby is a starting point for you.
Speaker 1: Sweet that sounds that sounds like me? Weekend Baby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did cry a lot on the weekend anyway.
Speaker 2: Moving Is there anything that Marley and I know a
Speaker 2: lot of parents must be like, my child is such
Speaker 2: a performer. But Marley is such a performer.
Speaker 4: She shut on bearings do that.
Speaker 2: She's she's really really talented, and she asked us about that.
Speaker 2: She will also listen to a song once and she
Speaker 2: just learns the words so quickly. She just gets it.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that I can do without being like
Speaker 2: a stage mom slash day I can do to encourage
Speaker 2: that musical talent, which I know was there.
Speaker 3: I mean we were just surrounded by music. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I learned flute when I was a kid. I
Speaker 3: went to a performing arts high school. I just did
Speaker 3: like the amount of driving around my parents did to
Speaker 3: dancing and singing lessons and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Give it a crack.
Speaker 4: I think she'd love it.
Speaker 2: We'll be there.
Speaker 1: I wonder what he dances, funny, such.
Speaker 2: A supportive parent.
Speaker 1: He dances like my dad. It's god.
Speaker 2: Kop. One thing that we ask all, I guess to
Speaker 2: wrap up an interview is what would you like your
Speaker 2: your daughters Sienna and Monty to remember about the house
Speaker 2: that they grew up in?
Speaker 3: Hmmm? I would like them to remember it as a safe,
Speaker 3: but really fun place. Is that a boring?
Speaker 2: Not at all wholesome?
Speaker 4: I thought it would be like music fun, of course,
Speaker 4: like you wanted to remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just being able to dance silly, like we
Speaker 3: do have dance Like we throw on music and we've
Speaker 3: got a little light that flashes, and we often have
Speaker 3: dance parties where we just dance around living.
Speaker 2: Do the kids prefer your music or nix?
Speaker 3: Oh it's mixed, but I'm definitely making more music these days,
Speaker 3: so they probably hear mine more. But they're harsh. They're
Speaker 3: really harsh critics.
Speaker 4: They don't Yeah, they don't really understand sarcasm and that
Speaker 4: I don't understand what it's really like to be critically mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but they do. They like it. I mean,
Speaker 3: Sienna is really into dance music. She always requests scrill
Speaker 3: X rumble, you know, yeah, killers in the jungle, she
Speaker 3: requests that all.
Speaker 2: The time in the car as well.
Speaker 1: It's the best in the car.
Speaker 3: That's where she requests it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe again.
Speaker 3: My kids are all about yeah, Dave.
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 1: At the documentary, now it just sounds like a v G.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kop, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me spending.
Speaker 2: The morning with us today. And we will put show
Speaker 2: notes in this episode. So if you do want to
Speaker 2: come along and check out Diversity or KAlP gigs you
Speaker 2: can you can pick and choose. Yes, we'll put it
Speaker 2: in there. But thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're my favorite part ash of this record with Kop.
Speaker 2: A little video I made a mistake day. I asked
Speaker 2: Kope to do a video for Mali and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: make it for Mali, Lola. You forgot to put Lola
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: You're a terrible parent.
Speaker 2: Hey, if you want to check out Diversity tour dates
Speaker 2: and music in the show notes.
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Speaker 4: Please suggest any other parents, mom's, dad's grandparents, their father.
Speaker 2: Couple of grannies. What's that? What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 6: Just the way it came out of your mouth. It
Speaker 6: didn't come out weird, but we'd love to hear from
Speaker 6: them all. Let's get out of here by.
Speaker 1: Two.
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